1 Timothy 2 But I Suffer not a Woman to Teach
ONLY RARE, SELF- EXHIBITIONING WOMEN CAN BE SEDUCED BY MEN TO PRODUCE ORGIES.
VALIDATING PAUL'S WARNING AGAINST MEN WHO PERMIT ORGIES AND WOMEN WHO CLAIM THE ROLE OF JESUS.
ASK: WHY DO I WANT TO EXERCISE AUTHENTIA AUTHORITY PRODUCING ORGIES WHICH IS BOTH EROTIC AND MURDEROUS.
WHY DO I CLAIM THAT I AM SUPERIOR TO JESUS AND AS "MAD WOMEN" WANT TO MAKE MERCHANDISE.
WHY AS A FEMINIST DO I WANT TO PRODUCE THE CERTAINTY OF THE TRINITY WHEN PAUL'S WARNING IS AWAYS.
1Tim. 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, [KEPT SAFE]
and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. [Word, Logos, Regulative Principle preaching outlawed]
1Tim. 2:5 For there is ONE GOD
and one mediator between God and men,
the MAN Christ Jesus;
The Triple Goddess of Babylon unleashed in Revelation 17 using "lusted after fruits" as clergy: speakers, singers, instrument players, brides (Hieros Gamus or Sacred Prostitutes marked as SELLING any body part.
The Triple Deity is common throughout world mythology with many mythical associations. As the goddess associated with the number three she is regarded as the threefold, tripled, triplicate, tripartite, triune, triadic, or as a trinity. The Triple Goddess in mythological art and religious iconography is always represented as a group, as a triad, or perhaps a single deity with three aspects. It was pointed out that the ancient pagan world often believed in a triumverate of three divine women called sometimes the Fates, sometimes the Graces, with the original single earth goddess honoured in three roles of maiden, mother, and crone (Harrison, 1903)
That this history of the rib was well known to the Babylonians, is manifest from one of the names given to their primeval goddess, as found in Berosus (lib. i. p. 50).
Their attributes differ according to the divinities upon whom they attend; as the companions of Apollon they often carry musical instruments, and as the companions of Aphrodite they carry myrtles, roses, or dice, the favourite game of youth.
THE MOTHER OF APOSTATE UNIVERSITIES "TAKING AWAY THE KEY TO KNOWLEDGE" AND EXTORTION
John T. Willis and Jo Bass The Holy Spirit
Jo Bass Resource: G.E.Jones.Spiritual.Understanding.E.R.Harper.htmlSara.Barton.The.Song.of.Solomon -
Mike.Cope.2017.PBL.Hieros.Gamos
Jeanene.P.Reese.Theology.of.Women.Teachers
Rhonda Lowry David.Lipscomb.Summer.2008 -
Euripides.Iphigenia.htmlWineskins: Mike Cope Highland Church of Christ
Mike Cope - Jubilee 98 Hand Lifting
Neither do I SUFFER a man to teach OVER me: the pattern ordained from the wilderness onward was to PREACH the Word by READING the Word. Christ gave elders as Pastor-teachers the role of "teaching that which has been taught."
HOLY men will prevent WRATH or an ORGY: No godly, literate woman would object to that:
Livy 39 History of Rome
In fact, the idea of group sex as a feature of secret nocturnal meetings was so prominent in the psychological landscape of multiple Roman authors that it attached itself to many different cults over time.
In his Satires, the poet Juvenal mentions aristocratic matrons
competing with slave girls in sexual feats at the celebrations of the rites of the Bona Dea.
The novelist Apuleius describes catamite priests of a secret cult participating in a homosexual ORGY (Wrath] Early Christian groups were often accused of holding orgies.
In the late third century AD, for example, Minucius Felix
described a Christian feast in which lamps were overturned
and indiscriminate sexual escapades took place in the dark,
though the charge was admittedly categorically denied.
In fact, the Agape, or Christian love feast, was interpreted and described so often as a sex party that Justin Maryr, Athenagoras, Irenaeus, Theophilus, and Terturllian all took the time to write against the charge. Interestingly, however, Christian sects often accused each other of holding orgies. Writing in the early third century AD, Hippolytus Romanus said of the Simonists that they believed “all earth is earth, and there is no difference where anyone sows, provided he does sow.
And they congratulate themselves on their intercourse with strange women, asserting that this is the perfect Agape.” And in the late fourth century Epiphanius described orgiastic feasts among the Gnostic Phibionites in which semen and menstrual blood were used as ceremonial fluids.
Why Paul silenced self-pleasure such as tongue worship, singing, playing instruments or theatrics
http://www.piny.com/Romans.14.Doubtful.Disputations.Livy.html
The Obscene Women IN the Temple in Ezekiel 8 and the typical JEWISH SYNAGOGUE in Rome.
http://www.pineycom.com/MuTammuz.html
Methodists Clergy and Gnostic Replacement for the word
http://www.pineycom.com/RSReImaging.html
Clement Exhortation to the Heathen
THE MARK OF LUCIFER as LIGHT: HALAL or PRAISE
And what if I go over the mysteries? I will not divulge them in mockery, as they say Alcibiades did, but I will expose right well by the word of truth the sorcery hidden in them; and those so-called gods of yours, whose are the mystic rites,
- I shall display, as it were, on the stage of life, to the spectators of truth. The bacchanals hold their orgies in honour of the frenzied Dionysus, celebrating their sacred frenzy by the eating of raw flesh, and go through the distribution of the parts of butchered victims, you must eat my flesh crowned with snakes, shrieking out the name of that Eva by whom error came into the world. [Eve or Zoe]
The symbol of the Bacchic orgies. is a consecrated serpent. Moreover, according to the strict interpretation of the Hebrew term, the name Hevia (Eve), aspirated, signifies a female serpent.
- We have here a reference to the supposed fall of man from pristine "innocence," Eve and the serpent being very significantly introduced in close conjunction, and indeed becoming in some sense identified with each other.
- In fact the Arabic word for serpent, hayyal, may be said also to mean "life," and in this sense the legendary first human mother is called Eve or Chevvah, in Arabic Hawwa. In its relations, as an asserted fact, the question of the fall has an important bearing on the subject before us. Sacred Texts INFLUENCE OF THE PHALLIC IDEA BY C. STANILAND WAKE [1870]
Heylel (h1966) hay-lale'; from h1984 (in the sense of brightness); the morning-star: - lucifer.
H1984 halal haw-lal' A primitive root; to be clear (originally of sound, but usually of color); to shine; hence to make a show; to boast; and thus to be (clamorously) foolish; to rave; causatively to celebrate; also to stultify: (make) boast (self), celebrate, commend, (deal, make), fool (-ish, -ly), glory, give [light], be (make, feign self) mad (against), give in marriage, [sing, be worthy of] praise, rage, renowned, shine.
THE MARK OF ZOE who is LUCIFER as LIFE
Paul, but no theologian, understood that meaning of EVE and the Cain-Abel conflict as connected to the rise of the AGRICULTURISTS who need fertility rites versus the hunter-gatherers who did not. Moses refutes the FIRST EVE of the Sumerians and defines her as an ANCILLARY and not a goddess as all pagans believed.
Galatians 5
I.Wish.They.Would.Go.the.Whole.Way.and.Emasculate.Themselves
Lucretius (98 - c. 55 BC): The Worship of Cybele
- Wherefore great Mother of gods, and Mother of beasts,
- And parent of man hath she alone been named.
- Her hymned the old and learned bards of Greece....
- Do name Idaean , giving her
Escort of Phrygian bands, since first, they say,
- From out those regions 'twas that grain began
- Through all the world. To her do they assign
- The Galli, the EMASCULATE, since thus
- They wish to show that men who violate
- The majesty of the Mother and have proved
- Ingrate to parents are to be adjudged
- Unfit to give unto the shores of light
A living progeny. The Galli come:
And hollow cymbals, tight-skinned tambourines
Resound around to bangings of their hands;
The fierce horns threaten with a raucous bray;
The tubed pipe excites their maddened minds
- In Phrygian measures; they bear before them knives,
- Wild emblems of their frenzy, which have power
- The rabble's ingrate heads and impious hearts
- To panic with terror of the goddess' might.
CLEMENT OF ALEXANDRIA WHOM THE THEOLOGIANS LOVE TO LIE ABOUT.
http://www.pineycom.com/MuClement.htmlDemeter and Proserpine have become the heroines of a mystic drama; and their wanderings, and seizure, and grief, Eleusis celebrates by torchlight processions. I think that the derivation of orgies and mysteries ought to be traced, the former to the wrath (orge) of Demeter against Zeus, the latter to the nefarious wickedness (mu/soj) relating to Dionysus; but if from Myus of Attica, who Pollodorus says was killed in hunting-no matter, I don't grudge your mysteries the glory of funeral honours.
- You may understand mysteria in another way, as mytheria (hunting fables), the letters of the two words being interchanged; for certainly fables of this sort hunt after the most barbarous of the Thracians, the most senseless of the Phrygians, and the superstitious among the Greeks.
Perish, then, the man who was the author of this imposture among men, be he Dardanus, who taught the mysteries of the mother of the gods, or Eetion, who instituted the orgies and mysteries of the Samothracians, or that Phrygian Midas who, having learned the cunning imposture from Odrysus, communicated it to his subjects.
- For I will never be persuaded by that Cyprian Islander Cinyras, who dared to bring forth from night to the light of day the lewd orgies of Aphrodité in his eagerness to deify a strumpet of his own country.
Others say that Melampus the son of Amythaon imported the festivals of Ceres from Egypt into Greece, celebrating her grief in song.
These I would instance as the prime authors of evil, the parents of impious fables and of deadly superstition, who sowed in human life that seed of evil and ruin-the mysteries.
- And now, for it is time, I will prove their orgies to be full of imposture and quackery. And if you have been initiated, you will laugh all the more at these fables of yours which have been held in honour. I publish without reserve what has been involved in secrecy, not ashamed to tell what you are not ashamed to worship.
All honour to that king of the Scythians, whoever Anacharsis was,
who shot with an arrow one of his subjects who imitated among the Scythians
the mystery of the Mother of the gods, as practised by the inhabitants of Cyzicus,
beating a drum and sounding a cymbal
strung from his neck like a priest of Cybele,
- condemning him as having become effeminate among the Greeks,
- and a teacher of the disease of effeminacy to the rest of the Cythians.
Flute-PlayersPlato Cratylus
Such causes as these are like far-fetched explanations; I mean stating the middle term in too remote a form, e.g., the dictum of Anacharsis that there are no flute-players among the Scythians because there are no vines.146
1,13,n146. The full chain of implication is something like "flute-playing--thirstywork--heavy drinking--wine--grapes-- vines." Anacharsis was a Scythian ethnologist of the sixth century B.C. (Herodotus iv. 76).
Her. What is the meaning of Dionysus and Aphrodite?
Soc. Son of Hipponicus, you ask a solemn question; there is a serious and also a facetious explanation of both these names; the serious explanation is not to be had from me, but there is no objection to your hearing the facetious one; for the Gods too love a joke.
Dionusos is simply didous oinon (giver of wine), as he might be called in fun,-
and oinos is properly oionous, because wine makes those who drink, think (oiesthai) that they have a mind (nous) when they have none. The derivation of Aphrodite, born of the foam (aphoros), may be fairly accepted on the authority of Hesiod.Her. Still there remains Athene, whom you, Socrates, as an Athenian, will surely not forget; there are also Hephaestus and Ares.
"Now the lofty Ida resounds with tinklings, that the boy may cry in safety with infant mouth. Some strike their shields with stakes, some beat their empty helmets [Carnal weapons]. This is the employment of the Curetes, this of the Corybantes.
In the Orphic Hymn to Rhea: And Orphic.htmlThe matter was concealed, and imitations of the ancient deed remain; the attendant goddesses shake instruments of brass, and hoarse hides. Instead of helmets they strike cymbals, and drums instead of shields; the flute gives Phrygian strains, as it gave before." [lifeless Instruments]
Now Rhea, as Ceres, in Hymn XIV, is called 'brass-sounding' and
'drum-beating'. This has reference to the mystical results of certain sounds and rhythm, part and parcel of what the Hindus call Mantravidyâ.Music and Mantras, therefore, were used by the Orphics to attract, or call down, the influence of the Mother of the Gods, who at the same time was the 'Store-house of Life', of Divine Nature. Thus Proclus in his Commentary on Euclid (ii) tells us that 'the Pole of the World is called by the Pythagoreans the Seal of Rhea' (Myst. Hymns, p. 63). THAT IS THE MARK OF ZOE
THE MARK OF a CAPELLA the GOAT SINGERS [Statius TheBaid6]
225 each one throws a offering from his own equipment, whether reins or sword-belts or a javelin or the crest of a helmet, into the flames
[the neighboring fields resonate loudly with strident music, and ears are assaulted everywhere with the piercing sound of trumpets. The forest is alarmed by the noise: in just this way trumpets cause the military standards to be pulled out of the ground,235 they turn their attention to the flames and put the pyre to sleep with much rain water, until when the sun had set their labors were completed; their labor scarcely yielded to the late darkness. Already nine times Lucifer 61 had dismissed the dewy stars from the heaven and just as many times at night
61i.e., the morning star ('light-bearer). The following lines indicates in poetic language the passage of nine days and nights.
240 with changed horse 62 had anticipated the fires of the Moon (nor does he deceive the knowing stars and is understood to be one star rising alternately. 63) You can't imagine how fast that wonderful work was completed! The stony mass stands, a huge temple for the dead child, and a bas-relief narrates events 64 sequentially in stone:
62The sun, moon, dawn, morning and evening stars were all thought to ride in chariots pulled by horses. [Jerusalem had its own Sun Chariot because God had turned them over to worship the Starry Host: Acts 7 etc.]245 here Hypsipyle shows rivers to the tired Greeks, here the tearful infant crawls, here he lies, around the edge of the mound the scaly one makes his rough circle; the snake looks so real that you would expect bloody hissing from his mouth, so moves the snake with a sinuous motion around the marble spear. And now the crowd is eager to see the battles without weapons 65 [That is why Zoe/Eve/Mary worship wants Jesus to be an INFANT]
63Despite the different names (Lucifer and Vesper), it was known that the morning and evening star were really one and the same.
64that led up to the funeral.65i.e., athletic contests.
420 The deafening sound of feet and the thin sound of wheels can be heard. There is no rest for the hand, the air hisses with repeated blows of the whip; hail does not issue forth more densely from the cold North, nor does rain fall more densely from so many Olenian vessels. 114 Perceptive Arion, after he felt the whip, had realized that there was a different
114This is a reference to the star Capella, identified by Roman poets with Aege, the daughter of Olenos.
Hislop in Deification of the Child:
Zoe or Eve or Capella gets the GLORY over Olenos (Adam) or Saturn, "the father of gods and men,"but, in the progress of idolatry and apostacy, Rhea (Zoe), or Eve, came to get glory at Saturn's expense.
Saturn, or Adam, was represented as a morose divinity;
Rhea , or Eve, exceedingly benignant; and, in her benignity, she presented to her husband a stone bound in swaddling bands, which he greedily devoured, and henceforth the children of the cannibal father were safe.425 charioteer in the chariot. Guiltless, 115 he dreaded the harsh son of Oedipus; right from the starting line he is reluctant and more ferocious than usual, he resents his burden The Argives believe that he is motivated by desire for glory; but he is really trying to escape from the charioteer, in a frenzy he wildly threatens the charioteer,
Herodotus 4:CLXXXIX. It would seem that the robe and aegis of the images of Athena were copied by the Greeks from the Libyan women; for except that Libyan women dress in leather, and that the tassels of their goatskin cloaks are not snakes but thongs of hide,115The innocent horse was frightened by the guilt of Polynices (the son of Oedipus), who was going to attack his own city in order to wrest the kingship from his brother.
[3] Furthermore, in my opinion the ceremonial chant2 first originated in Libya: for the women of that country chant very tunefully. And it is from the Libyans that the Greeks have learned to drive four-horse chariots2 The ololugê (says Dr. Macan) was proper to the worship of Athena; a cry of triumph or exultation, perhaps of Eastern origin and connected with the Semitic Hallelu (which survives in Hallelu-jah). In honor of Kubeles also by emasculated priest-singers.
1 Timothy 2 outlaws females performing in the assembly: it also outlaws males from the practices for which most church staff are unlawfully hired. [additions soon: not spell checked. Mod 11.04.06]. Click to see some notes specificially on the LIFTING OF UNHOLY hands.
He also outlaws effeminate males who induce the same sexual or homosexual activity involved in the pagan religions these people had just left.
IT IS ABOUT 100% CERTAIN THAT ALL "WORSHIP DIRECTED" RITUALS THIS DAY DELIBERATELY VIOLATED ALL OF PAUL'S INSTRUCTIONS WHICH EXCLUDED FEMALES AND LOOK-ALIKE MALES: Jesus lumped ALL religious PERFORMERS as Hypocrites and pointed to Isaiah and Ezekiel to specificially point to people who assembled to hear PERFORMANCE speaking, singing or playing instruments.
THE PAGAN WORSHIP THESIS
THE PROPHETIC ANTITHESIS BY THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST.SOPHIA-EVE-MARY MOTHER AND TEACHER OF GOD: From Sophia from The Book of Wonders by David Jors, 16th century. Goddesses and Today's Culture. Note pomegranite.
"To revive gods and goddesses is no small task. Above all, it is not a task that reason or personal motives can accomplish or even assist in. One cannot construct archetypes on the basis of recognitions reached by the personal complex of mind and emotions. David L. Miller rightly observes:
"The Gods and Goddesses are not cute allegories and analogies, figures of speech for evangelizing and moralistic orators, just as they are neither psychological nor social roles. Rather, they are worlds of our existence; the deepest structures of reality. If we conjure up the presence of such structures of reality primarily or even partly because we would like to advance our own purposes, we commit sacrilege and invite the cruel retribution of the Olympians. Our watchword in these matters must never be "I want," but rather "do as Thou wilt." Ideologies, politics, "isms" of all kinds, as well as personal hurt and anger, must be left behind in the outer court. They must not be smuggled into the sanctuary where the deities reside. Of course, much of the contemporary "paganizing" and "Goddess talk" will not pass muster by these stringent yet essential standards.
"The discovery and assimilation of early heterodox Christian scriptures (such as the Nag Hammadi library) will also facilitate the revival of goddess figures within a new Gnostic Christian mythos. Goddesses such as Barbelo and Sophia, demigoddesses like Eve-Zoe and Norea, and heroines such as Mary Magdalene are emerging from exile and are awaiting reincorporation into Christian scriptures and liturgy. Things have never looked so good for a recovery of our polytheistic heritage and of our beautiful and mighty goddesses of old. One even feels that Christ, the incarnate paradigm of the Fullness, who assured us that in his Father's house there are many divinities [John 10:43.] would be pleased by the coming of a new polytheism.
1 Thess 4:11 And that ye study [opera: your religious service] to be QUIET, [ hēsukhazein]
Habakkuk 2:19 Woe unto him that saith to the wood [David's Lyre Awakening God], Awake; to the dumb stone, Arise, it shall teach! Behold, it is laid over with gold and silver, and there is no breath [Spirit] at all in the midst of it.
Habakkuk 2:20 But the LORD is in his holy temple: let all the earth keep silence before him.
You should rember that when God abandoned Israel because of musical idolatry the "god" included Apollo, Abaddon or Apollyon. They worshipped the Starry host at the quarantined temple with singing and playing instruments which was called exorcism or sorcery and not the worship of Jehovah. Because the Spirit OF Christ had outlawed all of the performing arts when He came to give us Rest, He assuredly understood that the "gods" defined by Amos and Stephen were NOT Jehovah.
Sĭlĕo , to be noiseless, still, or silent, to keep silence; act., not to speak of, to keep silent respecting a thing
II. Transf., to be still or quiet (Opposite. to being in action), to remain inactive, to rest, cease
“quiesco): et cycnea mele Phoebeaque Carmina consimili ratione oppressa silerent,” Lucr. 2, 506: “silent diutius Musae Varronis quam solebant,
Lucr. 2.506cȳcnēus (cȳgn- ), a, um, adj., = kukneios.
The peacock's golden generations, stained
With spotted gaieties, would lie o'erthrown
By some new colour of new things more bright;
The odour of myrrh and savours of honey despised;
The swan's old lyric, and Apollo's hymns,
Once modulated on the many chords,
Would likewise sink o'ermastered and be mute:
I. Of or belonging to a swan, swan's-: “tamquam cycnea vox et oratio,” i. e. the last speech, Cic. de Or. 3, 2, 6: “plumae,” Ov. Tr. 4, 8, 1.—
mĕlos , i, n. (Greek plur. mele, Lucr. 2, 412.——In I.masc.: quosdam melos, Cato ap. Non. 213, 17; so Pac. and Varr. ib.), = melos, a tune, air, strain, song, lCic. N. D. 2, 35, 89: “longum,” Hor. C. 3, 4, 2: Pegaseium, Pers. prol. —Greek plur.: “cui brevia mela modifica recino,”
Psallo never in recorded history ever meant nor could mean MUSICAL melody: it may be blasphemy to say that the Spirit did not know how to define music. And to trap the Musical Worship Masters agents of Apollyon, Paul commanded us to SPEAK the Biblical material.
Phoebēum , i, n., = Phoibeion,I.a temple of Phœbus [Apollo, Abaddon, Apollyon] , from which a place near Sparta received its name, Liv. 34, 38.
SUN God worshipped musically at Mount Sinai and in Jerusalem
Ăpollo , ĭnis (earlier Ăpello , like hemo for homo, Paul. ex Fest. p. 22 Müll.; Apollōn, Apollo, son of Jupiter and Latona, twinbrother of Diana, and god of the sun. On account of his omniscience, god of divination; on account of his lightnings (belē), god of archery (hence represented with quiver and dart), and of the pestilence caused by heat; but, since his priests were the first physicians, also god of the healing art; and since he communicated oracles in verse, god of poetry and music, presiding over the Muses, etc.; In the class. period of the arts, represented with weapons, the cithara, a crown of laurel, etc., with hair commonly flowing down upon his neck, but sometimes collected together and fastened up
The Muses (Revelation 18) were Apollyon's Musical Worship Team: John called them SORCERERS and they were known as dirty adulteresses. That would include CORRUPTING the Word and then selling it which word MEANS adultery.
Carmen
I.a tune, song; poem, verse; an oracular response, a prophecy; a form of incantation (cf.: cano, cantus, and canto).I. In gen., a tune, song, air, lay, strain, note, sound, both vocal and instrumental
“carmine vocali clarus citharāque Philammon
“per me (sc. Apollinem) concordant carmina nervis,” id. ib. 1, 518; c
consimili Similar to meaning a PRETEND and therefore HYPOCRITIC mark of "worship."
Ratio d. A theory, doctrine, or system based upon reason; science, and (less freq.), subject., knowledge: e. A view or opinion resting upon reasonable grounds. However, CHRIST as the LOGOS Word is Opposite to poetry or music or ANY personal experiences or opinions or preferences.
The TASK of the ANTI-Christ Abaddon or Apollon who UNLEASHED the Locusts from the PIT: this is the word Paul and the Greek texts used for the musical performers oppressing or afflicting people with the Laded Burden and pretending that the spiritual anxiety is the Holy Spirit making their body sweat and tremble and even orgaze!
Opprĭmo (obp- ), essi, essum, 3, v. a. ob-premo, I.to press against, press together; to press down
D. To overthrow, overwhelm, crush, overpower, prostrate, subdue: “reliquias hujus belli,
F. To fall upon, surprise, take by surprise, come upon unexpectedly, seize, catch (syn.: “adorior, invado): occasionem opprimere,” to seize, embrace, Plaut. As. 2, 2, 15: “imprudentem, to make one's self master of, occupy, Cic. Clu. 40, 110.—
This is the meaning of a HERETIC or SECTARIAN silenced in Romans 15 because they use the performing arts to TAKE your property for their own uses.
Don't CORRUPT the people: Don't FLEECE the people: there is NO role in the Christian System which calls for a SENIOR preacher and a mass of STAFF to STIFF the lambs.
and to do your own business,HONESTY is the way to MARK and AVOID those who cannot spell honesty:
and to work with your own hands, as we commanded you;
1 Thess 4:12 That ye may walk honestly toward them that are without,
and that ye may have lack of nothing.
Semno-tēs , ētos, hē,A. solemnity, dignity, “semnotēt' ekhei skotos” E.Ba.486, cf. X.Cyr.8.3.1, Isoc.12.242, Pl.Mx.235b; “hē s. tou rhēmatos” D.Prooem.45; [tēs lexeōs] Arist.Rh.1408b35; hē tou topou s. Milet.1(9).368; also of persons, seriousness, dignity, “epi tēs s. authadeis hupolambanesthai” D.61.14, cf. Arist.Rh.1391a28, Ep.Tit.2.7, 1 Ep.Ti.2.2: in pl., “s. ouk alēthinai alla peplasmenai” Isoc.6.98.II. of a girl, reserve or shyness, E.IA 1344.
I am going to begin with the FIRST verse of 1 Timothy 2 which is too late if you want to understand what Paul was teaching.
It is not remotely possible to understand LIFTING HANDS without grasping that Paul did not write one verse for sermon fodder of "Battle of the Sexes." Paul will be using PREGNANT words such as Will, Wrath, Doubting or disputing. These POINT directly to the FACTS of the synagogue as school of the Bible which CANNOT be restored as long as MALES violate Paul's DIRECT COMMANDMENTS which outlaws modern "churching." Nor, can it be restored when males as FEMALE IMPERSONATORS (as in all Greek Theater) PERFORM the roles Paul silenced. Don't ever forget that Jesus CAST OUT the musical minstrels LIKE DUNG because they were performing "religious" mediating roles NOW so common in neo-paganism.
FIRST, Paul addresses FORMS of worship which can be performed by everyone as long as everyone is silent and reverent. People prayed their OWN prayers in the synagogue and women could pray anywhere as long as she is not dressed like nor deports herself like a common pagan. Paul defined how this can be done as long as we use ONE MIND and ONE MOUTH where prayers were often hymns.
Paul connects all of the "mistranslated as making music passages" to GIVIING THANKS. You cannot PRAISE Jesus Christ without "telling the story" of Jesus and Fanny Crosby or Twila Paris or Keith something does NOT speak "that which has been taught" where Jesus said MY WORDS are SPIRIT and LIFE.
Paul did not RESTRICT us from asking God's blessing on WOMEN because he used the word MEN. Paul's restriction of women is based on the very NATURE of women where the males don't sing, clap or wave their hands around in the air. NO form of "religionism" has ever been fabricated by REAL MALES: history notes that this is prefabricated and prevaricated by disenfranchised preachers and women as their supporters who fall into something like witchcraft: One WARLOCK for every 10,000 WITCHES [Donnie: do a HAND WAVING COUNT]. The Awakenings based on witchcraft and Voodoo forms of singing DID NOT afflict the people who went on to become Churches of Christ.
Now look at the TYPES and understand that Paul was not commanding FOUR DIFFERENT types of prayer. Nor, did James command a MOURNING ritual.
A GENERIC COMMAND TO SPEAK TO GOD TO GRANT THE REST OR PEACE FOR WHICH JESUS DIED AND WITHOUT WHICH THE ASSEMBLY CANNOT FUNCTION WITHOUT FALLING INTO THE PAGAN PROSTITUTE WORSHIP RUN BY WOMEN AND USING ALL FORMS OF MUSIC.
1Ti 2:1 I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men;
These all have a large body of literature to further define them. However, in the synagogue the public activity was performed by an elected leader where the PRAYER was PRIMARILY for instruction because it began with the SHEMA (which refutes Tritheism or polytheism when we WORSHIP the names of the THREE.)
G1162 deïsis deh'-ay-sis From G1189 ; a petition:prayer, request, supplication.
G4335 proseucho pros-yoo-khay' From G4336 ; prayer (worship); by implication an oratory (chapel):X pray earnestly, prayer.
G1783 enteuxis ent'-yook-sis From G1793 ; an interview, that is, (specifically) supplication:intercession, prayer.
G2169 eucharistia yoo-khar-is-tee'-ah
From G2170 ; gratitude; actually grateful language (to God, as an act of worship): thankfulness, (giving of) thanks (-giving).
You CANNOT, but most people DO, miss the PURPOSE which is ALWAYS defeated by TEKNOKRATS immediately BEFORE and AFTER the specified prayer for the REST Jesus gives from LADED BURDENS being "spiritual anxiety created by religious rituals. In Hebrew a BURDEN is a song. The clergy used the people like PACK ANIMALS and fleeced them primarily through RELIGIOUS RITUALS where they made long PRAYERS (hymns probably) in order to steal the house or CHURCH HOUSE of widows.
Phortizo (g5412) for-tid'-zo; from 5414; to load up (prop. as aa vessel or animal), i.e. (fig.) to overburden with ceremony (or spiritual anxiety):- lade, be heavy laden.
That includes AN EXTRA TAX NOT DURING WARFARE.
1Ti 2:2 For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a QUIET and PEACABLE life in all GODLINESS and HONESTY [gravity].
That means that ALL keep quite: the direct command and approved example from the wilderness onward that the Word of God (only) is to be PREACHED by being READ each rest day. Disciples listen and learn with their mouth shut.
Paul almost always POINTS to something outside of the Way of Christ which those very literate people would understand: we may not understand because so many people wrest ot twist the word tight, wrench or dislocate with a vieiw to resetting: that is they FABRICATE words and phrases into their own songs and sermons. They:
Wrest is:
trebl-oō , fut. screw up the strings of an instrument, “tas khordas epi tōn kollopōn strebloun” Pl.R.531b.
3 The language of the imagery confounds the torture of slaves giving evidence on the rack with the strings and pegs of a musical instrument. For the latter cf. Horace, A.P. 348, “nam neque chorda sonum reddit quem vult manus et mens Poscentique gravem persaepe remittit acutum.” Stallbaum says that Plato here was imitated by Aristaenetus, Epist. xiv. libr. 1ti pragmata parekhete khordais;
4 This also may suggest a reluctant and a too willing witness.
Ephesians 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Eph 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
We do NOT wrestle against flesh and blood:
[12] diabolou: hoti ouk estin hêmin hê palê pros haima kai sarka, alla pros tas archas, pros tas exousias, pros tous kosmokratoras touskotous toutou, pros ta pneumatika tês ponêrias en tois epouraniois
Pale (g3823) pal'-ay; from pallo, (to vibrate; another form for 906); wrestling: - / wrestle Pallô, poise, sway a missile before it is thrown, sway, brandish, she drove it furiously, tripped on the shield-rim, quiver, leap, esp. in fear, II. Pass., swing, dash oneself, Pi.N.5.21; vibrate, of strings, Pl.Phd.94c (psalloito ap. Stob.); skirtêtikon kai pallomenon to neon (etym. of Pallas) Corn.ND20, cf. Pl.Cra. 407a. III. intr., leap, bound, E.El.435, Ar.Lys.1304 (lyr.); [p. 1294] quiver, quake, phrena deimati pallôn S.OT153 (lyr.); dash along, of horses, E.El.477 (lyr.).G906 ballō bal'-lo A primary verb; to throw (in various applications, more or less violent or intense):arise, cast (out), X dung, lay, lie, pour, put (up), send, strike, throw (down), thrust. Compare G4496 .
Jesus cast out the musical minstrels like dung.
Pi.N.5.21 Pindar, Nemean 5.Godliness means: G2150 eusebeia yoo-seb'-i-ah From G2152 ; piety; specifically the GOSPEL scheme:...godliness, holiness.
hēsukh-ios , Dor. has- (v.l. hēs- ), on,= hēsukhos,A. [select] still, quiet, at rest, “hēsukhion d' ara min polemou ekpempe” Il.21.598; “eirēna” Pi.P.9.22; also in Prose, tropon hē. of a quiet disposition, Hdt.1.107; “oud' hē. ho sōphrōn bios” Pl.Chrm.160b; hai hē. praxeis ib. c; “to hē. ēthos” Id.R.604e; hoi hē. Antipho 3.2.1; to hē. tēs eirēnēs (v.l. hēsukhon) Th.1.120: Comp. -ōteros more reposeful, Phld.Rh. 2.60S. Adv. “-iōs” h.Merc.438, Pl.Tht.179e.
Semno-tēs , ētos, hē,A. solemnity, dignity, “semnotēt' ekhei skotos” E.Ba.486, cf. X.Cyr.8.3.1, Isoc.12.242, Pl.Mx.235b; “hē s. tou rhēmatos” D.Prooem.45; [tēs lexeōs] Arist.Rh.1408b35; hē tou topou s. Milet.1(9).368; also of persons, seriousness, dignity, “epi tēs s. authadeis hupolambanesthai” D.61.14, cf. Arist.Rh.1391a28, Ep.Tit.2.7, 1 Ep.Ti.2.2: in pl., “s. ouk alēthinai alla peplasmenai” Isoc.6.98.II. of a girl, reserve or shyness, E.IA 1344.
Sorry about that but most women do not SEEK performing roles any more than most men.
Hebrews 12:23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn,
which are written in heaven,
and to God the Judge of all,
and to the spirits of just men made perfect,
Hebrews 12:24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant,
and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.
Hebrews 12:25 See that ye refuse not him that speaketh.
For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth,
much more shall not we escape, if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven:
Hebrews 12:26 Whose voice then shook the earth: but now he hath promised, saying,
Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven.
Hebrews 12:27 And this word, Yet once more, signifieth the removing of those things that are shaken,
as of things that are made, that those things which cannot be shaken may remain.
Hebrews 12:28 Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved,
let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear:
Hebrews 12:29 For our God is a consuming fire.
asaleutos [sa^, on,*A. unmoved, unshaken, “a. hē gē” Arist.Mu.392b34; of Delos, AP9.100 (Alph.); “estai asaleuton pro ophthalmōn” LXXEx. 13.16, al.; “prōra” Act.Ap.27.41; of the sea, prob. in Plu.2.982f: metaph. of the mind, E.Ba.391 (lyr.); “a. hēsukhia” Pl.Ax.370d; pistis Polystr.p.10 W.; “basileia” Ep.Hebr.12.28; “stala a.” Hymn.Is.4; “nikē” IG9(1).270 (Atalante); a. menein, of ordinances, PLips.34.35 (iv A.D.), cf. Sammelb.4324.12. Adv. “-tōs” Plb.9.9.8: neut. pl. as Adv., “kheilesi asaleuta memukosi”
eulab-eia 2. c. gen., caution or discretion in a thing, “pollē eu. toutōn poiētea” Antipho 3.3.11;
Caution to prevent, avoid, hēulabeia tōn poioumenōn” S.OC116
learning is the safe course of our course
poieō , A. make, produce, first of something material, as manufactures, works of art, etc. (opp. prattein, Pl.Chrm.163b), in shoe-making or pickle-selling or serving the stews?
freq. in Inscrr. on works of art, Polumēdēs epoiwēh' (= epoiēse )
2. create, bring into existence, “genos anthrōpōn khruseon” Hes.Op.110, cf. Th.161, 579, etc.; “ho poiōn” the creator, Pl.Ti. 76c; “heteron Philippon poiēsete” D.4.11:—Med., beget, “huion” And.1.124; “ek tinos” Id.4.22; paidas poieisthai, = paidopoieisthai, X.Cyr.5.3.19, D.57.43; conceive, “paidion p. ek tinos” Pl.Smp.203b:—Act. in this sense only in later Gr., Plu.2.312a; of the woman, paidion poiēsai ib.145d. let it be contrived
d. p. to problēma effect a solution of the problem,
4. after Hom., of Poets, compose, write, p. dithurambon, epea, Hdt.1.23, 4.14; “p. theogoniēn Hellēsi” Id.2.53; p. Phaidran, Saturous, Ar.Th.153, 157; p. kōmōdian, tragōdian, etc., Pl.Smp.223d; “palinōdian” Isoc.10.64, Pl.Phdr.243b, etc.; “poiēmata” Id.Phd.60d: abs., write poetry, write as a poet, “orthōs p.” Hdt.3.38;
b. represent in poetry, “Homēron Akhillea pepoiēkenai ameinō
c. describe in verse, “theon en epesin” Pl.R.379a; epoiēsa muthous tous Aisōpou put them into verse, Id.Phd. 61b; “muthon” Lycurg.100.
Socrates Plat. Euthyph. 3b So he has brought the indictment against you for making innovations in religion, and he is going into court to slander you, knowing that slander
3. of sacrifices, festivals, etc., celebrate,
Soph. OC 75
Stranger
[75] Take care now, stranger, that you come to no harm; for you are noble, if I may judge by your looks, leaving your ill-fortune aside. Stay here, where I found you, until I go and tell these things to the people of this district—not in the city. [80] They will decide for you whether you should stay or go back.Stranger exits.
Oedipus
My child, has the stranger left us?
Antigone
He is gone, and so you can speak what you wish, father, fully at ease, knowing that I alone am near.
Oedipus
Ladies of dread aspect, since your seat is [85] the first in this land at which I have bent my knee, show yourselves not ungracious to Phoebus or to myself; who, when he proclaimed that doom of many woes, spoke to me of this rest after long years: on reaching my goal in a land where I should find a seat of the Awful Goddesses [90] and a shelter for foreigners, there I should close my weary life, with profit, through my having fixed my abode there, for those who received me, but ruin for those who sent me forth, who drove me away. And he went on to warn me that signs of these things would come, [95] in earthquake, or in thunder, or in the lightning of Zeus. Now I perceive that in this journey some trusty omen from you has surely led me home to this grove; never otherwise could I have met with you, first of all, in my wanderings—I, in my sobriety, with you who touch no wine, [100] —or taken this august seat not shaped by men. Then, goddesses, according to the word of Apollo, give me at last some way to accomplish and close my course—unless, perhaps, I seem too lowly, [105] enslaved as I am evermore to woes the sorest on the earth. Hear, sweet daughters of primeval Darkness! Hear, you that are called the city of great Pallas, Athens, given most honor of all cities! Pity this poor ghost of the man Oedipus! [110] For in truth it is the former living body no more.
Antigone
Hush! Here come some aged men to spy out your resting-place.
Oedipus
I will be mute. But hide me in the grove, apart from the road, till I learn [115] how these men will speak. For in learning is the safeguard of our course.They exit.Paul will say that people who see GODLINESS as OCCUPATION are not HONET nor godly.
THE QUIET AND PEACE IS TO CONDUCT SCHOOL OR EKKLESIA:
Paul outlawed PERSONAL PLEASURING or "creation of mental excitement" and this parses into texts having to do with SINGING all of which words speak of CHARMING (as a serpent) or ENCHANTMENT. In Revelation 18 Paul identified the singers, musicians and teknokrats as performing SORCERY to deceive the World. Here is what we are all to PRAY for before any male female battle takes place.
G2263 eremos ay'-rem-os Perhaps by transposition from G2048 (through the idea of stillness); tranquil quiet.
G2048 ermos er'-ay-mos Of uncertain affinity; lonesome, that is, (by implication) waste (usually as a noun, G5561 being implied):desert, desolate, solitary, wilderness.
G5561 chora kho'-rah Feminine of a derivative of the base of G5490 through the idea of empty expanse; room, that is, a space of territory (more or less extensive; often including its inhabitants):coast, county, fields, grounds, land, region. Compare G5117 .
Why would you be LEGALISTIC and have Billy Bob Six Pack with the Lucky Strike form shining through his shirt pocked to do a "if we have sinned" prayer? And then turn IMMEDIATELY into deliberately destroying the peace and QUIET and REST by Johnny Jump Up swanging his hands, snapping his fingers, bumping and grinding his body and SHOUTING to induce PANice or fright into people? Paul said that "fools love to be fooled." And God seems to have no pity on the BLIND.
The prophecy was that JESUS would not CRY OUT: that means to call a mass assembly of the rabble or "beast" people. He promised to be where TWO OR THREE are gathered in HIS NAME and one can doubt that He will attend where two or three thousands assemble after having removed HIS NAME to deliberately DESTROY the peace and stillnes required for "feeding lambs" but loved by "jumping goats." The REST Jesus died for is:
Ana pauo (g373) an-up-ow'-o; from 303 and 3973; (reflex.) to repose (lit. or fig. [be exempt], remain); by impl. to refresh:- take ease, refresh, (give, take) rest.
Ana means "every one of you."
Pauo means restrain, quit, desist, come to an end, cease, leave, refrain.
Pauô, includes to: bring to an end, stop or silence by death, take one's rest, cease, have done, of one singing or speaking.
Pauo means stop the polemos or battle, fight, war: stop levying war against another, anaireisthai or airô egeirein, kathistanai, epagein to begin a warThe WRATH which Paul outlawed for the male leadership is connected to the SELF PLEASING Paul outlawed in Romans 15 for the church or school of the Bible.
Pauo means: STOP the: melôid-ia , hê, singing, chanting,
II. chant, choral song, melôidias poiêtês, lullaby, generally, musisPauo means: Stop the pain of: aoidê [aeidô]
1. song, a singing, whether the art of song, Hom.; or the act of singing, song, Il.
2. the thing sung, a song, Hom., etc.
3. the subject of song, Od.Pauo means: Stop the Thamyris, a Thracian aoidê [aeidô]. Orpheus the Thracian is said to have invented the worship called THRESKIA
Pauo means: Stop worshipping the MUSES
Pauo means: Stop the charismatic music which is with clanging cymbals:kata-pauô put an end to, stop
3. depose from power, k. tina tês archês, tês basilêïês, Hdt.4.1, 6.64; tous turannous Id.5.38 , cf. 2.144, 7.105; Mousas depose them from their honours, cease to worship them, E. HF685 (lyr.):--Pass., tês basilêïês katepausthê Hdt. 1.130 , cf. 6.71.
Klangê [klazô] any sharp sound, such as the twang of a bow, the grunting of swine, the hissing of serpents, the barking of dogs, of song, Cassandra-propheciesPauo means: Stop the: Panos orgai panic fears (i. e. terrors sent by Pan), Eur.:--but, orgê tinos anger against a person or at a thing, hierôn orgas wrath at or because of the rites.
Pauo means: Stop the Dancing they tried to force on Jesus
Orcheomai
- represent by dancing or pantomime
- metaph., leap, bound, shook, trembled,
- orcheô , make to dance
- made my heart leap
- Incarno: make flesh, incarnate god
Pauo means: Stop the Sorcery. The sOPHISts are the OPHIS serpents which, as in Genesis is a Musical Enchanter.
This word is HIGHLY directed to mean "stop the speaking, stop the singing, stop the music." I have collected THE WAYS most of which you VIOLATED today.
The Pauo Jesus died to give us means: To Take Thy Rest:
Klisia a place for lying down, henceI. a hut, cot, cabin, such as besiegers lived in during long sieges, Il.:--that they were not tents, but wooden huts, appears from Il. 24.448 sq.; and when an army broke up, it burnt them on the spot, Od. 8.501
- Ii. a couch or easy chair, Od., Pind.
- 2. a bed, nuptial bed, Eur.
- Iii. a company of people sitting at meals, NTest.
- Iv. a reclining or lying, Plut.
- Pause stop! have done! be quiet!
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Paul Connects the personal pleasuring to Heresy = Aeirô = aeidô = Locust = Abaddon or Apollyon = Kleptomaniacs
The ONE ANOTHER is AUTOMATICALLY excluded from the MASSES or the POLUS
Heb 13:12 Wherefore Jesus also, that he might sanctify the people with his own blood, SUFFERED without the gate.
Heb 13:13 Let us go forth therefore unto him without the camp, bearing his reproach.
Heb 13:14 For here have we no continuing city, but we seek one to come.Heb 13:15 By him therefore let us offer the sacrifice of praise to God continually, that is, the FRUIT of our LIPS giving thanks to his name.Both the HARPS and INCENSE in Revelation are from the Lips only.
Paul said that is where we speak the SAME (homo) Word (logos) with one mouth using the WORDS God has given us as the only vehicles of PRAISE meaning to tell HIS story in HIS WORDS.
G3670 homologeo hom-ol-og-eh'-o From a compound of the base of G3674 and G3056 ; to assent, that is, covenant, acknowledge:con- (pro-) fess, confession is made, give thanks, promise.
The OBJECT of the PRAISE outside the camp is NOT to perform a pagan worship ritual but to teach as you GO or when you assemble YOURSELVES (if you please) and DISassemble yourselves (if you please) because Paul said "you are COMPETENT to teach ONE ANOTHER" (if you please.)
1Ti 2:3 For this is GOOD and ACCEPTABLE in the sight of God our Saviour;
1Ti 2:4 Who will have all men to be SAVED, and to come unto the KNOWLEDGE of the TRUTHS.God gives us the gift of "A" holy spirit when we are baptized into him: we are washed with water INTO the Word or the school of Christ.
The EKKLESIA is the SYNAGOGUE which was "A School of the Bible." To the Synagogue Jesus INSTITUTED the Lord's Supper as a time to mourn and PREACH the Death of Christ--no mocking, singing, humming, whistling, clapping or AYTHING permitted without it being--like ALL musical words--the MARK of lost beyond redemption. To that, Paul COMMANDED and the historical church practiced JUST THAT ONE CHANGE.
SINGING as an ACT of worship did not happen for almost 4 centuries. Neither did PREACHING other than to obey ALL of the patternisms of RESTRING,READING and MUSING the only TRUTH which is the Words of Christ. Those who get VISIONS to add instruments and take CHRIST off the sign NEED NOT APPLY. There is NO Law of Tithing or Law of Giving. That means that you DELIBERATELY violated all aspects of that for which Jesus died to SAVE you from the GENERATION or race of people soevil that Jesus REFUSED to speak to them anymore. Look around: the seven SPIRITS which would rest on the BRANCH all relate to DIVINE KNOWLEDGE. The result of the singers, musicians and teknokrats in Revelation 18:22 performing SORCERY proves that the LAMPS or CANDLES of the Living and Written Word have been BLOWN OUT. Too bad.
WARNING AGAINST PAGAN MEDIATORS PRIMARILY WOMEN.
All theatrical and musical performers PROPHESIED in the "lord lord saying sense." They drove themselves into madness and CLAIMED to the MEDIATORS with the Gods. In the same way Musical Worship Teams were PROCURED with the claim that they could STAND in the Holy Places (type of church of Christ) and LEAD you into the presence of God.
Paul warns of the ASCENDING and DESCENDING rituals attempting to bring the gods down into their presence. In Romans 10 and 1 Cor 10 he identifies this as PLAY which was the Musical Idolatry of the Trinity. For that offense God turned them over to worship the starry hosts.
The WOMEN were the dominant MEDIATORS in the Oracles such as that of Apollo who is our Abaddon or Apollyon who unleashed the LOCUSTS as Musical Performers (Rev 18:22) performing SORCERY or MEDIATING ROLES.
Clement Exhortation to the Heathen
THE MARK OF LUCIFER as LIGHT: HALAL or PRAISE
And what if I go over the mysteries? I will not divulge them in mockery, as they say Alcibiades did, but I will expose right well by the word of truth the sorcery hidden in them; and those so-called gods of yours, whose are the mystic rites,
- I shall display, as it were, on the stage of life, to the spectators of truth. The bacchanals hold their orgies in honour of the frenzied Dionysus, celebrating their sacred frenzy by the eating of raw flesh, and go through the distribution of the parts of butchered victims, you must eat my flesh crowned with snakes, shrieking out the name of that Eva by whom error came into the world. [Eve or Zoe]
The symbol of the Bacchic orgies. is a consecrated serpent. Moreover, according to the strict interpretation of the Hebrew term, the name Hevia (Eve), aspirated, signifies a female serpent.
- We have here a reference to the supposed fall of man from pristine "innocence," Eve and the serpent being very significantly introduced in close conjunction, and indeed becoming in some sense identified with each other.
- In fact the Arabic word for serpent, hayyal, may be said also to mean "life," and in this sense the legendary first human mother is called Eve or Chevvah, in Arabic Hawwa. In its relations, as an asserted fact, the question of the fall has an important bearing on the subject before us. Sacred Texts INFLUENCE OF THE PHALLIC IDEA BY C. STANILAND WAKE [1870]
Heylel (h1966) hay-lale'; from h1984 (in the sense of brightness); the morning-star: - lucifer.
H1984 halal haw-lal' A primitive root; to be clear (originally of sound, but usually of color); to shine; hence to make a show; to boast; and thus to be (clamorously) foolish; to rave; causatively to celebrate; also to stultify: (make) boast (self), celebrate, commend, (deal, make), fool (-ish, -ly), glory, give [light], be (make, feign self) mad (against), give in marriage, [sing, be worthy of] praise, rage, renowned, shine.
THE MARK OF ZOE who is LUCIFER as LIFE
Paul, but no theologian, understood that meaning of EVE and the Cain-Abel conflict as connected to the rise of the AGRICULTURISTS who need fertility rites versus the hunter-gatherers who did not.
Lucretius (98 - c. 55 BC): The Worship of Cybele
- Wherefore great Mother of gods, and Mother of beasts,
- And parent of man hath she alone been named.
- Her hymned the old and learned bards of Greece....
- Do name Idaean , giving her
Escort of Phrygian bands, since first, they say,
- From out those regions 'twas that grain began
- Through all the world. To her do they assign
- The Galli, the emasculate, since thus
- They wish to show that men who violate
- The majesty of the Mother and have proved
- Ingrate to parents are to be adjudged
- Unfit to give unto the shores of light
A living progeny. The Galli come:
And hollow cymbals, tight-skinned tambourines
Resound around to bangings of their hands;
The fierce horns threaten with a raucous bray;
The tubed pipe excites their maddened minds
- In Phrygian measures; they bear before them knives,
- Wild emblems of their frenzy, which have power
- The rabble's ingrate heads and impious hearts
- To panic with terror of the goddess' might.
Demeter and Proserpine have become the heroines of a mystic drama; and their wanderings, and seizure, and grief, Eleusis celebrates by torchlight processions. I think that the derivation of orgies and mysteries ought to be traced, the former to the wrath (orge) of Demeter against Zeus, the latter to the nefarious wickedness (mu/soj) relating to Dionysus; but if from Myus of Attica, who Pollodorus says was killed in hunting-no matter, I don't grudge your mysteries the glory of funeral honours.
- You may understand mysteria in another way, as mytheria (hunting fables), the letters of the two words being interchanged; for certainly fables of this sort hunt after the most barbarous of the Thracians, the most senseless of the Phrygians, and the superstitious among the Greeks.
Perish, then, the man who was the author of this imposture among men, be he Dardanus, who taught the mysteries of the mother of the gods, or Eetion, who instituted the orgies and mysteries of the Samothracians, or that Phrygian Midas who, having learned the cunning imposture from Odrysus, communicated it to his subjects.
- For I will never be persuaded by that Cyprian Islander Cinyras, who dared to bring forth from night to the light of day the lewd orgies of Aphrodité in his eagerness to deify a strumpet of his own country.
Others say that Melampus the son of Amythaon imported the festivals of Ceres from Egypt into Greece, celebrating her grief in song.
These I would instance as the prime authors of evil, the parents of impious fables and of deadly superstition, who sowed in human life that seed of evil and ruin-the mysteries.
- And now, for it is time, I will prove their orgies to be full of imposture and quackery. And if you have been initiated, you will laugh all the more at these fables of yours which have been held in honour. I publish without reserve what has been involved in secrecy, not ashamed to tell what you are not ashamed to worship.
All honour to that king of the Scythians, whoever Anacharsis was,
..........who shot with an arrow one of his subjects who imitated among the Scythians
..........the mystery of the Mother of the gods, as practised by the inhabitants of Cyzicus,
- beating a drum and sounding a cymbal
- strung from his neck like a priest of Cybele,
- ..........condemning him as having become effeminate among the Greeks,
- ..........and a teacher of the disease of effeminacy to the rest of the Cythians.
Flute-PlayersPlato Cratylus
Such causes as these are like far-fetched explanations; I mean stating the middle term in too remote a form, e.g., the dictum of Anacharsis that there are no flute-players among the Scythians because there are no vines.146
1,13,n146. The full chain of implication is something like "flute-playing--thirstywork--heavy drinking--wine--grapes-- vines." Anacharsis was a Scythian ethnologist of the sixth century B.C. (Herodotus iv. 76).
Her. What is the meaning of Dionysus and Aphrodite?
Soc. Son of Hipponicus, you ask a solemn question; there is a serious and also a facetious explanation of both these names; the serious explanation is not to be had from me, but there is no objection to your hearing the facetious one; for the Gods too love a joke.
Dionusos is simply didous oinon (giver of wine), as he might be called in fun,-
and oinos is properly oionous, because wine makes those who drink, think (oiesthai) that they have a mind (nous) when they have none. The derivation of Aphrodite, born of the foam (aphoros), may be fairly accepted on the authority of Hesiod.Her. Still there remains Athene, whom you, Socrates, as an Athenian, will surely not forget; there are also Hephaestus and Ares.
"Now the lofty Ida resounds with tinklings, that the boy may cry in safety with infant mouth. Some strike their shields with stakes, some beat their empty helmets [Carnal weapons]. This is the employment of the Curetes, this of the Corybantes.
In the Orphic Hymn to Rhea: And Orphic.htmlThe matter was concealed, and imitations of the ancient deed remain; the attendant goddesses shake instruments of brass, and hoarse hides. Instead of helmets they strike cymbals, and drums instead of shields; the flute gives Phrygian strains, as it gave before." [lifeless Instruments]
Now Rhea, as Ceres, in Hymn XIV, is called 'brass-sounding' and
'drum-beating'. This has reference to the mystical results of certain sounds and rhythm, part and parcel of what the Hindus call Mantravidyâ.Music and Mantras, therefore, were used by the Orphics to attract, or call down, the influence of the Mother of the Gods, who at the same time was the 'Store-house of Life', of Divine Nature. Thus Proclus in his Commentary on Euclid (ii) tells us that 'the Pole of the World is called by the Pythagoreans the Seal of Rhea' (Myst. Hymns, p. 63). THAT IS THE MARK OF ZOE
THE MARK OF a CAPELLA the GOAT SINGERS [Statius TheBaid6]
225 each one throws a offering from his own equipment, whether reins or sword-belts or a javelin or the crest of a helmet, into the flames
[the neighboring fields resonate loudly with strident music, and ears are assaulted everywhere with the piercing sound of trumpets. The forest is alarmed by the noise: in just this way trumpets cause the military standards to be pulled out of the ground,235 they turn their attention to the flames and put the pyre to sleep with much rain water, until when the sun had set their labors were completed; their labor scarcely yielded to the late darkness. Already nine times Lucifer 61 had dismissed the dewy stars from the heaven and just as many times at night
61i.e., the morning star ('light-bearer). The following lines indicates in poetic language the passage of nine days and nights.
240 with changed horse 62 had anticipated the fires of the Moon (nor does he deceive the knowing stars and is understood to be one star rising alternately. 63) You can't imagine how fast that wonderful work was completed! The stony mass stands, a huge temple for the dead child, and a bas-relief narrates events 64 sequentially in stone:
62The sun, moon, dawn, morning and evening stars were all thought to ride in chariots pulled by horses. [Jerusalem had its own Sun Chariot because God had turned them over to worship the Starry Host: Acts 7 etc.]245 here Hypsipyle shows rivers to the tired Greeks, here the tearful infant crawls, here he lies, around the edge of the mound the scaly one makes his rough circle; the snake looks so real that you would expect bloody hissing from his mouth, so moves the snake with a sinuous motion around the marble spear. And now the crowd is eager to see the battles without weapons 65 [That is why Zoe/Eve/Mary worship wants Jesus to be an INFANT]
63Despite the different names (Lucifer and Vesper), it was known that the morning and evening star were really one and the same.
64that led up to the funeral.65i.e., athletic contests.
420 The deafening sound of feet and the thin sound of wheels can be heard. There is no rest for the hand, the air hisses with repeated blows of the whip; hail does not issue forth more densely from the cold North, nor does rain fall more densely from so many Olenian vessels. 114 Perceptive Arion, after he felt the whip, had realized that there was a different
114This is a reference to the star Capella, identified by Roman poets with Aege, the daughter of Olenos.
Hislop in Deification of the Child:
Zoe or Eve or Capella gets the GLORY over Olenos (Adam) or Saturn, "the father of gods and men,"but, in the progress of idolatry and apostacy, Rhea (Zoe), or Eve, came to get glory at Saturn's expense.
Saturn, or Adam, was represented as a morose divinity;
Rhea , or Eve, exceedingly benignant; and, in her benignity, she presented to her husband a stone bound in swaddling bands, which he greedily devoured, and henceforth the children of the cannibal father were safe.425 charioteer in the chariot. Guiltless, 115 he dreaded the harsh son of Oedipus; right from the starting line he is reluctant and more ferocious than usual, he resents his burden The Argives believe that he is motivated by desire for glory; but he is really trying to escape from the charioteer, in a frenzy he wildly threatens the charioteer,
Herodotus 4:CLXXXIX. It would seem that the robe and aegis of the images of Athena were copied by the Greeks from the Libyan women; for except that Libyan women dress in leather, and that the tassels of their goatskin cloaks are not snakes but thongs of hide,115The innocent horse was frightened by the guilt of Polynices (the son of Oedipus), who was going to attack his own city in order to wrest the kingship from his brother.
[3] Furthermore, in my opinion the ceremonial chant2 first originated in Libya: for the women of that country chant very tunefully. And it is from the Libyans that the Greeks have learned to drive four-horse chariots2 The ololugê (says Dr. Macan) was proper to the worship of Athena; a cry of triumph or exultation, perhaps of Eastern origin and connected with the Semitic Hallelu (which survives in Hallelu-jah). In honor of Kubeles also by emasculated priest-singers.
No less does Paul exclude preachers as MEDIATORS of the WORD. In John 14 the another comforter OR FULLER Comforter would be named "Jesus Christ the Righteous." Those who sing and perform CLAIM to be under control of the spirit but Paul would call it a DEMON spirit.1Ti 2:5 For there is one God, and ONE MEDIATOR between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
That means that rhetoricians, sophists and singers CANNOT lead you into the presence of God performing WRATH or ORGE.
1Ti 2:6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.
1Ti 2:7 Whereunto I am ordained a preacher, and an apostle, (I speak the truth in Christ, and LIE not;) a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and verity.
God did not ordain theatrical performers but suffering servants LESS they trump the GOSPEL and make it of non effect.
Paul identifies himself as a WE who heard Jesus Christ "face to face" or "mouth to mouth." He identified the YOU as still carnal. Therefore, if Corinth need further instructions then PAUL would write or visit. All of these were men with SUPERNATURAL gifts. No woman was ever given such a gift and NO MAN continues to have that gift. If they claim COMMAND AUTHORITY then let them heal the sick. Otherwise, they are restricted to "teaching that which HAS BEEN taught" and refuting those who oppose. Paul restricted Timothy to READING the Word in public and he did not PREACH.WRATH AND DOUBTING WILL SPEAK TO FEMALES AND HOMOSEXUAL MALES. Paul warned about this in ALL of his NOT-singing passages.
WHY THERE ARE NO MALE MEDIATORS IN RHETORIC NOR WOMEN AS SINGING ANDINSTRUMENTAL PROPHESIERS WHO WERE THE PAGAN LEADERS
THE SAME PAUL DISQUALIFIED THE PROFESSIONAL MEDIATORS IN EPHESIANS: Being blown around by winds of doctrine includes some of that PAUL writing which Peter warned that Preachers wrest to their own destruction. To prevent that Paul did not included either local preachers or singers:
Eph 4:11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
Eph 4:12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the EDIFYING (educaton) of the body of Christ:
Eph 4:13Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:This says exactly what Ephesians 5 says which no one was silly enough to interpret as a musical performance for 400 years.
PETER IDENTIFIED THE FALSE MEDIATORS. This disqualifies primarily the women who served at pagan oracles as prophetesses using "old wive's tales."
2 Pet 1:15 Moreover I will endeavour that ye may be able after my decease to have these things alway in remembrance.
2 Pet 1:16 For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty.
2 Pet 1:17 For HE received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
2 Pet 1:18 And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount.
2 Pet 1:19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy;
whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place,
until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:2Co.3:18 But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord,
are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.2 Pet 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
MEANING No Further Expounding: Those who DO that are MARKED as FALSE TEACHERS.
Revelation came in PARTS. When the PERFECTED revelation camen then the IN PART revelation would cease. That means YOUR Apostle or Prophet is a change agent from hell.
THE PUBLIC BODY OF CHRIST: How to remove the TRICKSTERS who were most often women musical performers who created MADNESS to trick people for a WAGE.
Eph 4:14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
Panourgia (g3834) pan-oorg-ee'-ah; from 3835; adroitness, i.e. (in a bad sense) TRICKERY or sophistry: - (cunning) craftiness, subtilty.
Paul now begins the publich SCHOOL of the Bible and restricts women or the professional clergy because "lergy's" Job is to TAKE AWAY THE KEY to knowledge. And "see godliness as a means of financial gain." That parses to HIRELING meaning "one who is hired" and to PROFESSION.
WHY FEMALES ARE EXCLUDED FROM THE "PRAYER" WHERE THE PURPOSE OF THE SYNAGOGUE WAS PRIMARILY INSTRUCTION.
1Ti 2:8 I will therefore that men pray every where, lifting up holy hands, without WRATH and DOUBTING
All people can pray but that does not mean "lead prayer." We do our praying by outself: the men must have holy hands to turn up toward God and the women must conduct themselves as godly women.
Wrath is ORGE meaning ORGY: music and all of the MADNESS Paul speaks about in 1 Cor 14.
[10.3.15] They invented names appropriate to the flute, and to
the noises made by castanets, cymbals, and drums,
and to their acclamations and shouts of "ev-ah," and stampings of the feet;
and they also invented some of the names by which to designate the [homosexual, emasculated]ministers, choral dancers, and attendants upon the sacred rites,
I mean "Cabeiri" and "Corybantes" and "Pans" and "Satyri" and "Tityri,"and they called the god "Bacchus," and Rhea [Eve] "Cybele" or "Cybebe" or "Dindymene" according to the places where she was worshipped. Sabazius also belongs to the Phrygian group and in a way is the child of the Mother,, since he too transmitted the rites of Dionysus.
"The physiological act of sex and orgasm not only greatly enhances the prospects, but also fires up further excitement.
"Repeatedly induced states of orgasmic collapse can produce, and have been used to produce, states of deep trance."
This is precisely the sexual purpose of an orgy as religious rite, and, in part, what the Greek God APOLLO fed CYPARISSUS in the wilds. The orgia, from which our word orgy is derived, of THE MYSTERY RELIGIONS of DIONYSOS and his homosexual SATYRS, were (in addition to the magic mushrooms and other psychoactive potions) rituals of this kind.
Candidates for initiation into the KABIRI were crowned with a garland of olive and wore a purple band round their loins. The dancing was then begun.
In fact, homosexuality was part of the ritual, what the historians in their scholarly dungeons called their "most immoral tendencies." The purpose was to evoke a passage beyond earth to a higher life. That is, "to lead the worshipers into the presence of the gods."
That is, in their mystical dances, continued leaping into the air achieves a shamanic state of trance, a transfer of consciousness analogous to the transformation of the magician into a bird whereby the apprentice masters his powers to join a gay brotherhood "who, by nature, are superior to other men." Resource
Catullus: Haste you together, she-priests, to Cybele's dense woods, together haste, you vagrant herd of the dame Dindymene, you who inclining towards strange places as exiles, following in my footsteps, led by me, comrades, you who have faced the ravening sea and truculent main, and have castrated your bodies in your utmost hate of Venus, make glad our mistress speedily with your minds' mad wanderings.
Let dull delay depart from your thoughts, together haste you, follow to the Phrygian home of Cybele, to the Phrygian woods of the Goddess, where sounds the cymbal's voice, where the tambour resounds, where the Phrygian flutist pipes deep notes on the curved reed, where the ivy-clad Maenades furiously toss their heads, where they enact their sacred orgies with shrill-sounding ululations, where that wandering band of the Goddess flits about: there it is meet to hasten with hurried mystic dance."
When Attis, spurious woman, had thus chanted to her comity, the chorus straightway shrills with trembling tongues, the light tambour booms, the concave cymbals clang, and the troop swiftly hastes with rapid feet to verdurous Ida.
Then raging wildly, breathless, wandering, with brain distraught, hurries Attis with her tambour, their leader through dense woods, like an untamed heifer shunning the burden of the yoke: and the swift Gallae press behind their speedy-footed leader. So when the home of Cybele they reach, wearied out with excess of toil and lack of food they fall in slumber. Sluggish sleep shrouds their eyes drooping with faintness, and raging fury leaves their minds to quiet ease.A Pharisee assumed spiritual superiority to change the Word and then PEDDLE it like watered wine:
2 Cor 2:17 For we are not as many, which CORRUPT the word of God: but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ.
Remembering that Jesus died to give us the FREE WATER OF THE WORD (Isa 55) and Paul said that we are COMPENTENT to teach ONE ANOTHER....
Kapeleuo (g2585) kap-ale-yoo'-o; from kapelos , (a huckster); to retail, i.e. (by impl.) to adulterate (fig.): - corrupt
Kapêl-euô , A.to be a retail-dealer, drive a petty trade... kapêleu' drive a trade, sell by retail, 2. metaph., k. ta prêgmata, of Darius, sell learning by retail, hawk it about, 2 Ep.Cor.2.17..., i. e. fight half-heartedly, Chariti tên amoibên Epicur. traffic in grants of citizenship [church memberships?], of prostitutes, [making peace for Roman Gold] eirênên pros Rhômaious Chrusiou playing tricks with life, [p. 876] corrupting it, AP9.180 (Pall.).
The Grace Centered Concept identifies FAVORS granted to a male Charis. 4. love-charm, philtre 2. esp. in erotic sense, of favours granted. Worship of demons: V. daimonôn charis homage due to them, their worship, majesty,
Kapeleuo or HUCKSTERING in rfeligion is the Latin and always implicates women or homosexual males:
Orthopsalticus , a, um, adj., = orthopsaltikos, 1. with high, full playing: psalterium, Varr. ap. Non. 101, 1; cf. Oehler ad Varr. Sat. Menipp. p. 179.
(psaltêrion). A stringed instrument, something between the cithara and the harpa ( , 179). Picture from. * 1. From a painting at Thebes. * 2. From an original in the British Museum.
Taking note that many of the female composed "hymns" have the theme of an intimate love connection with God and the modern praise songs are silly and erotic, Arnobius speaking of the Parasites:
History notes that only female prostitutes performed singing and playing publically: if males performed they had to be drunk or homosexual.4. But all these things will be more clearly and distinctly noticed when we have proceeded further. For we shall show that Christ did not teach the nations impiety, but delivered ignorant and wretched then from those who most wickedly wronged them. 16 We do not believe, you say, that what He says is true.
Was it for this He sent souls, that beings of a sacred and august race should here practise singing and piping ;Note 16 Lit. "the ignorance of wretched men from the worst robbers," i.e., the false prophets and teachers, who made a prey of the ignorant and credulous. John viii. 46.
Salvation was from the CROOKED generation. Crooked speaks of twisted people but of the SKOLION songs so common in the symposia where homosexual males met and competed in drinking wine and singing songs. Thus, Paul said DON'T get drunk with wine, BUT be filled with the Spirit (Word) and then SPEAK one to another with the SINGING and MELODY in the heart.
that they should swell out their cheeks in blowing the flute ;
that they should take the lead in singing impure songs, and raising the loud din of the castanets, by which another crowd of souls should be led in their wantonness to abandon themselves to clumsy motions,
to dance and sing, form rings of dancers , and finally, raising their haunches and hips, float along with a tremulous motion of the loins?Was it for this He sent souls, that in men they should become IMPURE,
in women harlots, players on the triangle and psaltery ; that they should prostitute their bodies for hire, should abandon themselves to the lust of all ready in the brothels, to be met with in the stews, ready to submit to anything, prepared to do violence to their mouth even?
The word ADULTERY and KLEPTO is associated with this verse. The concept of arousal singing to produce the outlawed PLEASURING is also connected with KLEPTOMANIA by the "heretics" who LIFT YOU UP to carry you away for THEIR OWN PLEASURES.
History also nots that when you go from SPEAK or SAY to quote or become "rhetorical" (meaning of hypocrite) it was a SIGN of effeminacy and the CAUSE of an effeminate nation.
Hdt.1.155 Heredotus: Cyrus told how to take the FIGHT out of the enemy: [4] But pardon the Lydians, and give them this command so that they not revolt or pose a
and order them to wear tunics under their cloaks
and knee-boots on their feet,
and to teach their sons lyre-playing [kitharizein]
and song [psallein] and dance
and shop-keeping [huckstering].
And quickly, O king,
you shall see them become women instead of men,
so that you need not fear them, that they might revolt."That proves that Satan us using the neutered performers to neuter the church.
Carol Wimber of Vineyard, aka New Wineskins, pushed into the most conservative churches praise songs which she suggests create a SEXUAL-LIKE CLIMAX with the Spirit: just before 'giving of substance' of course.
NOW you know what Paul also OUTLALWED for the MALES or male female impersonators. Again look at verse 8
Again: 1Ti 2:8 I will therefore that men pray every where, lifting up holy hands, without WRATH and DOUBTING
Jesus promised to "appear to thee" in the future to guide him into all truth just as he had the original apostles. The word WILL is not just a suggestion. It has nothing to do with gender but is directed especially to women who had been the upstanders and upspeakers in pagan religionis. Sermon outline 101 is just NOT able to read ALL of the words. You must understand WILL, HOLY HANDS, without WRATH and without DOUBTFUL DISPUTATIONS outlawed in Romans 14 so you can SPEAK with one mind and one mouth THAT WHICH IS WRITTEN. That is not too hard?
FIRST: WILL IS:
Boulomai Hom. uses boulomai for ethelô in the case of the gods, for with them wish is will ethelô is more general, and is sts. used where boulomai might have stood. Paul was speaking FOR Jesus Christ and therefore his WILL was God's Will.
Boulomai: 2. in Hom. of gods, he willed victory to the Trojans, to boulomenon tên politeian plêthos that supports the constitution
WRATH: When god pours out His wrath the word is ORGE where He sends jesters and Buffoons:
Paul in defining the synagogue in Romans 2 rejected SELF-pleasing which connects directly to the use of music to enchant or charm. The word REPROACHES predicted about Jews would guard against the sexual and homosexual outbreaks if the church permitted any kind of music. For some references to ORGE or ORGY produced by instrumental music Click Here.
Tubal-Cain is a Kabir, "an instructor of every artificer in brass and iron"; or, if this will please better, he is one with Hephaestos or Vulcan -- Vul-cain, the greatest god also with the later Egyptians, and the greatest Kabir. The god of time was Chium in Egypt, or Saturn, or Seth, and Chium is the same as Cain.
Jabal is taken from the Kabiri -- instructors in agriculture, "such as have cattle," and Jubal is "the father of those who handle the harp," he, or they who fabricated the harp for Kronos and the trident for Poseidon.
The timeless Kabiri
From Theosociety.org
Of the rites of Dionysus condemned by Paul in First Corinthians and the wine drinking musical worship in Ephesus:
Also resembling these rites are the Cotytian and the Bendideian rites practiced among the Thracians, among whom the Orphic rites had their beginning. Now the Cotys who is worshipped among the Edonians, and also the instruments used in her rites, are mentioned by Aeschylus; for he says,
O adorable Cotys among the Edonians, and ye who hold mountain-ranging instruments;
And he mentions immediately afterwards the attendants of Dionysus: one, holding in his hands the bombyces (reed flute),
toilsome work of the turner's chisel,
fills full the fingered melody, the call that brings on frenzy, while another causes to resound the bronze-bound cotylae. (cupped cymbals or vases) "and again, stringed instruments raise their shrill cry, and frightful mimickers from some place unseen bellow like bulls, and the semblance of drums, as of subterranean thunder, rolls along, a terrifying sound.Note: In connection with this bold use of "semblance" (eikôn) by Aeschylus, note Strabo's studied use of "resembles" (eoike, twice in this paragraph) and "unlikely" (apeikos). Others either translate eikôn "echo," or omit the thought.
When the pagan prophetesses performed their RITES often using singing and instruments the claimed to be able to LEAD YOU into the presence of the Gods. These RITES created PANIC or the burden of "spiritual anxiety created by religious rituals" which Jesus died to SILENCE. Remember that the Greeks defined the BEAST in Revelation as PAN. His horns were musical pan pipes which tyrants used to gain their own mountain kingdom.
Orge I. natural impulse or propension: one's temper, temperament, disposition, orgê , hê, II. passion, anger, wrath, 3. Panos orgai panic fears (i. e. terrors sent by Pan), Eur.:--but, orgê tinos anger against a person or at a thing, Soph.; hierôn orgas wrath at or because of the rites, Aesch.
G3709 orge or-gay' From G3713 ; properly desire (as a reaching forth or excitement of the mind), that is, (by analogy) violent passion... wrath.
G3713 oregomai; to stretch oneself, that is, reach out after (long for):covet after, desire.
G3735 oros or'-os perhaps akin to G142 ; compare G3733 ); a mountain (as lifting itself above the plain):Orgi-a , iôn, ta, secret rites, secret worship, practised by the initiated, of the rites of the Cabeiri [homosexuals] and Demeter, of Orpheus, of Cybele, most freq. of the rites of Dionysus .2.81, E.Ba.34, al., Theoc.26.13.
II. generally, RITES, orgia Mousôn [Rev 18:22] Ar.Ra.356 . Aphroditês [similar to Lucifer or Zoe].
Org-aô I. to be getting ready to bear, growing ripe for something,
II. of men, like sphrigaô, swell with lust, wax wanton, be rampant, ho ep' aphrodisiois mainomenos . . orgôn Poll.6.188 ; of human beings and animals, to be in heat, desire sexual intercourse, .
2. generally, to be eager or ready, to be excited, Lakedaimoniôn orgôntôn emellon peirasesthai Th.4.108 ; orgôntes krinein judge under the influence of passion,
Aphrodisiois mainomenos . .
Aphrodisios [From Aphroditê]
I. belonging to Aphrodite,
II. Aphrodisia, ta, sexual pleasures, .
2. a festival of Aphrodite,Aphrodisiois mainomenos . .
Mainomai I. to rage, be furious, Hom.; ho maneis the madman, Soph.: to be mad with wine, Od.:--of Bacchic frenzy, Il., Soph.; hupo tou theou m. to be driven mad by the god, Hdt.; to mainesthai madness, Soph.; plein ê mainomai more than madness, Ar.:--c. acc. cogn., memênôs ou smikran noson mad with no slight disease, Aesch.This is the same MENTAL EXCITEMENT which Paul outlawss as NOT Christian and NOT possible in the assembly. The mental excitement was almost always caused by music to induce MADNESS or "prophesying."
DISPUTING has the same meaningas the DOUBTFUL DISPUTATIONS or DIALOG In Romans 14. The idea is that you don't JUDGE or DISPUTE personal diversities because you can be DIVERSE and still conduct SCHOOL OF THE BIBLE if you speak that which has been written.G700 areskÿ ar-es'-ko Probably from G142 (through the idea of exciting emotion); to be agreeable (or by implication to seek to be so please.
G142 airo ah'ee-ro A primary verb; to lift; by implication to take up or away; figuratively to raise (the voice), keep in suspense (the mind); specifically to sail away (that is, weigh anchor); by Hebraism (compare [ H5375 ]) to expiate sin:away with, bear (up), carry, lift up, loose, make to doubt, put away, remove, take (away, up).
G1261 dialogismos dee-al-og-is-mos' From G1260 ; discussion, that is, (internal) consideration (by implication purpose), or (external) debate:dispute, doubtful (-ing), imagination, reasoning, thought.Peter outlawed private interpretation which means 'further expounding." The Bible is the TEXT of the ekklesia or school of the Bible. It provides no cracks for professional rhetoricians (hypocrites) to perform or singers to first modify and then present their message intending to AROUSE people which is always a sexual attack and THE meaning of WRATH.
In the environment in which Christianity arose was surcharged with such phenomena (raving prophecy). In the Greek oracles messages were uttered by priests or priestesses in a state of ecstasy,consciousness being in abeyance, and it was necessary to interpret them to the laity, as both Plutarch and Heraclitus testify... In the orgies of the cult of Dionysus music, dancing, drink, and other means were employed to supereninduce the ecstatic state, in which the devotees ate raw flesh, disported themselves with frenzied enthusiasm in the forests, and indulged in wild phallic excesses.
"The religious ecstasy induced by music expressed itself either in an outburst of emotions, thus giving rise to religious catharsis, or in a transfer to the state of PROPHECY.The ecstatic person was 'in the divinity' and out of normal consciousness. Cicero makes prophecy and madness practically synonymous." (Clark, Elmer T., The Small Sects in America, p. 86, Abingdon)
Note that a prophet or prophesy means to MAKE SELF A PROPHET: they might prophesy the end of the world today but that does not meant that they are TRUE prophets. A writing prophet has been mouth to mouth with the Spirit of Christ. Thereafter, we prophesy by REPEATING that which has been written.
"In this way MUSIC became an important factor in divination. In the mysteries of the MAGNA MATER this relationship between MUSIC and DIVINATION is particularly clear. [The Serpent in the garden was a Musical Enchanter or Diviner: now, SHE has moved in]
"Through the din of tambourines, cymbals (locusts) and flutes the ecstatic worshiper of the GODDESS prophesied the future to those present.
"This relationship also explains why the expression for "making music" and "prophesying" was often identical in the ancient tongues. origen contra celsum 8.67. (Quasten, Johannes, Music and Worship in Pagan and Christian Antiquity, p. 39)
This utterly silences the women in a non-sedentary role which automatically projects "authentia" or sexual authority which is also murderous. If women are quite the OUTBREAK even in frontier awakenings--like Iraq devil worship--would not break out.
"One of the greatest of all Greek dramas, The Bacchae powerfully dramatizes the
conflict between the emotional and rational sides of the human psyche.
When the people of Thebes deny the existence of the god Dionysos, he punishes them
by unleashing the full force of female sexuality,
thereby destroying social order and driving them to certain tragedy.
"It is symptomatic of structures that have lost their elasticity, becoming too rigid to accommodate further development, to intensify the semantics of self-reference as a sort of final act of self-reassurance.
The patterns of self-reference by drama to drama as we see them in The Bacchae of Euripides reflect a crisis in the very genre of tragedy,
in the context of drastic changes in Athenian society toward the end of the fifth century; the prospect is one of abrupt confrontation and loss." -- Nagy, Pindar's Homer p. 388
You under the SAME obligation to silence the DISPUTER or EXPOUNDER who feels compelled to ENHANCE the Word of God. When you see the word CHARISMA or the ability to arouse love from both male and female then you HAVE trouble in river city. He will, to get his wage, feel obligated to create the loud speaking or singing style and fall into an ORGY or WRATH better left to the homosexual women goddesses and their emasculated priestlings.
Paul demanded that we worship in the PLACE of the Spirit and even singing and melody are IN THE HEART. He warned that outside of that you had dogs or catamites--probably Cynics--recognized by their whining, howling style of singing:Now that you have OUTLAWED just about everything done in the modern CHURCHE (Circe, circus) for the MEN, The women are LIKEWISE not to get involved with the charismatic dialog or AROUSAL rituals with music. Rather, if the SCHOOL of the Bible is to function then the women will not PUT ON APPAREL (which may be a liturgical garment) or the adornment which MARKED the prostitute musicians in the marketplace.
kuôn Harpies, A.R.2.289; of Hecate, in Mithraic worship, Porph.Abst.4.16; of the Bakchai, Lussas k. E.Ba.977 (lyr.);Euripides, Bacchae 977 Chorusluss-a, Att. lutta^ , hê,
A. rage, fury, in Hom. always of martial rage, kraterê de he l. deduken Il.9.239 ; l. echôn oloên ib.305; l. de hoi kêr aien eche kraterê 21.542 .
2. after Hom., raging madness, frenzy, such as was caused by the gods, as that of 10, lussês pneumati margôi A.Pr.883 (anap.); of Orestes, Id.Ch.287, E.Or.254, etc.; of the Proetides, B.10.102; of Bacchic frenzy, elaphra l. E. Ba.851 ; thoai Lussas kunes, of the Furies, ib.977 (lyr.); lussêi parakopos Ar.Th.680 : strengthd., l. manias S.Fr.941.4 ; lutta erôtikê Pl.Lg.839a ; l. alone, of raging love, Theoc.3.47; simply, rage, Phld.Ir.p.77 W.; fanaticism, peri tas haireseis Gal.8.148 (pl.).
3. personified, Lussa the goddess of madness, E.HF823.
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Go to the mountain, go, fleet hounds of Madness, where the daughters of Kadmos hold their company, and drive them raving 980] against the mad spy on the Maenads, the one dressed in women's attire. His mother will be the first to see him from a smooth rock or crag, as he lies in ambush, and she will cry out to the maenads: 985] "Who is this seeker of the mountain-going Kadmeans who has come to the mountain, to the mountain, Bacchae? Who bore him? For he was not born from a woman's blood, but is the offspring of some lioness 990] or of Libyan Gorgons.
See First Corinthians Chapter one: Paul usually lays down the DIRT of Jewish and pagan religionism of the crooked Generation of those NOT true Israelites before giving his solution to keep this same ORGY from breaking out later in the book.
1Timothy 2:9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel,
with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;
1Timothy 2:10 But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works.
1Timothy 2:11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
1Timothy 2:12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
1Timothy 2:13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
1Timothy 2:14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
1Timothy 2:15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing,
if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.
Women in these orges might miscarry or the word "authentia" authority means "both erotic and murderous." Women had children specificially to offer them as human sacrifices especially at Jerusalem.
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