Believeth Not: Hdt. 6.108 [
3] We advise you to put yourselves under
the protection of the Athenians, since they are your neighbors and not
bad men at giving help.” The Lacedaemonians gave this advice not so
much out of goodwill toward the Plataeans as wishing to cause trouble
for the Athenians with the Boeotians. [
4] So the Lacedaemonians gave this
advice to the Plataeans,
who did not disobey [
Apisteo] it. When the Athenians
were making sacrifices to the twelve gods,
they sat at the altar as suppliants and put themselves under
protection. When the Thebans heard this, they marched against the
Plataeans, but the Athenians came to their aid.
Believeth Not Believeth not means to comply: Aesch. PB 640 I do not know how to refuse you
[apistēsai] . You shall learn in truthful
speech all that you would like to know. Yet I am ashamed to tell about
the storm of calamity sent by Heaven, of the marring of my form, and of
the source from which it swooped upon me, wretched that I am.
Yielding obedience
[peistheis] to such prophetic utterances of Loxias, [670] he
drove me away and barred me from his house, against his will and mine;
but the constraint of Zeus forced him to act by necessity
Believeth Not: Eur. Supp. 381 Theseus addresses one of his own heralds. As he speaks, the Herald from King Creon of
Thebes enters.
A PREACHER IS A HERALD AND HAD NOT WORDS TO ADD TO THAT WHICH IS WRITTEN BY THE SENDER.
Theseus With this art you have always served the state and me by carrying [
Kerugma Luke 11:32]]
my
proclamations far and wide;
now cross Asopus and the waters of Ismenus,
and
declare this message to the haughty king of the Cadmeans:
[385]
“Theseus, your neighbor, one who well may win what he craves, begs as a
favor your permission to bury the dead, winning to yourself the love of
all the Erechtheidae.”
And if they are
willing, thank them and come
back again,
but if they do not hearken
[apistōs']
your second message runs thus:
[390] they may expect my warrior army; for at the sacred fount of
CalIichorus my army camps in readiness and is being reviewed. Moreover,
the city gladly of its own accord undertook this labor, when it
perceived my wish
Believeth and Believeth not proves TO COMPLY or REFUSE to comply:
Plat. Laws 941c and this the lawgiver, as it
behoves him, knows better
than the whole tribe of poets.
He, therefore,
that hearkens
[peistheis] to our speech is blessed, and deserves blessing for all
time;
but he that hearkens
[apistēsas] not shall,
in the next place, be holden by
this law:—If anyone
steals any piece of public property, he shall
receive the same punishment, be it great or small. For he that steals a
small thing steals with equal greed, though with less power, while he
that takes a large thing which he has not deposited does wrong to the
full;
The Word of God outlaws poetry or music:
Plat. Laws 812d
Note that one sang TO a harp: a note was struck and the voice was matched to it and did not add another component.
Athenian
So, to attain this object, both
the lyre-master and his pupil must use the notes of the lyre, because
of the distinctness of its strings, assigning to the notes of the song
notes in tune with them;
but as to divergence of sound and variety in the notes of the harp,
when the strings sound the one tune and the composer of the melody
another, or when there results a combination of low and high notes, of
slow and quick time, of sharp and grave,
i.e. the notes of the instrument must be in accord with those of the
singer's voice. “The tune, as composed by the poet, is supposed to have
comparatively few notes, to be in slowish time, and low down in the
register; whereas the complicated variation, which he is condemning,
has many notes, is in quick time, and high up in the register.”
[812e] and all sorts of rhythmical
variations are adapted to the notes of the lyre,
—no such complications
should be employed in dealing with pupils who have to absorb quickly,
within three years, the useful elements of music.
For the jarring of
opposites with one another
impedes easy learning; and the young should
above all things learn easily, since the necessary lessons imposed upon
them are neither few nor small,—which lessons our discourse will
indicate in time as it proceeds. So let our educator regulate these
matters in the manner stated. As regards the character of the actual
tunes and words which the choir-masters ought to teach
The Word of God outlaws Rhetoric:
Plat. Euthyd. 305b he is wrong, and so is
anyone else who decries it: though I must say I felt he was right in
blaming the readiness to engage in discussion with such people before a
large company.
Socrates
Crito,
these people are very odd. But I do not yet know what answer I shall
give you. Of which party was he who came up to you and blamed
philosophy? Was he one of those who excel in the contests of the
courts, an orator; or of those who equip the orators for the fray, a
composer of the speeches they deliver in their contests?
Rhetor public speaker A.
public speaker, “muthōn rhētores” E.Hec.124 (anap.), cf. Fr.597.4, Isoc.8.129,
Agonizomai
3.
contend for the prize on the stage, of the rhapsode,
Hdt.5.67; of the playwright,
Ar.Ach.140,
419; of the actor,
D.19.246, cf.
250,
Arist.Po.1451a8; of the choragus,
D. 21.66: c. acc., “
dramata”
IG12(7).226 (Amorgos): generally,
contend for victory, “
kalōs . . ēgōnisai”
Pl.Smp.194a, cf.
Mx.235d;
argue,
holps tō pragmati about the question as a whole,
Hp.Mi.369c; esp.
argue sophistically, opp.
dialegomai,
Tht.167e.