In Civilized Greek Society
musicians and sexuality was bound together in the worship of
their gods and goddesses. Musicians, gifted by
Apollyon were prostitutes, abominable, reprobate and
despised. Despised is what members feel
when they
musicians USURP the authority of the elders. The Word is
AUTHENTIA:
Rick.Atchley.The.New.Hermeneutic.html
1.Timothy.2.Women.Authority.Authentia.html
[1]
Authent-ēs
A. murderer, Hdt.1.117,
E.Rh.873,
Th.3.58;
“tinos”
E.HF1359,
A.R.2.754;
suicide, Antipho 3.3.4,
D.C.37.13:
[2]
more
loosely, one of a murderer's family, E.Andr.172.
Telling the children they bear "unsafely" that Paul and
Holy Scripture is a lie.
[3] 2.
perpetrator, author, “praxeōs”
Plb.22.14.2;
“hierosulias
[A Temple
Robber or a robber of faithful churches to join the
instrumental sectarians] “dēmos
authentēs
khthonos”
praxis action in drama, opp. logos,
4. magical operation, spellaction
in drama, opp. logos,
Plat.
Lach. 192a quickness, [ērōtōn] as we find
it in running and harping [kitharizein], in speaking
and learning 2. practice, i.e. trickery,
treachery, VIII. discourse, lecture
of a rhetorician or philosopher, Jul.Or.2.59c,
[4]
“dēmos authentē
khthonos”
3. Earth, as a goddess,
E.Supp.442
A.Pr.207,
Eu.6.
[5] “authenta
hēlie
Helios, the sun-god, Od.8.271
Hēliou
astēr,
of the planet Saturn, identified with Apollon,
Helius, the sun-god, son of
Hyperion father of Circe [Circe, Kirke or church is the
holy harlot around Patmos
[7] astēr
aster'
opōrinō
II. metaph. of illustrious persons,
etc., “phanerōtaton
aster'
Athēnas”
E.Hipp.1122
(lyr.);
[8] “Mousaōn
astera
kai
Kharitōn”
GRACES [The Muses in Revelation 18 as sorcerers
were led by Apollon and were known as adulterers and
SHEPHERDESSES. They were the Brides or Nymphs in
Revelation as part of the Hieros Gamos:
They are called sorcerers using the same word as the
original Babylon Mother of Harlots. That is why John
groups sorcerers with dogs (male priests) and promised
that THEY WILL BE CAST ALIVE
INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE
Rick.Atchley.The.New.Hermeneutic.html
12.31.13
[2 Cor. 3]
HERMES IS LOGOS HERMENEUTIC |
JESUS SPEAKS LOGOS
GOD'S WORD |
NEW
HERMENEUTICS-A LYING SPIRIT
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THE NEW
COVENANT-MEANING OF SPIRIT
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2Chr. 18:21 And he
said, I will go out, and be a LYING SPIRIT
in the mouth of all his prophets.
And the LORD said, Thou shalt entice him, and thou
shalt also prevail: go out, and do even so.
2Chr. 18:22 Now therefore, behold, the LORD hath put
a lying spirit in the mouth of these thy prophets,
and the LORD hath spoken evil against thee.
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Is. 59:21 As for
me, this is my covenant with them, saith the Lord;
My SPIRIT
that is upon thee,
and my WORDS
which I have put in thy MOUTH,
shall not depart out of thy MOUTH,
nor out of the MOUTH
of thy seed, nor out of the MOUTH of
thy seed’s seed, saith the Lord, from henceforth and
for ever. |
CLICK
FOR HERMES god of liars, thieves,homosexuality
ALWAYS Religion-Sex-Music-extortion |
Heb. 4:15 For we
have not an high priest which cannot be touched with
the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all
points tempted like as we are, yet without sin. |
Rubel
Shelly: Ironically, a Greek
philosopher named Heraclitus of
Ephesus (later John's hometown!),
whose work dates from around 500 B.C.,
speculated about a logos that ruled
and gave structure to the world. He saw
logos as a mysterious force "by which
all things are steered through all things."
Hermes
made love to all of the goddesses and "also loved
young men in pederastic
relationships where he bestowed and/or
taught something related to combat, athletics,
herding, poetry and music
http://www.pineycom.com/FathHippolAnt5.html
Worshipping, however, Cyllenius with especial distinction,
they style him Logios. For Mercury [Hermes] is Logos,
who being interpreter and fabricator of the things that have been
made simultaneously, and that are being produced, and that will exist, stands
honoured among them fashioned into some such
figure as is the pudendum of a man, having an impulsive power from the parts below
towards those above. And that this
(deity)-that is, a Mercury of this
description-is, (the Naassene) says,
a conjurer of the dead, and a guide of departed spirits,
and an originator of souls; nor does this
escape the notice of the poets,
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God's
Word is ANTITHESIS: not plagiarism as charged by new
hermeneutics. SPEAK or READ is the Gender Trap.
Walter
Brueggeman at Lipscomb University
Logos
computation,
reckoning 2. statement of a theory,
argument,
IV. Regulative and formative forces, derived
from the intelligible and operative in the sensible
universe,
Opposite to epithumia
Theaomai :--gaze at,
behold, mostly with a sense of wonder, 3.
view as spectators
Opp. Pathos A. that
which happens to a person or thing, incident,
accident, Moralizing Rhetoric
Opp. Poiein to excite passion,
Arist.Rh.1418a12;
V. Rhet., emotional style, Enthousi-astikos ,
ē, on, A. inspired,
“phusis” Pl.Ti.71e;
esp. by music,
Prose, OPPOSITE -poięsis, Id.R.390a;
OPPOSITE -poiętikę, D.H.Comp.6;
OPPOSITE poięmata, onomatopoeic
word
X. the Word or Wisdom of God,
personified as his agent in creation and
world-government,
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PRIVATE
INTERPRETATION-FURTHER EXPOUNDING OUTLAWED:
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WE MERE
MORTALS ARE RESTRICTED TO READING THAT WHICH IS
WRITTEN FOR OUR LEARN. TRANSLATION OF INSPIRED
VISITOR.
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Hermēn-eia claimed by those rejecting Holy
Scripture hear DEMONS rather than Jesus.
They are delusional by using female musical
worship leader. They are defined as hated,
disreputable and abominable
Rejects all definitions of Apostle, Preacher, Herald
Aeschylus,
A Has
he, our land's dear lord, travelled safe home and has
he returned with you
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diermēn-euō allows
only translating or explaining the WORD ONLY
spoken one speaking a foreign or unknown language.
Rom. 15:4 For whatsoever things were written
were WRITTEN
for our LEARNING,
that we through patience and comfort of the SCRIPTURES
might have hope.
Rom. 15:6 That ye may with ONE
MIND and ONE
MOUTH glorify God, even the Father of
our Lord Jesus Christ.
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HERMENEUTICS CLAIMS
TO HEAR A SPIRIT GOD WHO BRINGS DEATH AND BURNING
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JESUS IN THE STATE
OF "HOLY SPIRIT" TEACHES ONLY THOSE WHO "CONTINUE
IN MY WORD."
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Earl Lavender Lipscomb: There are many
commentaries and workbooks for Bible study,
BUT this SERIES is different.
It employs the classic Christian method of
HOLY reading to help you HEAR THE VOICE OF GOD
”Then turn to the text and
read it slowly, gently. Savor each portion
of the reading, constantly listening for
the 'still, small voice' of a word or
phrase that somehow says, 'I am for you
today ...'
DEFINITION OF
SORCERY
Jackie.Halstead.Lectio-Divina.html
Hermēneuon
ktl. For the term hermēneuein to
describe the mediating office of daimones,
2. in Music, expression,
Plu.2.1138a, 1144d. hai Platōnikai he. Plato's gifts
of style, D.H.Pomp.1.2.
ekplēssō ,strike out of,
drive away from, expel WITH
khraō attack,
“khreiōn muthēsato Phoibos” “humnōdian .tē glōssē pros hermēneian”
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Exermēneuō
A.interpret, translate,
“eis tēn Hellada glōssan tounoma” D.H.1.67,
cf. Jul.Or.2.77d:—Pass.,
Plb.2.15.9,
D.H.4.67,
Plu.2.383d,
etc.
John 5:26 For as the Father hath life in himself;
so hath he given to the Son
to have life in himself;
John 5:27 And hath given him authority to execute
judgment also,
BECAUSE
he is the Son of man.
John 6:62 What and if ye shall see the Son of
man ascend up where he was before?
John 6:63 It is the SPIRIT
that quickeneth;
the FLESH
profiteth nothing:
the WORDS
that
I SPEAK
unto you, [Never Sung]
they are SPIRIT, and they are LIFE
1Tim. 2:5 For there is ONE
GOD,
and one MEDIATOR
between God and men,
the MAN
Christ Jesus;
1Tim. 2:6 Who gave himself a ransom for all,
to be TESTIFIED in due
time.
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APOLLO, APOLLON, APOLLYON
PROPHESIED GUIDE TO ANY MUSICAL WORSHIP
Phoēbē
The MOON
goddess, sister of Phśbus,
i. e. Diana, Luna, or the moon
[Lectio-Divina]
Phoebus a
poetical appellation of Apollon as the
god of light: Phśbean, Apollinean:
“carmina,” Lucr. 2, 504:
“lampas,” the
sun, Verg. A. 4, 6:
[Zoe-Eve in Latin Literature] “ virgo,” Ov. P. 2, 2, 82:
“laurus,” id. Tr. 4, 2,
51: “Rhodos,” where
the worship of Apollon FEMALE MUSICAL WORSHIP
MINISTERS. C.
Phoebas , priestess
of Apollo; hence the inspired
one, the prophetess
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John.T.Willis.Miriam.Prophetess.Church.Pattern.html
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Mousa
, Apollyon's Musical Worship Teams-Locusts
Dios aigiokhoio thugateres”
[Daughters whatever the sex]
[1] stugeros
A .hated,
abominated, loathed, or hateful,
abominable, loathsome
mousa
music, song, “m. stugera
kanakhan
. .1Cor. 13:1 Though I speak with the
tongues of men and of angels, and have not
charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a
tinkling cymbal.
THEIAS
etheiazon obtained
inspiration through ritual antiluron
responding to the lyre or guitar.
Aoidos , ho, (aeidō) A.singer,
minstrel, bard THEIOS a
Enchanter,
Sorcerer
[2] “adein [singers
are] adokimon mousa
adokimon
disreputable,
discredited, reprobate,
Plat.
Phaedrus 259b The
story goes that these locusts were once men,
before the birth of the Muses, and when the Muses
were born and song appeared, some of the
men were so overcome with
delight [259c]
that they sang and sang, forgetting food and
drink, until at last unconsciously they died.
From them the locust tribe afterwards arose, and
they have this gift from the Muses, that from
the time of their birth they need no sustenance,
but sing continually,
So for many reasons we ought to talk and not sleep
in the noontime
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LOCUSTS ARE APOLLYON'S
MUSICAL WORSHIP GIRLS.
Tettix
, eudaim-ōn
being led by demon (devil) o
humn-ētos , ē, on, A.sung
of, praised, lauded,
blessed with: “eudaimōn
kai humnētos”
A Joke gunaixin oud' hotioun phōnēs simile
for sweet sounds.
Plato calls them hoi
Mousōn prophētai,
Phdr.262d;
but they also became a prov. for garrulity, “lalein tettix” sēmainousi
They were thought to sing
continually without food or drink
Rev. 9:9 And they had breastplates, as it were
breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings
was as the sound of chariots of many horses running
to battle.
phōn-ē
, hē, A.
sound, tone, prop., the
sound of the voice,4.
of sounds made by inanimate
objects, mostly Poet., “kerkidos ph.” S.Fr.595;
“suriggōn”
E.Tr.127 (lyr.); “aulōn” Mnesim.4.56 (anap.); rare
in early Prose, “organōn phōnai” Pl.R.397a
Is. 5:12 And the harp, and the
viol, the tabret, and pipe, and wine, are in their
feasts: but they regard not the work of the LORD,
neither consider the operation of his hands.
Is. 5:13 Therefore my people are gone into
captivity, because they have no knowledge: and
their honourable men are famished, and their
multitude dried up with thirst.
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Matt. 11:25 At that time Jesus
answered and said, I thank thee, O Father,
Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast
hid these things from the wise and prudent,
and hast revealed them unto babes.
sophos , mantis [Mad women of
Corinth] mostly
of poets and Poetic
Skill: to use fraud for an end,
sophia , Ion. -iē, hē, prop. A.cleverness
or skill in handicraft and art in
music and singing, tekhnē kai s. h.Merc.483,
cf. 511;
in poetry, in divination, dēmēgorikos
from dēmēgoros
Deceives: kleptō , thievish
disguise, diabolais neais
do secretly or treacherously.
doloisi k. sphagas execute
slaughter by secret frauds, |
Rev. 18:22 And the voice
of harpers, and musicians, and of
pipers, and trumpeters, shall be
heard no more at all in thee; and no craftsman, of
whatsoever craft he be, shall be found any more in
thee; and the sound of a millstone shall be heard
no more at all in thee;
Rev. 18:23 And the light of a candle shall
shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the
bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more
at all in thee: for thy merchants were the
great men of the earth; for by thy SORCERIES
were all nations DECEIVED
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Pi.N.7.81 Pindar, Nemean Odes 7
The rich man and
the poor man alike travel together to the boundary
of death. [20] And I expect that the story of
Odysseus came to exceed his experiences,
through
the sweet songs of Homer
[22] since there is a certain solemnity in his
lies and winged artfulness, and
poetic skill deceives, seducing us with
stories,
and the heart of the mass of men is blind.
For if [25] they
had been able to see the truth, then mighty Aias,
in anger over the arms, would never have planted
in his chest the smooth sword—Aias, who was the
most powerful in battle, |
Hes.
Th. 1 From the Heliconian
Muses let us begin to sing, who hold the
great and holy mount of Helicon, Thence they arise
and go abroad by night, [10] veiled in
thick mist, and utter their song with lovely
voice, praising Zeus the aegis-holder, and
queenly Hera of Argos who walks on golden sandals,
and the daughter of Zeus the aegis-holder
bright-eyed Athena, and Phoebus Apollo,
and Artemis who delights in arrows,...Thence
they arise and go abroad by night, [10]
veiled in thick mist, and utter their song
with lovely voice, praising Zeus
the aegis-holder, and queenly Hera of Argos who
walks on golden sandals, and the daughter of Zeus
the aegis-holder bright-eyed Athena, and
Phoebus ApolloNn, and Artemis who
delights in arrows, |
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Apollo and Admetus[11]
Apollo and Adonis[12]
And many more Hermes and Perseus[35]
Hermes and Pollux[36][37]
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Jackie.Halstead.Lectio-Divina.html
Rubel
Shelly and John York: Rubel: Let me give you
an example to work with in relation to the
question you've raised: homosexuality and the ordination of practicing homosexuals to
ministry. Why don't we at least entertain the
possibility that the Bible simply reflects an ANCIENT TABOO or homophobic prejudice in a few people
like Paul -- a taboo and
prejudice we need to outgrow?
Laura.Buffington.Sex.Salvation.Hieros.Gamos.html
Deut 18 The
Abomination of Those Nations
Includes the
Diviners, Enchanters
or Wizzards
Laura rejects. psaltrĭa
, ae, f., = psaltria,
. a female player on the
cithara, a lutist, incantātor ,
ōris, m. incanto, I. an
enchanter, wizard Cantus
A. Prophetic or oracular
song: 2. With
instruments, a playing,
music:
Sara.Barton.And.Religious.Communal.Sex.Language.html
Chaplin at Pepperdine
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ABSOLUTE LAW: The One-Piece Pattern.
1Pet. 4:11 If any man SPEAK,
let him speak as the oracles of
God;
[Logos:
Regulative Principle outlawing rhetoric,
music,
scenic acts intending to silence
the voice of Jesus.
if any man minister, let
him do it as of the ability which God giveth:
that God in all things may be glorified through
Jesus Christ, to whom be praise and dominion for
ever and ever. Amen.
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Rom. 1:21 Because
that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as
God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their
imaginations, and their foolish heart was
darkened.
Rom. 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they
became fools,
Rom. 1:23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible
God into an image made like to corruptible man, and
to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping
things.
WHEN GOD ABANDONS A PERSON
Rom. 1:24 Wherefore God also gave them up to
uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts,
to dishonour their own bodies between themselves
Psa. 22:16 For dogs
[canes] have compassed
me: [surrounded “legiones] the assembly
of the wicked [măligno maliciously
ejecting,] have inclosed me: [ob-sĭdĕo
to sit down before, to hem in, beset, besiege,
invest, blockade a place, possess, take
possession othey pierced my hands and my feet.
-Cănis (cănes , Plaut. Men. 5, 1,
18; id. Trin. 1, 2,
133; kuōn, kunos;
a. A shameless, vile person,
cŏhors D.
A Cynic philosopher:
“Diogenes cum choro
canum
suorum.
Dogs or Catamites who:-irrīto to
incite, excite, stimulate, instigate,
provoke, exasperate, irritate.
Attack By: ĭmĭtor , To
represent, to express, copy, portray,
sine [even without]
imitandorum carminum actu ludiones,
Attack By: carmen a
tune, song, air, lay,
strain, note, sound, both
vocal and instrumental (sc. Apollinem) concordant carmina nervis, “citharae liquidum carmen,” lyrae carmen
Set in motion by: actus driving cattle a. Of an ORATOR:
“motus est in his
orationis et ACTIS
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-therap-ōn henchman, attendant “Mousaōn therapontes” music, song stu^ger-os ,
Muses (Rev 18) as Apollon's Worshiip Team
were known as hated prostitutes, 2. gen.
hadou [ein' Aidao domoisi in the nether
world, with nouns in adjectival sense, devilish,
“thuousan ha. mēter'”
Erōs Aphroditēs th
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Phil. 3:2 Beware of dogs, beware of evil
workers, beware of the concision.
Phil. 3:3 For we are the circumcision,
which worship God in the
spirit, [place]
and rejoice in Christ
Jesus,
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AFTER MASSIVE SOWING OF DISCORD, TRANSITIONING
CHURCHES OF CHRIST TO THE INSTRUMENTAL SECT, THE BOAST WAS
THAT CHURCHES OF CHRIST WERE DYING. THEY CAUSED THE
MASSIVE TRIBULATION BUT THEY WILL GLADLY TAKE OVER YOUR
FAILING CONGREGATION. THIS IS THE ONLY MEANING OF HERESY
OR SECTARIANISM.
WHAT THE NEW HERMENEUTICS AND LOST OF TRUST IN LEADERS
HAS PRODUCED CONTRARY TO THE LIES.
After they drive your congregation into ruins, they have
a fund to REpurpose it.
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APOSTATE
THEOLOGIANS AND UNIVERSITIES, ACCORDING TO JUDE,
ARE FOREORDAINED TO THIS JUDGMENT. REJOICE AND BE
GLAD WHEN THEY STEAL YOUR PHYSICAL STUFF.
Luke 18:6 And the Lord said,
Hear what the unjust judge saith.
Luke 18:7 And shall not God
avenge his own elect,
which cry day and night unto him,
though he bear long with them?
Luke 18:8 I tell you that
he will avenge them speedily.
Nevertheless when the Son of
man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?
Singers, instrument players, craftsmen [STAFF] are
called parasites and sorcerers and will be or ARE
BEING CAST ALIVE INTO
THE LAKE OF FIRE.
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"Lard wrote “the question of
instrumental music in the church of Christ involves a
great and sacred principle … That principle is the
right of men to introduce innovations into the
prescribed worship of God. This right we utterly deny”
(Lard’s Quarterly, Vol. IV, No. 4).
While singing
as an act had been divisive in 373 and the command is
to SPEAK that which is written for our learning the
practice of group singing was always accepted as a
community activity and did not in the Restoration
Movement deliberately sow discord. It is part of
the diversionary tactics to pretend that churches of
Christ INVENTED and IMPOSED congregational singing: it
is a mark of ignorance to call it "a cappella" which
identified the small group "organum" or simple harmony
of the Pope's castrate singers in the Sistine Chapel.
"However, others rose to defend the
instrument. The champion of the instrument was
Isaac Erret and the paper Christian
Standard. Erret wrote “We may as well state now,
that we intend to counsel against the use of
instrumental music in our churches. Our object is to
persuade brethren who favor such use to
hold their preferences in
abeyance for the sake of harmony … it is wrong
to make this difference a test of fellowship or
an occasion of stumbling.” (Christian
Standard, May 7, 1870, page 148). source
It is clear
that Erret called the use of the instrument THEIR
PREFERENCE which will destroy harmony. However, he saw
preference as a RIGHT which need not be exercised for
the sake of the weak. The use of the instrument was
clearly an INNOVATION which suddenly arose especially
after the carpetbags were filled and the edifice wars
began. This refutes those who pretended that
everyone thought that instruments were acceptable and
the evil Churches of Christ arose to purge them from
churches. When you are an expert on PERSUASION
(that sorcery word) the truth does not matter. All of
the denominations at the time experienced the
INTRUSION of something deemed wrong and divisive:
Baptists were still being disturbed in the early 20th
century.
"Joe T. Poe wrote from
Texas “The old church in Huntsville has put the organ in
and some of its best
members out.” source
While
the Disciples spoke only of the "organ" they also said
that if the organ was used AS worship it would be
sinful. The organ, as in the history of the
Catholics, set the tune. L.L.Pinkerton
divisively imposed a melodeon because the singing was so
bad.
H.T. Anderson: “There is no law
against instrumental music in churches;
therefore, those who use it are not transgressors” (Christian
Standard, June 12, 1869, page 186.) Again
and again instrumentalists said it was just a matter of
preference. One brother, E.M. Schrock wrote to Ben
Franklin and said “If you prefer to worship without an
organ, it is none of my business; and if I wish to use an
organ, it is none of your business.” Franklin replied “But
suppose we both meet in the same congregation, how can
this rule be carried out? Can you worship with it and we
without it? No sir; if you worship with it, we must
worship with it!” (ACR, Jan 1,1878, page 4).
The LEGALISTIC Law of Silence was
invented to impose the organ as all honest students
know.
“Just show me one verse that says ‘Thou shalt not have
a piano or organ.’” Errett and his cronies, like
Rick Atchley and others today, knew there was no such
passage. However, what they failed to reckon with is that
biblical silence never authorizes us to do
anything. source
Churches of Christ responded: "The LAW
of Silence does not AUTHORIZE you to
deliberately sow discord." Of course, Bible
students know that God
was never SILENT about people who used the
presumed-supernatural sounds of brass (bell-metal
the serpent) or the twang of the bowstring as it
sent a "singing" arrow and supernaturally killed an
animal as if by
magic.
The
Christian Standard looms large in the
Instrumental Controversy:
J. E. Choate and
Adron Doran in The Christian Scholar note that:
In 1890 the
first convention was called at Chattanooga to organize
the state society. The only churches in the state of
Tennessee were those who had already adopted the organ in their
worship. The Christian Standard pumped up the news and "it is reported
that the brethren in Nashville, Tennessee are desirous
of entertaining our National
Convention next year."
This of course was just two congregations. A survey showed that out of 2500
members in Nashville, less than one hundred wanted
the society. Lipscomb
noted that among the Society people "the Bible is as
popular as last year's almanac." "The supporters of the
missionary society organized the Tennessee State
Missionary Convention on October 6, 1890, with
one purpose in mind, as stated by J. H. Garrison. He said at that time: "We will take
Tennessee for organized mission work...within
five years
The implication is that Churches of
Christ in the South had NEVER been unioned with the Christians: that is
not to disparage the Independant churches but to
debunk the bunk used as psychologial violence to
intimidate.
"Isaac Errett who
influenced Campbell to sign over (extorted?) his copyright, had argued that it was absolutely necessary to the unity of the church to have unity of worship, and
the latter could not be maintained unless
the brethren all used one hymn book--Campbell's.
Accordingly, the Standard and the
Society opposed
vigorously the publication of any other hymn book.
Lipscomb by selling a hymn book printed in Canada
had been visited by some of the ire of
these men." (West, p. 171)
The
Rick Atchley
interview is a perfect model to use in comparing
the sudden
intensity of a century-old attack against what
became Churches of
Christ. The singular doctrine which gives
rise to all others is and has been the refusal of
Churches of Christ to impose the use of what they
call instrumental music or instrumental praise. It might come as a
shock to learn that the Church of Christ (the
Rock) in the wilderness excluded "vocal or
instrumental rejoicing" along with any
self-speak. The godly Jews continued to
wait for Shiloh by attending a school of the
Word on the rest days: this was called a holy
convocation. No Jew ever tried to
connect music
to a synagogue until the year 1815 in Germany. Lucky
for the faithful the judge ruled that the
liberal rabbi would have to LEAVE and pay
for his own synagogue. Modern faithful
suffer the despoiling of their property and
Christian family and let everything stolen.
Rick Atchley responds to
questions
which call for Biblical and historical
responses which should cause people to
stop "infiltrating and diverting" as
they say to turn your church "into a
theater for holy entertainment."
Rick and others justify it
because as some say "we gonna save
more souls."
Rick Atchley: As
minister of the Word at The Hills Church of
Christ, Rick Atchley leads a congregation that
has expanded to three campuses in the
Greater Fort Worth, Texas, area and ministers to 5,000
people each weekend.
The Hills has a
background as an a cappella church of Christ,
but has transitioned
over the past few years to include instrumental
worship in most services.
Following in the steps of Max Lucado, Rick's church will be
the MOTHER CHURCH. Doesn't that ring a bell?
The LOGOS speak
words absolutely demands that you "teach that which has
been written for our learning" and it absolutely outlaws
any of the hypocritic arts and crafts. As a
theologian Rick Atchley composes sermons based on what
he wishes to be taught as do most preachers but NOT of the Word. Postmodernism suggests that if Jesus
lived in our culture He would have seen the need of
musical and rhetorical performers.
SPEAKING IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE EKKLESIA, SYNAGOGUE OR
CHURCH must be stripped of everything human
talent can bring.
The works of human hands suddenly become the MEANS of worshiping God:
waving, pointing, clapping, picking and grinning.
Logos,
verbal noun of lego
Opposite
kata pathos [your
experiences are filthy rags]
Opposite music, poetry or rhetoric
Opposite
human reasoning
Opposite
Epagoge bringint in to one's aid, introduction
Alurement, enticement, incantation, spell
Opposite Pathos A.
that which happens to a person or thing, incident,
accident,
where
this incident took place, unfortunate
accident,
2.
what one has experienced, good or bad, experience
II. of
the soul, emotion, passion (“legō de pathē . . holōs hois hepetai hēdonē ē lupē” Arist.EN1105b21),
“sophiē psukhēn pathōn aphaireitai”
Aristot.
Nic. Eth. 1105b.20 A state of the soul is
either (l) an emotion, (2) a capacity,
or (3) a disposition; virtue therefore must be
one of these three things. [2]
By the emotions, I mean desire, anger, fear,
confidence, envy, joy, friendship, hatred, longing,
jealousy, pity; and generally those states of
consciousness which are accompanied by pleasure or
pain.
[3] Now the virtues
and vices are not emotions because
we are not pronounced good or bad according to our
emotions, but we are according to our virtues
and vices; nor are we either praised or
blamed for our emotions—a man is not praised for
being frightened or angry, nor is he blamed for
being angry merely, but for being angry in a certain
way—
Sophia, A. cleverness
or skill in handicraft and art in music
and singing, tekhnē kai s. h.Merc.483,
cf. 511;
in poetry, Sol.13.52,
Pi.O.1.117,
Ar.Ra.882,
X.An.1.2.8,
in divination, S.OT 502
Opposite Poiein to excite passion,
Arist.Rh.1418a12;
V. Rhet., emotional style
or treatment, to sphodron kai enthousiastikon p. Longin.8.1;
“pathos poiein” Arist. Rh.1418a12;
“
Poiein
something you create: works of art, bring
into existence, schemes, of poets, compose, write,4.
after Hom., of
Poets, compose, write, p. dithurambon, epea, Hdt.1.23,
4.14;
“p. theogoniēn Hellēsi” Id.2.53;
p. Phaidran, Saturous, Ar.Th.153,
157;
p. kōmōdian, tragōdian, etc., Pl.Smp.223d;
“palinōdian” Isoc.10.64,
Pl.Phdr.243b,
etc.;
b. represent
in poetry, c. describe in verse,
“theon en epesin” Pl.R.379a;
epoiēsa muthous tous Aisōpou put them
into verse, Id.Phd. 61b;
“muthon” Lycurg.100.
The BEAST
in Revelation is not a literal animal which you can resist:
Thērion , to/
(in form Dim. of thēr), Trag. only in Satyric
drama,
III. as a term of reproach, beast,
creature,
mousikē aei ti kainon thērion tiktei”
Meaning A New Style of Music or Drama
CONTRARY TO ALMOST ALL CHURCH MUSIC AND
RHETORIC
Rick
Atchley: Since graduating
from Abilene (Texas) Christian University, Atchley has
been in the preaching ministry for 33 years and has
served The Hills for the past 22 years. He has written
several books, including Together Again,
a call to a restoration of unity within our unity
movement which he coauthored with Bob Russell.
As proven by Alexander
Campbell, Churches of Christ are not a
denomination. There is nothing to unite in the institutional sense. That is
why Alexander mocked the "handshake" in 1832
understanding that "restoration" mandated by the
Spirit OF Christ and all aspects of Messiah's Rest
is defined in the Prophets:
Isa 58:12 And
they
that shall be of thee shall build [aedificabuntur] the old waste
places:
thou shalt raise up the foundations [fundāmentum] of many
generations;
and thou shalt
be called,
The repairer of the breach,
The restorer [aedificator] of paths to
dwell in. [Rest]
Aedĭfĭco ,
1 Thessalonians 5.11 Therefore exhort one another,
and build each other up, even as you also do.
altĕr-ŭter
, I. One of two, the one or the
other, either, no matter which
Fundāmentum , a
foundation, ground-work, basis
“disciplina
nixa
fundamento
veritatis,”
Paths: sēmĭta , the narrow
way, of a way
of life, course of conduct, etc.: “justitiae,” Vulg. Prov. 2, 8:
“justorum,”
Sabbath does not mean Saturday but: intermission:
Work outlaws "sending out ministers of God."
A primitive root; to repose, that is, desist from exertion; used in many implied relations
(causatively, figuratively or specifically): (cause
to, let, make to) cease, celebrate, cause (make) to
fail, keep (sabbath), suffer to be lacking, leave,
put away (down), (make
to) rest, rid,
still, take away.
The Greek
Pauo means STOP the speaking, singing, playing and
other activities defined as the laded burdens
(forms of songs)
Dwell in: quĭes , I.
Lit., rest, repose, cessation
from labor, from cares,
1. A quiet life, a keeping still,
neutrality between political parties:
“quietem capere,” to take repose,
id. B. G. 6, 27:
Don't eat up the homes of
widows: Scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites in Ezekiel
33 speakers, singers instrument players.
Stealing the church family so you can do "theater for
holy entertainment."
căpĭo A.
In gen., to take in hand, take hold of,
lay hold of, take, seize, grasp,
to take up arms, i. e. engage in war or battle
“cepit
manibus
tympanum,”
Cat. 6, 3, 8:
captivus, a prisoner, captive: b.
To win, captivate, charm,
allure, enchain, enslave, fascinate.
Steal one's inheritance h2490 Chalal "play the
flute, steal one's inheritance, pollute, prostitute.
“carmine formosae,
pretio
capiuntur
avarae,
carmena tune,
song, air, lay, strain,
note, sound, both vocal and
instrumental
Apollinem [Abaddon,
Apollyon] concordant
carmina
nervis,”5.
A magic formula, an incantation:
“dulcedine vocis,”
Ov. M. 1, 709;
[Pan the god was captivated by the reed or panpipe]
Cic.
Deiot. 13.38 He, considering these things,
and reflecting on them day and night, is so far from
feeling resentment against you, (for he would not only
be ungrateful, but even mad to do so,) that he
attributes the whole of the tranquillity and quiet of
his old age which he enjoys to your clemency.
fundāmentum futuri oratoris,” id. ib. 1, 4, 5;
ground work, basis,
“narratio est quaedam quasi sedes et fundamentum constituendae fidei,”
“disciplina nixa fundamento veritatis,
Jesus Christ died to give us
Another Rest Day: no one worshipped on the REST
day: they RESTED.
Isaiah
58:13 If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath,
from doing thy
pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath
a delight,
the holy of the LORD,
honourable; and shalt honour him,
not doing thine own
ways,
nor finding
thine own pleasure,
nor speaking
thine own words:
For if Jesus
had given them rest,
..........then would he not afterward
have spoken of another day. Heb 4:8
The hard bondage as the Servicie of the Levites.
Organon , to, ( [ergon, erdô] ) I.
an implement, instrument, engine
of any kind (mostly post-Aug.), Col. 3, 13, 12.--Of
military or architectonic engines )
Ergon
[Ergô] I.work,
1. in Il. mostly of deeds of
war, polemę ďaerga, 3.a
hard piece of work, a hard
task, Il.: also, a shocking deed
or act,
Polemeios:
warlike, aoida war-note,
of the trumpet, B.17.4
aoid-ę
5. = eppsdę, spell, incantation
A.
instrument, implement, tool, for making
or doing a thing
3.musical instrument,
Pauo
1. to make to cease or desist
2. to restrain a thing or person from
something
3. to cease, to leave off
4. have got release from sin
1. no longer stirred by its incitements
and seductions
The rest Jesus
came to give us is:
Anapauo (g373) an-up-ow'-o;
from 303 and 3973; (reflex.) to repose (lit. or fig.
[be exempt], remain); by impl. to refresh: - take
ease, refresh, (give, take) rest.
Ana: each ad
every one must STOP it all. Jesus invites us to
come "learn of me." You simply cannot be a
Christian or a baptized believer and engage in
ritualistic worship in the presence of God in
Christ.
It is important
that the rest has connections to STOPPING the arosal
of anxiety through ANY ceremony which is peddled as
having a spiritual effect over God or mankind!
pauô, bring to an end, stop or silence by death, take one's
rest, cease, have done, of one singing or speaking.
Pauo means stop
the polemos or battle, fight, war:
stop levying
war against another, anaireisthai or airô egeirein, kathistanai,
epagein to begin a war; p. poieisthai to make
war, -- opp. to p. anapauein, kataluesthai to put an
end to it, make peace, all in attic
The singing which
is to PAUSE to give rest is b. mostly of things,
make an end of, stop, abate
Pauo means: STOP
the: melôid-ia , hę, singing, chanting,
II. chant, choral song, melôidias poiętęs, lullaby, generally, musis
Pauo means: Stop
the pain of:
aoidę [aeidô]
1. song, a singing,
whether the art of song, Hom.; or the act of singing, song, Il.
2. the thing sung, a
song, Hom., etc.
3. the subject of
song, Od.
SEE
WHY PERFORMANCE MUSIC WAS/IS CALLED HERESY--SELF
PLEASURE
IS
THAT TOO HARD TO UNDERSTAND: IT IS A MESSAGE
FROM CHRIST?
The NACC has
matched Rick Atchley as PRO INSTRUMENTALIST with
Bob Russell as PRO INSTRUMENTALISTS so
guess which side wins.
It is NOT a fact that at the time the
Reformed Baptists and Alexander Campbell held any
Biblical doctrine in common with the Disciples of
Christ-Christians. It is a twisting of history
for evil purposes that the NACC and a few
always-instrumental preachers getting paid by a Church
of Christ claim that Churches of Christ caused a
sectarian division by leaving the Disciples of Christ.
THERE WAS
NEVER ANY UNITY BETWEEN THE CHRISTIANS AND
REFORMED BAPTISTS
1831 DISCUSSION OF UNITY
http://www.pineycom.com/Barton.W.Stone.Alexander.Campbell.Union.html
This is the "pre fabled union" in 1831: the
denial of any kind of "union" in the Lunenburg quote
was in 1837. Without passing judgment one
way or another, the Reformers saw the Christians as just
another denomination, and saw Barton W. Stone bent
on forming a NEW INCLUSIVE denomination.
Garrison proposed to include ALL OF
CHRISTENDOM. That is why the Disciples have reached
a dead end. Theologians have a problem
recognizing irony by Campbell or Paul
For our part, we might be honored much by a union
formal and public,
with a society so
large and so respectable as the Christian
denomination;
but if our union
with them, though so advantageous to us,
would merge
"the ancient gospel and ancient order of things"
in the long vexed
question of simple anti-trinitarianism, anti-creedism,
or anti-sectarianism,
I should be ashamed
of myself in the presence of him whose
"well done, good and faithful
servant," is worth the universe to me.
We all could have had honorable
alliances with honorable sectaries,
many years since, had this been
our object.
Does he mean a formal confederation of
all preachers and people called "Christians,"
with all those whom he calls Reformed Baptists?
(rather reforming, than reformed;) or
(as he represents them as prefering for a sectarianwhat
shall be the articles of confederation, and in
what form shall they be ministered or adopted?
Shall it be in one general convention of messengers from
all the societies of "christians" and "disciples," or
one general assembly of the whole aggregate of both
people? Shall the articles of agreement be drawn up in
writing like the articles of the "General Union" amongst
the different sects of Baptists in Kentucky? purpose the
name) disciples. If so,
We
discover, or think we discover, a squinting at
some sort of precedency or priority in the
claims of the writer of the above article, which are
perhaps only in appearance, and not in reality; but if
in appearance only, he will prevent us or any reader
from concluding unfavorably by
explaining himself more in detail than he has done.
He says, "The
reformed Baptists have received the doctrine taught by
us many years ago." "For nearly thirty years ago we
taught," &c. &c. From what source or
principle these sayings proceeded, we do not pronounce
sentence; but if they are mere words of course, and he
intended to plead nothing from them, we would suggest
the propriety of qualifying them in such a way as to
prevent mistake.
I am,
as at present advised, far from thinking that
the present advocates of reformation are only
pleading, or at all pleading, for what was plead in
Kentucky thirty years ago, after the dissolution
of the Springfield Presbytery. If such
be the conceptions of brother Stone, I am greatly
mistaken. That he, with others, did at that time oppose
authoritative creeds, and some articles
in them as terms of communion, and some other
abuses, we are not uninformed; but so did some others
who set out with him.
Our eagle-eyed
opponents plainly see the difference between
the radical and differential attributes of this reformation,
which they ignorantly call a
deformation, and any other cause,
however unpopular, plead in the land.
"The
Christians" in some places, nay, in many places, are
quite respectable in the eyes of those who contemn
"the disciples" as unfit for good society.
And I think the amiable editor of the Christian
Messenger himself told me last winter,
that even he
and some of his brethren were considered by the
orthodox as degrading themselves because
they associated with us most "unworthy
disciples?'
Indeed,
it was no mean proof of his christian spirit to
see him so condescending to persons of such low
degree in the estimation of the noble
christians of the land. His willingness to fraternize
with us in despite of the odium
theologicum attached to our ancient
gospel, I must ever regard as an additional
proof of his unfeigned regard to the authority of
Jesus as Lord, and his love to all them who esteem
the reproach of the Messiah greater riches than all
the treasures of Egypt.
Historians should
understand the difference between Mythological History
and True History.
Among the Greeks it was widely taught that rhetoricians,
poets and music must not be permitted to write about true
history. It was ok to lie about history when entertaining
(only) but never in the schools or called assemblies
(ekklesia).
THE
1832 UNITY MEETING J.F.BURNETT
Stone and the Disciples of Christ (Reformers then)
Morrill, in "History of the
Christian Denomination," says: [6]
"The
'union' itself was consummated on New Year's day, 1832, in Hill
Street Christian Church, at Lexington,
Kentucky, where representatives of both parties
pledged themselves 'to one another before God, to abandon
all speculation, especially on the Trinity, and kindred
subjects, and to be content with the plain
declaration of Scripture on those subjects on
which there had been so much worse than useless
controversy.'
The
plain meaning is that they found common ground to
occupy, threw away their divisive teachings and opinions,
and acted as one. The men who at Lexington
pledged themselves there and then gave one another
the hand of fellowship,
speaking
for themselves, and the churches
they came from,
but not for all the churches or the
denominations in Kentucky or the United States.
There
was no voting, and no attempt at formal union, but
merely a 'flowing together' of those like-minded. In
token of that union Elder John Smith, of the
Disciples of Christ, and Elder John Rogers, of the Christians,
'were appointed evangelists by the churches' to
promote that simple unsectarian Christian work,
which was adhered to by thousands; and Stone took
Elder J. T. Johnson, a Disciple, as co-editor of The
Christian Messenger.
"This
'union' did not change the status of any name or
church or minister or piece of property.
At a later time Campbell made some public invidious
remarks about the Christians, and
it began to be claimed that they had joined or
united with the Disciples. John [7] Rogers says
on this point:
'No
one ever thought (at the first) that the Reformers,
so-called, had come over to us, or that
we had gone over to them; that they were required
to relinquish their opinions, or we ours.
We
found ourselves contending for the same great
principles, and we resolved to unite our energies
to harmonize the church and save the world.
Such are the simple facts in the case."
The Christian Messenger (1832) says:
"It
is common for the Christians to say, the Reformers
have joined us--and no less common is it for
the Reformers to say, the Christians have joined us.
One
will say, the Christians have given up all
their former opinions of many doctrines, and have
received ours; another will say, the Reformers
have relinquished their views on many points, and
embraced ours.
These
things are doing mischief to the
cause of Christian union, and well calculated to
excite jealousy, and to give offense. They can do no
good--in fact they are not true. We have met
together on the Bible, being drawn together there by
the cords of truth--we agreed to walk together
according to this rule, and to be united by the
spirit of truth.
Neither
the Christians nor Reformers
professed to give up any sentiments or opinions
previous to our union, nor were any required to
be given up in order to effect it. We all determined
to learn of Jesus, and to
speak and do whatsoever He says to us in His
Word. We all profess to be [8] called
Christians, being the followers and disciples of
Jesus."
The
Campbells and most people at that time defined church
as a Society for study of the Word:
- Church
as defined by Christ in the wilderness and as
Ekklesia or Synagogue was A School of Christ.
- Worship
was
reading and musing the Word as is clearly defined by
Paul, Peter and the pre-Constantine periood were
singing as an ACT was imposed in c 373 and split the
west church from the east.
Any
additions would, as definitons demand, mark the imposers
as heretics or sectarians.
1834 In The Christian
Messenger for November, 1834, is quoted an article
from the Millennial Harbinger (Campbell's paper)
as follows:
"Or
does he (Stone) think that one or two individuals,
of and for themselves, should propose and
effect a formal union among the
hundred of congregations scattered
over this continent, called Christians or Disciples, without calling
upon the different congregations to express an opinion
or a wish upon the subject?
We
discover, or think we discover, a squinting at
[14] some sort of precedency or priority in the
claims of the writer of the above article," etc.
It is well known that
Mr. Campbell insisted upon immersion before
believers were received into fellowship, to which Stone
answered:
"We cannot, with our present views, unite on the
opinions that unimmersed persons cannot
receive remission of sins."
And though later on he came to believe in
immersion in water for the remission of sins, there is
no evidence that he ever made it a test of fellowship,
without which he could not have been a member
of the Disciples of Christ.
1837
Jenning, Walter W., Origin
and Early History of the Disciples of Christ, p. 196,
Standard proves that deserting to the Reformers is NOT a
unity movement.
Although
union was not so easily brought about elsewhere as in
Kentucky, thousands of ''Christians" did join
the Reformers. After referring to the union
effected by Stone in Jacksonville, M. T. Morrill, the
leading historian of the Christian Connection, made
the following admission:
"Then
followed a wave of ' Campbellism '
that swept the Christians off their feet, and
aggregated about eight thousand accessions to the
Disciples. No Christian churches long survived in
Tennessee, their cause was ruined in Kentucky
and never has regained its former strength or
prestige. Of the Southern Ohio Christians a majority
of the preachers embraced Campbeism prior to 1837,
and only about one thousand church members remained. A
man named C. A. Eastman, traveling through Indiana
about 1846, reported that, 'In many places they [the
Christians] have amalgamated with the Disciples,
and are known only as the same people.' Several years
later it was reported that on Stone's account conferences
of the Christians had been dissolved and
churches disbanded, and the people had
become amalgamated with the Disciples."
The
Statement: "The Stone-Campbell Movement" is a big
fat lie. Before the forced introduction of the
organ (only the organ, we promise) it would be
possible to attend most of the groups on the frontier.
H. Leo Boles said that such fraternal gatherings were
possible until the Disciples got enmeshed with the
Millerites and decided that THEY had to organize and
go to Jerusalem and SAVE all of the Jews.
THE BIG SPLIT OCCURRED WITHIN THE DISCIPLES OF
CHRIST WHILE THE CAMPBELLS WERE REFORMED BAPTISTS. They
never in recorded history conceived of instruments or
"machines for doing hard work" as being ethically
having anything to do with the Assembly of Christ.
Furthermore, the older ministers understood that
instruments were always connected with people telling
God that they would not listen to His Word.
Jesus identifies the Scribes and Pharisees as
hypocrites: in the Ezekiel 33 version by Christ He
names speakers, singers and instrument players. The
MEANING was that they would not pay any attention to
God. No one can dispute that preachers who make up
their own text and singers who sing their own songs
and instrumentalists historically known to "make the
lambs dumb before the slaugher" are telling Christ in
the Prophets and Apostles as the commanded teaching
resource are SHUTTING the mouth of the victim. That is
why musical religions was called "sacred violence."
|
William J. Nottingham Global
Ministries.
"My point
here is that the first missionary society
was the product of a long and intense process
which generated considerable soul-searching.
There were shared biblical principles and at
the same time fundamental differences in
theological opinion. Disagreement grew
concerning congregational ecclesiology,
commonality in mission with
other Christians,
and also perhaps communion of the
Holy Spirit.
This tension would
eventuate in separate bodies and
institutions of the 20th and 21st
centuries. [Disciples and NACC] A full
appreciation is probably hidden from us in the
distance from ante-bellum times. But the
nature of the Bible's authority,
the relatively new idea of the autonomy
of the local congregation,
and the centrality of millennialist
eschatology for these men and women,
with men doing most
of the writing which is left to us, seem to me
to be mysteries that can only be observed from
different angles and rarely entered into
existentially by later generations like our
own.
This is evidenced in
the decisions concerning missionaries growing
out of this fervor leading up to the
Cincinnati convention: Dr. and Mrs.
James T. Barclay were the first. It was in
their parlor in Washington, D.C., 1843, that
the congregation had been organized which
became the Vermont Avenue Church and in 1930
the National City Christian Church.
They went to
Jerusalem, not because of Acts 1:8
"beginning with Jerusalem" as a popular
Disciples legend has it, but because it
was taken for granted by Alexander
Campbell and his followers that the Jews
were to be converted before the return of
Christ.
That
was a false assumption: the Millenial
Harbinger's major thrust was not to SUPPORT
Millerism but to defeat it. Campbell
denies that Jesus will return to Canaan.
Because the Church of Christ did not believe in
William E. Miller [Ellen G. White]. You
will notice that it was the Disciples who were
tilted by Miller.
The title of
Campbell's journal proclaimed clearly the
eschatology of the pre-Civil War spirituality,
so neglected in our denominational memory by
scholars and theologians since then.
Notice
that Campbell spoke of THE PROTESTANT THEORY:
not his because he speaks where the Bible speaks
and insists on a NEW HEAVEN and a NEW EARTH and
that you could not convert people after the
literal earth was burned up.
In the Millennial
Harbinger of 1841,
we read in what is called The Protestant Theory:
"The Millennium, so far as the
triumphs of Christianity is concerned, will
be a state of greatly enlarged and
continuous prosperity, in which the Lord
will be exalted and his divine spirit
enjoyed in an unprecedented measure. All the
conditions of society will be vastly
improved; wars shall cease, and peace and
good will among men will generally abound.
The Jews will be converted, and the fullness
of the Gentiles will be brought into the
kingdom of the Messiah."
The founding
of the American Christian Missionary
Society cannot be separated from the millennialist
eschatology of the period
See
Alexander Campbell on the Second Coming to
prove that you never believe "the doctors of
the Law." This takes careful
reading to grasp that Campbell REPUDIATES any
speculation.
The Disciples
followed the Millerites: not Campbell.
nor from the
pragmatism which required a foreign
dimension to keep pace with other
denominations or to outgrow them! D.S.
Burnet's book The Jerusalem Mission and Dr.
Barclay's book The City of the Great King
make this clear, along with speeches and
articles by various leaders like Isaac
Errett. Barclay wrote in a journal The
Christian Age:
"The
ACMS...resolved...
to make the first offer of
salvation to Israel. . .
for the salvation of the Jews...
for upon the conversion and
resumption of Israel
....rested the possibility of the return of
Jesus.
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What’s
your history in the Restoration Movement?
Rick Atchley: My
family was not from a particularly Christian background,
but I had a grandmother who had a stubborn old faith.
She’s the reason my father eventually came into the
church. As long as I knew, she attended an a cappella
church, but shortly before her death I found out her
family had attended a church of Christ where they
played the piano. When the preacher left they
hired a new preacher who preferred not
to use a piano, so they stopped using it and that’s how
I ended up in the a cappella wing!
If they STOPPED using the
piano it is not likely that he risked his job because
he PREFERRED a cappella. Congregational
singing was the WING of most groups prior to the Civil
war. Therefore, it was NOT a wing of the
Christian Church which did not begin to begin
until 1927 as the NACC.
It
is part of Rick Atchley's scholarly PERSUASION
arts which intends to DISSOCIATE people by making
them believe that "NO ONE BELIEVES THAT USING
MACHINES IS A SIN." That makes you fearful of
saying that Genesis to Revelation says that
instruments ARE the MARK of people who refuse to let
Jesus do the talking.
Rick Atchley: So
many of the battle lines drawn in the past have less to
do with serious scriptural study and more to do with
who trained you and what church you grew up in.
Wouldn't
it be lovely to match Rick Atchley with an Alexander Campbell. This
is another TRICK (sophistry) of persuasion
saying that NO ONE WHO REJECTS INSTRUMENTS HAD
DONE ANY SERIOUS BIBLE STUDY.
Those who IMPOSE
something not required to be School of the Prophets and
Apostles as the ONLY way to glorify or praise God in
Christ are by definition called HERETICS of
SECTARIANS. A heretic in Romans 15 is one who
creates SELF-pleasure or "creating mental excitement"
which declares war with "using one mind and one mouth to
speak that which is written for our LEARNING." A
"heretic" in Rick Atchley's PATTERNISM was the priest who
"lifted up the lamb to cut its throat" while the PARASITE
created the "laded burden" to take all of the fight out of
the innocent lambs. The only battle line drawn by
Churches of Christ began shortly before the birth of the
NACC. The Christian Standard had helped send an
evangelist to Tennessee pledged to 'Take Tennessee for the
Society and organ party within ten years."
The Church of Christ has existed and
recorded in all periods of history: they were too
Bible literate to ever think about making instrumental
noise when the CLAIM that they are assembling to Teach
what Jesus commanded or to be APOSTOLIC.
CHURCHES of Christ have never BATTLED or drawn lines:
everyone could and did attend the local "School of
Christ" without being deliberately offended by people
who thought that what THEY had to say or sing was more
important than obeying the command to the elders to
"teach that which has been taught." The only battles
happens when people lie, cheat and steal the church
houses of widows and working people to, as they boast,
turn it into A THEATER FOR HOLY ENTERTAINMENT.
Atchley says that you could always hear the youth
group JUST ROCKING.
The Battle lines over music happened
because of musical idolatry at Mount Sinai. The
Jacob-cursed and God-abandoned Levites executed 3000
of the "brethren" because of this idolatry. The
Spirit OF Christ made it a death offense for any godly
person who came near any of the sacrificial system.
The Godly people were quarantined to their idolated
towns and most never went to Jerusalem. These
isolated towns attended the Qahal, synagogue, ekklesia
or Church of Christ in the Wilderness.
Consistent with the teachings of the Campbells (not
the Stoneites) they assembled only to hear the Word of
God READ by a leader of the isolated unit. God
OUTLAWED vocal or instrumental rejoicing.
At Mount Sinai after
the nation refused to hear the voice of God and demanded
a human mediator, they immediately fell into musical
idolatry of the Egyptian (etal) trinity. The Levites
volunteered to slaughter 3,000 of the offenders
so it is no surprise that the "eagles" use the
Levites as their authority for "worship leaders." In
fact, they have lost all options.
Luke 16:29
Abraham saith unto him,
They have Moses
and the prophets; let them hear them.
Luke 16:30 And he said, Nay, father Abraham:
but if one went
unto them from the dead, they will repent.
Luke 16:31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses
and the prophets,
neither will they
be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.
Moses promised another
"prophet" like him as our last warning:
1Corinthians
10:6 Now these things were our EXAMPLES
(pattern],
to the
intent we should not lust after evil things, as they
also lusted.
1Corinthians 10:7 Neither be ye idolaters, as
were some of them; as it is written,
The people sat
down to eat and drink, and rose up
to play.
Paizō
5. play amorously,
“pros allēlous”
"The
triumphal
hymn of Moses had unquestionably a religious character
about it; but the employment of music
in religious services, though
idolatrous, is more distinctly marked in the festivities which attended the
erection of the golden calf." (Smith's Bible
Dictionary, Music, p. 589).
Rick Atchley uses as PATTERNISM the
Goat Burning of Hezekiah's plague-stopping exorcism
but he missed that the actual sounding was clearly by
THE COMMAND OF DAVID the King. So here is the
problem.
- Rick Atchley gets authority to
deliberately sow discord for his own agenda by
saying that God "commanded instrumental praise" and
included the intimidation that "we had better not
disobey."
- His proof text proves that DAVID
commanded the military Levites and not God. Christ
in the prophets says that God did not command
sacrifices or burnt offerings.
- In Jeremiah
23 the Spirit OF Christ says that is DESPISING
the Word of God which is blasphemy.
- As there was no redemption for the
musical idolatry at Mount Sinai, there can be no
redemption for blaspheming The Holy Spirit of
Christ.
Using one statement in
2 Chronicles 29 and the Temple dedication ritual with
120 ram's horns all blowing "one note" as God speaking
to and through them:
1. David Faust was sent to the once-Christian
Colleges flying the "unity" flag but prepared with a
"white paper" promoting unity by causing peaceable
churches of Christ to sow discord and add instruments
SO THAT we can be friends.
I . In the Old Testament the Lord didn't
merely "permit" the use of musical instruments as aids
to worship.
He commanded
their use.
2. In the old Testament the Lord didn't merely
"permit' the use of musical instruments as aids to
worship.
He blessed
their use.
3. Christ in
the Prophets said of the lying pen of the Scribes
(rhetoricians, singers, instrument players) Jesus called
hypocrites: Click
for Jeremiah 7 and why Disciples never try
to do a legalistic end run around the Word of God.
Jeremiah
7:4 Trust ye not in lying
words, saying,
The temple of
the Lord, The temple of the
Lord,
The temple of
the Lord, are these.
Jeremiah
7:4 Trust ye not in lying words, saying,
The temple of
the Lord, The temple of the
Lord,
The temple of
the Lord, are these.
Thus
saith the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel;
Put
your
burnt offerings unto your sacrifices, and eat
flesh. Jeremiah 7:21
> For I spake NOT unto your fathers,
nor commanded them
in the
day that I brought them out of the land of Egypt,
concerning burnt offerings or sacrifices: Jeremiah
7:22
> But this thing commanded I
them, saying,
Obey my voice,
and I will be your God, and ye shall be my people:
(CENI)
and walk ye in
all the ways that I have commanded you, (CENI)
that it may be
well unto you. Jeremiah 7:23
Jer 23:17 They say still unto
them that despise me,
The Lord hath said, Ye shall have
peace;
and they say unto every one that walketh
after the imagination of his own heart,
No evil shall come upon you. "You
can SOW discord and steal from the owners"
Despise tthe Word of God of God and using your own words
is:
Blasphēm-eō , pf.
2. speak ill
or to the prejudice of one , slander,
“peri tēs emēs diatribēs” Isoc.15.2,
cf. D.l.c., ib.82; “b. kata tinos” Isoc.12.65,
cf. Arist.Fr.44;
“hosa eis hēmas eblasphēmēsan” D.51.3;
“b. tina” Babr.71.6, Ev.Luc.23.39,
etc.: abs., Phld.Lib.p.8
O.:—Pass., to have evil spoken of one, “beblasphēmēmenous” Id.Vit.p.12 J., cf. 1 Ep.Cor.10.30.
3. speak
impiously or irreverently of God, blaspheme,
“eis ton Kurion” LXX Da.3.29(96);
“eis to pneuma to hagion” Ev.Marc.3.29;
eis ta theia Vett. Val.58.12;
“tous theous” Id.67.20:
abs., LXX 2 Ma.10.34,
al., Ev.Matt.9.3.
4. Therefore, David Faust is
defined by the Spirit OF Christ as blaspheming.
Would
The Hills be considered an a cappella church of Christ
or would you simply say it’s a Restoration Movement
church?
Rick
Atchley: The
second. We call ourselves a “both/and” church,
instead of “either/or.” You’ll see on our website we
offer two worship options, but most of our services
NOW
use instrumental music. We also have one satellite
campus that is completely instrumental
and we’ll launch another campus this summer that will be
completely instrumental.
John
Calvin called for a Restoration of the Church of
Christ.
This meant removing all of the superstitions which
had been added over the years. Restoration meant to
restore the BIBLE as the authority for faith and
practice. That excluded the use of the
Instrument which the Catholics say was added because it was
"common to all pagan cults." The
Stoneites did not call for any RESTORATION but
rather that UNITY was the only requirement
which excluded teaching doctrine: that which
Jesus commanded to be taught. We quoted
Campbell above to say:
Our eagle-eyed
opponents plainly see the difference between
the radical and differential
attributes of this reformation, which they ignorantly call a
deformation, and any other cause,
however unpopular, plead in the land.
"The
Christians" in some places, nay, in many places, are
quite respectable in the eyes of those who contemn
"the disciples" as unfit for good society.
And I think the amiable editor of the Christian
Messenger himself told me last winter,
that even he and
some of his brethren were considered by the orthodox
as degrading themselves because they associated
with us most "unworthy disciples?'
All of those attacking Churches of Christ despise and repudiate the
very concept of RESTORATIONISM. Therefore, Rick
Atchely rejects the CENI
and uses God's
radical repudiation of the Levites by
turning them over to worship the
starry host as the CENI to impose this
instrumental soothsaying or exorcism
into the School of the Word.
The half of Rick's congregation fled
the property they paid for and the friends and family
they were forced into conflict with by the
presumptious pattern. It seems logical that
after a period of time ALL of the owners were forced
to flee. The BOTH/AND wackoism SOWED DISCORD
among those who knew that instrumental noise was not
part of their Bible WORD.
Therefore, those who did not accept the invitation to
"get over it or get out" were not both/and but were
convinced by the long list of false "proof texts" that
it was ACCEPTABLE to sow discord and take over other
people's property and push them out in the cold.
The PATTERN of the Purpose Driven is to
collect the resources of a faithful Church of Christ
and then OUT the
hidden agenda to reject the Words of Christ for the
Words and music of a Levitical Warrior Class.
That INVESTMENT in the few cases was intentionally
collected intending to establish INSTRUMENTAL
institutions. One doubts that the godly people
of the Christian Church agree with this and probably do not
know about it.
Both/and sounds a bit like the
STRONG DELUSIONS God loves to send on
people who despise His Word. A church is an
ekklesia-synagogue: both in the Greek civil sense and
therefore the Christian assembly WORSHIP is defined
solely in terms of "giving attendance to the reading
of the Word of Christ." History note the
obscenity of bringing any kind of rhetoric or music
into the assemblies. Neither in the civil or
religious sense did any LEADER have the authority to
decide what would be discussed to the point of a
"syllogism" or bringing the thoughts of everyone to
agree on the text IMPOSED by a higher authority. A
Church of Christ is defined from the wilderness, by
the practices of Jesus, by His command for the
synagogue-assembly, by the epistles EXCLUSION of
anything which would hinder the INCLUSIVE role of
"using one mind and one mouth to teach that which is
written for our LEARNING." A Bible Student would
understand that that all of the hypocritic or
performing arts and crafts are EXCLUDED
specifically. The problem with strong delusions
is that people are, as after the instrumental idolatry
at Mount Sinai, made blind and deaf and they cannot
even define words or quote a passage in context.
It
sounds like your affiliation isn’t really defined by
music.
Rick
Atchley: Our
sense of network and fellowship is more
with the a cappella churches than the Christian
churches. Our staff went to colleges founded by the
a cappella churches, and the great majority of our
church members with a Restoration background were
members of a cappella churches. That’s really the pond
we swim in, but we are quick to acknowledge our
kinship with Christian churches.
And they were all trained where the
Church of Christ influence
has been displaced by denominational theologians
most with a few bitter words for anything Churches
of Christ have taught for these 2,000 years.
The Christian churches had their roots
through OKelly to the
Methodists-Anglicans-Catholics. Churches of Christ
continued the CALL and practice of John Calvin
who proposed a Restoration of the Church of
Christ. The Stoneite Restoration roots denied
the atonement, denied that baptism was necessary, made
the name of
"Christian church" a test of any union, and adopted
the practices of the Shouting Methodists
as an ACT of liturgy as a spill over form Cane
Ridge. The Disciples were premillenniel and
followed Miller in organizing a society to go to
Jerusalem to save all of the Jews to ENABLE the return
of Jesus. They insisted on a denominational
organizational structure: Alexander Campbell denied
the possibility because he claimed that Stone's
pattern would demand a written creed. The
Christian Churches claim ownership of using
"tradition or church councils, personal preferences
and the Law of Silence as ways the Scriptures
teach. The NACC in part rejected in
1927 what Churches of Christ had NEVER united
with.
See
the Disciples Pattern still defended by Rick
Atchley insisting that where Christ was
not foresighted enough to understand OUR culture then
HE has the sole authority to use his boasted of
"Persuasion" to strong-arm everyone else into
submitting.
How
did you make the transition to worship services with
instrumental music?
You have to be under strong delusions
to speak of Worship Services with any kind of
music. All of Scripture and the Campbell's view
of restoration was informed by the Spirit OF Christ in
the Prophets and His making these prophecies more
certain to the Apostles.
The
Kingdom does not come with Religious observations.
Who said that? Jesus said that even for the Church in
the wilderness
Again,
Christ in the wilderness defined the Church as
a set-time-place to READ the Word of God and
discuss it: even the Lord's Supper is a teaching or
educating event. Anything performed a religious
observation or ritual is a sign of a DEAD BODY: that's
when the ministry team will pick your bones and pick
the purse of the widows.Latin:
Lk 17:20 And when he
was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom
of God should come, he answered them and said, The
kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
Observātiō
ōnis, observo, a
watching, observance, investigation: observationes animadvertebant, your
searches for evidence: siderum.— Circumspection,
care, exactness: summa in bello movendo.
Religious
observations are carefully crafted to take control
of all of one's attention. That is the worship
concept with is to be directed only to God.
Tendo: In the pagan
religions they gave lots of attention to tuning or
playing their musical instruments: cornu,” “barbiton,” to tune,
“tympana tenta tonant palmis, stretching out their
bow strings. To shoot, to hurl.
(b). To exert
one's self, to strive, endeavor
(mostly poet.
b.
n partic., to exert one's
self in opposition, to strive, try,
endeavor, contend “adversus, etc.,” id. 34, 34, 1:
“contra,
Lucr. 6, 1195:
“tormento citharāque tensior,” [Tendo]
2.
In partic.: “nervum tendere, in mal. part.,” Auct. Priap. 70; cf. Mart. 11, 60, 3.—Hence, tentus,
a lecherous man,
ēlŏquĭum ,
ii, n. id..
I. In
Aug. poets, and their imitators among
prose writers, for eloquentia, eloquence,
* Hor. A. P.
217; * Verg. A.
11, 383; Ov. Tr. 1,
9, 46; id. M. 13,
63; 322
al.; Vell.
2, 68, 1; Plin. 11,
17, 18, § 55.—
Lucr.
6.1195 Signs of death
from lack of water:
The heralds of old death. And in those
months
Was given many another sign of death:
The intellect of mind by sorrow
and dread
Deranged, the sad brow, the countenance
Fierce
and delirious, the tormented ears
Beset with ringings, the breath quick and
short
Chorda
II. Catgut, a string (of
a musical instrument),
B. A
rope, cord, for binding a slave
: “tunc tibi actutum chorda tenditur,”
Plaut. Most. 3,
2, 55
TRANIO
I will inform you. My master has arrived from
abroad.
SIMO
In that case, the cord will be stretched
for you; thence to the place where iron
fetters clink; after that, straight to the
cross.
Ringing: Cĭthăra , ae,
f., = kithara, I. the
cithara, cithern, guitar, or
lute.
II. Meton., the music of
the cithara, or, in gen., of a stringed
instrument, the art of playing on
the cithara
THE CHRISTIAN
ANTITHESIS:
1Timothy 4:13 Till I come, give attendance [adtende] to reading,
to exhortation, to doctrine.
1Timothy 4:14 Neglect not the gift that is in thee,
which was given thee
by prophecy, [teaching]
with the laying on
of the hands of the presbytery.
1Timothy 4:15 Meditate upon these things; give
thyself wholly to them;
that thy profiting
may appear to all.
3191. meletao,
mel-et-ah´-o; from a presumed derivative of 3199; to
take care of, i.e. (by implication) revolve in
the mind: — imagine, (pre-)meditate.
Because never in recorded
history did PSALLO relate in any sense to MUSICAL MELODY
Paul intends that we SPEAK the Word of God and sing and
meditate on the Word of God.
Melet-aō , “tauta meleta” 1 Ep.Ti.4.15;
esp. practise speaking, con over a
speech in one's mind, “logaria dustēna meletēsas” D.19.255; “apologian” Id.46.1;
also, deliver, declaim (cf. 11.5 b), “logous”
Logos
2. generally, account, reckoning,
mē phunai ton hapanta nika l. excel
Opposite. ek tēs epagōgēs
Opposite. muthos, as history
to legend, Ti.26e;
“poiein muthous all' ou logous”
Opposite. epilogos,
Opposite. prooimion,
Opposite. phōnē, Arist.Pol.1253a14;
prose, Opposite. poiēsis,
Opposite. emmetra, ib.1450b15
(
l. pezoi, Opposite. poiētikē, D.H.Comp.6;
Opposite. poiēmata, ib.15; “koina kai poiēmatōn kai logōn”
1Timothy 4:16 Take heed
unto thyself, and unto the doctrine; continue in
them: for in doing this thou shalt both save thyself, and
them that hear thee.
lectĭo , ōnis, f. lego.
I. A gathering, collecting.
II. A reading,
perusal; a reading out, reading aloud.
B. Transf.
(abstr. pro contr.), that which is read,
reading, text (post-class.)
“juris lectiones,” passages
of the laws,
Rick Atchley: Moving
from only a cappella to instrumental music is a
pretty huge learning curve. There are a lot of
issues involving sound, acoustics,
staging, and wiring, and I’m thankful we
had competent people who could handle those issues
without needing a lot of input from me. Because
we were a fairly large church, we had a talent
pool of musicians who were already here. For
the most part, we have been able to supply the
musicians necessary for our services from our own
members.
John uses the Greek TECHNE or craftsmen
to define these skills: He calls them along with the musical
performers SORCERERS. Rick Atchley intends to
use MECHANICAL means as PERSUASION and John and
Christ
(Isaiah
30) says that these will be
CAST ALIVE INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE.
Must
ye
always rejoice, and go into my holy places continually, as they that
keep a
feast?
and must ye go with a pipe, as those that rejoice
into the mountain of the Lord, to the God of
Israel Isaiah 30:29 LXX
Isa 30:30 And the Lord shall make
his glorious voice to be hearrd
and the wrath of his arm, to make
a display with wrath and of anger and devouring
flame:
he shall
lighten terribly, and his wrath shall be as water
and bionent hail.
Isa 30:31 For by the voice of the Lord the Assyrians
[in Jerusalem] shall be overcome,
even by the
stroke wherewtith he shall smit them.
Isa 3032 And is shall happen to him from every side,
that they from
whome their hope of assistance was,
in which he
trusted, themselves shall war against him in turn
with drums
and with harp.
For thou shalt be required before thy
time: has it been prepared for thee also to reign?
nay, God has prepared for thee a deep trench, wood piled fire and much
wood:
the wrath of the Lord shall be as
a trench kindled with sulphur. Isaiah 30:33 LXX
Sorry, but claiming that God in Christ
NEEDS human talent is called presumptious LEGALISM:
the Lucifer principle. Didn't God say that He
does not LIVE in houses built by human hands neither
is He WORSHIPPED by the works of human hands. How is
this theatrical MOVE ON which is defined as the
worship of the Babylon Mother of Harlots (Rev 17) using lusted after
fruits (same as in Amos) as speakers, singers,
instrument players and craftsmen NOT a fulfilment of
end-time prophecy. Craftsmen specificially identify THEATER
BUILDERS and STAGE MANAGERS.
2Thessalonians
2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren,
by the coming of
our Lord Jesus Christ,
and by our gathering
together unto him,
Episunagōgēs
had no praise service by direct command and minimal
reverence.
As the antithesis of
those who DO NOT want you to be saved:
2Thessalonians
2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be
troubled,
neither by spirit, nor
by word, [Logos
contains no rhetoric, poetry, music]
nor by letter as
from us,
as that the
day of Christ is at hand.
Sal-euō
, heartrending speech, waver, reel, cf. 12.31
(Phan.); huph'
hēdonēs
saleuomenē
korōnē
Sch.Arat.1009
hēdonē , Dor. hadona
(or in Trag. chorus hēdona
S.OT1339),
hē,
(hēdomai)
3. Pl., desires after
pleasure, pleasant lusts, X.Mem.1.2.23,
Ep.Tit.3.3,
al.
pros
hē.
legein
to speak so as to please another, dēmēgoreō dēmēgoros
II.to make popular speeches, to speak
rhetorically, use clap-trap
Aggelos , ho,
hē,
A.messenger, envoy
2.
generally, one that announces or tells,
e.g. of birds of augury, Il.24.292,296;
Mousōn aggelos, of a
poet, Thgn.769; “aggele
earos
. . khelidoi”=
the twittering of the swallow was prov. used of barbarous
tongues by the Greeks khelidonōn
mouseia
bowers that ring with poetasters' twitterings,
ib.93
(parodied from aēdonōn
mouseia
1Corinthians 13:1 Though I speak with the tongues
of men and of angels,
and have not charity, I am become as sounding
brass, or a tinkling cymbal.
La^l-eō , Mark of
the Locusts
III. of musical
sounds, “aulō [flute] laleō” Theoc.20.29;
of trees, v.supr.1.2; “di'aulou [flute] ē salpiggos l.”[trumpet]
Arist. Aud.801a29;
of Echo, magadin lalein sound the
magadis, [double
flute]
Bromious
A.sounding, “phormigx”
Pi.N.9.8;
noisy, boisterous, whence, II. Bromios
, ho,
as a name of Bacchus, 2. Adj. Bromios,
a,
on,
Bacchic, E.HF893
(lyr.), etc.; B.
kharis,
of the Dionysia, Ar.Nu.311: