Donnie Cruz Madison Church The Trinity Debunked

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Based on false teachings of the Madison Church of Christ. Jesus calls it blasphemy and John marks it as antichrist. People who are not DISCIPLES of Christ "who continue in my WORD", Collect all of the "spirit" words out of context and then follow the new theology of USING YOUR IMAGINATION to write a narrative more suitable to we "enlightened" theologians. "Theology" is a word devoting totally to the disciples of APOLLLYON-ABADDON.  Theology is equated to Mythology.  Jesus and Paul silences everyone so that Holy Scripture can be read without being judged. That demands that:

Preacher, like Apostle identifies an eye-- or ear-- witness. Conntinuing "Preacher" defines an EVANGELISTS who goes to teach the untaught the Gospel message.  God knew that there was no human who had any authority to speak on their own: Jesus identified those as "the sons of the Devil."

SPIRIT in conversations means God's BREATH. The statement is ALWAYS:  God puts His WORD into the MOUTH of a Moses, Elijah (the prophets) and for the last time the MAN Jesus of Nazareth. Jesus affirms that He speaks NO WORDS which He did not hear from the Father.

Is. 59:15 Yea, truth faileth;
        and he that departeth from evil maketh himself a prey:
         and the LORD saw it, and it displeased him that there was no judgment.
Is. 59:16 And he saw that there was NO MAN,
        and wondered that there was no intercessor:
        therefore his arm brought salvation unto him;
        and his righteousness, it sustained him.
Is. 59:17 For he put on righteousness as a breastplate,
        and an helmet of salvation upon his head;
        and he put on the garments of vengeance for clothing,
        and was clad with zeal as a cloke.
Is. 59:18 According to their deeds, accordingly he will repay,
         fury to his adversaries, recompence to his enemies;
        to the islands he will repay recompence.
Is. 59:19 So shall they fear the name of the LORD from the west,
        and his glory from the rising of the sun.
        When the enemy shall come in like a flood,
        the Spirit of the LORD shall lift up a standard against him.
Is. 59:20 And the Redeemer shall come to Zion,
        and unto them that turn from transgression in Jacob, saith the LORD.
Is. 59:21 As for me, this is MY COVENANT with them, saith the LORD;
        My SPIRIT that is upon thee,
        and my WORDS which I have put in thy MOUTH,
        shall not depart out of thy mouth,
        nor out of the mouth of thy seed,
        nor out of the mouth of thy seed’s seed,
        saith the LORD, from henceforth and for ever.

DONNIE CRUZ TRAINED AT LIPSCOMB UNIVERSITY HAS  PROVIDED ALL OF THE EVIDENCE TO PROVE THAT

1Tim. 2:3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;
1Tim. 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, [Kept Safe]
        and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

[Word, Logos, Regulative Principle, outlaws rhetoric, music or scenic activities intended to and DOES silence Jesus who teaches His tiny flock of lost spirits in silent and serect places]

1Tim. 2:5 For there is ONE GOD
        and one mediator
                [Jesus is Comforter, Intercessor in the STATE of Holy Spirit, never a god or person 1 John 2]
        between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
1Tim. 2:6 Who gave himself a ransom for all,
        to be testified in due time.

[Jesus' last will and testament or New Covenant is the only SPEAKING in His School]
1Pet. 4:11 If any man SPEAK,
        let him SPEAK as the ORACLES of God;
        if any man minister, let him do it as of the ability which God giveth:
        that God in all things may be glorified through Jesus Christ,
        to whom be praise and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

g3051.  logion, log´-ee-on; neuter of 3052; an utterance (of God): — oracle.
Logos, Word outlaws opinions, experiences, rhetoric, music or scenic performances
1 a priest or priestess acting as a medium through whom advice or prophecy was sought from the gods in classical antiquity.
The New Testament Greek phrase sometimes translated “oracles of God” is logion Theou (logion being the plural form of logos). “Words of God” is a good translation. The KJV, ESV, NASB, and some other versions put “oracles of God.” This is a fine translation, too, as long as we define oracle properly.

The Trinity results in people claiming that A spirit told them that their destructive agande was their COMMAND.

SPEAK: God commands the ONLY speaking role be HIS Logos
SPEAK: Which outlaws self-composed songs or sermons:

Laleo II.  allēlais laleousi teon gamon hai kuparissoi” of a pantomime,   talk, chat, prattle, chatter, opp. articulate speech, as of LOCUSTS, chirp, Theoc.5.34; mesēmbrias lalein tettix (sc. eimi), a very grasshopper to chirp at midday, Aristopho 10.6; “anthrōpinōs l.” Strato Com.1.46.

III.  of musical sounds, “aulō laleō” cogn., magadin lalein sound the magadis
   20 string harp; Played with finger: Psallo outlaws guitar picks, trumpets.
Plato calls them hoi Mousōn prophētai, Phdr.262d; but they also became a prov. for garrulity, “lalein tettix

Acts 7:38 This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sina, and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us:

1Tim. 2:7 Whereunto I am ordained a preacher, and an apostle, (I speak the truth in Christ, and lie not;) a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and verity.

CLICK: THE UNINFORMED TEACHING ABOUT GOD HAS LED MOST PEOPLE INTO APOSTASY.
CLICK: THE MAN-MADE DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY
CLICK: MORE MAN-MADE DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY
CLICK: TOPIC: IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST-A NAME ABOVE EVERY NAME
CLICK: ROMAN CATHOLICISM INVENTED THE ALWAYS-PAGAN TRINITY
CLICK: THE TRINITY PRODUCES MOTHER GODDESS WORSHIP: MUSICIAN ARE THE ABOMINATION.
CLICK: TRINITY DOGMA "THE HOLY SPIRIT" MISSING IN THE GREETING OF THE EPISTLES.
CLICK: REPLY HOLY SPIRIT "PERSON" MISSING IN FATHER-SON RELATIONSHIPS IN JOHN.
CLICK: REPLY: WHAT IS THE GIFT OF [ ] "HOLY SPIRIT" AFTER OBEDIENCE IN BAPTISM
CLICK: IS "GOD THE HOLY SPIRIT" FOUND IN SCRIPTURE? WE WAIT FOR AN ANSWER.

Donnie Cruz The Origin of the Trinity

Donnie Cruz: Bible Scholars letter to the Madison Elders taking the MARK..
That this movement's emphasis is to target "mega churches" like Madison -- "bait to be taken over by those who had rather capture than build"?...As we are already aware, there is "hysteria" taking place, even though by design the group of "seekers" is there to teach and make plan in such a way that change comes slowly.

This is Donnie Cruz's SUMMARY TABLES summarizing of about 22 years of dialog on Concerned Members Now Tapatalk

Feel free to comment: good, bad or ugly.
 
ADDITIONAL POSTS AT CONCERNED MEMBERS-TAPATALK.

CLICK: CARROLL.D.OSBURN ACU AGENDA TO DESTROY THE PATRIARCHY

CLICK: GODHEAD OR DIVINITY DOES NOT MEAN THAT THE MAN JESUS WAS GOD.

CLICK: DAVID WORSHIPED A SUN GOD: HE TRIES TO AWAKEN HIM WITH HIS HARP.

CLICK: GOD ACTIVELY AND PERMISSIVELY SENDS ANGELS-EVANGELISTIS-WINNOWING-REAPING MUSICIANS.

CLICK OFFSITE: THEY HAVE NO CHOICE: NEW HERMENEUTIC-STRONG DELUSIONS-LYING WONDERS

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DONNIE CRUZ'S TAPATALK: UNINFORMED
THE UNINFORMED TEACHING ABOUT GOD HAS LED MOST PEOPLE INTO APOSTASY.
JESUS CALLS IT "BLASPHEMY" AND JOHN SAYS THAT MARKS ANTICHRIST.


"Such a belief (in the Trinity: "God in Three Persons") has misled many Christians to the point that in praying to God the Father during the observance of the Lord's Supper, these words are uttered:

• God [our Father], we thank You for Your body (or ... for this bread which represents Your body)....
• God [our Father], we thank You for Your blood (or ... for this cup which represents Your blood)....

Did God the Father send Himself to earth or did the Father send His only begotten Son?  (John 3:16,17; I Cor. 1:9; Gal. 4:4)

Was God the Father crucified or was the man Jesus Christ crucified? (Mark 15:15-32)

The Trinity doctrine is misleading and confusing, and it is no excuse for mistaking Jesus Christ for God the Father, or vice versa.  Truth is that Jesus is the Son of God and that the Father is THE ONLY TRUE GOD (John 17:3).  Truth is that the Father is not only our God, but THAT THE FATHER is also THE GOD OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST (Eph. 1:17; Romans 15:6; 2 Cor. 1:3; Eph. 1:3).

The Man-Made Doctrine of the Trinity
 
The man-made doctrine of the Trinity deserves to be studied thoroughly and carefully.  Many professed Christians and religious groups have come to believe that the doctrine is scriptural just because the three entities (the Father, His Son and the [holy] Spirit "OF" God) are mentioned in the Bible.  Apparently this doctrine has evolved into the finalized concept that there is -- "God in Three Persons."

Throughout this thread, we will attempt to cover the following questions or subjects that need to be investigated or proven: 

• Are Catholics wrong in their belief in the Eucharist and transubstantiation?  Why does the priest have the power to transform the bread (wafer) into the literal body of Christ and the wine into the literal blood of Christ?  The participants are given the wafer, but only the priest drinks the wine -- why is that?
• Is it incorrect in the observance of the Lord's Supper to offer thanks to "God our Father" for the bread that "represents YOUR body" and for the cup that "represents YOUR blood (instead of Christ's)?
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• Since the Trinity doctrine teaches that Jesus the Son is God and that Mary is the mother of Jesus, is it true that "the Virgin Mary" is "the Mother of God"?

•  Is "God the Father" found in the Scripture? Of course, yes!!!

•  Is "God the Son" found in the Scripture? Where?  Let us know soon.
  John 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth [pistis to comply] on HIM that sent ME, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
  John 5:25 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live.
        GIVEN TO THE SON TO HAVE LIFE IN HIMSELF.
  John 5:27 And hath given him authority to execute judgment also,
        BECAUSE HE IS THE SON OF MAN
  John 5:28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming,
          in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
  John 5:29 And shall come forth;
          they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life;
           and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.
  John 5:30 I can of mine own self do nothing:
          as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just;
           because I seek not mine own will,
           but the will of the Father which hath sent me.
  
•  Is "God the Holy Spirit" found in the Scripture? Where?  Let us know soon.
•  What is the difference between the man-made belief of "God the Holy Spirit" and "the holy Spirit of God"?
•  Does Jesus Christ have a God? Yes!!!
•  Why is Jesus referred to as the Son of God but not as "Jesus is God"?
•  Why is Jesus referred to as the son of man but not as "Jesus is God"?
•  Jesus is the image of God.  Does that make Jesus God?
    God made Jesus both Lord and Christ 30 years after He CAME IN THE FLESH.
    Christ was then in the FORM OF GOD.
    forma , 3. A model after which any thing is made, a pattern, stamp,
    b. The grammatical form of a word: “utrum in secunda forma verbuM
  
•  Did Jesus (if God) resurrect himself from the dead?
•  Was it God his Father that resurrected Jesus from the dead?
•  If Jesus was God, why did he pray to God during his crucifixion?
•  In the book of John, it's all about the relationship between the Father and His Son Jesus Christ.  The Trinity's Holy Spirit as a "PERSON" is not involved in the communication between the Father and the Son.  Why is that?
•  Throughout the epistles (beginning with Romans), greetings to churches and individual Christians were coming only from the God the Father and His Son Jesus Christ.  What happened to greetings from the Holy Spirit "person"?
•  Why does Acts 2:38 say "be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ" but NOT "in the name of the Father, of the Son and of the Holy Spirit"?
•  Prove that the Holy Spirit is a person (aside from the translators making their executive decision or discretion to use "it" or "he" when a pronoun is needed.  (Oh, so translations were influenced by Trinitarian translators ... hmm)
•  The New Testament frequently mentions "the name of our Lord Jesus." Are you aware that the evolving "Catholic" Church in the early centuries changed the text in Matt. 28:19 from "...baptizing them in my name" to "...baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost" to fit or match the Trinity belief?
•  When comparing the 4 gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke, John) in reference to baptism, are you aware that the other 3 (Mark, Luke and John) all address baptism in the name of Jesus Christ?  But not Matthew!!! -- which is the source of the Trinity doctrine.
•  We're very familiar with the passage: "And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption" (Eph. 4:30, KJV).  Why does it not say, "And grieve not God the Holy Spirit"?  Do you see the difference?

The Man-Made Doctrine of the Trinity (more beliefs to investigate)

Genesis 1:1,26 and John 1:1-3,14 -- are these to be considered parallel passages with regard to God the Father and His Son Jesus Christ "in the beginning"?

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Throughout the Bible "the God" is mentioned hundreds of times, and it is commonly believed that it is in reference to "God the Father."  In John 1:1-2, however, God [ton theon  or "the god"] is differentiated from the Word [theos  or "god"] although they both were "in the beginning."  How do we explain? (Note: There are some 213 references to "the God" in the Old Testament; 40 references to "the God" in the New Testament.)

There are passages that support the truth that Christ is sitting "on the right hand of God"; how is this mysterious teaching explained that Jesus as "God" is sitting on the right hand of "God"?Donnie Cruz:  Trinity Debunked:  Jesus Christ Has a HEAD, a FATHER and a GOD

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From the Scripture ONLY (and notice the preposition "OF"; the possessive adjective/pronoun "MY"; the definite article "THE"; and the conjunction "AND"):

1. But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God. (I Cor. 11:3, KJV)
2. The God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which is blessed for evermore, knoweth that I lie not.  (II Cor. 11:31, KJV)
3. Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:  (Eph. 1:3, KJV)
4. One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.  (Eph. 4:6, KJV)
 
5. Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,  (I Peter 1:3, KJV)
 
6. Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.  (John 20:17, KJV)
 
7. And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? (Matt. 27:46, KJV)
 
8. And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? (Mark 15:34, KJV)

There are two references (a rare occurrence) throughout the Scripture that are important and foundational to supporters of the Trinity doctrine.  Why?  To them the three titles appear together as they try to prove their doctrine of three persons in one God.  They may argue that even a single reference in the Scripture should be sufficient in proving that a particular doctrine is true because it is a passage in the Bible.  But then if there are other references that do not affirm or support that particular text, what do we do?
 
I John 5:7—For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.  This passage is missing in the oldest Greek manuscripts of the book of I John.  If not, it is found in rare cases only around the 15^th century A.D.  It is the consensus among scholars that this involved a Latin corruption when included in the subsequent copies of the Greek manuscript.
 
Matthew 28:--[ 18] And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.  [19] Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:  [20] Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.  
 
There are many scholars that contend that Matthew 28:19 is spurious.  Eusebius, in the 4^th century, always cited this passage in his numerous writings as follows: “Go ye and make disciples of all the nations in my name, teaching them to observe all things, whatsoever I commanded you.”  Since the Trinity was invented by the Catholic Church while pagan influences were evident in the early centuries (and even now), it confesses to changing it.
 
A discussion of passages that are “spurious” may be a good idea as a separate topic or it may occur in posts later on.  For now, let’s consider some points or ideas that we may or may not have heard of before.
 
There is the point that the expression “in the name of” is singular.  This is correct, although it does not disprove the Trinity argument that there are three entities with titles that they consider “persons.”  Of course, that’s the Trinitarian’s way of thinking—that it’s not necessary to repeat the expression “in the name of” two more times.  Just why is “the Holy Spirit” a person, according to the Trinity doctrine?  That claim is not making sense.  Simply, the word “spirit” is a noun, and it means “power, wind, breath, or mind [of God].”  Yes, the word “spirit” is modified by the adjective “holy.”  The entity referred to as “the holy spirit” [only the English grammar would capitalize both words] does not have a name, unlike the Father, the only true and living God, and His Son Jesus.  “The Holy Spirit” is not a name!!!  Besides, the entire expression “in the name [of the 3 titles]” is missing in the original Greek manuscript.
 
In context, Matthew 28:18-20 is all about Jesus and the power given to him by his (and also our) God the Father (Ephesians 1:17).  Notice the words “I” and “me” in those verses.  It is all about the POWER or authority given to him.  Eusebius, uninfluenced by the Trinitarian philosophy, was correct in citing “in my name” in several writings.  He even quoted from the manuscripts “in my name” in the Council of Nicea when he was involved in the debates between Arias and the pagan view of Athanasius that became the Trinity doctrine.
 
There are parallel passages in the gospels that prove “in my name” as the accurate words by Jesus Christ—we are thankful that the Catholic Church did not change them—the other “Great Commission” passages:
 

• Mark 16:15-17 (KJV)—And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.  He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.  And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongue.

• Luke 24:47 (KJV)—And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name  among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

[More in the next post concerning Acts 2:38 (Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ) and several passages that specify “in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.”]

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TOPIC: IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST-A NAME ABOVE EVERY NAME

Philippians 2: [8] And being found in fashion as a man, he [Jesus Christ] humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.  [9] Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
 
Acts 4: [12] Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
 
In the name of Jesus Christ—that is the name above every name!!!  (Philippians 2:18).  The following passages support that proclamation: 

1. John 3[18] ... he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
2. Acts 3[6] ... in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth rise up and walk.
3. Acts 4[18] … and they called them, and commanded them not to speak at all nor teach in the name of Jesus.
4. Acts 5[40] ... they commanded that they should not speak in the name of Jesus....
5. Acts 9[27] ... he had preached boldly at Damascus in the name of Jesus.
6. Acts 9[29] … and he spake boldly in the name of the Lord Jesus....
7. Acts 16[18] … I command thee in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her.
8. 1Cor 5[4] … in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, ... with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ,
9. 1Cor 6[11] ... but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
10. Eph. 5[20] ... unto God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ;
11. Col. 3[17] ... do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him.
12. 2 Thess. 3[6] ... in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from....
13. Jas. 5[10] ... who have spoken in the name of the Lord...
14. Jas. 5[14] ... anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:

Great Commission: “In my name”—that is the claim of Jesus Christ in the Great Commission passages.  There are 3 such passages in the gospels.  Please note that if it weren’t for the Latin corruption involved in the text in Matthew 28, all the passages would be stating the exact words of Jesus or Luke speaking on his behalf uniformly—“in my name.”

1. Matt. 28:18-20 -- And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.  Go ye and make disciples of all the nations in my name, teaching them to observe all things, whatsoever I commanded you.
   As antithesis of all pagan triads of father, mother (spirit) and son, all of these authorities were given to Jesus who articulated how He was the IMAGE of Father (teacher), spirit or BREATH and articulated Word by Jesus
   
2. Mark 16:15-17 (KJV)—And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.  He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.  And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongue.
3. Luke 24:47 (KJV)—And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

Conversion:  In the name of Jesus Christ.  When the remission of sins is the result in the salvation process, the required baptism is not in the name of God the Father; it is not in the name of the holy Spirit of God, but it is in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ!!!

1. Acts 2[38] … Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
2. Acts 8:12 … But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God,  and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women.
3. Acts 8[16] ... they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
4. Acts 10[48] … And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord.
5. Acts 19[5] … When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
6. Acts 22:16 ....be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on the name of the Lord.”
7. Romans 6:3 ... that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ ...
8. Romans 6:3 ... were baptized into his death?”
9. Galatians 3:27 … For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ

There’s much evidence that when Christ was given all authority and power by his God (Eph. 1:17) and Father, he commissioned his followers to go and make disciples of all the nations baptizing them “in my name.”

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Note Donnie's red table below. All "trinities" including the Catholic and defacto the new hermeneutics.
Pagans etal had a family of gods: father, mother (spirit) and little naughty son.

Jeanene.P.Reese.Theology.of.Women.Teachers.html
Jeanene with authority promised to stuff the brotherhood with female preachers making it difficult to resist. She has had little success. Jeanene claims Mother Earth as goddess claiming that Adam servered HER.

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                             WOMEN WORSHIP TEAMS IN THEIR HOLY PLACE RECORDED AS ABOMINABLE.
                             THE SOUNDS-LIKE TRUMPETS MAY HAVE SOUNDED FOR THE RESCUED LOST SPIRITS.

ROMAN CATHOLICISM INVENTED THE ALWAYS-PAGAN TRINITY

3:40 AM - Jun 20

• Since the Trinity doctrine teaches that Jesus the Son is God and that Mary is the mother of Jesus, is it true that "the Virgin Mary" is "the Mother of God"?

Roman Catholicism Also Invented This Trinity—

(1) God the Father, (2) God the Son and  (3) The Mother of God

We’ve already learned that the ever-evolving Roman Church (while pagan influences were evident in the early centuries) invented this form of Trinity—God in Three Persons: God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit.  Sadly, most of the Protestant Churches have acquired this man-made, pagan-originated Trinity creed.
 
Roman Catholicism is widely known for its affinity and dependence of human traditions from post-apostolic times even to this day.  (It considers the Scripture as insufficient in itself for salvation and Christian living.)  There is another form of a Trinity dogma developed around that time.  And pagan influences of having three gods were so prevalent in the early Roman Church that the composition of a familial type of a Trinity would include the Father, the Son and the Mother.  Hmm … why is this not acceptable to most Protestant Churches?
 
While it is not the intent to discuss in detail “the Virgin Mary,” “Mother of God,” at this time, we know that it is common knowledge among non-Catholics that although Mary was highly favored, she was not sinless but was in need of a Savior.
 
The trinities of paganism and the Roman Church are illustrated below.  In Catholicism, the 3^rd “PERSON” of the Trinity dogma is either the “the Holy Spirit” or “the Mother of God.”

ABOMINATION
THE TRINITY PRODUCES MOTHER GODDESS WORSHIP: MUSICIAN ARE THE ABOMINATION.

Rev. 17:3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness:         and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast,          full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns. [coronets?] Rev. 17:4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour,         and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls,         having a golden cup in her hand full of         abominations and filthiness of her fornication: Rev. 17:5 And upon her forehead was a name written,         MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS         OF THE EARTH. Matthew 24.15 "When, therefore, you see the abomination of desolation, which was spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place (let the reader understand), Prophet-es  One who speaks for a god and interprets his will to man, Dios p. interpreter, expounder of the will of Zeus, of Tiresias.  Especially of the Delphic APOLLO- APOLLYON, “Dios p. esti Loxias patros” A.Eu.19; of the minister and interpreter at Delphi, Hdt.8.36,37; 3. interpreter, expounder of the utterances of the mantis [locusts-muses] (q.v.), Pl.Ti.72a: hence, of Poets, “Pieridōn p.” Pi.Pae.6.6; “Mousan p.” B.8.3, cf. Pl.Phdr.262d. Mousan  theias antiluron mousas  [playing the lyre and singing.] moisan pherein” [Music IS the Laded Burden] “adein adokimon m.” 3. disreputable, discredited, reprobate, B. Phoe-bēus , a, um, adj., Phœbean, Apollinean: “carmina,” Lucr. 2, 504: “lampas,” the sun, Verg. A. 4, 6: “virgo,” Daphne, Ov. P. 2, 2, 82: “laurus,” id. Tr. 4, 2, 51: “Rhodos,” where the worship of Apollo prevailed, id. M. 7, 365: “lyra,” id. H. 16, 180: “sortes,” oracle, id. M. 3, 130: “tripodes,” id. A. A. 3, 789: “Phoebeā morbos pellere arte,” id. F. 3, 827.— Female Worship Leater C. Phoebas , ădis, f., a PRIESTESS of Apollo; hence the inspired one, the PROPHETESS Ov. Am. 2, 8, 12; id. Tr. 2, 400; Luc. 5, 128; 165. -therap-ōn  henchman, attendant [1] “Mousaōn [2] therapontes” [1]   Mousa music, song [3 below]  stu^ger-os , Mousa “kanakhan .       theias antiluron mousas”         II. mousa, as Appellat., music, song, “m. stugera” A.Eu.308            Muses as:   moisan pherein      LADED BURDEN         Muses as:   adokim-os , disreputable, discredited, reprobate,        Muses as:   “kanakhan . . theias antiluron mousas                              clanging and harp-player

TRINITY DOGMA "THE HOLY SPIRIT" MISSING IN THE GREETING OF THE EPISTLES.

ADDED 10.12.22

Donnie.Cruz wrote: ↑

3:40 AM - Jun 20

Donnie.Cruz:

•  Throughout the epistles (beginning with Romans), greetings to churches and individual Christians were coming only from God the Father and His Son Jesus Christ.  What happened to greetings from the Holy Spirit "person"?

REPLY:

The Trinity Dogma's "The Holy Spirit" (as the 3rd 'PERSON') Is Missing

in These Greetings Both from God and from Jesus in the Epistles

Was Paul, as well as other apostles or authors, wrong in omitting the Trinitarian's "Holy Spirit" -- the 3rd "person" in these greetings?

The epistles were addressed to the churches in Rome, Corinth, Galatia, Ephesus, Philippi, Colosse, and Thessalonica; to Timothy, Titus, Philemon, and others.  It is remarkable that these greetings uniformly come: (a) from THE ONLY ONE TRUE GOD, THE FATHER and (b) from THE MAN JESUS CHRIST, THE SON OF GOD.

Is there really the Holy Spirit, or the Holy Ghost, as the 3rd PERSON espoused in the Trinity dogma?  If so, we have no evidence to support that claim other than human speculation or what was invented by the Roman Church in the early centuries with strong influences from the Roman government and paganism.

This is not to say that we ignore or reject this passage: "And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption" (Ephesians 4:30).  The "holy Spirit of God" is not a name.  Oh! God's Spirit belongs to God.  
 
Here are the passages that support the observations expressed above -- that there is ONLY ONE GOD the FATHER and ONE SON of GOD, the man Jesus Christ:

1. Romans 1:[7] To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.
2. 1 Cor. 1:[3] Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.
3. 2 Cor. 1:[2] Grace be to you and peace from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.
4. Gal. 1:[3] Grace be to you and peace from God the Father, and from our Lord Jesus Christ,
5. Eph. 1:[3] Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:
6. Phil. 1:[2] Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.
7. Col. 1:[2] To the saints and faithful brethren in Christ which are at Colosse: Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.  [3] We give thanks to God and the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, praying always for you
8. 1 Thess. 1:[1] Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus, unto the church of the Thessalonians which is in God the Father and in the Lord Jesus Christ: Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.
9. 2 Thess. 1:[1] Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus, unto the church of the Thessalonians in God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ:  [2] Grace unto you, and peace, from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
10. 1 Tim. 1:[2] Unto Timothy, my own son in the faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God our Father and Jesus Christ our Lord.
11. 2 Tim. 1:[2] To Timothy, my dearly beloved son: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God the Father and Christ Jesus our Lord.
12. Titus 1:[4] To Titus, mine own son after the common faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ our Saviour.
13. Philemon 1:[3] Grace to you, and peace, from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
14. Heb. 1:[1] God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, [2] Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
15. James 1:[1] James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.
16. 1 Peter 1:[3] Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ
17. 2 Peter 1:[2] Grace and peace be multiplied unto you through the knowledge of God, and of Jesus our Lord
18. 1 John 1:[3] That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.
19. 2 John 1:[3] Grace be with you, mercy, and peace, from God the Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of the Father, in truth and love.
20. 3 John 1:[1] The elder unto the wellbeloved Gaius, whom I love in the truth.
21. Jude 1:[1] Jude, the servant of Jesus Christ, and brother of James, to them that are sanctified by God the Father, and preserved in Jesus Christ, and called: [2] Mercy unto you, and peace, and love, be multiplied.

Donnie.Cruz wrote: ↑

3:40 AM - Jun 20
Question:  In the book of John, it's all about the relationship between the Father and His Son Jesus Christ.  The Trinity's Holy Spirit as a "PERSON" is not involved in the communication between the Father and the Son.  Why is that?

REPLY: HOLY SPIRIT "PERSON" MISSING IN FATHER-SON RELATIONSHIP IN JOHN.
     Reply:

Holy Spirit "Person" Missing in Jesus' Relationship with "My Father"

in the Book of John

This post also deals with "the Holy Spirit" -- identified as a "PERSON" and gender-assigned as a "HE" in/by the man-made Trinity Creed.  Sadly and unfortunately: because I don't believe it was God's intention to confuse humanity with man's idea that there are "Three Persons in One God" or that "God in Three Persons" is scriptural or that there are three co-Gods.  (Part of a future discussion will be about references in the Scripture regarding the Spirit of God identified by Trinitarians as a "Person" with the pronoun of "He" instead of "it" wherever a pronoun is needed in translation.)
 
The Trinity dogma clearly opposes the truth that the Father is the ONLY ONE true God without any exception.  There are numerous passages that support this truth and none that supports the human creed.
 
In the gospels, we find parallel accounts of the life of Christ.  I have just done some research and searches. While the expression "my Father" occurs frequently in the gospels, I have observed that the book of John has "my Father" with the most number of occurrences.
 
These 35 references do not mention "the Spirit" along with the expression "my Father."  Instead, we read "I" and "me" and "my" and "myself" in reference to Jesus, the Son of God.  In other words, these are narratives and proclamations of the relationship and communication between God the Father and His Son Jesus Christ.  Can't we safely say that the "PERSON" of the Holy Spirit (of the Trinity creed) was not involved or engaged in the conversation between God and Jesus?
 
Below are some of the passages that make the point for us -- the Father is the ONLY ONE true and living God and His Son Jesus Christ sent to earth to do His Father's will.  "My Father":

Timothy silences both male and female beyond PREACHING by READING the Word once each week.

1Tim. 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
1Tim. 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
1Tim. 2:6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.
1Tim. 2:7 Whereunto I am ordained a preacher, and an apostle, (I speak the truth in Christ, and lie not;) a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and verity.

• John 5:17 -- My Father worketh hitherto, and I work.
• John 5:43 -- I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not:
• John 10:25 -- Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me.
• John 10:30 -- I and my Father are one. (United-Unamonous0
  
• John 10:37 -- If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not.
• John 14:21 -- He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
• John 14:28 -- Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I. (We will cover/discover who the Comforter really is in this passage and in other passages in the future.)
• John 15:1 -- I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.
• John 15:10 -- If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
• John 16:10 -- Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more
• John 20:17 -- Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

Other references to "my Father" and Jesus not listed above:

• John 2:16 ... 6:32 ... 6:65 ... 8:19 ... 8:28 ... 8:38 ... 8:49 ... 8:54
• John 10:17 ... 10:18 ... 10:29 ... 10:32 ... 12:26 ... 14:2 ... 14:7
• John 14:12 ... 14:20 ... 14:23 ... 15:8 ... 15:15 ... 15:23 ... 15:24
• John 18:11 ... 20:21

So, is God's own Spirit a "Person"?  Is God's own holy Spirit "God"?

Donnie.Cruz wrote: ↑

12:36 AM - Oct 26

Conversion:  In the name of Jesus Christ.  When the remission of sins is the result in the salvation process, the required baptism is not in the name of God the Father; it is not in the name of the holy Spirit of God, but it is in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ!!!

1. Acts 2[38] … Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghos

REPLY: WHAT IS THE GIFT OF [ ] "HOLY SPIRIT" AFTER OBEDIENCE IN BAPTISM

Reply:

What Is the Gift of [ ] "Holy Spirit"

When Sins Are Remitted in Baptism?

In studying countless scriptural references that debunk the pagan- and Catholic-originated Trinity dogma, we've also come to learn that baptism is only in the name of Jesus Christ.
 
Concerning baptism, please read each of these passages in its entirety or if already familiar, simply review the highlighted words and expressions as shown in the preceding post -- Acts 2:38; Acts 8:12; Acts 8:16; Acts 10:48; Acts 19:5; Acts 22:16; Rom. 6:3; Gal. 3:27.
 
Baptism results in the washing of sins away or the remission of sins or the forgiveness of sins.  And the gift of _____________ shall be obtained.  Wonder "what" that gift is?  The Trinitarian follower would rather say: "Who" is that gift?  Let's find out below.
 
Acts 2:38 is the passage chosen here for this particular study because it encompasses both elements that are commonly discussed: (1) baptism in whose name and (2) the "gift" received.
 

"Then Peter said unto them,

Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ

for the remission of sins,

and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost." (Acts 2:38, KJV)

 

BE BAPTIZED IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST.  We are not discussing here the Catholic way of baptism by sprinkling or pouring -- and that negates what the scriptural method and examples portray. Nor the Baptist way that one is immersed after having become a Christian -- a concept that negates the scriptural purpose of baptism.
 
Eusebius accurately quoted from the original manuscript when Jesus, who was given all power and authority by His God and Father, personally said: "Go ye and make disciples of all the nations IN MY NAME."  Unfortunately, Latin corruption got involved in the transcription of the text in Matthew 28 by altering Jesus' own words from "in my name" to the invented name of the "Three Persons in One God" -- a completely manufactured concept which Jesus himself did not utter.  The writer Luke was in agreement with Jesus and Eusebius who, a couple of centuries later, consistently quoted Jesus when he commissioned his followers to make disciples in the name of Jesus. 
 
Baptism or burial into Jesus Christ is synonymous with baptism or burial in the name of Jesus:
 

• Baptism into his (Christ's) death is NOT baptism into the death of the Father, his God (Rom. 6:3)
• Baptism into his (Christ's) death is NOT baptism into the death of God's Spirit (Rom. 6:3)
• Putting on Christ in baptism is NOT putting on God the Father in baptism (Gal. 3:27)
• Putting on Christ in baptism is NOT putting on God's spirit in baptism (Gal. 3:27)
• Can you imagine substituting the "Three Persons" for "him" and substituting "them" for "him" in Colossians 2:12?  “Buried with the Father, Son and Holy Spirit in baptism, wherein also you are risen with them through the faith of the operation of God, who has raised them from the dead.”
• Can you imagine calling on the name of "the Three Persons" instead of "the name of the Lord" in Acts 22:16? “Arise, and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on the NAME of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.”
• There are many other passages that the name of Jesus might be replaced with the name of "the Three Persons" the Trinity way inappropriately!!!

 
YE SHALL RECEIVE THE GIFT OF [] HOLY SPIRIT.   Note the following:
 

1. In New Testament Greek, the are no capitalization rules.  In various translations or versions of the Bible, capitalization of the words "Holy" and "Spirit" are based on either the English grammatical rules or the translator's preconceived view of the Trinity Creed.
2. We are using the word "spirit" instead of "ghost" preferably for simplification, since both words are interchangeable in the Scripture.
3. In our study below, we are opting not to capitalize the words "holy" and "spirit" wherever referenced singly or together.

 
Notice "THE GIFT OF [] HOLY SPIRIT" above?  It's to get your attention, to wonder why?  This portion of the text in Acts 2:38 is rendered as follows in Greek:

No further explanation there as to the difference between the literal translation and the Trinitarian translation which creates the illusion that the gift to be obtained is the 3rd Person of the Trinity -- the "Holy Spirit."
 
The trinitarian argument is to include the word "the" as part of the entire phrase "the Holy Spirit" to justify the notion that the 3rd Person of the Trinity is the gift.  That should not be the case as the Greek word "tou" is actually translated as "of-the" -- a combination of the words "of" and "the" as the literal translation indicates.
 
The expression "holy spirit" (with the adjective "holy" modifying the noun "spirit") is not a proper name.  The word "spirit" is not a proper noun even if it is an element or an essence of a divine being.  The "spirit" in this case is modified by the word "holy"; thus, it can be stated as a "spirit that is holy."
 
In context, the proper translation (without considering capitalization rules in English) should be any of the following:
 

• ... shall receive the gift of the holy spirit (or "the spirit that is holy")
• ... shall receive the gift of a holy spirit (or "a spirit that is holy")
• ... shall receive the gift of holy spirit (or "spirit that is holy")

 
Why is not the gift of God the Father Himself? Why is it not the gift of Jesus Christ himself?  Why does it have to be the Trinity-based belief that the gift refers to the 3rd Person of the Trinity?  No, it is not; no, it does not have to be.  This particular passage indicates none of the above. 
 
This "tou hagiou pneumatos" is the only reference in Scripture associated with baptism. And there is a problem when a Trinitarian follower associates "the" with "holy spirit" and concludes that the 3rd Person ("the Holy Spirit") is the gift to be received.
 
No, there is no 3rd Person in the Godhead.  God's Spirit is not a person; it is not a 3rd Person.
 
So, what is the gift of a holy spirit?
 
There are passages that support this truth that the new babe in Christ receives this gift of a holy spirit: 

• In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace. (Ephesians 1:7)
• In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins (Colossians 1:14)
• Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord (Acts 3:19)
•  The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ (I Peter 3:21)

 
In having redemption through the blood of Christ, when sins are forgiven, when guilt is removed, when conscience is pure and clean and clear, when refreshing comes -- THE GIFT OF A HOLY SPIRIT IS RECEIVED.

In Isaiah 55, water is WORD  Isaiah.55.Word.Spirit.html
In John 6:63
          John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth;
          the flesh profiteth nothing:
          the words that I speak unto you,
          they are spirit, and they are life.

John 4:10 Jesus answered and said unto her,
        If thou knewest the gift of God, and who it is that saith to thee,
        Give me to drink; thou wouldest have asked of him,
        and he would have given thee living water.

Acts 8:20 But Peter said unto him, Thy money perish with thee,
        because thou hast thought that the gift of God
        may be purchased with money.

Eph. 4:7 But unto every one of us is given grace
         according to the measure of the gift of Christ.

2Tim. 1:6 Wherefore I put thee in remembrance that thou stir up the gift of God,
         which is in thee by the putting on of my hands.

Heb. 12:23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn,
        which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all,
        and to the SPIRITS of just men made PERFECT,

1Cor. 15:45 And so it is written,
        The first man Adam was made a living soul;
        the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

SEARCHING FOR AN ANSWER
IS "GOD THE HOLY SPIRIT" FOUND IN SCRIPTURE? WE WAIT FOR AN ANSWER.
11.26.22 update

Is "God the Holy Spirit" found in the Scripture? Where?  Let us know soon.
What is the difference between the man-made belief of "God the Holy Spirit" and "the holy Spirit of God"? Title:

What Is "the Holy Spirit"? (NOT: Who Is "the Holy Spirit"?) -- Part A

 
There are 174 passages that reference "the Spirit of God" in the Scripture.  Only about 25 are listed below, but they contain the various expressions from the 170+ passages regarding "the Spirit." We need to review and study these passages very carefully and with an open mind.  Hint: Look for those little words that might/will help us determine if there is really that 3rd "Person" commonly referred to as "God the Holy Spirit."
 
(We've used solely the KJV for searches and the version's translation.)
 
Here are selected passages that deal with what's commonly referred to as "THE HOLY SPIRIT" in the Old Testament (KJV):

1. Cast me not away from thy presence; and take not thy holy spirit from me.   (Psa. 51:11)
2. But they rebelled, and vexed his holy Spirit: therefore he was turned to be their enemy, and he fought against them.  (Isa. 63:10)
3. Then he remembered the days of old, Moses, and his people, saying, Where is he that brought them up out of the sea with the shepherd of his flock? where is he that put his holy Spirit within him?  (Isa. 63:11)
4. Gen.1 [2] And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.  (Gen. 1:2)
5. Gen.41 [38] And Pharaoh said unto his servants, Can we find such a one as this is, a man in whom the Spirit of God is?  (Gen.41:38)
6. And I have filled him with the spirit of God, in wisdom, and in understanding, and in knowledge, and in all manner of workmanship,  (Exo. 31:3)
7. All the while my breath is in me, and the spirit of God is in my nostrils;   (Job 27:3)
8. And the Spirit of the LORD came upon him, and he judged Israel, and went out to war: and the LORD delivered Chushan-rishathaim king of Mesopotamia into his hand; and his hand prevailed against Chushan-rishathaim.  (Judg. 3:10)
9. But the Spirit of the LORD came upon Gideon, and he blew a trumpet; and Abi-ezer was gathered after him.  (Judg. 6:34)

Here are selected passages that deal with what's commonly referred to as "THE HOLY SPIRIT" in the New Testament (KJV):

1. But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.  (Rom. 8:11)
2. But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.  (I Cor. 2:10)
3. That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man;  (Eph. 3:16)
4. Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he hath given us of his Spirit.  (I John 4:13)
5. He therefore that despiseth, despiseth not man, but God, who hath also given unto us his holy Spirit.  (I Thess. 4:8)
6. If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?  (Luke 11:13)
7. And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.  (Eph. 4:30)
8. And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.  (Acts 2:4)
9. And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:  (Matt. 3:16)
10. But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God is come unto you.  (Matt. 12:28)
11. But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.  (Rom. 8:9)
12. For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.  (Rom. 8:14)
13. Through mighty signs and wonders, by the power of the Spirit of God; so that from Jerusalem, and round about unto Illyricum, I have fully preached the gospel of Christ.  (Rom. 15:19)
14. For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.  (I Cor. 2:11)
15. Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?  (I Cor. 3:16)
16. Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:  (I John 4:2)

NEXT: 12.8.22 post

NEXT: What Is "the Holy Spirit"? (NOT: Who Is "the Holy Spirit"?) -- Part B
NEXT: The Spirit of God -- Gender-Assigned By the Pagan- and Catholic-Originated Trinity Dogma
NEXT: What Is "the Holy Spirit"? (NOT: Who Is "the Holy Spirit"?) -- Part B


Here are additional selected passages that deal with what's commonly referred to as "THE HOLY SPIRIT" in the New Testament (KJV):

1. Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.  (II Cor. 3:3)
2. And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.  (I Cor. 6:11)
3. For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you.  (Matt. 10:20)

 
As mentioned earlier, the KJV solely is used for searches and for citing its translation of passages.  The number of occurrences of the word “spirit” (259 times in OT, 323 times in NT) with its varied use almost defies analysis and requires the patience of Job.  Since the last post, we have added searches for “the Spirit” and identified which passages are associated with “the Spirit of God the Father.” We have excluded references to “the spirit” that is associated with man and natural things. So we now have about 240 passages, instead of 174, that are related to the subject matter.  A variation of expressions related to “the Spirit of God” seems unnecessarily complex.  Hopefully, the chart below has simplified the issue of what (not “who”) the Spirit of God really is.


 
The Word “Spirit” Defined:  The Hebrew word for “spirit” in the Old Testament is ruah.  It is used more often of God than of persons or animals, accordingly—that’s good to know.  When “’the Spirit of God’ moved upon the face of the waters” at creation (Gen. 1:2), God’s Spirit was power/a wind sweeping over the waters. Therefore, the Spirit of God was involved with creation.   Job 33:4 speaks of “the breath of the Almighty.”  (When applied to a person, “spirit” comes to mean strength, feelings, will.)
 
In the New Testament, pneuma is the Greek word for “spirit.” The Holy Ghost was active on the day of Pentecost—there came a sound from heaven as of a “rushing mighty wind” (Acts 1, 2). Rom. 15:19 speaks of the power of the Spirit of God.  God’s Spirit dwells in Christians (I Cor. 3:16). There are numerous passages in the Scripture that indicate wisdom, understanding, knowledge, discernment on the part of God’s Spirit that clearly speak of the mind of God.
 
In summary, the Spirit of God has its different attributes: power, wind, breath, mind, and indweller.  And the type of role of the Spirit is relevant to a particular dispensation or event—creation is not happening again; the day of Pentecost occurred two millennia ago.
 
Some of the Claims Made By Trinitarian Advocates Concerning “the Holy Spirit”:
 

• Claim: “You may know him by name and know that he’s mentioned(*) during a baptism but have no idea who he is, how he is at work in your life, or whether or not you should even care.” (*We’ve already learned that the evolving Roman Church changed the text in the original manuscript in Matt. 28:18-20 to its own baptism formula.)
• Claim: “The Holy Spirit is a person, not impersonal force or influence.”
• Claim: “The Holy Spirit is more than a force—He’s a Person.”
• Claim: “Make no mistake, the Holy Spirit is so much more than an it or impersonal force—he’s God.”
• Claim: “The Holy Spirit is treated as equal to God the Father and Son.”
• Claim: “The Holy Spirit is called by several names, such as ‘the Comforter.’”
• Claim: The Catholic Trinity Creed—“We believe that the one God eternally exists in three Persons: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit; and that these three are one God, co-equal and co-eternal, having precisely the same nature and attributes, and worthy of precisely the same worship, confidence, and obedience.”

Observations:

• “God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.”  John 4:24).  This is not to be confused with the claim that “God the Holy Spirit” is the 3^rd Person of the Catholic Trinity.  This passage simply means that God is not composed of flesh and blood and bones; He is “spirit” and is not a human who literally came to earth.
• “God the Holy Ghost”—Do you wonder how many times you’ve seen this expression before?  The implication might be that God is a Ghost … a holy Ghost?
• “God the Holy Spirit”—so Trinitarian!  This is not found in the Bible.
• “The Holy Spirit”—the Trinitarian preference!  This expression is found only ONCE in the Bible: Luke 11:13 (see chart).  Compare that expression with the others, e.g., “the Spirit of God” or “the Spirit of the Lord”; etc.

The Words That Debunk the Human Idea That “God the Holy Spirit” Is Person #3 of the Trinity Family:

Expression: “the Holy Spirit”—this phrase is mentioned only ONCE in the entire Bible (Luke 11:13).  It is not even mentioned in the Old Testament.  Yet the Catholic Trinity creed conveniently uses “the Holy Spirit” (rather than “the Holy Ghost” and other designations) in promoting the idea that the Trinity includes these “Persons”:

1. God the Father (scriptural: John 6:27; I Cor. 8:6; Gal. 1:1,3; Eph. 6:23; etc.)
2. God the Son (not a single scripture supports this human idea)
3. God the Holy Spirit (not a single scripture supports this man-made concept)

The definite article “the” precedes “Holy Spirit.”  The word “the” disqualifies the entire expression from being a proper name; rather, it is a description.  We cannot equate “the Holy Spirit” (“spirit” modified by “holy) to God.  In John 17:1-3, Jesus Christ addressed his Father, “the hour is come … that they might know thee the only true God….”  Because of the word “ONLY” in that passage, it excludes everyone else from being God; even Jesus Christ is not God!
 
Expression: “his holy spirit”—the significance of this phrase is ignored by Trinity followers and overlooked by others by not emphasizing the possessive pronoun “his” in the expression. “His” strongly suggests belongingness and being part of a whole.  So, whose “spirit” is it?  Is it the spirit of a spirit?  I think not!  Is it “the spirit of Christ?  I think not, since Christ is not God but instead is the Son of God.  Scripture says: it is the Spirit of God! (Isa. 63:10,11; I Thess. 4:8)
 
Expression: “thy holy spirit”—the significance of this phrase is also ignored by Trinity followers and overlooked by others by not emphasizing the possessive pronoun [although archaic] “thy” in the expression.  “Thy” strongly suggests belongingness.  Only one OT passage indicates this (Psa. 51:11); it is in reference to “the Spirit of the LORD.”
 
Expression: “his Spirit”—mentioned once in the OT and 4 times in the NT.  “His” is a possessive pronoun that indicates possession, of course.  This is neither in reference to the Spirit of Christ nor to the spirit of a spirit.  Rather, it’s in reference to the Spirit of God.  This passage clearly states it: “But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God” (I Cor. 2:10).
 
Expression: “the Spirit of your Father”—the Father is the only true God, Jesus himself declared it.  Again, “your” is a possessive pronoun.  The preposition “of” also indicates possession.  With “of” and “your,” this cannot be wrong: God the Father owns “the Spirit.” (Matt. 8:20)
 
Expression: “the Spirit of our God”—the preposition “of” and the possessive pronoun “our” clearly indicate possession.  Only God the Father can make that claim. (I Cor. 6:11)
 
Expression: “the Spirit of the living God”—this is found in II Cor. 3:3.  The preposition “of” indicates possession.  “The living God” is only the Father.
 
Expression: “the Holy Ghost”—over 80 occurrences in the New Testament; it is not mentioned a single time in the Old Testament.  (I believe that Trinitarians conveniently use “God the Holy Spirit” instead of “God the Holy Ghost” when referring to the Catholic Trinity dogma’s 3^rd Person.)  It is noteworthy that the Holy Ghost had its role at the time of the birth of Christ and at Pentecost.
 
Expression: “the holy Spirit of God”—is mentioned only once in the N.T. but powerfully declares that the 3^rd Person of the Trinity dogma is not a distinct “person.”  The preposition “of” clearly indicates possession.  It is God’s Spirit, which is holy, that we are not to grieve.
 
Expression:  “the Spirit of God”—an expression frequently mentioned in both the O.T. (14 times) and N.T. (11 times).  The preposition “of” indicates possession, thus, God has a “spirit.”  It is an essence or an attribute of God, in referring to part of God’s nature—wind, breath, power, will, mind.
 
Expression: “the Spirit of the LORD [or Lord]”—an expression frequently mentioned in both the O.T. (26 times) and N.T. (5 times).  The preposition “of” indicates possession, thus, the Lord has a “spirit.”  It is an essence or an attribute of God manifested at creation or in the Old Testament dispensation or at Pentecost or in today’s Christian living.
 
Expression: “the Spirit of truth, …”—expressions that refer to Christ.  This is not to be confused with “the Spirit of God” and other expressions listed above.  There is much confusion regarding who “the Comforter” really is. When “the Spirit of truth … shall be in you” (John 14:17) is expressed as some future event, it contradicts the truth about the Spirit of God being in the present (not in the future).  Remember Jesus saying: “I am the way, the truth and the life”? This will be another topic of conversation.
 
The structure of the expression “the Spirit of God” can be explained in this simple manner.  With “spirit” defined as wind, breath, power, will or mind, these words are not proper nouns.  Illustrations:

• The nose of Durante is not Durante himself.
• The big nose of Durante is not Durante himself.
• The mind of Einstein is not Einstein himself.
• The bright mind of Einstein is not Einstein himself.

 
Conclusion:  I am very much in favor of expressing or identifying “the Spirit” as simply “the Spirit of God” or “the Spirit of the Lord” or “the Spirit of our God.”  The preposition “of” and the possessive pronoun “our” [or thy, his, your] will help me more clearly understand the truth that “the Spirit OF God” is not a “Person” and is not the 3^rd Person that the Catholic Trinity dogma claims.

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3:40 AM - Jun 20

•  Is "God the Holy Spirit" found in the Scripture?

The Spirit of God:  Gender-Assigned By the Pagan-Influenced and Catholic-Invented Trinity Dogma

We have learned about the pagan- and Catholic-originated Trinity dogma from earlier posts:
 

1. That the Trinity did not exist and was not debated in Old Testament times; that it was neither a topic of conversation nor a subject of controversy in the first century church because of its non-existence.
2. That with the prevalent pagan view of multiple gods and goddesses, as well as post-apostolic arguments concerning “the Son of God” and “the Spirit of God” as God the Father’s co-equals as “God,” the Trinity Creed was made official by the ever-evolving Roman Church in the 4th century.
3. That certain texts, sadly and unfortunately, are spurious as a result of original manuscripts being tampered with:  (Matt. 28:18-20 – “… make disciples … in my name” was changed to “… baptizing … in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost….”) and (I John 5:7 – “For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.” This passage is missing in the oldest Greek manuscripts of the book of I John.  It is found in rare cases only around the 15th century A.D.)
4. That the Holy Spirit (Trinity’s 3rd Person) was not included in greetings to churches and individuals by (a) God and (b) Jesus (in the epistles).
5. That the Holy Spirit (Trinity’s 3rd Person) was not involved in (a) God’s and (b) Jesus’ communication and relationship (mainly in the book of John).
6. That the expression “the Holy Spirit” (mentioned only once in the New Testament/Bible) has other equivalent expressions (“the Spirit of God” … “the Spirit of the Lord”) that describe more fully and indicate that “the spirit” is an essence that belongs to God the Father and is NOT a Person.

But the fabricated and fallacious Trinity doctrine, invented by the Roman Church, accepted and promoted by most Protestant Churches, is unquestionably popular; it is embraced by and being taught in some churches of Christ.
 
Proponents of the doctrine claim that “the Holy Spirit” is the 3^rd Person of the Trinity family because of functions and roles performed by Person #3.  So, as a “Person” (and only a “person” can do it, of course), “the Spirit of God [Person?] does the following as claimed: guide your prayers … make you more like Christ … involved in the process of sanctification … help you to do the Father’s will … etc.  Since “the Spirit of the Lord” can behave and act like God Himself, does that make His Spirit a separate “Person”?  Subsequently, the Trinity dogma has gender-assigned “the Spirit OF God” with a “He” pronoun.  The Bible doesn’t say anything about the personhood of “the Spirit of God.”  Only the Trinity follower can make that assumption and claim such an assumption as “truth.” 

Just a recent observation that’s in the news (you may access the clip directly or link to my documentation):
 
Priest close to the Pope is accused of inviting two nuns to take part in a 'Holy Trinity' threesome

Trinity_Priest to take part in a 'Holy Trinity' threesome.pdf (529.42 KiB)   1

Priest and Holy Trinity

Learning Pronouns to Determine the Gender of “the Spirit of God”—widely known as “the Holy Spirit”

 
There are different types of pronouns (at least 10), but I would like to review a few of them: Personal pronouns, Relative pronouns, Possessive pronouns, Reflexive pronouns, etc. (It would be best to access the following link: https://www.grammarly.com/blog/pronouns/ for more information.)  Here are a few simple rules:

• Relative pronouns—traditionally, who refers to people, and which and that refer to animals or things.
• Reflexive pronouns—end in -self or -selves: myself, himself, itself, etc.

 
I found only one passage referenced by Trinitarians as their proof that “the Holy Spirit” is certainly a “Person” and masculine. Even then, the passage is referring to Jesus Christ and his Spirit—and NOT to the Spirit of God the Father:
 

1. John 14 [17] Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

 
It is significant to note that the Trinity-influenced translator deviated from its proper and accurate translation—“of truth” should be “of the truth” (Jesus said: I am the way, the truth, and the life).  The correct translation for the words “him” and “he” is the pronoun “it.” Therefore, the incorrect translation of pronouns invalidates the only “proof” that Trinitarians have concerning the gender of “the Holy Spirit.”
 
In fact, there are other passages that confirm the Spirit of Christ, the Son of God:
 

1. Gal 4 [6] And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.
2. Phil 1 [19] For I know that this shall turn to my salvation through your prayer, and the supply of the Spirit of Jesus Christ
3. 1 Peter 1 [11] Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.

 
The moment of truth … the crux of the matter … unbeknownst to the Trinity believers, the following passages as translated indicate that with the use of proper relative pronouns and reflexive pronouns, “the Spirit of the Lord”—a.k.a. the Spirit of God the Father—is not a Person.  “God the Holy Spirit” is not found in the Bible:
 

1. The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:  (Rom. 8:16)
2. Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.  (Rom. 8:26)
3. (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)  (John 7:39)
4. Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.  (I Cor. 2:12)
5. For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.  (2 Cor. 11:4)
6. And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.  (I John 3:24)
7. And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:  (Matt. 3:16)
8. For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you.  (Matt. 10:20)
9. And straightway coming up out of the water, he saw the heavens opened, and the Spirit like a dove descending upon him:  (Mark 1:10)

 
Those words—the preposition “of” … the article “the” … the pronouns “which” and “itself” and “it”—that help debunk the Trinity doctrine!!!  Let’s not misuse them or consider them as insignificant!

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Matt. 23:9 And call NO MAN mayour FATHER upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven. Pater Hence, patres = patricii A. The father as HEAD and  resentative of the HOUSEHOLD,  the title given to the high-priest of Mithras,” Of the founder of a SCHOOL: of a teacher, as a source or creator: Isocrates pater eloquentiae,” Rom. 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, Music from clay tablets onward has resulted in sexual perversion         God gave them over to a reprobate mind,         to do those things which are not convenient; ta pros patros by the father's side, Hdt.7.99 of God, the FATHER of the Israelites, LXXDe.32.6, al. ; FATHER of men, Ev.Matt. 6.8, al. ; FATHER of Jesus Christ, ib.7.21,al. Matt. 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven;         but he that DOETH the WILL of my Father which is in heaven. ACU Abilene Christian University and Highland Church has been the FOUNDERS and trainers of end-time TRIBULATORS.  Beginning with Jo Bass as Female leader and John T. Willis the founders and supporter of ALL once-Christian Churches have let the WOLVES into the flock even when "Evangelicals are beginning to build their theologies around what it means for man to be in the presence of God [rather than around the objective truth of the Word of God]. "Influenced by the wider Christian world, evangelicals who have adopted either a relational (incarnational in his words) approach or a charismatic ("neo-pentecostal") approach to their theology are more and more challenging their fellow believers to rethink the Gospel from the standpoint of their own experience with it. Their claim is that traditional evangelical theology is largely irrelevant or inadequate." (MacArthur, John, Charismatic Chaos, p. 45, Zondervan). THE WORSHIP OF THE BEAST: LOCUSTS ARE FEMALE WORSHIP LEADERS. PATER   author of songs IV. metaph., father, author, “aoidan p . . . euainētos orpheus” their own tou logou Pater   a title of honour Carrol D. Osburn: "For men whose gender identity and social domination were at stake due to these major upheavals that threatened patriarchalism, religion was seen as a useful tool...men now held that women were not to exercise authority...Texts such as I Cor. 14:34-35 and I Tim. 2:11-15 were stressed to forbid women teaching and preaching in the presence of men" (WOMEN IN THE CHURCH: Reclaiming the Ideal, p. 8-9). Train Prophetic roles, Channelers and Facilitators the method of subverting the 'hierarchial" views of Jesus and Paul. The end-time subversion is the beginninng-time version which is Or as Rubel Shelly and Randy Harris state in their Second Incarnation: "Decadent and deleterious" which to those without their doctorate means ROTTEN AND DESTRUCTIVE. PAUL WARNED THAT LACK OF LOVE FOR TRUTH ASKS GOD TO SEND STRONG DELUSIONS. ASSUREDLY THE BOOKS AND LECTURE SPAWNED BY MEN CLAIMING TO BE SUPERIOR TO GOD FOR THEIR CULTURE SOUND INSAND. From Rubel Shelly who has received new SPECTACLES (peep-stones) to get a new vision Leonard.Allen.From.Revival.Ridge.to.Bible.Deism.Valley "A new type of piety developed alongside the rationalism of the Enlightenment, which is often called 'the religion of the heart.' Although it was centered in the heart rather than the head, it shared many of the same preoccupations as Deism. It urged men and women to abandon external proofs and authorities and discover the God who was within the heart and capacity of everybody. (Karen Armstrong. p. 315)

GODHEAD
GODHEAD OR DIVINITY DOES NOT MEAN THAT THE MAN JESUS WAS GOD.
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THE GREEK GODHEAD IN COLOSSIANS 2:9 plēr-ōma  that which fills, complement, fullness, full and perfect nature, duties of an office -theotēs , ētos, hē, A  divinity, divine nature, Ep.Col.2.9, Plu.2.359d, Luc. Icar.9, etc.; dia theotēta for religious reasons theiotēs , ētos, hē, A. divine nature, divinity, Ep.Rom.1.20 ,  2. f.l.for hosiotēs, Isoc.11.26, Plu.2.857a, and so prob. in Id.Sull.6. II. as title of Roman Emperors, OR: hosi-otēs , ētos, hē, A. disposition to observe divine law, piety, Pl.Prt.329c, Euthphr.14d sq., X.Cyr.6.1.47, pros theōn ho. piety towards them, Plu.Alc.34 ; “pros tous theous ”like Lat. pietas, “hē pros goneis ho.” D.S.7.4 ; “pros tēn tekousan” Id.31.27. THE LATIN GODHEAD IN COLOSSIANS 2:9 Latin Divine: dīvus a god, deity, divine being A Church of Christ of which Jesus is the Head is commanded to "teach that which has been taught." It has no other function. Latin Godhead or Divine is: dīvīnĭtas  Divine quality, divine nature, excellence; of the orator Dīvīnus  I. of or belonging to a deity, divine “divina studia colere  divina facta, i. e., religious exercise, divine worship, sacrifice, etc Divine ORIGIN. 2. The divine, that which comes from God, nihil est divino divinius, Sen. Ep. 66, 11.— 3. That which is under the sanction of a god; a. By divine inspiration, prophetically: “plura divine praesensa et praedicta reperiri     Divine stŭdĭum , I. a busying one's self about or application to a thing; assiduity, zeal, eagerness, fondness, inclination, desire, exertion, endeavor, study: (b). A place for study, a study, school (late Lat.): “philosophum (se egit) in omnibus studiis, templis, locis,”  Jesus was filled in a visible-audible sense with God's Word or Logos. That is the Regulative Principle OPPOSITE of personal experiences or comments, rhetoric, singing, playing instruments or acting. The Sabbath never meant a day of worship but REST: REST demands stopping everything so that you can obey the command to teach that which is written for our learning THE WORLD JESUS MADE Mundo   to make clean, to clean, cleanse          purgo  religious rites, to make expiation or atonement for, to expiate, purify, atone for, lustrate, = expiare, lustrare purgatissima ecclesia,” id. Doctr. Christ. 2, 16: “pietas,” i 1. Ceremonially, according to the Levitical law of uncleanness: “et purificabis eos (sc. Levitas),” Vulg. Num. 8, 6.— 2. Spiritually, from sin: “ab occultis meis munda me,” Vulg. Psa. 19, 12: “mundemus nos ab omni inquinamento carnis et spiritūs,” id. 2 Cor. 7, 1.—Hence, mundātus , a, um, P. a., cleansed, clean (late Lat.); in comp.: “quam sim ab illā peste mundatior,” THE WORLD "MADE" IN LATIN factus  Facio A making, building, style of architecture: “sementes,” i. e. to sow,  1 With a double object, to make a thing into something, to render it something 8.  In relig. lang., like the Gr. rhezein, to perform or celebrate a religious rite; to offer sacrifice, make an offering, to sacrifice: divinus gignomai   come into a new state of being  I.  abs., come into being OPPOSITE. einai, Emp.17.11, Pl.Phd.102e, cf. Ti.29a; and so, 1  of persons, to be born, neon gegaōs new born,  LXXJe.14.1, sōtēr einai II. of the REAL world, be, opp. become, “gignetai Christ's World was not something that existed other than in prophecy

SUN GOD
DAVID WORSHIPED A SUN GOD: HE TRIES TO AWAKEN HIM WITH HIS HARP. THESE PSALMS FORBIDDEN

Psa. 11:4 The LORD is in his holy temple, the LORD’S throne is in heaven:         his eyes behold, his eyelids try, the children of men. David wanted to AWAKEN his lyre so that he could AWAKEN the dawn.  Fits with the kings being abandoned to worship the starry host (re the Star of David) OR "poems tend to be poetic."  Nonetheless, the uneducated fall sucker for poetic speech (says Jesus of speaking parables): We even have a mention at a later date of a similar custom in connection with the cult in Jerusalem, where certain Levites, called me'oreim, 'arousers," sang every morning this verse from Ps 44: 'Awake, Lord, awake! Do not abandon us for ever." The Talmud tells us that Johy Hyrcanus suppressed the practice because it recalled too readily a pagan custom. A similar practice is attested in connection with the cult of Herakles-Melkart. According to Menander, as he is quoted by Josephus, the king Hiram, who was a contemporary of Solomon, rebuilt the temples of Tyre and, 'he was the first to celebrate the awakening of Heracles in the month of Peritius." (de Vaux, p. 247) In an inscription from Cyprus, in one from Rhodes and in several from around the district of Carthage, there are references to important personages who bear the title Mqm"lm which we can translate as 'arouser of the god." (de Vaux, p. 247). Habakkuk knew that the superstitious really believed that the musical sounds were the "voice of demons" living inside of the instrument: that is why the Catholics BAPTIZED bells, books, candles and pipe organs. Hab 2:18 What profiteth the graven image that the maker thereof hath graven it; the molten image,         and a teacher of lies,         that the maker of his work trusteth therein, to make dumb idols? Hab 2: 19 Woe unto him that saith to the wood,         Awake; to the dumb stone, Arise, it shall teach!         Behold, it is laid over with gold and silver,         and there is no breath at all in the midst of it. Hab 2: 20 But the LORD is in his holy temple:         let all the earth keep silence before him. Paul warned about LIFELESS INSTRUMENTS which are CARNAL WEAPONS.  You cannot defeat the principalities and powers in heavenly places [getting LIFTED UP with music] by using the INSTRUMENTS which came with Lucifer to be used AGAINST God's Word or SWORD of the spirit whichWE must use. Euripides-Ion PRIESTESS OF APOLLO  Euripides Ion. How Musical Worship of Apollo, Abaddon or Apollyon is revealed in the book of Revelation. And by the goddess high above my rocks Enshrined, by the moist banks that bend around The hallow'd lake by Triton form'd, no longer Will I conceal this bed, but ease my breast, The oppressive load discharged. Mine eyes drop tears, My soul is rent, to wretchedness ensnared By men, by gods, whom I will now disclose, Unkind betrayers of the beds they forced. O thou, that wakest on thy seven-string'd lyre Sweet notes, that from the rustic lifeless horn Enchant the ear with heavenly melody, Son of Latona, thee before this light Will I reprove. Thou camest to me, with gold Thy locks all glittering, as the vermeil flowers   And now my son and thine, ill-fated babe, Is rent by ravenous vultures; thou, meanwhile, Art to thy lyre attuning strains of joy. -881 O you, who cause a voice to sing -[melpo] from your seven-stringed lyre, a voice that lets lovely-sounding hymns peal forth in the rustic lifeless horn,

TABLE OF: GENESIS 1 IS THE "CREATION" OF THE JEWISH NATION AND GOD'S TIMELINE
JOHN 1 IS THE CREATION (PURCHASE) OF MESSIAH'S REST OR LIBERTY FROM CLERGY

THERE IS NO "US" INVOLVED IN THE "ALL" THAT WAS CREATED.	Parable fulfilled
Genesis 1:1 In the beginning GOD created the heaven and the earth. Genesis 1:6 And GOD SAID,    Said is H559 Amar: think or use speech Genesis 1:9 And GOD said, Let the waters Genesis 1:26 And GOD said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. Genesis 1:27 So GOD created man in HIS own image,	John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was GOD. John 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God. However, GOD made man in HIS image. Adam was a HE Image is h6754 tselem shade, make visible God's WORD is generated or begotten By God.  Jesus was not the pagan son of a pagan god who had sex with a mortal.
Genesis 1:2 And the earth was without form, [inanis] and void; and darkness [ignorance] was upon the face of the deep. [Pit, hell] And the Spirit [Breath] of God moved [aggitated]  upon the face of the waters.	John 1:3 All things were made by him;  [GOD]         and without GOD was not any thing made that was made.
Genesis 1:3 And GOD SAID, Let there be LIGHT: and there was light.    God created HIS LIGHT or HIS WORD.	John 1:4 In him [GOD] was life; and the life was the LIFE of men
Genesis 1:4 And GOD saw the LIGHT, that it was good:	John 1:5 And the LIGHT shineth in darkness;
and God divided the light from the darkness. tĕnē^brae 1. The darkness of night, night, IGNORANCE II. Trop., darkness, gloom, obscurity of the mind,  did not Repent lucem  B. Light, encouragement, help, succor: D. Light, illustration, elucidation: “historia testis temporum, lux veritatis E. That which enlightens, the source of illumination: RATIO (Regulative Principle]	And the darkness comprehended it not. tĕnē^brae 1. The darkness of night, night, IGNORANCE II. Trop., darkness, gloom, obscurity of the mind,  did not Repent Skot-ios , I. of persons, in the dark, in secret, secret, com-prĕhendo  apprehend; to comprehend, comprise A.  To comprehend by the sense of sight, to perceive, observe,  To comprehend something intellectually, to receive into one's mind, Katalambanō , 3. seize with the mind, comprehend, 4. accept,         Acts 2:41 Then they that gladly RECEIVED his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.
Genesis 1:5 And God called [addressed by name] the LIGHT Day,         and the darkness he called Night.         And the evening and the morning were the first day.	John 1:7 The same [John] came for a witness, to bear witness of the LIGHT, that all men through him might believe. John 1:8 He was not that LIGHT, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.
Genesis 1:6 And God SAID, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.	John 1:9 That was the true LIGHT, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. God created HIS LIGHT or HIS WORD.

THEOPHILUS AND TERTULLIAN USED "TRIAS" TO DEFINE REASON (LOGOS), BREATH AND ARTICULATE WORDS

Tertullian an inventor of trias: But, first, I shall discuss His essential nature, and so the nature of His birth will be understood. We have already asserted that God made the world, and all which it contains, by His Word, and Reason, and Power.  It is abundantly plain that your philosophers, too,  regard the Logos-that is, the Word and Reason-          as the Creator of the universe. [regulative principle] And we, in like manner, hold that the Word, and Reason, and Power, by which we have said God made all, have spirit as their proper and essential     substratum, in which the Word has in being to give forth utterances, and reason abides to dispose and arrange, and power is over all to execute. We have been taught that           He (reason) proceeds forth from God, and in that procession He is generated; so that He is the Son of God, and is called God from unity of substance with God. For God, too, is a Spirit. Even when the ray is shot from the sun, it is still part of the parent mass; the sun will still be in the           ray, because it is a ray of the sun- there is no division of substance,           but merely an extension. Thus Christ is Spirit OF Spirit, and God OF God, as light OF light is kindled. The material matrix remains entire and unimpaired, though you derive from it any number of shoots possessed of its qualities; so, too, that which has come forth out of God is at once God and the Son of God, and the two are one. In this way also, as He is Spirit of Spirit and God of God, He is made a second in manner of existence-in position, not in nature; and He did not withdraw from the original source,            but went forth. This ray of God, then, as it was always foretold in ancient times, descending into a certain virgin, and made flesh in her womb, is in His birth God and man united.

Campbell, Thomax, Trinity The relationship of Word to God was the same as the relationship of a word to a thought. And so this is the most common understanding among the church fathers. The the word is the SON of the speaker as FATHER then there is ot problem trying to sort out how a LITERAL son of god could be equal with the Father or of the same age. 1st. A word is a sign or representative of a thought or an idea,  and is the idea in an audible or visible form. It is the exact image of that invisible thought  which is a perfect secret to all the world until it is expressed. 2d. All men think or form ideas by means of words or images; so that no man can think without words or symbols of some sort. 3d. Hence it follows that the word and the idea which it represents,          are co-etaneous, or of the same age or antiquity. ........It is true the word may not be uttered or born          for years or ages after the idea exists, ........but still the word is just as old as the idea. 4th. The idea and the word are nevertheless distinct from each other, though the relation between them is the nearest known on earth. ........An idea cannot exist without a word,          nor a word without an idea. 5th. He that is acquainted with the word, is acquainted with the idea,          for the idea is wholly in the word. By putting together the above remarks on the term word,  we have a full view of what John intended to communicate. As a word is an exact image of an idea, so is "The Word" an exact image of the invisible God. As a word cannot exist without an idea, nor an idea without a word,         so God never was without "The Word,"          nor "The Word" without God; or as a word is of equal age, or co-etaneous with its idea,         so "The Word" and God are co-eternal. And as an idea does not create its word nor a word its idea; so God did not create "The Word," nor the "Word" God.

The Original Babylon "family" She is the original Babylonian Mother of Harlots. She arises again in Revelation 17. Here priests are speakers, singers, instrument players. The craftsmen are theater builders and stage managers in Greek theater which was religious. Any religious operative selling themselves as aids to God's Word are known as "parasites."  They are called sorcerers and WILL BE CAST ALIVE INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE



I will add more links and Donnie will add new material. In contrast, there is not a single passage in context which indicates that the Spirit OF God is another God.

The Trinity by Alexander Campbell and dozens of collected papers

http://www.pineycom.com/HsACTrin.html Donnie Cruz letter to Madison Church of Christ elders urging them not to fall into the idolatry of Musical Worship Teams.  Adding what is the "Abomination" in their holy place.  Their attendance went to a claimed 5,500 to less than a thousand.
Updated 10.18.22 Click Below

 

Deut. 18:14 For these nations, which thou shalt possess,
        hearkened unto observers of times,  and unto diviners:
        but as for thee, the Lord thy God hath not suffered thee so to do.
Deut. 18:15 The Lord [yhwh] thy God [elohim singular] will raise up
        unto thee a PROPHET
        from the MIDST of thee, of thy BRETHREN,
        LIKE unto ME; unto him ye shall hearken;
Deut. 18:16 According to all that thou desiredst of the Lord thy God
        in Horeb in the day of the assembly, saying,
        Let me not hear again the VOICE of the Lord my God,
        neither let me see this great FIRE any more, that I die not.

Acts 3:21 Whom the HEAVEN must receive
        until the times of restitution of all things,
        which God hath SPOKEN by the MOUTH
        of all his holy PROPHET since the world began.
Acts 3:22 For Moses truly said unto the fathers,
        A PROPHET shall the Lord your God RAISE up unto you
        OF your BRETHREN, LIKE unto me;
        him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you.
Acts 3:23 And it shall come to pass,
        that every soul, which will not hear that PROPHET,
        shall be destroyed from among the people.

1Tim. 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved,
        and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
1Tim. 2:5 For there is one God,
        and one mediator between God and men,
        the MAN Christ Jesus;
1Tim. 2:6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.

The Original Babylon "family" She is the original Babylonian Mother of Harlots. She arises again in Revelation 17. Here priests are speakers, singers, instrument players. The craftsmen are theater builders and stage managers in Greek theater which was religious. Any religious operative selling themselves as aids to God's Word are known as "parasites."  They are called sorcerers and WILL BE CAST ALIVE INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE.
     

http://www.pineycom.com/The.Spiritus.of.Divina.html Lectio-Divina or modern Wiccan traditions is known as Drawing down the Moon or Drawing down the Goddess (Adler, 1979). During classical times the ancient witches of Thessaly were reputed to control the moon. In the ritual of Drawing down the Moon the High Priestess of a coven attempts to achieve a state of trance and request that the Goddess, or Triple Goddess symbolised by the moon, enter her body and speak through her.

PROPHESYING AND JESUS MAKING THAT PROPHECY MORE CERTAIN.

The Prophetic Type by the Spirit OF Christ ISAIAH Dead Sea Scroll.

The Prophecy made more certain by Jesus Christ rejecting baptism is rejecting Jesus

19. [+of iniquity+] (16) Wash and make yourselves clean and turn away the evil of your habitual practices from before my eyes, stop doing evil. (17) Learn Isa 1:16 Wash you, make you clean; put away the evil of your doings from before mine eyes; cease to do evil;       Rachac (h7364) raw-khats'; a prim. root; to lave (the whole or a part of a thing): - bathe (self), wash (self).     Lavo:  luthron; strengthened in louō, 20. to do well, pursue judgement, bless the oppressed,       judge the orphan contend for the widow. (PP) 21. Please come and let us reason together says YHWH,      if your sins are like scarlet they shall be white as snow 22. if they be as red as crimson they shall be as wool. (       19) If you are obedient and you give heed then of the good of the Land [{you shall eat.}] 23. (20) BUT if you REFUSE and you REBEL you will be DEVOURED by the sword because the mouth of YHWH has said it. 24. (21) How is the faithful city become like a HARLOT, it was full of justice, righteousness lodged [{in her and now}] Corrupting the Word or selling learning at retail.

He that believeth AND is baptized shall be SAVED. Believeth pist-euô rely on a person, thing, or statement 2.COMPLY, hōs oukh hupeixōn oude pisteusōn legeis; II entrust something to another; to COMPLY Opposite. apisteō, Id.Tr.1228. He that BELIEVETH NOT shall be DAMNED. Apisteô to be apistos, and so, II. = apeitheô, to disobey, tini Hdt., attic: --absol. to be disobedient, refuse to comply Soph. OT 625 Creon [625] Are you resolved not to yield or believe? Oedipus No, for you persuade me that you are unworthy of trust. Soph. Trach. 1228 no, you, my son, must take her for your own. Consent! (peithou:) To disrespect (apistein) me in small matters destroys the greater favors (pisteusant) you have done. Apisteô II.  apeitheō, disobey,  to be disobedient, tois apistousin tade in these things, they refuse to comply,  to be faithless, to doubt that it could b

ANGELS-MUSICIANS-WINNOWING-BURNING
GOD ACTIVELY AND PERMISSIVELY SENDS ANGELS-EVANGELISTIS-WINNOWING-REAPING MUSICIANS

2Th. 2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 2Th. 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved 2Th. 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: Matt. 13:38 The field is the world;         the good SEED are the children of the KINGDOM;         but the tares are the children of the wicked one; Matt. 13:39 The enemy that sowed [dna] them is the DEVIL;         the harvest is the end of the world;  [Aion messianic Age]         and the REAPERS are the ANGELS Elders, if there be any APT are the only Pastor-Teachers of "That which has been taught" without any change because Scripture is the last will and Teatament (called Spirit Rev 19:10) Aggellō , God's godly angel or evangelists  keinois aggeilōsi . . oikonde neesthai may bring them word to return home, THIS IS AN ABSOLUTE MARK OF BEING A STUDENT OF CHRIST Rom. 10:15 And how shall they preach, except they be SENT?         as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them         that preach the gospel of peace,  [         [Not speaking your own words Isaiah.55.Word.Spirit.html]         and BRING glad tidings of good things! g2097.   euaggelizo, yoo-ang-ghel-id´-zo; from 2095 and 32; to announce good news (“evangelize”) especially the gospel: — declare, bring (declare, show) glad (good) tidings, preach (the gospel). You cannot make disciples of Christ by baptism unless you have preached the Gospel. 1Cor. 1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel:          not with wisdom of words,          lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect. g4678. sophia, sof-ee´-ah; from 4680; wisdom (higher or lower, worldly or spiritual): — wisdom. 4680. sophos, sof-os´; akin to σαφής saphes (clear); wise (in a most general application): — wise. Compare 5429. sophos , ē, on, A. skilled in any handicraft or art, clever, “mantis  Margites Fr.2; but in this sense mostly of poets and musicians, Pi.O.1.9, P.1.42, 3.113; en kithara s. glōssē s. Muthos   2. fiction (Opposite. logos, historic truth) Sophis-tês ,A. master of one's craft, adept, expert, of diviners, Hdt.2.49; of poets, “meletan sophistais prosbalon” Pi.I.5(4).28, cf. Cratin.2; of musicians, “sophistēs . . parapaiōn khelun” A.Fr.314, cf. Eup.447, Pl.Com. 140; sophistē Thrēki (sc. Thamyris) E.Rh.924, cf. Ath.14.632c: with modal words added, “hoi s. tōn hierōn melōn” 2. juggler, cheat, “deinos g. kai pharmakeus kai sophistēs” Pl.Smp.203d; “magos kai g.” Aeschin.3.137:  (religious melody: God does not speak to the wise or sophists Luke 10:21) God also sends or Thrust In Angels of Light. Jesus defined the sons of the Devil as DOING (rhetoric, music, scenic, Pay To Play) 2Th. 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: Th. 2:12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. 2Th. 2:13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord,         because God hath from the beginning chosen you         to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit Heb. 12:23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn,         which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all,          and to the spirits OF just men made perfect, [A holy  spirit=yours] Else you cannot read BLACK text on BROWN paper: Neither can you HEAR the word when it is PREACHED by being READ. 2 Corinthians 3. THEN you will understand that the Lord is that Spiri          and belief of the truth:         [Word, Logos Regulative Principle Opposite Rhetoric, Music Scenic:         delusion fraudulence; subjectively, a straying from orthodoxy or piety: God sends forth MUSICIANS meaning to make the lambs dumb before the slaughter. aggelos  Arabios a., of a loquacious person,  2.  generally, one that announces or tells, e.g. of birds of augury, Il.24.292,296; Mousōn aggelos,a. kai arkhaggeloi Mousōn   Dios aigiokhoio thugateres” Daughters whatever the sex led by Apollyon. “kanakhan . .gnashing of teeth, clanging brass, k. aulōn sound of flutes, of the lyre HH 3 185 To Pythian Apollo, Apollyon: Leto's all-glorious son goes to rocky Pytho, playing upon his hollow lyre, clad in divine, perfumed garments;         and his lyre, [185] at the TOUCH of the golden key, sings sweet. 2Th. 2:15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast,         and hold the traditions which ye have been taught,         whether by word, or our epistle.

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