Gregory.Thaumaturgus.On.The.Trinity

This Word created heaven and earth, and in Him were all things made. He is the arm and the power of God, never to be separated from the Father, in virtue of an indivisible nature

Gregory Thaumaturgus (wonder worker)

b. c. 213, Neocaesarea, Pontus Polemoniacus [now Niksar, Turkey]

d. c. 270, Neocaesarea; feast day November 17

A Declaration of Faith:

There is one God (Deity), the

Father of the living Word, who is His subsistent Wisdom and Power and Eternal Image: perfect Begetter of the perfect Begotten, Father of the only-begotten Son.

There is one Lord (Ruler),

Only of the Only, God of God, Image and Likeness of Deity, Efficient Word, Wisdom comprehensive of the constitution of all things, and Power formative of the whole creation, true Son of true Father, Invisible of Invisible, and Incorruptible of Incorruptible, and Immortal of Immortal and Eternal of Eternal.

And there is One Holy Spirit, having His subsistence from God, and being made manifest by the Son, to wit to men:

Image of the Son, Perfect Image of the Perfect; Life, the Cause of the living; Holy Fount; Sanctity, the Supplier, or Leader, of Sanctification; in whom is manifested God the Father, who is above all and in all, and God the Son, who is through all.

Invisible Deity rules as Lord. The Lord is manifest or made known through the Spirit which is the Words which Christ as Lord spoke:

It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. John 6:63

Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. 2 Cor 3:17

But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord. 2Co.3:18

For he whom God has sent utters the words of God,

for it is not by measure that he gives the Spirit John 3:34

NOW the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 1Ti.4:1

	Father
God (Deity) is	Son
	Spirit

There is a perfect Trinity, in glory and eternity and sovereignty,

neither divided nor estranged.

Wherefore there is nothing either created or in servitude in the Trinity; nor anything superinduced, as if at some former period it was non-existent, and at some later period it was introduced. And thus neither was the Son ever wanting to the Father, nor the Spirit to the Son; but without variation and without change, the same Trinity abideth ever.

Fragment from the Discourse.

Gregory Thaumaturgus, Bishop of Neo-Caesareia in Pontus, near successor of the apostles, in his discourse on the Trinity, speaks thus:-

I see in all three essentials-substance, genus, name.

We speak of man, servant, curator (curatorem),-man, by reason of substance; servant, by reason of genus or condition; curator, by reason of denomination.

We speak also of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit:

these, however, are not names which have only supervened at some after period,

but they are subsistences.

Gilbert of Poitiers: "An individual is that which cannot be further divided. Gilbert says that the "subsistences, by which things are, are not individuals.

Again, the denomination of man is not in actual fact a denomination, but a substance common to men, and is the denomination proper to all men.

Moreover, names are such as these,-Adam, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob: these, I say, are names.

But the Divine Persons are names indeed: and the names are still the persons; and the persons then signify that which is and subsists,-which is the essence of God.

The name also of the nature signifies subsistence; as if we should speak of the man. All (the persons) are one nature, one essence, one will, and are called the Holy Trinity; and these also are haines subsistent, one nature in three persons, and one genus.

But the person of the Son is composite in its oneness (unita est), being one made up of two, that is, of divinity and humanity together, which two constitute one.

Yet the divinity does not consequently receive any increment, but the Trinity remains as it was.

Nor does anything new befall the persons even or the names,

but these are eternal and without time.

No one, however, was sufficient to know these until the Son being made flesh manifested them, saying: "Father, I have manifested Thy name to men; glorify Thou me also, that they may know me as Thy Son." John xvii. 6. And on the mount the Father spake, and said, "This is my beloved Son." Matt. iii. 17.

And the same sent His Holy Spirit at the Jordan. And thus it was declared to us that there is an Eternal Trinity in equal honour.

Besides, the generation of the Son by the Father is incomprehensible and ineffable; and because it is spiritual, its investigation becomes impracticable: for a spiritual object can neither be understood nor traced by a corporeal object, for that is far removed from human nature. We men know indeed the generation proper to us, as also that of other objects; but a spiritual matter is above human condition, neither can it in any manner be understood by the minds of men.

Spiritual substance can neither perish nor be dissolved;

ours, however, as is easy to understand, perishes and is dissolved.

How, indeed, could it be possible for man, who is limited on six sides-by east, west, south, north, deep, and sky-understand a matter which is above the skies, which is beneath the deeps, which stretches beyond the north and south, and which is present in every place, and fills all vacuity?

But if, indeed, we are able to scrutinize spiritual substance, its excellence truly would be undone.

Let us consider what is done in our body; and, furthermore, let us see whether it is in our power to ascertain

in what manner thoughts are born of the heart,
and words of the tongue, and the like.

Now, if we can by no means apprehend things that are done in ourselves, how could it ever be that we should understand the mystery of the uncreated Creator, which goes beyond every mind? Assuredly, if this mystery were one that could be penetrated by man, the inspired John would by no means have affirmed this: "No man hath seen God at any time." John i. 18.

He then, whom no man hath seen at any time,-whom can we reckon Him to resemble, so that thereby we should understand His generation?

And we, indeed, without ambiguity apprehend that our soul dwells in us in union with the body;

but still, who has ever seen his own soul?

who has been able to discern its conjunction with his body? This one thing is all we know certainly, that there is a soul within us conjoined with the body.

Thus, then, we reason and believe that the Word is begotten by the Father, albeit we neither possess nor know the clear rationale of the fact.

The Word Himself is before every creature-eternal from the Eternal, like spring from spring, and light from light.

The vocable Word, indeed, belongs to those three genera of words which are named in Scripture, and which are not substantial,-namely,

the word conceived,

the word uttered, and

the word articulated.

The word conceived, certainly, is not substantial. The word uttered, again, is that voice which the prophets hear from God, or the prophetic speech itself; and even this is not substantial.

And, lastly, the word articulated is the speech of man formed forth in air (aere efformatus), composed of terms, which also is not substantial.

But the Word of God is substantial, endowed with an exalted and enduring nature,

and is eternal with Himself,

and is inseparable from Him,

and can never fall away,

but shall remain in an everlasting union.

This Word created heaven and earth, and in Him were all things made. He is the arm and the power of God,

never to be separated from the Father, in virtue of an indivisible nature, and, together with the Father, He is without beginning.

This Word took our substance of the Virgin Mary;

and in so far as He is spiritual indeed,
He is indivisibly equal with the Father;
but in so far as He is corporeal, He is in like manner inseparably equal with us.
And, again, in so far as He is spiritual,
He supplies in the same equality (aequiparat) the Holy Spirit, inseparably and without limit.

Neither were there two natures, but only one nature of the Holy Trinity before the incarnation of the Word, the Son; and the nature of the Trinity remained one also after the incarnation of the Son.

But if any one, moreover, believes that any increment has been given to the Trinity by reason of the assumption of humanity by the Word,

he is an alien from us, and from the ministry of the Catholic and Apostolic Church.

This is the perfect, holy, Apostolic faith of the holy God. Praise to the Holy Trinity for ever through the ages of the ages. Amen.

Gregory Thaumaturgus is consistent with all of the ancient theologians in never seeing the trinity as three separated beings. Rather, they are God manifesting Himself in His Word and Wisdom. God is manifested by Lord is represented by Spirit or word. In its original statement the word was not person but personae.

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