God's WORD is what God
breathed
(spirit inspiration) into Jesus so that He claimed that He
had no words nor authority other that that delegated to him
as the promised
SEED of Abraham an David.
Christ existed in prophecy and promise before Abraham.
Mark 12:29 And Jesus answered him,
The first of all
the commandments is, Hear, O Israel;
THE Lord our God is ONE LORD:
Mark 12:30 And thou shalt love THE Lord thy
God with all thy heart,
and with all thy
soul, and with all thy mind,
and with all thy
strength: this is the first commandment.
Mark 12:32 And the scribe said unto him,
Well, Master, thou
hast said the truth:
for there is ONE ELSE;
and there is NONE [absolute denial] other but HE:
Mark 12:33 And to love HIMSELF
with all the heart, and with all the understanding,
and with all the
soul, and with all the strength, and to love his
neighbour as himself,
is more than all
whole burnt offerings and sacrifices.
John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not;
for I AM not yet ascended
to MY FATHER:
but go to my BRETHREN, and say unto
them,
I ascend unto MY FATHER, AND YOUR Father;
and to MY God, and YOUR God.
1Tim. 2:5 For there is ONE GOD
and ONE
mediator [and Advocate or Holy
Spirit comforter 1 John 2)
between God and
men,
the MAN Christ Jesus;
James 2:19 Thou believest that there is ONE GOD
thou doest
well: the devils also believe, and tremble
Verbum or Logos is always what God speaks.
I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU SPEAK THE WORD, DO NOT
TELL JOKES, NOR SPEAK ABOUT YOURSELF!
Num. 3:51 And Moses gave the money of them that were
redeemed unto Aaron and to his sons,
according to the WORD
OF THE LORD, as the LORD commanded Moses.
Num. 4:45 These be those that were numbered of the
families of the sons of Merari,
whom Moses and Aaron
numbered
according to the WORD
OF THE LORD, by the hand of Moses
Num. 23:5 And the LORD put a WORD in
Balaam’s MOUTH,
and said, Return
unto Balak, and thus thou shalt speak.
Deut. 18:20 But the prophet,
which shall presume
to speak a word in my name,
which I have not
commanded him to speak,
or that shall speak
in the name of other gods,
even that prophet
shall die.
Jer. 10:1 Hear ye the WORD which the LORD
SPEAKETH unto you, O house of Israel:
Is. 2:3 And many people shall go and say,
Come ye, and let
us go up to the mountain of the LORD,
to the house of
the God of Jacob;
and he will TEACH US OF HIS WAYS
and we will walk in
his paths: [Narrow
Road, the WAY, Method or Pattern]
for out of Zion
shall go forth the law,
and the WORD OF THE LORD
from Jerusalem.
Is. 59:20 And the Redeemer shall come to Zion,
and unto them
that turn from transgression in Jacob, saith the LORD.
Is. 59:21 As for me, this is my covenant with them,
saith the LORD;
My SPIRIT that is upon
thee,
and my WORDS which I have PUT IN THY MOUTH.
SHALL NOT depart out of thy MOUTH,
nor out of the
mouth of thy seed,
nor out of the
mouth of thy seed’s seed, saith the LORD, from
henceforth and for ever.
1697. דָּבָר dabar, a
word; by implication, a matter (as spoken of) or
thing; adverbially, a cause:—act, advice, affair,
answer, x any such (thing), because of, book,
business, care, case, cause, certain rate, +
chronicles, commandment, x commune(-ication),
The Septuagint translation of the
Hebrew Bible into Greek
uses the terms Rhema and Logos as equivalents and uses both
for the Hebrew word Dabar, as the Word of God.
Verbum.
ERō,
whence eirō
and rhēma,
what is spoken or said; cf. Goth. vaurd; Germ. Wort;
Engl. word, a word; plur., words, expressions,
language, discourse, conversation,
etc. (cf.: vox, vocabulum).
D.
In eccl. Lat. as a translation of logos,
Orally, by word of mouth rhēma
, atos,
to,
(erō)
A. that which is said or spoken, word,
saying, 3.subject of speech, matter kata
rhēma
apaggeilai word
for word, Aeschin.2.122.
Logos
computation, reckoning
2. statement of a theory, argument,
ouk
emeu
alla
tou
l.
akousantas
prob. in Heraclit.50;
logon ēde
noēma
amphis
alētheiēs
discourse and reflection on reality,
IV. inward debate of
the soul, reflection, deliberation
Regulative and formative forces,
derived from the intelligible and operative
in the sensible universe,
John 6:63 It is the
SPIRIT that
quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing:
the WORDS
that I speak [rhēma]
unto you, they are SPIRIT, and
they are life
THE
WORDS OF GOD BECOMES FLESH BOTH VISUALLY AND
ORALLY WHEN JESUS SPEAKS GOD'S MESSAGE.
Luke 5:1 And it came to pass, that, as the people
pressed upon HIM
to HEAR the WORD
of GOD, he stood
by the lake of Gennesaret,
Luke 8:21 And he answered and said unto them,
My mother and my
BRETHREN are these
which HEAR
the WORD of GOD,
and do it.
Luke 11:28 But he said, Yea rather, blessed are they
that HEAR
the WORD of GOD,
and keep it
Acts 13:7 Which was with the deputy of the country,
Sergius Paulus, a prudent man;
who called for
Barnabas and Saul, and desired to HEAR
the WORD of GOD,
and
Acts 13:44 And the next sabbath day came almost
the whole city together to HEAR the WORD
of GOD,
THE WORD WAS WITH
GOD AND THE WORD WAS GOD: SCHOLAR'S COMMENTS
Q.and the WORD was with God, and the Word was God.
Note below: God
always has His WORD AND WISDOM with him.
SEVERAL BIBLE SCHOLARS USED THE
"TRIAS" WORD. THE GNOSTICS DENIED THAT GOD COULD USE A MAN
TO WORK HIS WILL.
Theophilus.Autolycus.II.html
Chapter IX.-The Prophet's Inspired by the Holy
Ghost.
But men of
God carrying
in them A holy spirit and becoming prophets, being inspired and
made wise by God, became God-taught, and holy, and righteous.
Wherefore they were
also deemed worthy of receiving this reward,
that they should become
instruments of God, and contain the wisdom that is from Him,
through which
wisdom they uttered both
what regarded the
creation of the world and all other things.
Chapter X.
And
first, they taught us with one consent that
God made all things out of nothing;
for nothing
was coeval with God: but
He being His own place, and wanting
nothing,
........and existing before the ages,
willed to make
man by whom
He might be
known;
........for him, therefore, He prepared the world.
........For he that is created is also
needy; but he that is uncreated stands in need of nothing.
God,
then, having His own Word internal within His own bowels,
........... begat Him, emitting Him
........... along with His own wisdom before all things.
He had
this Word
as a helper in the things that were
created by
Him, and by
Him He made all things.
He is called
"governing
principle"
[LOGOS], because He rules, and is Lord of
all things fashioned by Him.
He, then, being Spirit of God,
and governing principle, [Word or Logos]
and wisdom,
and power of the highest,
came
down upon the prophets,
and through
them spoke of the creation of the world and
of all other things. (
This was
the Spirit of Christ, 1 Peter 1:11;
Revelation 19:10)
For the
prophets were not when the world came into
existence,
BUT, the wisdom [Spirit in this
instance is Sophia] of God which was in
Him,
and
His holy Word which was always present with
Him.
Psa. 33:6 By the [1] WORD of
the LORD were the heavens made;
and
all the host of them by the [2] BREATH
[h7307 ruwach SPIRIT] of his [3] MOUTH.
Psa. 33:9 For he SPAKE, and it was
done; he COMMANDED, and it stood
fast.
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THE SECOND TO USE "TRIAS"
Tertullian.Praxeas.html
Not that this
distinction is of any practical moment.
For
although God had not yet sent out His Word,
He still
had Him within Himself,
both in company
with and
included
within His very Reason,
as He silently
planned and arranged within Himself
everything
which He was afterwards about to UTTER
through His Word.
Now, whilst He was
thus planning and arranging with His own
Reason,
He was actually
causing that to become Word
which He was dealing with in the way of Word
or Discourse.
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Tertullian an inventor of trias:
But, first, I shall discuss His essential nature,
and so the nature of His birth will be understood.
We have already asserted that
God made the world, and all which it
contains,
by His Word, and Reason, and Power.
It is abundantly plain that your
philosophers, too,
regard the Logos-that is, the Word and Reason-
as the Creator of the universe.
And we, in like
manner, hold that the Word, and Reason, and Power,
by which we have said God made all,
have spirit as their proper and essential
substratum,
In which the Word has in being to give forth utterances,
....and reason abides to dispose and arrange,
....and power is over all to execute.
We have been taught that He (reason) proceeds forth
from God,
and in that procession He is generated;
so that He is the Son of God,
and is called God from unity of substance with God. For God, too, is a Spirit.
Even when the ray
is shot from the sun,
....it is still part of the
parent mass; the sun will still be in the
ray, because it is a ray of the sun-
....there is no division of substance,
but merely an extension.
Thus Christ is
Spirit OF Spirit,
and God OF God, as light OF light is kindled.
The material matrix remains entire and unimpaired,
though you derive from it any number of shoots possessed of its qualities;
so, too, that which has come
forth out of God
is at once God and the Son of God, and the two are one. In
this way also, as He is Spirit of Spirit and God of God,
He is made a second in manner of existence-in position, not in nature;and He did not withdraw from the original source, but went forth.
This ray of God, then, as it was always
foretold in ancient times, descending into a certain virgin,
and made flesh in her womb,
....is in His birth God AND man united.
He is prophesied as emmanuel an eloyhin and not
JEHOVAH.
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Campbell,
Thomas, Trinity
The relationship of Word to God was the same as
the relationship
of a word to a thought.
And so this is the most common understanding among
the church fathers. The the word is the SON
of the speaker as FATHER
then there is a problem trying
to sort out how a LITERAL son of god could be
equal with the Father or of the same age.
1st.
A word is a sign or representative of a thought or an idea,
and is the idea in an audible or visible form.
It is the exact image of that invisible thought
which is a perfect secret to all the world until it is
expressed.
2d.
All men think or form ideas by means of words or images; so
that no man can think without words or symbols of some sort.
3d.
Hence it follows that the word and the idea which it represents,
are co-etaneous, or of the same age or antiquity.
........It is true the word may not be uttered or born
for years
or ages after the idea exists,
........but still the word is just as old as the
idea.
4th.
The idea and the word are nevertheless distinct from each other, though
the relation between them is the nearest known
on earth.
........An idea cannot exist without a word,
nor a word without
an idea.
5th.
He that is acquainted with the word, is acquainted with the idea,
for the
idea is wholly
in the word.
By
putting together the above remarks on the term
word,
we have a full view of what John intended to
communicate.
As a word
is an exact
image of an idea,
so is "The Word" an exact image of
the invisible God.
As
a word cannot exist without an idea, nor an idea without a word,
so God never was without "The Word,"
nor "The Word"
without God;
or
as a word is of equal
age, or
co-etaneous with its idea,
so "The Word" and God are co-eternal.
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JEHOVAH-ELOYHIN (Deut 6:4)
ALONE IS THE ETERNAL LIVING GOD.
In all of heaven and
earth, there is only one Divine Nature—the eternal God
(cf. Deut. 6:4; 1 Cor. 8:4). The Scriptures teach that
only 3 Persons share/possess this one Divine Nature:
THE SHEMA
Dt 6:4 Hear, O
Israel: The LORD [YHWH] our
God [Elohiym] is one LORD:
Dt 6:5 And thou
shalt love the LORD [YHWH] thy God [Elohiym] with all thine heart, and with
all thy soul, and with all thy might.
Dt 6:6 And these
words, which I command thee this day, shall
be in thine heart:
Dt 6:7 And thou shalt teach them diligently unto
thy children,
and shalt talk
of them when thou sittest in thine house, and
when thou walkest by the way,
and when thou liest
down, and when thou risest up.
Dt 6:8 And thou
shalt bind them for a sign upon thine hand, and
they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes.
Dt 6:9 And thou
shalt write them upon the posts of thy house, and on thy
gates.
Jesus confirmed the Shema to
permit only ONE god:
Mark 12:28 And one of the scribes
came, and having heard them reasoning together,
and perceiving that he had answered
them well, asked him,
Which is the first commandment of
all?
Mark 12:29 And Jesus answered him,
The first of all the
commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our
God is one Lord:
Mark 12:30 And thou shalt love
the Lord thy God with all thy heart,
and with all thy soul, and
with all thy mind, and with all thy strength:
this is the first commandment.
Mark 12:31 And the second is like,
namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
There is none other commandment greater
than these.
ANYONE WORSHIPED WAS LORD OR GOD
. THEREFORE:
Lord
g2961 1) he to whom a person or thing belongs,
about which he has power of deciding; master, lord
a) the possessor and disposer of a thing
1) the owner; one who has control of the person,
the master, c) this title is given to: God, the
Messiah
God
g2316 Theos 1) a god or goddess,
a general name of deities or divinities, a) God's
representative or viceregent. 1) of magistrates and
judges
THEREFORE:
Ex. 3:14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM:
and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of
Israel, I AM HATH SENT me unto you.
Ex. 3:15 And God said MOREOVER unto Moses, Thus
shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, The LORD
God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God
of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you:
this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto
all generations.
Because "god" or
elohim and theos can identify false gods--
God g2316 Theos 1) a
god or goddess, a general name of deities
or divinities, a) God's representative or
viceregent. 1) of magistrates and judges --
And because it took THREE
gods to make the usual pagan trinity,
If Jesus permitted a "trinity" in the original
Shema, then He is saying that there are three
GODS. But, that would make Jesus and
Moses liers.
Acts 4:10 Be it known unto you
all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the
name of Jesus Christ of
Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from
the dead, even by him doth this man stand here
before you whole.
Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other:
for there is none other name under
heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
Mark 12:32 And
the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said
the truth:
for there is one God; and
there is none other but he:
Heis (g1520) a cardinal number,
one, in opposition to many.
Mat 6:24 No man
can serve two masters [kurios]: for
either he will hate the one, and love the
other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise
the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
None other means none other.
He means He and not they. Him means
Him: you cannot love TWO Kurios or Lords.
Mark 12:33 And
to love him with all the heart, and
with all the understanding,
and with all the soul, and
with all the strength,
and to love his neighbour as himself,
is more than all whole burnt offerings and sacrifices.
Mark 12:34 And when Jesus saw that
he answered discreetly, he said unto him,
Thou art not
far from the kingdom of God.
And no man after that durst ask him
any question.
Because Jesus is the head of the church and king of the
kingdom, you cannot give just part of the authority to the
SON and be very close to the kingdom. Most divison
comes from people hearing the Spirit apart from Christ to
whom the Spirit belongs.
Dt 11:17 And then
the LORD'S [YHWH] wrath be kindled against you, and he
shut up the heaven, that there be no rain, and
that the land yield not her fruit; and lest ye perish
quickly from off the good land which the LORD [YHWH] giveth you.
Dt 11:18 Therefore
shall ye lay up these my words in your heart
and in your soul,
and bind them for
a sign upon your hand, that they may be as
frontlets between your eyes.
DID GOD COME IN THE
FLESH THE GODHEAD COL 2:9