John Mark Hicks Renee Sproles Prophesying Women
Many examples show
that when the WORSHIP TEAM--even male--show up to perform
"worship". the PERSONA is so ingrained in godly the flee and
never return. Madison church began with about 5500 members
to about 500 actually in attendance. They never catch on and
still have an embarassing 'worship' leader. Sooner or
later almost all of the original members are replaced by a
frantic, cult-like discipling
dilemma
David.Young.The.Discipling.Dilemma.html
Mark 13:14 But when ye shall see the
abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet,
standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth
understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the
mountains:
WHY YOU CAN'T
BE A RICH AND FAMOUS RELIGIONISTS.
Matt. 24:9 Then shall they deliver you
up to be afflicted, and shall kill you:
and ye shall be hated
of all nations for my name’s sake.
Matt. 24:10 And then shall many be offended,
and shall betray one
another, and shall hate one another.
Matt. 24:11 And many FALSE
PROPHETS shall rise, and shall deceive
many.
pseudo-prophētēs
,
ou,
ho,
A.
false, lying prophet, J.AJ9.6.6,
al.,
2 Ep.Pet.2.1,
Ph.2.343, etc.
2 Peter 2.1
But there also arose false prophets among the
people, as among you also there will be false teachers,
who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, denying
even the Master who bought them, bringing on themselves
swift destruction.
apōleia
, connected to Apollyon leader of the LOCUSTS or his
Musical Worship Team
prophēt-euō
A.
to be a prophētēs or interpreter
of the gods, “manteueo, Moisa,
prophateusō d' egō” A.one
who speaks for a god and interprets his will to
man,
Dios
p.
interpreter, expounder of the will of Zeusesp. of
the Delphic
APOLLON, “
Dios
p.
esti
Loxias
patros”
A.Eu.19;
of the
minister and
interpreter at
Delphi
“
Dios
1. of goddesses, “
dia
thea”
10.290;
more freq.
dia
theaōn
“
daimona
dion”
Hes.Th.991.
[1] MUSICIANS
stugeros
A .hated,
abominated, loathed, or hateful,
abominable, loathsome
mousa
music, song, “m. stugera kanakhan
.
[2] MUSICIANS
“adein
[singers are] adokimon mousa
adokimon
disreputable,
discredited, reprobate,
[3] MUSICIANS
They
are FROM Aidēs”
Haidēs
Aidao
domoisi
in the nether
world to the nether world, 2. place
of departed spirits
Matt. 24:12 And because INIQUITY shall abound,
the love of many shall
wax cold.
Iniquity: autonomias . A. freedom to use its
own laws, independence, Th.3.46,
X.HG5.1.36,
Isoc.9.68,
3. dogmatism, Olymp.in Mete.151.21.
Poi-ētikos
, ē,
on,
A.capable of making, creative, productive, opp.
praktikos
(active
2. of persons, inventive, ingenious, “p.
kai
mousikoi”
Id.Lg.802b,
Id.Lg.802b,
For this purpose we shall call in the advice of poets and
musicians, and make use of their poetical ability, without,
however, trusting to their tastes or their wishes,
Plat. Laws 700d
there arose as leaders of unmusical illegality poets who,
though by nature poetical, were ignorant of what was just and
lawful in music; and they, being frenzied and unduly possessed
by a spirit of pleasure, mixed dirges with hymns and paeans
with dithyrambs, and imitated flute-tunes with harp-tunes, and
blended every kind of music with every other
Women who exercise authority or
AUTHENTIA Authent-ēs
A. murderer, Hdt.1.117,
E.Rh.873,
Th.3.58;
“tinos”
E.HF1359,
A.R.2.754;
suicide, Antipho 3.3.4,
D.C.37.
THY ARE SOUL DESTROYERS.
Matt. 24:13 But he that shall endure
unto the end, the same shall be saved.
Matt. 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom [The Church of Christ, internal,
silent, secret]
shall be preached in
all the world
FOR A WITNESS UNTO ALL NATIONS;
and then shall the end
come.
Matt. 24:15 When ye therefore
shall see the abomination of desolation, s
spoken of by Daniel
the prophet, stand in the holy place,
(whoso readeth, let
him understand:)
Matt. 24:16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into
the mountains:
Matt. 13:41 The Son of man shall send
forth his angels,
and they shall gather
out of his kingdom all things that offend,
and them which DO
iniquity;
Matt. 13:42 And shall cast them
into a furnace of fire:
there shall be wailing
and gnashing of teeth.
Matt. 13:43 Then shall the righteous
shine forth as the sun
in the kingdom of their Father.
Who hath ears to hear,
let him hear.
CLICK: JEREMIAH: SONG
REPEATS ARE LADED BURDENS JESUS OUTLAWED. They are INTENDED TO
SILENCE The Direct command to SPEAK THAT WHICH IS WRITTEN FOR
OUR LEARNING. That is the fulfillment of prophey. Jesus
said that those who speak their own words are the sons of the
Devil.
The claim to prophesy as well as claiming The Holy Spirit as
your authority is psychological violence, daring anyone to
question your authority. That is a symptom of being OF
this world and not just pilgrims and sojourners resting in the
Church as Safe House unless invaded.
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IT IS IMPORTANT THAT, BY DEFINITION, THEOLOGIANS ARE CALLED
'MYTHOLOGISTS' IN THE GREEK CIVILIZED WORLD. THEREFORE, BY
DENYING GOD'S RIGHT TO COMMUNICATE BY 'COMMANDS, EXAMPLES AND
INFERENCES' THEIR THEOLOGY IS PERSONAL OPINION.
THE SCRIPTURE PEOPLE BELIEVE THAT THOSE 'OF THE WORLD' FOR WHOM
JESUS DIDN'T PRAY, ARE UNABLE TO READ BLACK TEXT ON BROWN PAPER. THE "APPARENT"
CONTRADITION, HICKS INFORMS ME, IS BECAUSE I DO NOT UNDER THE
'SHIFT' WHICH HAPPENED BY THEM THEIR UNIVERSITIES.
SPIRIT (never a god) is always in the form: God put His WORD
into the mouth of Moses, Elijah (prophets) and in the LAST DAYS
CHURCH the mouth of Jesus.
The prophets defined the future REST of Messiah both
inclusively and exclusively. Ezekiel was inspirit when 'God put
His WORD into Ezekiel's MOUTH-the meaning of spirit'
> Jer. 7:22 For I spake
not unto your fathers,
nor commanded them in
the day that I brought them out of the land of Egypt,
concerning burnt
offerings or sacrifices
> But this thing commanded I them, saying,
Obey my voice, and I will be your God, and ye shall be my
people:
and walk ye in all the ways that
I have commanded you,
that it may be well unto you.
Jeremiah 7:23
> But they HEARKENED NOT, nor inclined their ear,
but walked in the counsels
and in the imagination of
their evil heart,
and went backward, and not forward.
Jeremiah 7:24
Thus saith the Lord, After
this manner will I mar the pride of Judah,
and
the great pride of Jerusalem.
Jer 13:9
This
evil people, which refuse to hear
my words,
........which walk in the imagination
of their heart, [twisted]
........and walk after other gods, to serve
them,
........and to worship them, shall even be as
this girdle, which is good for nothing. Jer 13:10
AT LIPSCOMB: Walter.Brueggeman.Imagination.Theology.html
Jer 23:16 Thus saith the Lord of hosts,
Hearken not unto
the words of the PROPHETS that prophesy unto you;
they make you vain:
they
speak a vision of their own heart,
and not out of the mouth of the Lord.
Holy Scripture
beginning with EVE and the SERPENT (musical enchanter) and
including all historical scholars, Church is APOSTOLIC as
the only reason to call yourself Christian. The CLAIM and
act out in the never-commanded 'worship system' to be
'Standing in their holy places claiming to be God."
However, the olden God informed 'sons from God taught by
God' that they are only a small band of lost spirits
IN the world but not OF this World.
Homer,
Odyssey
1:[1] Tell me, O Muse, of
the man of many devices, who wandered full many ways after he had sacked the sacred
citadel of Troy. Many were the men whose cities he saw and
whose mind he learned, aye, and many the woes he
suffered in his heart upon the sea
- Pi.N.7.81 Pindar, Nemean Odes 7
The rich man and the poor man alike travel
together to the boundary of death. [20] And I expect that the
story of Odysseus came to exceed his experiences, through the
sweet songs of Homer
[22] since there is a certain solemnity in his lies and winged artfulness,
and poetic skill
deceives, seducing us with stories,
and the heart of the mass of men is blind.
For if [25] they had been able to see the
truth, then mighty Aias, in anger over the arms, would never
have planted in his chest the smooth sword—Aias, who was the
most powerful in battle,
Mousa
= “Montia,
Monsa”,
from root “men”,
‘to think.’ In l. 10 the muse
is called “thugater
Dios”,
as in Il. 2. 491 “Olumpiades
Mousai,
Dios
aigiokhoio
thugateres”
. They are represented as nine in number in Od. 24. 607,
but their names are first given in Hesiod.
Poetic Skill: sophia
, Ion. -iē,
hē,
prop. A.cleverness or skill in handicraft
and art in music and singing, tekhnē
kai s.
h.Merc.483,
cf. 511; in
poetry, in divination, dēmēgorikos
from dēmēgoros
Deceives: kleptō
, thievish
disguise, diabolais
neais
do secretly or treacherously. doloisi
k. sphagas
execute slaughter by secret frauds,
Diabolais
remove, create prejudice against an antagonist
IV. fraud, Sch.
Ar.Pl. 373.
Chremylus Ah! I know the tune you are
playing now; you think I have stolen, [370] and want your
share.
THANKS FOR INVITING ARMAGEDDON
Rev. 16:13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out
of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast,
and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
Rev. 16:14 For they are the spirits of devils [New
Hermeneutics],
working miracles, which go
forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world,
to gather them to the battle
of that great day of God Almighty.
Rev. 16:15 Behold, I come as a thief.
Blessed is he that
watcheth, and keepeth his garments,
lest he walk naked, and
they see his shame.
Rev. 16:16 And he gathered them together
into a place called in the
Hebrew tongue Armageddon
g717. Ἀρμαγεδδών Armageddon, ar-mag-ed-dohn´; of
Hebrew origin (H2022 and H4023); Armageddon (or Har-Meggiddon),
a symbolic name: — Armageddon.
THE 'ELDER'S VISION' CLEARLY INTENDS TO SILENCE JESUS AND, AS A
NEW DAY CHURCH,"USING" WOMEN AS SINGER-PRIMARY MISSTEACHERS,
CALLS SCRIPTURE A LIE AND DOES--IN FACT--INTEND TO KEEP PEOPLE
IGNORANT AND "FORGET GOD'S NAME." JEREMIAH, INTO WHOM
GOD PUT HIS MOUTH (THE MEANING OF SPIRIT), PROPHESIED WHAT JESUS
WAS SENT TO 'MAKE PERFECT' THAT THE EARTH-BORN [NOT SONS FROM
GOD TAUGHT BY GOD] WOULD STOP THE MOUTH OF JESUS.
Ezek. 37:3 And he said unto me,
Son of man, can these
bones live?
And I answered, O Lord
GOD, thou knowest.
Ezek. 37:4 Again he said unto me,
PROPHESY
upon these bones,
and say unto them, O
ye dry bones,
hear
the word of the LORD.
Ezek. 37:5 Thus saith the Lord GOD unto these bones;
Behold, I will cause BREATH [h737 ruwach Spirit]
to enter into you, and ye shall
LIVE:
Ezek. 37:6 And I will lay sinews upon you,
and will bring up
flesh upon you, and cover you with skin,
and put breath in you,
and ye shall live;
and
ye shall KNOW that I am the LORD.
Ezek. 37:9 Then said he unto me, PROPHESY unto the
wind,
prophesy, son of
man, a
and say to the wind, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Come
from the four winds, O breath, and breathe upon these slain,
that they may live.
Ezek. 37:10 So I prophesied as he commanded me,
and the breath came into
them, and they lived, and stood up upon their feet,
an exceeding great army.
Ezek. 37:11 Then he said unto me,
Son of man, these bones
are the whole house of Israel:
behold, they say, Our
bones are dried, and our hope is lost: we are cut off for our
parts
JOHN MARK HICKS
SPEAKING OF RENEE SPROLES PROPHESYING:
John Mark Hicks:
Paul says, “man is the head of woman.” I affirm
that. The question is, what does Paul mean? What is
the meaning of his metaphorical use of “head”? Whatever
it means, Paul affirms women who pray
and prophesy in the assembly as long as their own heads are
covered.
1Cor. 11:14 Doth not even nature itself
teach you,
that, if a man
have long hair, it is a shame unto him?
1Cor. 11:15 But if a woman have long hair,
it is a glory to
her: for her hair is given her for a covering.
1Cor. 11:16 But if any man seem to be contentious,
we have no
such custom,
neither
the churches of God.
1Cor. 11:17 Now in this that I declare unto you I praise
you not,
that ye come
together not for the better, but for the worse.
WITH A VEIL, HAT OR LONG HAIR, WOMEN ARE
FORBIDDEN TO SPEAK IN THE ASSEMBLY:
FIRST:
unknown either by Hicks or Sproles any epistle or writings
must be READ
SECOND: any
PROPHET gifted by Christ would be able to SPEAK BY
INSPIRATION
what Jesus had taught. Prophesying is
primarily what the prophet had learned.
THIRD: God
sent Apostles, Prophets and Scribes.
FOURTH: A
prophet or language speaker or translator must be ordained
by an Apostles hands.
SIXTH:
No disciple, male or female, would LUST to speak their own
songs or sermons.
SEVENTH: God
broke the knee caps of desperately seekers by providing NO
FUNDS.
Especially in Corinth people would be
aware of the women serving as oracles in the temples of
Apollo or Apollyon in Corinth at just up the mountain at
Delphi where women were the oracles when driven into mad
chatter by drugs or music.
There is no reason that John Mark Hicks,
or any 'theologians, should have any idea:
căpŭt (kăp-căpud ), ĭtis (
“quot capitum vivunt, totidem studiorum Milia,” Hor. S. 2, 1, 27;
souls, Caes. B. G. 1, 29; 4,
15: “quot capitum vivunt, totidem studiorum Milia,” Hor. S. 2, 1, 27; id.
Ep. 2, 2, 189; cf. id. C. 1, 28, 20 al.; so, in capita, in
distribution, to or for
each person (
2. The
first or chief
person or thing, the head, leader, chief, guide (very
freq.).
“litterarum,” summary, purport, substance, id. Phil. 2, 31, 77: “caput Epicuri,” the fundamental
principle, dogma,id. Ac. 2, 32, 101; cf. Quint. 3, 11, 27: rerum, the chief or central point, head, Cic. Brut. 44, 164
Like modern opinionated clergy, women,
especially women, went around prophesying or SINGING their
message from God.
John Mark Hicks to Renee Sproles:
This is not a major concern of mine in
this book because whatever headship means, it does
not delimit woman from audibly and visibly participating
in the assembly, according to 1
Corinthians 11:2-16.
Sproles and I agree that
Paul authorizes women to audibly and visibly pray
and prophesy i
In the worshipping
assemblies of Corinth
Paul had to SEE Jesus of Nazareth as blinding light and HEAR
the voice of His MOUTH.
A temporary prophet had to be ordained by the HANDS of an
APOSTLE.
There need to be only ONE gifted prophet:
1Cor. 12:10 To another the working of
miracles; to ANOTHER prophecy; to another
discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues;
to another the interpretation of tongues:
There is no Biblical or historical evidence that anyone in
Corinth had such a gift: Paul uses irony. Not all have the gift,
DO THEY? IN 1 Timothy 2 Paul wants male and female to be silent/
1Tim. 2:4 Who will have all
men to be saved,
and to come unto the
knowledge of the truth.
1Tim. 2:5 For there is ONE GOD
and one mediator [Comforter, Intercessor, Rabbi]
between God and men,
the man Christ Jesus;
1Tim. 2:6 Who gave himself a ransom for all,
to be TESTIFIED in due time.
John Mark Hicks and David Young and
all of Renee's teachers call that a lie!
Rev. 19:10 And I fell at his
feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it
not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren
that have the
testimony of Jesus:
worship God:
for the TESTIMONY of Jesus IS
the spirit of prophecy.
1Cor. 14:30 If any thing be REVEALED
to another that sitteth by, let the first hold his peace.
1Cor. 14:32 And the spirits of the
prophets are subject to the prophets.
1Cor. 14:33 For God is not the AUTHOR
OF CONFUSION,
but of peace, as
in all churches of the saints.
1Cor. 14:34 Let your women keep silence in the
churches:
for it is not
permitted unto them to speak;
but they are
commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the
law.
1Cor. 11:13 Judge
in yourselves:
is it comely that a
woman pray unto God uncovered? [unveiled]
1Cor. 11:14 Doth not even NATURE itself teach you,
that, if a man have
long hair, it is a shame unto him?
1Cor. 11:15 But [nature teaches]
if a woman have long hair,
it is a glory to her:
for her hair is given her for a covering.
HAIR IS NOT THE COVERING FOR ANY ONE WHO
PROPHESIES IN THE SENSE OF "TEACHING THE REVEALED WORD BY
INSPIRATION." THEREFORE, NEITHER LONG HAIR NOR A VEIL
PERMITS HER TO USURP HER HUSBANDS, OFTEN EDUCATED IN
SYNAGOGUE SCHOOLS, BUT NOW THE HOLY SCRIPTURE.
1Cor. 11:16 BUT, if
any man seem to be contentious,
we have no such
custom,
neither the churches
of God.
There is NO Covering such as, "The Senior Pastor gave me
authority." .
READERS WILL UNDERSTAND THAT PAUL IS WARNING AGAINST WOMEN
"JUST OUT OF PAGANISM" WHERE THEY HAD BEEN THE ORACLES:
Oracle, (Latin oraculum from orare,
“to pray,” or “to speak”), divine communication delivered in response
to a petitioner’s request; also, the seat of prophecy
itself. Oracles were a branch of divination
but differed from the casual pronouncements of augurs
by being associated with a definite person or
place
Because women and wannabe male have no
intention of speaking the oracles from God, Peter
includes:
1Pet. 4:11 If any
man speak, let him speak as the oracles of God;
BUT: If any man
minister, let him do it as of the ability which God giveth:
that God in all things
may be glorified throuIgh Jesus Christ,
to whom be PRAISE
and dominion for ever and ever. Amen
PAUL IS NOT SPEAKING OF "IN THE ASSEMBLY"
1Cor. 11:17 Now in
this that I declare unto you I praise you not,
that ye come
together not for the better, but for the worse.
1Cor. 11:18 For first of all, when ye come together in the
church,
I hear that there be
divisions among you; and I partly believe it.
1Cor. 11:19 For there must be also heresies among you,
that they which are
approved may be made manifest among you..”
CIRCE from which we get the word CHURCH was the model of
the holy harlot (Rev 17). She uses lusted after "fruits"
as her worship team. In Rev 18 the singers, instrument
players and craftsmen (theater builders and stage
managers) are SORCERES led by APOLLYON. There are marked
to be cast alive into the lake of
fire
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Women in
ancient Greece led largely domestic lives.
They were excluded from public life with one
fundamental exception — religion. Women often played an important part
in religious festivals and the worship of various
deities. Priestesses were also common in a range of
cults across the pantheon of Greek gods and goddesses.
But perhaps the most prestigious and powerful of all
priestesses was the Pythia of Apollo
[APOLLYON]
The Pythia held a unique
position in ancient Greek religion. Ancient sources
use the following terms to describe her: hiereia
(priestess), mantis (seer), and prophetis
(prophet).
The nine
muses lived on Mount Helicon, and they often
accompanied the god Apollo,
whose domain often overlapped with the Muses. He
presided over concepts such as Music, Light,
Eloquence, Poetry, and the Sun.
Hes.
Th. 1
From the Heliconian Muses let us begin
to sing, who hold the great and holy mount of Helicon,
and dance on soft feet about the deep-blue spring and
the altar of the almighty son of Cronos,
25] the Muses of Olympus,
daughters of Zeus who holds the aegis: “Shepherds
of the wilderness,
wretched things
of shame, mere bellies,
we know how to
speak many false things as though they
were true;
but we know, when we will, to
utter true things.”
...and they bade me sing of the race of
the blessed gods that are eternally,
but ever to
sing of themselves both first and last.
pharma^kon 3.
enchanted potion, philtre: hence, charm,
spell, Od.4.220
sq., Ar.Pl.302,
[Circe, Church, Corinth mother of harlots] Theoc.2.15
The singers [Muses], instrument players and craftsmen
as sorcerers in Revelation 18.
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When the crowd saw
what Paul had done, they shouted in the Lycaonian
language, "The gods have come down to us in human form!" Acts
14:11
Barnabas they called
Zeus, and Paul they called Hermes
(Mercury) because he was the chief
speaker. Acts 14:12
The priest of Zeus, whose temple was just outside the city,
brought bulls and wreaths to the city gates because he and the
crowd wanted to offer
sacrifices to them. Acts 14:13
PAUL HAD ALREADY ENCOUNTERED SUCH A PROPHETESS
Acts 16:16 And it came to pass, as we
went to prayer,
a certain damsel
possessed with a spirit of divination met us,
which brought her
masters much gain by soothsaying:
spiritum pythonem
Pȳtho Pythian: “Apollo,”
Liv.
5, 21: “oraculum,”
id.
5, 15: “sortes,”
id.
5, 23: “divinatio,”
Val. Max. 1, 8, 10: “agon,”
Pythian,
Delphic, Apollonian: Puthia,
the priestess who uttered the responses of the Delphic
Apollo, the Pythoness Pythia
cantat Tibicen,”
“Thessalicae
veniunt
ad
Pythia
laurus,
cantat To
produce melodious sounds (by the voice or an
instrument), to sound, sing, play Of
an actor: “cantante
eo
(Nerone)
“tibiis,
[flute] tubă
[war trumpet] “calamo,
A reed-pipe, reed to sing and play
while the actor accompanies the song with gestures or
dancing,
“in
caelo
cantatur
et
psallitur,
C. Transf., of instruments, to
sound, resound: “pastoris
bucina
cantat,”
Prop. 4 (5), 10, 30. “cantabat
fanis,
cantabat
tibia
ludis,
A. With the song itself, carmen, versus,
etc., as object, to sing, play, recite:
“carmina
non
prius
Audita
canto,”
Acts 16:17 The
same followed Paul and us, and cried, saying,
These men are
the servants of the most high God,
which shew unto
us the way of salvation.
Acts 16:18 And
this did she many days.
But Paul, being
grieved, turned and said to the spirit,
I command
thee in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her.
And he came out
the same hour.
Acts 16:19 And when her masters saw that the hope
of their gains was gone,
they caught Paul
and Silas, and drew them into the marketplace unto the
rulers,
Paul calls them "the mad women of
Corinth." An uncovered woman denied any HEADSHIP beyond
the "gods" who spoke mostly through women.
Rom. 12:5 So we, being many, are one body
in Christ, and every one members one of another.
Rom. 12:6 Having then GIFTS differing according to the
grace that is given to us,
whether prophecy, let us
prophesy ACCORDING TO THE PROPORTION
OF FAITH
gift of interpreting
the will of the gods, gift of prophecy
Rom. 10:17 So then faith cometh
by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
Gal. 3:2 This only would I learn of you,
Received ye the Spirit
by the works of the law,
or by the HEARING
of faith?
prophēt-euō II.
expound, interpret, preach, under the influence
of the Holy Spirit, Ev.Luc.1.67,
Ev.Jo.11.51,
Act.Ap.2.17,
19.6, 1 Ep.Cor. 11.4,
13.9,
[18] This charge I commit to you, my child Timothy, according to
the prophecies which led the way to you, that by them you may
wage the good warfare
Rom. 12:7 Or ministry, let us wait on our
ministering: or he that teacheth, on teaching;
"This is the first mention in the OT of
a band of PROPHETS. These were men who went about in
companies and were able by means of music and dancing to work
themselves up into a convulsive and ecstatic
frenzy (2 Ki. 3:1-10).
Their abnormality was believed to be
caused by the invasive
influence of the spirit of god. The word
prophesied here does not mean either foretelling the
future or preaching after the manner of the later
prophets,
but engaging in the ritual dance of
the prophetic guild (19:18-24). Their behavior was
commonly regarded as a form of madness (2 Ki. 9:11;
Jer. 29:26)" (The Int. Bible Ency., I Sam. p. 932).
Luke 10:22 All things are delivered to me
of my Father:
and no man knoweth who
the Son is, but the Father;
and who the Father is,
but the Son,
and he to whom the
Son will reveal him.
Only
one gifted by Christ to prophesy could possibly be
rational and claim that Jesus gave him or her such a gift.
John 8:28 Then said Jesus unto
them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye
know that I am he,
and that I do
nothing of myself;
but as my Father
hath TAUGHT me, I SPEAK these things.
John 8:29 And he that sent me is with me:
the Father hath not
left me alone;
for I do always
those things that please him.
John 8:30 As he SPAKE these words, many believed on him.
John 8:31 Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on
him,
IF ye continue in my word, THEN are ye my disciples
indeed;
John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall
make you free.
PROPHESYING IN CORINTH WAS CLEARLY BY MEN WHO HAD THE GIFT OF
CHRIST TO SPEAK THE WORD BY INSPIRATION,
If Genesis
1 teaches a shared vocation and identity, and Genesis
2 teaches complementarity with differentiation without
hierarchy, then servant leadership is mutual.
Paul
affirms this mutuality rather than excluding women from
participation in the assembly (1 Corinthians 11:11-12). Godly
male leadership is present across the testaments and so is
godly female leadership
(Miriam led the
congregation in worship,
Deborah judged Israel, Huldah proclaimed the word
of the Lord to the king’s representatives and the High
Priest, and Esther instituted a new festival and commanded
Israel to keep it).
prophēt-euō , II.
expound, interpret, preach, under the influence of
the Holy Spirit, Ev.Luc.1.67,
Ev.Jo.11.51,
Act.Ap.2.17,
19.6, , 13.9
1Cor. 14:29 Let the prophets
speak two or three, and let the other judge.
1Cor. 14:30 If any thing be REVEALED to another that
sitteth by, let the first hold his peace.
1Cor. 14:31 For ye may all prophesy one by one,
THAT
ALL MAY LEARN AND ALL MAY BE COMFORTER
1Cor. 14:32 And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the
prophets.
1Cor. 14:33 For God is not the AUTHOR
OF CONFUSION,
but of peace, as in all
churches of the saints.
1Cor. 14:34 Let your women keep silence in the
churches:
for it is not permitted
unto them to speak;
but they are commanded
to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
FIRST EXAMPLE
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Num. 12:2 And they said, Hath the LORD
indeed spoken only by Moses?
hath he not spoken
also by us?
And the LORD
heard it.
Num. 12:6 And he said, Hear now my
words:
IF
there be a prophet among you,
I the LORD will make myself
known unto him in a vision,
and will speak unto
him in a dream.
Num. 12:7 My servant Moses is not so, who is faithful in all
mine house.
Num. 12:8 With him will I speak mouth to mouth,
even apparently, and
not in dark speeches;
and the similitude
of the LORD shall he behold:
wherefore then were ye
not afraid to speak against my servant Moses?
Num. 12:9 And the anger of the LORD was kindled against
them; and he departed.
Num. 12:10 And
the cloud departed from off the tabernacle;
and, behold,
Miriam became leprous, white as snow:
and Aaron looked
upon Miriam, and, behold, she was leprous.
SECOND EXAMPLE
2Cor. 11:3 But I fear, lest by any means,
as the serpent
beguiled Eve through his subtilty,
so your minds
should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in
Christ.
1John 3:12 Not as Cain, who was OF
[out of] that
wicked one,
and slew his brother.
And wherefore slew he him?
Because his own
works were evil, and his brother’s righteous.
Matt. 13:38 The field is the
world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but
the tares are the children of the wicked one
1Cor. 14:35 And if they will LEARN any thing, let them ask
their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak
in the church.
1Cor. 13:8 Charity never
faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall
fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease;
whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.
1Cor. 13:9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.
1Cor. 13:10 But when that which is perfect is come, then
that which is in part shall be done away.
WOMEN WHO STILL CLAIM TO PROPHESY ARE
DEFINED
prophēt-euō A.
to be a prophētēs
or interpreter of the gods, “manteueo,
Moisa, prophateusō
d'
egō”
A.one who speaks for a god and
interprets his will to man, Dios
p.
interpreter, expounder of the will of Zeusesp. of the
Delphic APOLLON, “Dios
p. esti
Loxias
patros”
A.Eu.19;
of the minister and interpreter at Delphi
“Dios
1. of goddesses, “dia thea”
10.290; more
freq. dia theaōn
“daimona
dion”
Hes.Th.991.
[1] MUSICIANS stugeros A .hated, abominated, loathed,
or hateful, abominable, loathsome
mousa
music, song, “m.
stugera kanakhan .
[2] MUSICIANS
“adein [singers
are] adokimon mousa
adokimon
disreputable,
discredited, reprobate,
[3]
MUSICIANS
They
are FROM Aidēs”
Haidēs
Aidao
domoisi
in the nether
world to the nether world, 2. place
of departed spirits,
John Mark Hicks thinks that "limited participation" is a new
view. Rather, he repudiates holy scripture and demands FULL
PARTICIPATION.
John Mark Hicks
to Renee Sproles: The
interpretations offered for “limited participation” are
new interpretations. They are neither ancient nor
traditional. In other words, few understood these
texts as permitting “limited participation” in a
worshipping assembly until the last 150 years or so. Perhaps
outside pressures influenced and moved people to create a new
interpretation that is now called “soft complementarianism.”
That highlights the difficulty in understanding these texts,
whether or not limited participation is correct. I don’t think, however, the “limited
participation” view is the best understanding of 1 Timothy
2:12.
If Genesis 1 teaches
a shared vocation and identity, and Genesis 2 teaches
complementarity with differentiation without hierarchy,
then servant leadership is mutual.
Paul
affirms this mutuality rather than excluding women from
participation in the assembly (1 Corinthians 11:11-12). Godly
male leadership is present across the testaments and so is
godly female leadership (Miriam led the
congregation in worship, Deborah judged Israel, Huldah
proclaimed the word of the Lord to the king’s
representatives and the High Priest, and Esther instituted
a new festival and commanded Israel to keep it).
THEN AND NOW, THIS
WAS A SIGN OF IMPENDING JUDGMENT
Acts 2:16 But this is that which was
spoken by the prophet Joel;
Acts 2:17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith
God,
I will pour out of my
Spirit upon all flesh:
and your sons and your
daughters shall prophesy,
and your young men shall
see visions,
and your old men shall
dream dreams:
prŏphēta and
prŏphētes
, ae, m., =
prophētēs,
.a foreteller,
soothsayer,
prophet
sacerdotes
Aegyptiorum,
quos
prophetas
vocant,”
Macr. S. 7, 13, 9: “
Aegyptius,
propheta
primarius,”
Acts 2:18 And on my servants [ancillas] and on my handmaidens
I will pour out in those
days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:
Acts 2:19 And I will shew wonders in heaven above,
and signs in the
earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke:
Acts 2:20 The sun shall be turned into darkness,
and the moon into blood,
before that great and
notable day of the Lord come:
Acts 2:21 And it shall come to pass,
that whosoever shall
call on the name of the Lord shall be saved
Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized
every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission
of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
FOR THOSE WHO
HEAR A HOLY SPIRIT PERSON, THE SAME DOOM IS SIGNALLED.
John 16:7 Nevertheless I tell you the
truth;
It is expedient
for you that I go away: [In the FLESH
Jesus was a VICTIM]
for if I go not away,
the Comforter will not come unto you;
but if I depart, I will
send him unto you. [Jesus in the
STATE of Holy Spirit will pour judgment on your head]
John 16:8 And when he is come,
he will REPROVE
THE WORLD of sin,
and of righteousness,
and of judgment:
John 16:9 Of sin, because they believe not on me;
John 16:10 Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye
see me no more;
John 16:11 Of judgment, because the prince of this world
is judged
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A CHRISTIAN SPEAKS ONLY THAT WHICH IS WRITTEN EXCLUDING
ANY KIND OF MUSIC
Eph. 5:17 Wherefore be ye not unwise,
but UNDERSTANDING what the WILL OF THE LORD IS [Last Will and Testament]
Eph. 5:18 And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess;
but be FILLED with the SPIRIT
Col. 3:16 Let the WORD OF
CHRIST
dwell
in you richly in all wisdom;
TEACHING
and ADMONISHING one another
in psalms and hymns and
spiritual songs,
[BUT] singing with grace
IN YOUR HEARTS TO THE LORD [SILENT]
John 6:63 It is the SPIRIT
that quickeneth;
the flesh profiteth
nothing:
the WORDS that I SPEAK unto you,
they are SPIRIT,
and they are life
DAVID YOUNG'S
TRANSLATION IGNORING GRAMMAR 101
 |
molpais sing of, tina
Ar.Ra.380
(Eur. Ba. 689
Eur. Ba. 689 All were asleep, their bodies relaxed,
some resting their backs against pine foliage, [685]
others laying their heads at random on the oak leaves,
modestly, not
as you say drunk with the goblet
and the sound
of the flute,
hunting out
Aphrodite through the woods in solitude... [
695] First they let their hair loose over their
shoulders,
and secured their
fawn-skins, as many of them as had released the
fastenings of their knots, girding the dappled
hides with serpents licking their jaws. |
Eph. 5:19 SPEAKING to yourselves in
psalms and hymns and spiritual songs,
[INSTEAD] singing and
making melody [psallo] in
your heart [place] to the Lord;
Eph. 5:20 Giving thanks always for all things unto God and the
Father
in the name of our Lord
Jesus Christ;
4.speech,
delivered in court, assembly
VI. verbal expression or utterance,
lego, lexis
-Lexis
A.speech, OPPOSITE ôidê |
|
-ôidê,
1.art of song 5. = eppsdê, spell,
incantation
4. text of an author, OPPOSITE exegesis
[Peter's private interpretation outlaws exegesis]
Arist.En1142a26 |
2. common talk, report, tradition d.
the talk one occasions, repute, mostly in good
sense, good report, praise, honour,
3. discussion, debate, deliberation,
c. dialogue, as a form of philosophical
debate,
The meaning of the
sunagogue or syllogimos or syllogism
Logos is the OPPOSITE emmetra, ib.1450b15
(pl Id.Rh.1404a31
Latin Psallo I.
In gen., to play upon a stringed instrument; esp.,
to play upon the cithara, to sing to the
cithara: “psallere
saltare
ēlĕgans
I. In the ante-class. period in a bad
sense, luxurious, effeminate,
fastidious, nice: elegans homo non
dicebatur cum laude “mulier
(Phryne—with
formo
“cantare
et
psallere
jucunde,”
Suet. Tit. 3;
Suet. Tit. 3
he would harangue and versify extempore. Nor was he
unacquainted with music, but could both sing and play upon the
harp sweetly and scientifically.
--dēlĭcĭae
, ārum, f. (sing. dēlĭcĭa
, ae, f.; [delicio; that which allures, flatters the
senses], delight, pleasure, charm, allurement;
deliciousness, luxuriousness, voluptuousness,
curiosities of art; sport, frolics, etc. (freq. and
class.; for syn. cf.: voluptas, libido, delectatio,
oblectatio, delectamentum, oblectamentum).
E-lēgo , āvi, 1, v. a.,
I.to convey
away (from the family) by
bequest, to bequeath away,
Petr. 43, 5;
Gai. Inst. 2, 215.
Phrȳnē
, ēs, f., =
Phrunē.
II. A
Roman courtesan,
Hor. Epod. 14, 16.—
căno , cĕcĭni,
cantum (ancient
I.imp. cante =
canite, “
once canituri,”
Vulg. Apoc. 8, 13),
3, v. n. and
a. [cf.
kanassō, kanakhē, konabos; Germ. Hahn;
Engl. chanticleer;
kuknos, ciconice;
Sanscr. kōkas =
DUCK;
A. With
carmen, cantilenam, versus, verba, etc.,
to
sing, play, rehearse,
recite
ka^na^kh-ē ,
Dor. -Kha, hē, (kanassō) Od.6.82;
odontōn men k. pele gnashing
of teeth, Il.19.365,
Hes.Sc.164:
k. aulōn sound
of flutes, Pi.P.10.39
(pl.), B.2.12,
cf. S.Tr.642
(lyr.); of the lyre, h.Ap.185.
ka^na^kh-eō
, a Verb expressing various sounds,
kanakhēse de Khalkos
A.r
ang, clashed,
Od.19.469;
kanakhousi pēgai plash,
Cratin.186;
kanakhōn holophōnos alektōr crowing,
.,
k. melos to
let a song
ring loud,
A.R.4.907.
CLANGING BRASS
khalkos
“
sidēros de kai kh. polemōn organa”
Pl.Lg.956a
SUITABLE FOR OFFERINGS IN TEMPLES OR
ANATHEMA
organon
, to, (ergon, erdō) A.instrument,
implement, tool, for making or doing
a thing,
3. musical instrument, Simon.31, f.l. in
A.Fr.57.1
; ho men di' organōn ekēlei anthrōpous, of
Marsyas, Pl.Smp.215c
; aneu organōn psilois logois ibid.,
cf. Plt.268b
; “o. polukhorda” Id.R.399c,
al.; “met' ōdēs kai tinōn organōn” Phld.Mus.p.98K.;
of the pipe, Melanipp.2,
Telest.1.2.
The second major area of consideration
is the New Testament usage of psallo. Some preliminary
considerations are in order. First, the idea of plucking,
pulling or twanging can be traced throughout the entire
history of the word, but it
did not originally involve music as such. 9 It could be used of plucking a bowstring,
a carpenters line, a beard, or some such thing. But that does not mean
that Paul authorized all of these in Ephesians 5: 19. As Hugo McCord stated in a letter to J. D. Bales on
November 16, 1962:
9. Roberson, Charles Heber, "The
Meaning and Use of Psallo (Part I)" Restoration Quarterly,
(Abilene, Texas), Vol. VI, No. 6, p. 31.
"If one grants that the three
meanings (strike strings as of a harp or bow-literal
meaning; strike strings
of the heart-figurative
meaning; sing-resultant meaning) may be used by anybody in
any age, then the only pertinent inquiry is: which of
these is in the New Testament? Examination shows no instance of the literal, once
of the figurative (Eph.
5:19), four of the resultant (Rom. 15:9; 1 Cor. 14:15;
James 5:13).10
10. Bales, James D Instrumental Music
and New Testament Worship, (Searcy: James 6. Bales), p.
92.
A 100% SECULAR INSTITUTION, WHICH ADDS ANYTHING BEYOND THE
COMMAND, TO "SPEAK THAT WHICH IS WRITTEN" IS A CULT AND IS
'FOREORDAINED' (JUDE) TO THAT JUDGEMENT. Speaking of the
Instrumental-Trinitarian-Perverted idolatry at Mount Sina, Jude
wrote;
Jude 3 Beloved, when I gave all
diligence to write unto you
of the COMMON SALVATION
it was needful for me to
WRITE unto you,
and exhort you that ye
should earnestly contend
for THE FAITH which was ONCE DELIVERED UNTO THE SAINTS.
Jude 4 For there are certain men CREPT
IN UNAWARES,
who were before of old
ordained to this condemnation,
ungodly men, turning the
grace of our God into lasciviousness,
and denying the
ONLY Lord God, [YHWH]
[
AND
[ Feminists theologians
mothers of the modern Trinity Heresy
our Lord [KURIOS] Jesus
Christ. [
WOMEN AND THE EFFEMINATE SILENCED BECAUSE THEY THINK THAT
TRUTH BEGAN WITH THEM
1Tim. 2:4 Who will have all men to be
saved,
and to come unto the
knowledge of the truth.
1Tim. 2:5 For there is
one God, [THEOS]
and
one mediator [COMFORTER 1 John 2, INTERCESSOR]
between
God and men,
the MAN Christ Jesus;
1Tim. 2:6 Who gave himself a ransom for all,
to be TESTIFIED in due time.
People who speak beyond that which is
written for our learning would change their mother's LAST
WILL.
People who speak beyond that which is written for our
learning are STEALING their children's INHERITANCE.
Gen. 1:1 In the beginning God created the
heaven and the earth.
h430. אֱלֹהִים ʾelohiym,
el-o-heem´; plural of 433; GODS in the
ordinary sense
Gen. 1:2 And the earth was without form,
and void; and darkness
was upon the face of the
deep. And the Spirit
[h7307. רוּחַ
ruwach, roo´-akh; from 7306; WIND; by resemblance
breath,]
of God moved
[flutter, move, shake.]upon the face of the waters.
FIRST; JESUS DEFINED HOLY
SCRIPTURE AS THE PROPHETS AND PROPHECIES 'CONCERNING ME.'
SECOND: Matt. 13:35 That
it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet,
saying, I will open my
mouth in parables;
I will utter things
which have been
kept secret from the
foundation of the world.
THIRD: Jer. 10:11 Thus shall ye say unto them,
The gods that HAVE NOT MADE the heavens and
the earth,
even they shall perish
from the earth,
and from under these
heavens.
Psa. 96:5 For all the gods of the nations
ARE IDOLS
BUT
the LORD made the heavens.
LORD g3068. יְהוָֹה
Yhwh; from 1961; (the) self-Existent or Eternal; name
of God:—the Lord. Compare 3050, 3069.
Jer. 2:28 But WHERE
ARE THY GODS that thou hast made thee?
let them arise, if they
can save thee in the time of thy trouble:
for according to the
number of thy cities are THY gods, O Judah.
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This Eve, on account of her having
been in the beginning deceived by the serpent, and become the
author of sin, the wicked demon, who also is called
Satan, who then spoke to her through the serpent, and who works
even to this day in those men that are possessed by him, invokes
as Eve.58
And he is called "demon" and "dragon," on account of his
revolting from God. For at first he was an angel. And
concerning his history there is a great deal to be said;
wherefore I at present omit the relation of it, for I have
also given an account of him in another place.
The word "abomination"
is also key to understanding the context. In Hebrew, the
word "to 'evah," (abomination) is almost invariably
linked to idolatry. In the passages from which both
verses are taken, God tells Moses to tell the people not to
follow the idolatrous practices of the people around them,
people who sacrificed their children to Molech, or who masturbated
into the fire to offer their semen to Molech, for
example. Chapter 20 starts off with the same warning.
JEREMIAH: SONG REPEATS ARE LADED
BURDENS JESUS OUTLAWED
David Young and the elders vision
REPUDIATED Holy Scripture and all of the historic practices of
Churches of Christ. The primary OVERSEERS including
Women are to MOCK Jesus as the ONLY teacher of His tiny flock
in exile. Repeating songs is universally
understood as for Mind Control and PREVENTING God's Holy
Word from being Heard.
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Jer. 23:24 Can any hide himself in secret
places that I shall not see him? saith the LORD.
Do not I fill heaven and
earth? saith the LORD.
Jer. 23:25 I have heard what the prophets said,
that prophesy lies in my
name,
saying, I have dreamed,
I have dreamed.
Jer. 23:26 How long shall this be in the heart of the prophets
that prophesy lies?
qq yea, they are prophets of the deceit of their own heart;
Jer. 23:27 Which think to cause my people
to forget my name by
their dreams which they tell every man to his neighbour, a
s their fathers have
forgotten my name for Baal.
Jer. 23:28 The prophet that hath a dream,
let him tell a dream;
and he that hath my word,
let him speak my word
faithfully.
What is the chaff to the
wheat? saith the LORD.
Jer. 23:29 Is not my word like as a fire? saith the LORD;
and like a hammer that
breaketh the rock in pieces?
Jer. 23:30 Therefore, behold, I am against the prophets, saith
the LORD,
that steal my words
every one from his neighbour.
Jer. 23:31 Behold, I am against the prophets, saith the LORD,
that use their tongues,
and say, He saith.
Jer. 23:32 Behold, I am against them that prophesy false
dreams, saith the LORD,
and do tell them, and
cause my people to err by their lies,
and by their lightness;
yet I sent them not, nor
commanded them:
therefore they shall not
profit this people at all, saith the LORD.
Jer. 23:33And when this people, or the prophet, or a priest,
shall ask thee, saying,
What is the burden of
the LORD? thou shalt then say unto them,
What burden? I will
even forsake you, saith the LORD.
Cyclopaedia p 133
In music, the burden is an archaic
term[1] for the drone or base in some musical instruments,
and the pipe or part that plays it, such as a bagpipe or
pedal point in an organ. Burden also refers to a
part of a song that is repeated at the end of each stanza,
i.e. the chorus or refrain. The term comes from the
French bourdon, a staff; or a pipe made in the form
of a staff, imitating the gross murmurs of bees or drones.
This is what was anciently called proslambanomenos.
Refrains
are found in the ancient Egyptian Book of the Dead
and are common in primitive tribal chants.
They appear in literature as varied
as ancient Hebrew, Greek, and Latin verse, popular ballads,
and Renaissance and Romantic lyrics. Three common refrains
are the chorus, recited by more
than one person; the burden, in which a whole
stanza is repeated; and the repetend, in
which the words are repeated erratically throughout the
poem
4853. מַשָּׂא massaʾ, mas-saw´;
from 5375; a burden; specifically, tribute, or (abstractly)
porterage; figuratively, an utterance, chiefly a doom, especially
singing; mental, desire:—burden, carry away, prophecy, x
they set, song, tribute.
THERE IS NO LAW OF TITHING OR LAYING BY "AT CHURCH." AS A
RESULT, YOU HAVE TO LIE, CHEAT AND STEAL FROM HONEST WORKERS
TO DO ANYTHING BEYOND SPEAKING OR READING THAT WHICH IS
WRITTEN FOR OUR LEARNING.
ŏnus A.
A burden, in respect of
property, i. e. a tax or an expense
“epici
carminis
onera
lyrā
sustinere
Quint. Inst. 10 1.62 The greatness of the genius of Stesichorus is
shown by his choice of subject: for he sings of the greatest
wars and the most glorious of chieftains, and the music of
his lyre is equal to the weighty themes of epic poetry.
For both in speech and action he invests his characters with
the dignity which is their due,
căno , cĕcĭni,
cantum (ancient I.imp. cante = canite canta
pro cantata ponebant; “once
canituri,”
Vulg.
Apoc. 8, 13), 3, Ter. Phorm. 4, 4, 27.— “In
the
lang.
of
the
Pythagoreans,
of
the
heavenly
bodies
(considered
as
living
beings),”
the music of the spheres, Cic. N. D. 3, 11, 27.—C
(Eccl. Lat.) The burden of a prophecy, the
woes predicted against any one: “Babylonis,”
Vulg.
Isa. 13, 1: “Tyri,”
Rev. 8:13 And I beheld, and heard an angel flying through
the midst of heaven, saying with a loud voice, Woe, woe,
woe, to the inhabiters of the earth by reason of the other
voices of the trumpet of the three angels, which are
yet to sound!
Jer. 23:34 And as for the prophet, and the
priest, and the people,
that shall say, The burden
of the LORD,
I will even punish that
man and his house.
Jer. 23:36 And the burden of the LORD shall ye mention no
more:
for every man’s word shall
be his burden;
for ye have perverted the
words of the living God,
of the LORD of hosts our
God.
The locusts are Apollyon's musical worship team; MUSICAL
PROPHESIERS
Tettix This noise is
freq. used as a simile for sweet sounds, Il.3.151, Hes.Op.582,
Sc.393,
Simon.173, 174,
etc.; and Plato calls them hoi Mousōn prophētai, Phdr.262d;
but they also became a prov. for garrulity, “lalein tettix” Aristopho10.7:
“t. polloi ginomenoi nosōdes to etos sēmainous
Mousa ,Muse,
2. hautē hē Sōkratous m. that was Socrates's way
prophēt-euō A.
to be a prophētēs or interpreter of
the gods, “manteueo, Moisa, prophateusō d' egō” Pi.
l.c.; tis prophēteuei theou; who is his interprete
Mant-euomai 2.
generally, presage, forebode, surmise, of presentiment,
Opposite. knowledge, Pl.Cra.411b,
R.349a,
II. consult an oracle, seek divinations, Pi.O.7.31,
Hdt.1.46, 4.172, etc.; “en Delphoisi” Id.6.76;
“ho gar theos manteuomenō moukhrēsen en Delphois pote” Ar.V.159,
cf. Av.593
The mark of Apollo, Abaddon, Apollyon and the Muses at Delphi.
khraō (B). A. FORMS: contr. I. in Act.
of the gods and their oracles, proclaim, abs., “khreiōn muthēsato Phoibos” 8.79:
“hē Puthiē hoi khra tade” Hdt.1.55,
“kh. mantesi Mousais” Ar.Av.724
From Charis or Grace: See
Charismatic Worship
b. khrēsthai tini (without philō) to be intimate with
a man, X.Hier.5.2,
Mem.4.8.11
2. esp. of sexual intercourse, “gunaixi ekhrato” Hdt.2.181, cf.
X.Mem.1.2.29,
2.1.30, Is.3.10, D.59.67.
Aristoph.
Birds 724
If you recognize us as gods, we shall be your divining Muses,
through us you will know the winds and the seasons, summer,
[725] winter, and the temperate months. We shall not withdraw
ourselves to the highest clouds like Zeus, but shall be
among you and shall give to you [730] and to your children
and the children of your children, health and wealth,
long life, peace, youth, laughter, songs
and feasts; in short, you will all be so well off, [735]
that you will be weary and cloyed with enjoyment.
If you are a rhetorician, singer or instrument player John in
Revelation 18 calls you a sorcerer: if you are a sorcerer or
witch:
Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the
abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers,
and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in
the lake which burneth with fire and
brimstone: which is the second death.
Revelation 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and
whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever
loveth and maketh a lie.
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1Corinthians 13:1 Though I speak with the tongues of
men and of angels,
and have not charity, I am
become as sounding brass, or a tinkling
cymbal.
This is not speaking as in the command to SPEAK one to another
to teach and comfort. Sounding brass and tinkling cymbals here
are identifying marks of people who have NO LOVE. Even if they
COULD speak all of the languages in the world there would be no
love. The command is to SPEAK or LOGOS the Word of Christ which
is the opposite of rhetoric, singing or playing instruments.
Speaking in the tongues of angels was IN FACT making music in
tongues.
La^l-eō ,Mark of the Locusts
III. of musical sounds, “aulō [flute] laleō” Theoc.20.29; of trees,
v.supr.1.2; “di'aulou [flute] ē salpiggos l.”[trumpet] Arist. Aud.801a29; of Echo, D.C.74.14: also c.acc. cogn., magadin lalein sound the magadis, Anaxandr.35.
[double flute]
Tettix This noise is
freq. used as a simile for sweet sounds, Il.3.151, Hes.Op.582,
Sc.393,
Simon.173, 174,
etc.; and Plato calls them hoi Mousōn prophētai, Phdr.262d;
but they also became a prov. for garrulity, “lalein tettix” Aristopho10.7:
“t. polloi ginomenoi nosōdes to etos sēmainous
Mousa ,Muse,
2. hautē hē Sōkratous m. that was Socrates's way
prophēt-euō A.
to be a prophētēs or interpreter
of the gods, “manteueo, Moisa, prophateusō d' egō” Pi.
l.c.; tis prophēteuei theou; who is his interprete
Mant-euomai 2.
generally, presage, forebode, surmise, of
presentiment, Opposite. knowledge, Pl.Cra.411b,
R.349a,
II. consult an oracle, seek divinations, Pi.O.7.31,
Hdt.1.46, 4.172, etc.; “en Delphoisi” Id.6.76;
“ho gar theos manteuomenō moukhrēsen en Delphois pote” Ar.V.159,
cf. Av.593
The mark of Apollo, Abaddon, Apollyon and the Muses at
Delphi.
khraō (B). A. FORMS: contr. I. in
Act. of the gods and their oracles, proclaim, abs.,
“khreiōn muthēsato Phoibos” 8.79:
“hē Puthiē hoi khra tade” Hdt.1.55,
“kh. mantesi Mousais” Ar.Av.724
From Charis or Grace: See
Charismatic Worship
b. khrēsthai tini (without philō) to be intimate with
a man, X.Hier.5.2,
Mem.4.8.11
2. esp. of sexual intercourse, “gunaixi ekhrato” Hdt.2.181,
cf. X.Mem.1.2.29,
2.1.30, Is.3.10, D.59.67.
Aristoph.
Birds 724
If you recognize us as gods, we shall be your divining
Muses, through us you will know the winds and the
seasons, summer, [725] winter, and the temperate months. We
shall not withdraw ourselves to the highest clouds like
Zeus, but shall be among you and shall give to you
[730] and to your children and the children of your
children, health and wealth, long life,
peace, youth, laughter, songs and feasts;
in short, you will all be so well off, [735] that you
will be weary and cloyed with enjoyment.
If you are a rhetorician, singer or instrument player John in
Revelation 18 calls you a sorcerer: if you are a sorcerer or
witch:
Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the
abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers,
and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part
in the lake which burneth with fire and
brimstone: which is the second death.
Revelation 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers,
and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever
loveth and maketh a lie.
Aggelos , of a
loquacious person 2. generally, one that
announces or tells, e.g. of birds of augury,
Il.24.292,296; Mousōn aggelos, of a poet,
Paul will define a prophet as Teaching the Word of God with
Speaking: Logos or opposite poetry or music. These are the Locusts
or music Apollo unleashed and John calls Sorcerers in Revelation
18 working for the Babylon Mother of Harlots.
1Corinthians 14:8 For if the trumpet give an uncertain sound,
who shall prepare himself to the battle?
Salp-igx , iggos, hē, A. war-trumpet hupai salpiggos by sound of trumpet,
S.El.711, cf. Ar.Ach.1001;
also apo s. X.Eq.Mag.3.12,
Plb.4.13.1.
The trumpet was for sending signals: if someone makes music it
might getyou killed:
Xen.
Cav. 3.11 In the sham fight when the regiments pursue
and fly from one another at the gallop in two squadrons of five
regiments, each side led by its commander, the regiments should
ride through one another. How formidable they will look when they
charge front to front; how imposing when, after sweeping across
the Hippodrome, they stand facing one another again; how splendid,
when the trumpet sounds and they charge once more
at a quicker pace!
[12] After the halt, the trumpet
should sound once more, and they should charge yet a third
time at top speed; and when they have crossed, they should
all range themselves in battle line preparatory to being
dismissed, and ride up to the Council, just as you are accustomed
to do.
Paul spoke LOGOS in clear conversational style because the
purpose was to TEACH the Word of Christ.
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