Jonathan Storment Pleasant Valley church
of christ
Jesus identifies
self-speakers as ANTI-Christian.
Hypocrites: speakers, singers,
instrument players, pay-for-play.
ABSOLUE MARK OF A CHRISTIAN
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John 8:29 And he that sent me
is with me:
the Father hath not left me alone; For I do
always those things that please him.
John 8:30 As he spake these WORDS,
many believed on him.
John 8:31 Then said Jesus to those Jews which
believed on him,
IF ye
continue in MY WORD,
THEN
are ye my DISCIPLES indeed;
John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth,
AND
the truth shall make you free.
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Mark 10:34 And they shall mock
him,
Latin Illudo
as a female: Applied as a term of
reproach, effeminate men, eloquence,
rhētor but
with idea of contempt, caneret,”
A. Of men: “si absurde canat, of the crooked
race, a reed pipe, a guitar, crowing
of a hen tibiae, tubae, Gallus , i, m.,
= Gallos Strab., A.
Galli , the
priests of Cybele, on account
of their emasculated condition) Gallic:
“turma,” the
troop of the priests of Isis, Ov. Am. 2, 13, 18.
“resupinati cessantia tympana Galli,”
Any Religious Performer is marked as a PARASITE and
real or effeminate persona.
Gallos , ho, A. priest
of Cybele, gallazō , A.
practise cult of Cybele, Galli.
Eunuch priests of Cybele or the great mother:
begun under the reign of Erichthonius, king of
Attica, B.C. 1506;
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Logos
MY WORD
computation, reckoning
2. statement of a theory,
argument, ouk
emeu
alla
tou
l.
akousantas
prob. in Heraclit.50;
logon ēde
noēma
amphis
alētheiēs
discourse and reflection on reality,
IV. inward debate
of the soul, reflection,
deliberation
Regulative and formative forces,
derived from the intelligible and operative
in the sensible universe,
Opposite to epithumia
A. desire, yearning, longing
after a thing, desire of or for
it, Theaomai :--gaze
at, behold, mostly with a sense of wonder, 3.
view as spectators
Opposite Pathos A.
that which happens to a person or thing, incident,
accident, Moralizing Rhetoric
Opposite
Poiein to excite passion,
Arist.Rh.1418a12;
V. Rhet., emotional style
or treatment,
Opposite Enthousi-astikos
, ē, on, A. inspired,
“phusis” Pl.Ti.71e;
esp. by music,
Prose, OPPOSITE -poiêsis, Id.R.390a;
OPPOSITE -poiêtikê, D.H.Comp.6;
OPPOSITE poiêmata, onomatopoeic
word
OPPOSITE
emmetra Modus
2. The measure of tones, measure, rhythm,
melody, harmony, time; in poetry, measure,
metre, mode: Mūsĭcus a, um, adj.,
= mousikos.
X. the Word or Wisdom
of God, personified as his agent in creation and
world-government,
Theologians are doomed to call God a liar or
INCOMPETENT. If God had wanted any kind of music
in the tuneful sense He was INTELLIGIBLE But denied by
C. Leonard Allen.
mousikos
kai melōn
poētēs”
2. generally, votary of the Muses,
The Muses were the LOCUSTS unleashed with Apollon
their "musical worship leaders." The Greek and Latin
literature identifies them as dirty adulteresses
http://www.piney.com/DocHesTheog.html
[25] the Muses of Olympus,
daughters of Zeus who holds the aegis: “Shepherds
of the wilderness,
wretched things
of shame, mere bellies,
we know how to
speak many false things as though they
were true;
but we know,
when we will, to utter true things.”
...and they bade me sing of the race of the blessed
gods that are eternally,
but ever to
sing of themselves both first and last.
pharma^kon 3.
enchanted potion, philtre: hence, charm,
spell, Od.4.220
sq., Ar.Pl.302,
[Circe, Church, Corinth mother of harlots] Theoc.2.15
The singers [Muses], instrument players and craftsmen
as sorcerers in Revelation 18.
Gay used to mean happy, but I can
assure you, homosexuals are not happy people. They
habitually seek happiness by following after
destructive pleasures.
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Jesus didn't die to give FODDER
for men to conduct WORSHIP SERVICES. The synagogue
and Ekklesia were SHOOLS OF THE WORD ONL.
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for 23 years. Jude says that those who
repeat the Mount Sinai Instrumental -
Trinitarian-Perverted musical idolatry will have
been FOREORDAINED and cannot come to the
LIGHT. It is impossible and no Scripture to
WORSHIP by "preaching, listening, singing, playing
instruments (mocking Jesus), acting or PAY FOR
PLAY by lying about tithes and offerings.
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Jesus
defined Holy Scripture as the Prophets and other
Prophecies "concerning Me." Ephesians 2:20 a
church, by definition, will be built upon or
educated by the Prophets and Apostles: that is the
absolute one-piece pattern from the wilderness
onward. 1 Peter 1:20 outlawed "private
interpretation" or "Further expounding." False
prophets and false preachers "go beyond that which
is written for our LEARNING. Peter and the Spirit
speaking throuth Isaiah 55 says that those who do
anything else proves that they are false
teachers. Isaiah 55 equates Spirit and
Word and shows that any kind of performance
(rhetoric or music) proves that "There is no Light
In Them.
Jonathan
Storment:
http://jonathanstorment.com/2013/06/tradition-guards-or-gardening/
“Far too much Traditional
Church has been too much tradition, and not enough
Church.” -N.T. Wright
Jonathan Storment describes the feeling I get
when Biblically Illiterate men presume to be PREACHERS for
which there is no ROLE and no DOLE. Jesus defined thee
Scribes and Pharisees as HYPOCRITES. Isaiah 29 and
Exekiel 33 marks "performance preachers, singers and
instrument players.. This was god's mark of preachers
who do not preach God and an audience with no intention of
obeying. Such persona have no hesitance in Infiltrating and
Diverting churches to the INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC SECT.
I was almost an art thief. Or at least I felt like one. It
was at the end of our semester abroad, we got to go to the
Louvre where we saw thousands of priceless works of art.
Including the Mona Lisa.
But the Mona Lisa, was a bit
disappointing. Maybe it’s because of all the hype from Dan
Brown, and the fact that Da Vinci was not actually admitting
to the world that he was a descendent of Jesus through this
famous work of art. Or maybe it’s because the actual
painting is pretty small. But I think the reason that I
didn’t enjoy it was because of the guard.
Unlike so many other incredible
works of art at the Louvre, there was a guard specially
assigned to this one piece. Just watching you as
you watched it. And I noticed that as he was especially
watching me, I was acutely aware of the fact that I didn’t
want to give him the impression of being a suspicious
character. But that’s when he had me.
When
the elite of Israel fell into instrumental idolatry at
Mount Sinai, the Jacob-cursed Levites jumped at the chance
to execute 3,000 of the brethren. God then commanded
that the Levites have no inheritance and that the STAND
GUARD around the now devalued Tabernacle and later the
Temple as the "worship center" of the
Civil-Military-Clergy complex. They were NOT called
Musical Worship Ministers but they stood GUARD in ranks
under the King and Commanders of the Army. They
prevented any NOT-abandoned Israelite from coming near any
of the "holy" things or into any "holy" place. They made a
great crashing noise during the burning of the
Goats. However, the Spirit OF Christ in Isaiah 1 and
in Jeremiah 7 specificially says that God HAD NOT
commanded the slaughter of innocent animals or the burnt
offering. The GOATS and especially the scape goat was
added after Adab and Abihu as a way to appease the Devil.
This is a primary definition of those
who ACT without God's explicit authority.
Ex. 31:14 Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for
it is holy unto you:
every one that defileth
it shall surely be put to death:
for whosoever doeth any work
therein,
that soul shall be cut off from
among his people.
KEEP the
sabbath never meant WORSHIP on the REST day for the
spiritual people of God. Jesus gave us (the fee)
another REST day which outlaws the musical aggitation and
dethroned the burden laders.
Keep: H8104 shâmar shaw-mar' A primitive
root; properly to hedge about (as with thorns), that is,
guard; generally to protect, attend to, etc.:—beware, be
circumspect, take heed (to self), keep (-er, self),
mark, look narrowly, observe, preserve, regard, reserve,
save (self), sure, (that lay) wait (for), watch (-man).
Keep in Latin: -Custodio custodibitur, Plaut. Capt. 3, 5,
71), v. a. id., to watch,
protect, keep, defend, guard
II. With the accessory idea of hindering
free motion, A. In gen., to hold something
back, to preserve, keep: to
be on the watch: cautiously, carefully:
“ut
parce
custoditeque
ludebat!”
Plin. Ep. 5, 16, 3.
Plin. Ep. 5, 16, 3.
officio diligebat! quam studiose, quam intellegenter lectitabat! ut parce custoditeque ludebat!
Meaning to keep precepts or laws: Regula a rule, pattern, measuring
rod, formula sermonis
Loquor to speak, talk, say
(sermo in the lang. of common life, in the tone of
conversation
Lūdo
B. To play, sport, frisk, frolic: “dum
se
exornat,
nos
volo
Ludere
inter
nos,”
have some fun,
Verg. E. 6, 1.—Esp.,
to play on an instrument of music, to make or compose
music or song: “ludere
quae
vellem
calamo
permisit
agresti,”
Verg. E. 1, 10:
quod
tenerae
cantent,
lusit
tua
musa,
puellae,”
id. Am. 3, 1, 27:
“coloni
Versibus
incomptis
ludunt,”
Verg. G. 2, 386:
“carmina
pastorum,”
Verg.
Ecl. 1 TITYRUS
O Meliboeus, 'twas a god vouchsafed
this ease to us, for him a god will I
deem ever, and from my folds a tender lamb
oft with its life-blood shall his altar stain.
His gift it is that, as your eyes may see,
my kine may roam at large,
and I myself play [ludere], on my shepherd's
pipe [călămus]
what songs I will.
călămus
2. A reed-pipe, reed
(cf. Lucr. 5, 1380 sq.;
the form is described in Tib. 2, 5,
32; Ov. M. 1, 711):
3. An arrow: “hastas
et
calami
spicula
Gnosii,”
MELIBOEUS
I grudge you not the boon, but marvel more,
such wide confusion fills the country-side.
See, sick at heart I drive my she-goats on,
căpella , ae, f.
dim. caper; cf.: puer, puella,
I.a
she-goat. [whatever the sex]
2. As a
term of reproach,
a
dirty fellow,
(cf. canicula dog, Catamite).—
Catul. 19 Bearded kid and anon some
horny-hoofed nanny shall sprinkle.
Wherefore Priapus is bound to requite such honours
by service,
Doing his duty to
guard both
vineyard
and garth of his
lordling.
Here then, O lads, refrain from ill-mannered picking
and stealing:
Custodio: hold something back, preserve,
hinder free motion, watch, preserve. hold back simulation.
-Simulatio hold back .
a falsely assumed appearance, a false show,
feigning, shamming, pretence, feint,
insincerity, deceit, hypocrisy,
simulation, pretend to be under a divine
command.
“simulatio
et
inanis
ostentatio,
Jesus defined the Scribes and Pharisees as hypocrites by
pointing to performance speakers, singers and instrument
players.
Quint. Inst. 12 1.29
[29] And
assuredly the man who will best inspire such feelings in
others is he who has first inspired them in himself. For
however we strive to conceal it, insincerity will
always betray itself, and there was never in any
man so great eloquence as would not begin to
stumble and hesitate so soon as his words ran counter
to his inmost thoughts.
Sermons pretend that it is God speaking
Singers pretend that their songs are Spirit inspired.
Tacitus Tac. Hist. 2.61 Amid the adventures of these
illustrious men, one is ashamed to relate how a certain Mariccus,
a Boian of the lowest origin, pretending to
divine inspiration, ventured to thrust himself into
fortune's game, and to challenge the arms of Rome. Calling himself the champion of
Gaul, and a God (for he
had assumed this title), he had now collected 8000 men,
and was taking possession of the neighbouring villages of
the Ædui, when that most formidable state attacked him
with a picked force of its native youth, to which
Vitellius attached some cohorts, and dispersed the crowd
of fanatics.
Mariccus was
captured in the engagement, and was soon after exposed to
wild beasts, but not having been torn by them was believed
by the senseless multitude to be invulnerable,
till he was put to death in the presence of Vitelliu
2Chronicles 12:10 Instead of which king Rehoboam made shields
of brass, and committed them to the hands of the chief of the
guard, that kept the entrance of the king’s house.
2Chronicles 12:11 And when the king entered into the house of
the LORD, the guard came and fetched them, and brought them
again into the guard chamber.
Genesis 33:9 And
Esau said, I have enough, my brother; keep that thou hast
unto thyself.
Acts 16:4 And as they went through the cities, they
delivered them the decrees for to keep, that were ordained
of the apostles and elders which were at Jerusalem.
1Timothy 6:20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to
thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and
oppositions of science falsely so called:
2Timothy 1:12 For the which cause I also suffer these
things: nevertheless I am not ashamed: for I know whom I
have believed, and am persuaded that he is able to keep
that which I have committed unto him against that day.
God: Then Solomon offered burnt offerings unto the Lord on the altar of the Lord, which he had built before the porch, 2 Chronicles 8:12
Even after a certain rate every day, offering according to the commandment of Moses, on the sabbaths, and on the new moons, and on the solemn feasts, three times in the year,
even in the feast of unleavened bread, and in the feast of weeks, and in the feast of
tabernacles. 2 Chronicles 8:13
David: And he appointed, according to the order
of David his father,
the courses of the priests to their
service,
and the Levites to their charges,
to praise and minister before the priests,
as the duty of every
day required: the porters also by their courses at every
gate:
for so had David the
man of God commanded. 2 Chronicles 8:14
The Levites
"charges" is the Hebrew is
Mishmeret (h4931) mish-meh'-reth; fem. of 4929;
watch, i. e. the act (custody) or (concr.) the sentry,
the post; obj. preservation, or (concr.) safe; fig.
observance, i. e. (abstr.) duty, or (obj.) a usage or
party: - charge, keep, to be kept, office, ordinance,
safeguard, ward, watch.
Mishmar (h4929) mish-mawr'; from 8104; a guard
(the man, the post, or the prison); fig. a deposit;
also (as observed) a usage (abstr.), or an example
(concr.): - diligence, guard, office, prison, ward,
watch.
Shamar (h8104) shaw-mar'; a
prim. root; prop. to hedge about (as with thorns), i.
e. guard; gen. to protect, attend to, etc.: - beware,
be circumspect, take heed (to self), keep (-er, self),
mark, look narrowly, observe, preserve, regard,
reserve, save (self), sure, (that lay) wait (for),
watch (-man).
Jonathan Storment:
Because once you start
thinking about trying to act like you are not thinking
about stealing a famous work of art, you in fact start
acting very shady. So much so, that I think they assigned
a special guard to me for the rest of my time
there.
Context Is King
Jonathan Storment:
This past Sunday at the Highland
Church, I co-preached with Doug Foster. Doug is a
Church historian who teaches at the ACU Graduate
School of Theology. He’s passionate about Church history
and the tradition that we have been handed
down, and he’s a great story teller. (Which all
historians really should be).
Douglas
does not grasp Church History or the Scriptures which
define the Assembly or School of Christ.
Douglas.A.Foster.How.Instrumental.Music.Worship.Became.Red.Flag.Issue.html
Worship means to FALL ON YOUR FACE in Reverence and Godly
Fear for God is a CONSUMING FIRE.
There is no command, example or remote inference of God
calling anying out to sing with our without instruments.
No one, including David, is ever said to WORSHIP, by
preaching, listening, singing, playing an instrument,
acting, mincing or PAY FOR PLAY. Jesus said you
have to ROB widows to get on the dole.
No one in church history ever SANG as a act of worship with or
without an instrument until after John Calvin.
Instrumental sounds always confuse and at tools of SORCERY or
WITHCRAFT or "making the lambs dumb before the slaughter.
The LOGOS of God is the Regulative Principle; the Logos forms
of SPEAK is defined as the opposite of story-telling or self
reference which is bad flaw. It is opposite of poetry,
singing, playing instruments or acting. It is also
opposite of MUSIC because music almost demands DANCING.
As you move your voices together you are supposed to move your
bodies together. This was always a sexual or homosexual
moving together.
Douglas Foster
being PASSIONATE may make him flutter over the facts of
the Bible and recorded history.
Jonathan Storment:
And we talked about how, in our particular
tradition, the way we sing and worship has become codified
over the past few generations. Many Churches of
Christ have sang A Capella for the past few hundreds
years. It’s a wonderful tradition…
Jesus said that doctors of the law "take away the key to
knowledge." They are Scribes and Pharisees Jesus called
hypocrites which in the Ezekile 33 passage by the Spirit OF
Christ is self-speakers, singers, instrument players and the
audience: the preachers preach for pay and the singers and
instrument players get paid and the audience has no intention
of obeying what Ezekiel or God says.
The Spirit OF Christ identified the King-Queen of Tyre as
inspired by LUCIFER: He says that Lucifer (ZOE) was the
singing and harp-playing prostitute in the garden of
Eden. God never said "Thou shalt not be a singing and
harp-playing prostitute" but one should cross their fingers
behind their backs when saying that Godly Disciples who never
sang with instruments in the Bible or recorded history are
guilty of the RACA TRADITIONALISTS slander.
John warned about the end-time Babylon Mother of Harlots in
Revelation 18. In chapter 18 she uses "lusted after
fruits" as self-speakers, singers and instrument players. The
sound of the millstone was to mark the local prostitute who
did double duty. John says that were sorcerers who
Had deceived the whole world and they would be cast alive into
the lake of fire.
The UNLEASHED
Abaddon or Apollyon and the muses (dirty adulteress) are
the LOCUSTS for those with a need to know. Apollo or
Apollyon is the LEADER of the MUSICIANS. The Lusted
after Fruits are the same ones in Amos 8 as Christ's
Prophetic Type. The music in the temple made the
Levites condemned to be executed. When you hear
those sounds in the TRUE holy place it is a mark that
Jesus has been there and gone with the lamps or seven
spirits of Christ.
God never said
"Thou shalt not be a doge or Catamite" but Paul said that
worship was IN THE SPIRIT because religious observations
invites the Cynics or the old style praise singers howling
for a mate for the night." At least we have a right to
repudiate anyone who says that those who NEVER used
instrumental sounds in what Thomas Campbell taught them as
A School of Christ and say that they are Purpose Driven
because one cannot be accidentially unaware of TRUE
history.
Jonathan
Storment: But Dr.
Foster and I were talking about when this became more than just
a tradition.
If you want to hear the whole
sermon, you can find it on ITunes or here, but the basic gist was that this
became more than just a good tradition, pretty soon
after the Civil War.
Moses Lard knew
early own that those who were IMPOSING instruments and
driving the owners out never wanted unity but in the case
of Sand Creek they wanted your new red brick
building. Organs (only we promise) were in only a
few churches before almost the end of the century.
Sand Creek was in 1889 and the Illinois Supremen Court
said, no, you have to go and purchase your own new red
brick church house. Highland will spend hundreds of
thousandss to transform the School of the word (prior to
about 1950) into a Theater for Holy Entertainment. Those
who object having to cast themselves out of their own
synagogue (school of the Word) are always told: get over
it or get out. That is what they told J.W.Mcgarvey.
Douglas Foster
harps on the fact that the leaders of the Restoration
Movement (the Campbell wing) were Presbyterians. Any
presbyterian reader would have had access to a large body
of literature brought on when the State Church of Scotland
was a kingly ceremonial center and they wanted to add the
organ. The Church of England had VOTED to remove the
organ left over in the few Catholic Cathedrals.
However, Queen Elizabeth needed the organ (only, we
promise) for State Church Rituals. The Catholics
lifted that from the Jews where the Temple was the King's
Schrine and NEVER a worship center for singing with
instruments.
Jonathan Storment:
Because
now Churches of Christ in the North had some money to
spend, and some of these churches bought buildings and
organs, while some of the
Churches of Christ in the South were dying from hunger.
And they saw their brothers and sisters dying and their
northern brothers and sister buying. And they said
that’s not right.
Lucky we have
some great history which refutes that: A church in
Murfreesboro which was the center of education and the
Church of Christ along with county churches were little
affected by the war even though Stone's River was just
outside of town. I volunteered in a mansion visited by
Nathan Forest and generals on the other side. James
A. Garfield visited and attended a meeting where Churches
of Christ pledge to stay out of the War. Garfield
went back to Bethany, collected his students and jumped
into the war with both feet.
It was at Sand Creek, Illinois not very close to the war-torn
South that the Christian Church through members of Sand Creek
attempted to IMPOSE instruments and all of the trappings of a
human institution clearly defined by the Highland Church of
Christ pattern. When that didn't happen they went to law
to attempt to confiscate the new brick building. They took it
to the illinois Supreme Court and LOST. Storment, Foster
etal will never recover from that fact.
Sand
Creek Church of Christ is about 120 north east of
Saint Louis: we might not call that the deep south. Shelby County, Il A brick building
had been constructed in 1874, bigger and better than
the old log and frame meeting houses of earlier days,
situated on a small knoll amid oak and walnut trees. A small
cemetery lay due west, hallowed with the graves of the
immortal soldiers of God
Dainel
Sommer Address at Sand Creek
But the music question must not be
forgotten. I read Eph. 5:19. "Speaking to
yourselves in Psalms and hymns and spiritual songs,
singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord." I
also read Col. 3:16. "Let the word of Christ dwell in you
richly in all wisdom, teaching and admonishing one another
in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with
grace in your hearts to the Lord."
He was absolutely
correct since it was because of musical idolatry at Mount
Sinai that God turned them over to worship the starry host
and sentenced them back to BABYLON for captivity and
destruction. God did not command any of the monarchy.
Before slandering
a Bible-literate body of people it would be a good idea to
read First
Samuel Eight and see where the PERFORMERS
were abandoned to their pattern thinking that they had any
hand in the abandonment.
1Sa 8:4 Then all the elders of Israel gathered themselves together, and came to
Samuel unto Ramah,
1Sa 8:5 And said unto him, Behold, thou art old, and thy sons walk not in thy ways: now make us a king to judge us like all the
nations.
1Sa 8:6 But the thing displeased
Samuel, when they said, Give us a king to judge us. And
Samuel prayed unto the LORD.
1Sa 8:7 And the LORD said unto
Samuel,
..........Hearken unto the voice of the people in
all that they say unto thee:
.......... for they have not rejected thee,
.......... but they have rejected me,
.......... that I should not reign over
them.
1Sa 8:8 According to all the works which they have done since the day that I brought them up out of Egypt even unto this day,
.......... wherewith they have forsaken me,
.......... and served other gods, so do they also
unto thee.
This is when they rose up in musical
idolatry and God truned them over to worship the Starry
Host. David's SEER was a Star Gazer, Jerusalem was a
Jebusite High Place and the worship was mostly Sabianism.
1Sa 8:9 Now therefore hearken unto
their voice:
......... howbeit
yet protest solemnly unto them,
..........and show them the manner of the king that shall reign over
them.
Neither
Methodists, Baptists or Presbyterians were so unlearned
that they thought that instruments did anyting but cause
discord and stop the role as A School of the Word.
Baptists and Presbyterians resisted on the same Biblical
Basis as educated members of the Church of Christ
especially the mothers who read the Bible to the whole
family. Something almost totally absent to either
Jonathan's or Foster's twisting of Scripture and history.
Based on the number of people
maliciously discorded this must be the most
vicious attack in church history.
Jonathan Storment:
And then suddenly,
what had previously been a preference or tradition
became what some would call, “A
Salvation Issue.”
When the banditos
decided to RESTRUCTURE all Churches of Christ into adding
the instrument (only a few fell because they were already
ripe unto rotten) the MANTRA of the Gang INVENTED the
statement: "Instruments are NOT a salvation Issue." Like
all people who shoot you in the heart they accuse you of
attacking them with spurts of blood: it began with
Eve. It is NEVER an issue until someone decides to
"Lie, cheat and steal the church house of widows."
A Christian is a
Disciple: a Disciple is a Student: The ONLY resource is
defined by the CENI stated by Christ in the PATTERN for
the godly people from the Wilderness until today. A
Christian cannot say "salvation issue." In fact, the
instrumentalists launched an attack against those who
would not join the Society and Organ party and turn over
their property. ALL of the debates which fueled the
secting out of the NACC from 1927-1971 from the Disciples
INSIST that using the ORGAN (Only, we promise) WAS a
salvation issue.
In the Stark-Warlick debate which terminated the
hostile takeover of Churches of Christ in Tennessee
1903 Stark: In the Stark
Warlick Debate,
thought of worship as the emotion of the soul
and that it might "produce singing, shouting,
praising, leaping, dancing,
hand clapping, or thanksgiving and
such should not be suppressed by man
made rules."
These commands of men are the
creed of their division of God's
people. Like Paul's '"man of sin," they
have taken their place in the temple of God and
assume to speak as God. God put it into his
sanctuary by command; and if he has not taken it
out, it remains there, unless some one claiming superior
authority to God shall as God put it out of the temple
of God. That character Paul calls "the man of sin who opposseth
and exalteth himself above all that is called God:
The Doom of such is HELL. I need
no authority for using it; for where there is no law,
there is no transgression. [p.15]
What have they to do with my
worship of God? The whole thing comes from a devilish,
domineering spirit, which, instead of worshipping
God, has taken God's seat in judgment to control the
praise others may bring... it is well enough
to teach them: but 'rebellion is as the sin of
witchcraft, and stubborness is as iniquity and
idolatry. (1 Samuel 15:23)
Who put the twelfth commandment into God's law, saying,
"Thou shalt not have an instrument of music in the
congregation of the saints?" David [Lipscomb], the
destructive critic, when, like the "man of sin,"
he sits in the temple of God, says: "Thou shalt not."
That is the corner stone of his departure--the
foundation of his schism. Their church is
built upon it, and a few old fogies have made it
a test of fellowship. God will shake their
thunder out of them and put some lightning into them
one of these days. [p.28]
1908
O.E. Payne Foundational Document: The
instrument would be forced into the worship by
these new converts made by Payne's book, which would drive out those it
did not convert, and thus we would
have division instead of unity as a result of this work.
Surely this commission could not hope to change every one
on this question with this book and thus get every one
wrong; but if it did not change all, but changed any, it
would cause division instead of unity.
Rick
Atchley used by the NACC
We sent
them to youth rallies and Church
of Christ events
with some of
the finest Christian bands in the
world.
We discipled our children
to leave our Movement!
Rick
Atchley interviewed by the Christian Standard
Rick Atchley: As
minister of the Word at The Hills Church of Christ,
Rick Atchley leads a congregation that has expanded
to three campuses in the Greater Fort Worth, Texas,
area and ministers to 5,000 people each weekend.
The Hills has a
background as an a cappella church of Christ,
but has transitioned over the
past few years to include instrumental worship in most
services.
Dwaine
E. Dunning: There are at least three ways to kill a
tree.
You can poison it, or burn it. It might not survive
if all the limbs were lopped off.
But men usually choose to kill a tree by cutting down its trunk.
We take an axe or saw to it not far above the roots and "fell" that tree.
Likewise a system of
doctrine may be destroyed in various ways. It might be poisoned (or sweetened in this case)
by injecting a
different spirit
into those who hold the doctrine.
- Or its various
contentions may be individually or specifically
refuted,
like lopping off a tree's branches one
by one.
- A.
Ralph Johnson: A Word of Caution
One
difficulty with writing is, to accurately convey feelings. It is also difficult, when
a subject affects millions of people in different ways, to
speak to the needs of each without leaving
others feeling
pained
that they have been lumped with the
"bad guys." In citing arguments made against
instrumental, I do not wish to imply that all anti-instrumentalists hold to all of them.
I
recognize that most anti-instrumentalists
are wise
enough to
reject many of the really outrageous ones. I do not wish to blame all for the folly of a few. Permit me also
to explain that I use the term, "anti-instrumental"
rather than "non-instrumental" or "a cappella brethren,"
because those two terms fail to fully express the essence
of our situation.
There are many who by
preference, circumstance,
or for other reasons, do not
use instrumental music
but do NOT believe that it
is sinful.
One MAY by choice sing a-cappella.
By "anti-instrumental" I
mean those
opposed to religious use of instrumental music, as
sinful.
I have no problem with
those who simply prefer to sing unaccompanied.
Robert
Ballard and the NACC: and to refuse to permit that which
God Himse;f has (P93) SAID TO USE. To forbid their
use, where God has SAID TO USE THEM,
as in Eph. 5:19 and Col. 3:16 is
flagrant sin (Rev 22:18:19)
And over time, we forgot about the
context of why this became such a passionate
problem for some people,
and we just knew
our grandparents taught us it was wrong.
It is a bit
absurd and racists to claim that Churches of Christ or
other groups rejected the ORGAN (only, we promise) based
on holding a pity party. This is historically wrong and
ethically without redemption. Your grandmother
undoubtedly had read more Bible than her grandson who
believes what he believes because he has to CONFESS to get
a false professor to give him a still-bleading sheepskin.
In my context, I’ve learned
that while this form of worship may have mattered a lot
to my grandma, chances are it didn’t matter as much
(or at least in the same way) to her grandmother.
And that’s the value of tradition! It
doesn’t codify the way things used to be done. In
fact it can help to challenge it!
Living Tradition
For the past few months, I’ve taken up
gardening. That’s probably too generous of a word for it.
Basically I tried to make the primary color of my front yard
to not be brown. But as Leslie and I have planted shrubs and
flowers, I’ve noticed how much trimming and cultivating we
have to do. We have to keep something’s in and other things
out.
Gardening is in some ways like Guarding.
Except for one fundamental difference.
One is about something that is
alive, and the other is about something that is dead.
One of the problems with tradition is not
knowing how to live with it.
So for example, in my tribe,
we’ve said that we want to worship A Capella
because the early
Christians (some times) did.
That’s an okay reason,
but it’s dead by itself.
It’s copying and
pasting a form, without having the heartbeat behind it.
We ask the question How…but the real
question to ask, to have a Living Tradition, is
Why did the Early
Christians sing like that?
And the answer is of course,
far more fascinating and engaging,
