The Bible has been good enough for centuries. But Paul warned about women who thought that truth began with them. Almost no godly wife or mother would agree with this radical abandonment of Holy Scriptures. What Paul and Revelation 17-18 warned about can be measured by the loss of a great Civilization.
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The worship was ORGIASTIC [wrath in 1 Timothy 2] in the extreme, and was accompanied by the sound of such frenzy-producing instruments as the tympana, cymbala, tibiæ, and cornu, and culminated in scourging, self-mutilation, syncope from excitement. and even death from hemorrhage or heart-failure
The especial worship of Cybele was conducted by emasculated priests called Galli (or, as in vv. 12 and 34, with reference to their physical condition, Gallæ).
heir name was derived by the ancients from that of the river Gallus, a tributary of the Sangarius,
by drinking from which men became inspired with frenzy (cf. Ov. Fast. 4.361ff.).
PERTUBATION OF THE MIND: A LADED BURDEN. Religious music has always been INTENTIONAL. Jude says that they were foreordained to this judgment.
anxiety; mental uneasiness."she sensed her friend's perturbation"- having the effect of upsetting, disturbing, or discomposing
The early connection of Attis with the Mother of THE GODS seems to point to the association of an original male element with an original female element as the parents of all things.
But in the age of tradition Attis appears as a servant instead of an equal,
and the subordination of the male to the female element is further emphasized by the representation of Attis,
like the Galli of historic times, as an EMASCULATED priest.
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Gal328 NEITHER Gender Justice Church of Christ.
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Sproles: When I came on STAFF at North Boulevard, I began to have some conversations on gender with OUR senior minister, David Young.
Elders are the ONLY Pastor-Teacher and vocational deacons are the only ministers.
MONEY TALKS: JESUS DIED TO REMOVE THE MONEY CHANGERS.
Staff meaning any of God's assistants such as speakers, singers or instrument players are defined as SORCERERS (Revelation 18) and their body snatching is on the way to being cast alive into the lake of fire. Staff beyond elders and deacons are called PARASITES.
GOD'S HOLY SPIRIT DEFINING THE FUTURE FREE SCHOOL OF CHRIST.
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Isa 33:1 WOE to thee that spoilest [pillage], and thou wast not spoiled; [fleeced]
........and dealest treacherously,
................and they dealt not treacherously with thee
........when thou shalt cease to spoil,
................thou shalt be spoiled;
........and when thou shalt make an end to deal treacherously,
............... they shall deal treacherously with thee.
Is. 33:18 Thine heart shall
meditate mĕdĭtor promote by meditation, Vulg. Isa. 33, 18.— modo
mŏdus 2. The measure of tones, measure, rhythm, melody, harmony, time; in poetry, measure, metre, mode: “vocum,” Cic. Div. 2, 3, 9: “musici,” Quint. 1, 10, 14: “lyrici,” saltare ad tibicinis modos, to the music or sound of the flute, Liv. 7, 2:
WITH
loquor Against Faithful Churches of Christ pergin male loqui, mulier, mihi,
“quas tu mulieres quos tu parasitos loquere,
1. Effeminate
2. părăsītus , i, m., = parasitos, lit. one who eats with another; hence,
parasitus Phoebi, a player, actor, II. In partic., in a bad sense, one who, by flattery and buffoonery, manages to live at another's expense, a sponger, toad-eater, parasiteThe tutelar deity of parasites was Hercules, Plaut. Curc. 2, 3, 79.
3. Speaker
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Those with the gear enwombed in crates dark orgies ordained—
Orgies that ears profane must vainly lust for o'er hearing—
Others with palms on high smote hurried strokes on the cymbal,
Or from the polisht brass woke thin-toned tinkling music,
While from the many there boomed and blared hoarse blast of the horn-trump,
And with its horrid skirl loud shrilled the barbarous bag-pipe
carmen (sc. Apollinem) concordant carmina nervis,
Ăpollo
Apollōn, Apollo, son of Jupiter and Latona, twinbrother of Diana, and god of the sun.
god of poetry and music, presiding over the Muses, , represented with weapons, the cithara, a crown of laurel, etc., with hair commonly flowing down upon his neck, but sometimes collected together and fastened u
Never in recorded history did PSALLO mean musical MELODY. The Spirit guiding the writers would have been smart enough (now refuted) to have used the Greek Word:
melē, ta, lyric poetry, choral songs,
melos , eos, to,
Opposite Epic or Dramatic verse, [There is no lyric Bible material]
2. music to which a song is set, tune, Arist.Po.1450a14;
Opposite. rhuthmos,
Opposite metron, Pl.Grg. 502c; Karikon = worthless, funeral song, dirge,
Plat. Gorg. 502c she is bent rather upon pleasure and the gratification of the spectators.
Socrates
Pray then, if we strip any kind of poetry of its melody, its rhythm and its meter, we get mere speeches as the residue, do we not?
Opposite --rhuthmos , Ion. rhusmos ho: (rheō):—A. any regular recurring motion [the LADED BURDEN]
I. measured motion, time, whether in sound or motion 2. special phrases: en rhuthmō in time, of dancing, marching, rhythm, Opposite metron and harmonia, Ar. Nu.638 sq
Opposite: rhēma,
Logos IV. inward debate of the soul, reflection, deliberation
A.that which is said or spoken, word, saying Pour out
3. subject of speech, matter rhētos
Regulative and formative forces, derived from the intelligible and operative in the sensible universe,
VI. verbal expression or utterance, lego, lexis
-Lexis A.speech, OPPOSITE ôidê
-ôidê, 1.art of song 5. = eppsdê, spell, incantation
4. text of an author, OPPOSITE exegesis [Peter's private interpretation outlaws exegesis]Arist.En1142a262. Opposite ergmata, Pi.N.4.6; opp. ergon, Th.5.111; business, occupation
Like the Cretans
Krēt-ikos , ē, on, Cretan fashion so egeire . . , Mousa, K. “melos” Cratin.222; to K. (sc. metron) Heph.13.1; K. rhuthmos, rhuthmoi, D.H.Comp.25, Str.10.4.16.
Strab. 10.4.16 I mean the Pyrrhic dance, so that not even their sports were without a share in activities that were useful for warfare; and likewise that they should use in their songs the Cretic rhythms, which were very high pitched, and were invented by Thales, to whom they ascribe, not only their Paeans [paianas Apollōni Paiani”] and other local songs [ ōdas], but also many of their institutions; and that they should use military dress and shoes; and that arms should be to them the most valuable of gifts.
cŭpĭdĭtas pecuniae, 1. A passionate desire for money or other possessions; avarice, cupidity, covetousness: “ d. The lust of power, ambition terror. tĭmor fear,
Taking MY frustrations seriously, he encouraged ME to dig into Scripture and see what I found there. He engaged ME in several conversations about what I was learning.
At about the same time,I was reading The Reason for God by Tim Keller and came across this passage
that changed how I was approaching the topic of gender.
Now, what happens if you eliminate anything from the Bible that offends your sensibility and crosses your will?
If you pick and choose what you want to believe and reject the rest, how will you ever have a God who can contradict you? ...
Only if your God can say things that outrage you and make you struggle (as in real friendship or marriage!) will you know that you have gotten hold of a real God and not a figment of your imagination. So an authoritative Bible is not the enemy of a personal relationship with God.It is the precondition for it. 136GOD IS NOT PSYCHOTIC.
1Cor. 11:19 For there must be also heresies among you,WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU PLAN TO OFFEND THOSE PEOPLE SHOWING UP AS "EMPTY PEWS"
that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.
Luke 17:2 It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck,
and he cast into the sea,
than that he should offend one of these little ones.
John 6:61 When Jesus knew in himself that his disciples murmured at it,
he said unto them, Doth this offend you?
John 6:62 What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?
John 6:63 It is the SPIRIT that quickeneth;
he flesh profiteth nothing:
the words that I speak unto you, they are SPIRIT, and they are life.
John 6:64 But there are some of you that believe not.
For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not,
and who should betray him.
John 6:65 And he said, Therefore said I unto you,
that no man can come unto me,
except it were given unto him of my Father.
1Cor. 8:13 Wherefore, if meat make my brother to offend,
I will eat no flesh while the world standeth, lest I make my brother to offend.
James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law,
and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
James 3:2 For in many things we offend all. If any man offend not in word, the same is a perfect man, and able also to bridle the whole body.
What happens if you offend all other city congregations on TV?
Did Holy Scripture and recorded history warn about the RARE female just to outrage you?I needed to look again at the texts that talked about gender in marriage and church and let them offend ME. (And they did, at first!) However, what I eventually discovered was that I wasn't egalitarian, after all. I was using the word egalitarian in response to the heavy-handed complementarianism in my church and schools.
The elders, rational-minded, are supposed to PREVENT this wrath or ORGY.
Scripture portrayed a beautiful, broad complementarianism that was empowering and valuable for men and women.
THAT IS A DIRECT CONTRADICTION OF THE BIBLE AS THE ONLY RATIONALE OR PRETENSE TO BE ITS SPOKESMAN.
IF A CHURCH HAD AN EPISTLE THE DIRECT COMMAND WAS TO READ IT.
A PROPHET WAS ORDAINED BY THE HANDS OF AN APOSTLE. ONLY SUCH PROPHETS COULD "SPEAK SCRIPTURE BY INSPIRATION."
THERE MIGHT BE ONLY ONE PROPHET ALONG WITH WORKERS OF MIRACLES IN A CHURCH.
A PREACHER IS DEFINED AS AN EYE-- WITNESS AND TAUGHT BY JESUS. AFTER SCRIPTURE WERE COMPLETE BY GOD-SENT SCRIBES, THE ONLY DECENT AND IN ORDER THING LEFT WAS TO READ IT.
JESUS DIDN'T WHINE THAT HE DIDN'T GET THE RIGHT TO MAKE UP SERMONSTHE CHURCH IS DEFINED AS AN EKKLESIA. Both the civil and religious ekklesia met about 50 times during the year.
John 7:16 Jesus answered them, and said,
My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.
John 7:17 If any man will do his will,
he shall know of the doctrine,
whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.
John 7:18 He that SPEAKETH OF HIMSELF SEEKETH HIS (HER) OWN GLORY.
but he that seeketh his glory that sent him,
the same is true, and no unrighteousness is in him.
JESUS DENIED THAT REBELLOUS PEOPLE ARE CHRISTIANS-DISCIPLES-STUDENTS ONLY.
John 8:28 Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man,
then shall ye know that I am he,
and that I do nothing of myself;
but as my Father hath TAUGHT me, I SPEAK these things.
John 8:29 And he that sent me is with me:
the Father hath not left me alone;
for I do always those things that please him.
John 8:30 As he spake these words, many believed on him.
John 8:31 Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him,
IF ye continue in my word,
THEN are ye my disciples indeed;
John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth,
and the truth shall make you free.
GOD HIDES FROM THE WISE: SOPHISTS, RHETORIC, MUSIC OR SCENIC DISPLAYS
John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil
and the lusts of your father ye will do.
He was a murderer from the beginning,
and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him.
When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own:
or he is a liar, and the father of it.
FIRST CORINTHIANS SILENCES WOMEN WHO THINK THAT TRUTH BEGAN WITH THEM
1Cor. 14:31 For ye may all prophesy one by one,
THAT ALL MAY LEARN, and all may be COMFORTED.
THERE ARE NO PRETEND PROPHETS HAPPY TO SOW MASSIVE DISCORD.
1Cor. 14:32 And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets.
1Cor. 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
1Cor. 14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches:
for it is not permitted unto them to speak;
but they are commanded to be under obedience,
as also saith the law.
MEN WOULD BE TRAINED IN THE SYNAGOGUE SCHOOL TO BE SILENT DURING READING.
1Cor. 14:35 And if they will LEARN any thing,
let them ask their husbands at home:
for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
1Cor. 14:36 WHAT? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?
1Cor. 14:37 If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual,
let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you
are the commandments of the Lord.
The ekklesia, and synagogue, discussed ONLY laws handed down from a higher authority. The Synagogue never permittedany personal opinions.
Acts 15:21 For Moses of old time hath in every cityThe elders have been intimidated into silence because the RACA words have made them shudder in place.
them that preach him,
being read in the synagogues every sabbath day. [Once each week]
Luke 4:16 And he came to Nazareth,
where he had been brought up: [educated]
and, as his custom was, [pattern]
he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day,
and stood up for to READ.
AND AT A CHURCH NEAR YOU WHERE ELDERS HAVE BEEN SILENCED BY THE FEMININE AND EFFEMINATE.
Acts 13:27 For they that dwell at Jerusalem, and their RULERS,
because they knew him not,
nor yet the voices of the prophets
which are read every sabbath day,
they have fulfilled them in condemning him
Sproles: After David Young and I began to have more and more conversations about gender and the church,
HE became more intentional in engaging the women
on staff at OUR weekly meetings and other team settings.
THEY HAVE SILENCED THE ELDERS WHO ARE THE ONLY AUTHORIZE MEETING ATTENDERS.
When you come from a long TRADTION of rigid complementarianism, this is no small thing. Women were invited to pray or read Scripture alongside men in meetings, and WE were always viewed as valuable members of the STAFF.
CALLING SCRIPTURES AND 2000 YEARS OF UNDERSTANDING A "TRADITION" THAT IS PSYCHOLOOGICAL VIOLENCE DARING ANYONE TO OPPOSE YOU.
OUR voices and opinions were heard and respected.
212O This was an excellent STEP in embracing the freedoms of complementarity WE find in scripture
THAT'S A BURNABLE OFFENSE: IT IS REPUDIATING OF SCRIPTURE AND MEN
I also encourage leaders in rigidly complementarian churches to not back down just because your church is overreaching in its application of 1 Timothy 2 or 1Corinthians 14.
MEANING "YOU ARE COWARDS IF YOU JUST READ THE SCRIPTURES AND GRASP THAT WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO YOU IS WHAT PAUL WARNED ABOUT."
Please repent of the church's past mistakes and teach us the beautiful complementarity
DAVID AND THE RULING WOMEN HAVE ALREADY DONE THAT?
1Tim. 2:3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;
1Tim. 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved,
and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
1Tim. 2:5 For there is ON GOD and
one mediator between God and men,
the MAN Christ Jesus;
Jesus is perfect present Teacher, Intercessor, Mediator, Comforter but only to the twos and threes escape outside the city in secret and silent places to REST and "LEARN OF ME."1Tim. 2:6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.
Renee Sproles did not give herself as a ransom to purchase or create a kingdom. She hasn't left a LAST WILL AND TESTAMENT to be READ-ONLY to the HEIRS.
1Tim. 2:7 Whereunto I am ordained a preacher, and an apostle,
(I speak the truth in Christ, and lie not;)
a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and verity.
ONLY PROFANE PEOPLE WOULD WANT TO ALTER THE "LAST WILL AND TESTAMENT" OF JESUS.
Culture cannot change those who are LEARNERS and not SEEKERS.
1Tim. 2:9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel,
with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair,
or gold, or pearls, or costly array;
1Tim. 2:10 But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works.
1Tim. 2:11 Let the woman LEARN in SILENCE with all subjection.
1Tim. 2:12 But I suffer not a woman to teach,
nor to usurp AUTHORITY over the man, but to be in silence.
1Tim. 2:13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve
Eve was WHOLLY SEDUCED by the Devil and Cain (from a musical note) was OF that wicked one
Paul warned that women who wanted to speak in a school of Christ might not be saved and her children might be students of evil.
THE AUTHORITY ONLY A TINY NUMBER OF MEN OR WOMEN LUST FOR.
A woman will not be SAFE in bearing children and nether will her offspring: exposing the child to die is not as vile as exposing a child to false teaching.
Authent-ēs [1] A. murderer more loosely, one of a murderer's family, [or church]
2. perpetrator, author, “praxeōs” Plb.22.14.2; “hierosulias
[A Temple Robber or a robber of faithful churches to join the instrumental sectarians] “dēmos authentēs khthonos”
praxis action in drama, opp. logos,[2] “dēmos authentē khthonos” 3. Earth, as a goddess, E.Supp.442 A.Pr.207, Eu.6.
3. euphem. for sexual intercourse, Pi. Fr.127, Aeschin.1.158, etc.; in full, “hē p. hē gennētikē” Arist.HA539b20.4. magical operation, spellaction in drama, opp. logos,
Aeschin. 1 158 Or what Athenian was not indignant at Cephisodorus, called Molon's son, for having ruined his surpassing beauty by a most infamous life? Or Mnesitheus, known as the cook's son? Or many others, whose names I am willing to forget?phōn-ē , hē, 4. of sounds made by inanimate objects, mostly Poet., “kerkidos ph.” S.Fr.595; “suriggōn” E.Tr.127 (lyr.); “aulōn” Mnesim.4.56 (anap.); rare in early Prose, “organōn phōnai” Pl.R.397a; freq. in LXX, “hē ph. tēs salpiggos” LXX Ex.20.18; ph. brontēs ib. Ps.103(104).7; “hē ph. autou hōs ph. hudatōn pollōn” Apoc.1.15.
E.Tr.127 (ly You swift-prowed ships, rowed to sacred Ilium over the deep dark sea, [125] past the fair havens of Hellas, to the flute's ill-omened music and the dulcet voice of pipes, [130] to the bays of Troy, alas! where you tied your hawsers, twisted handiwork from Egypt, in quest of that hateful wife of Menelaus, who brought disgrace on Castor, and on Eurotas foul reproach; who murdered....[150] I once sang to the gods, as I leaned on Priam's staff and beat with my foot in Phrygian time to lead the dance!
Exodus 20.18 [18] All the people perceived the thunderings, the lightnings, the sound of the trumpet, and the mountainJ
[7] ab increpatione tua fugient a voce tonitrui tui formidabunt [8] ascendunt montes et descendunt campi in locum quem fundasti eisPlat. Lach. 192a quickness, [ērōtōn] as we find it in running and harping [kitharizein], in speaking and learning 2. practice, i.e. trickery, treachery, VIII. discourse, lecture of a rhetorician or philosopher, Jul.Or.2.59c,
“authenta hēlie identified with Apollon
A.Ag.576; hupo khthonos, of the nether world, “Tartaro
.the nether world generally, Hes.Sc.255
[3] 2. perpetrator, author, “praxeōs” Plb.22.14.2; “hierosulias
[A Temple Robber or a robber of faithful churches to join the instrumental sectarians] “dēmos authentēs khthonos”
praxis action in drama, opp. logos,
3. euphem. for sexual intercourse, Pi. Fr.127, Aeschin.1.158, etc.; in full, “hē p. hē gennētikē” Arist.HA539b20.4. magical operation, spellaction in drama, opp. logos,
Plat. Lach. 192a quickness, [ērōtōn] as we find it in running and harping [kitharizein], in speaking and learning 2. practice, i.e. trickery, treachery, VIII. discourse, lecture of a rhetorician or philosopher, Jul.Or.2.59c,[4] “dēmos authentē khthonos” 3. Earth, as a goddess, E.Supp.442 A.Pr.207, Eu.6.
ores-teros , a, on, poet. for oreinos, epith. of a snake, Il.22.93 ; of wolves and lions, Od.10.212 ; A.“orestera pambōti ga” S.Ph.391 (lyr.); “parthenos” E.Tr.551 (lyr.); “agreutēres” Opp.H.4.586. (Posit. Adj. formed from oros (to), opp. agroteros from agros.)
agr-eutēs , ou, ho,A hunter, epith. of Apollo as slayer of Python, S.OC1091(lyr.), PFlor.297.19 (vi A.D.): metaph., of sleep, “a. ptēnou phasmatos” AP12.125 (Mel.).II. Adj., kunes a. hounds, Sol.23; a. kalamoi a fowler's trap of reeds, AP7.171 (Mnasalc
A Kunes is a word of reproach against Helen, yapping dogs, Catamites
HH 30 To Earth the Mother of All
JEANENE P. REESE In the Genesis account God made the woman to be a helper/partner to the man. Yet God commanded Adam to leave father and mother and cleave to his wife (2:24), a directive that “counteracts a patriarchal culture, which would command the wife instead.” 5 Evans notes that the word “cleave” used in Gen 2:24 “is used almost universally for a WEAKER cleaving to a stronger.
Adam became subject to the soil from which he had been taken.
Eve became subject to Adam from whom she had been taken. .
She says that SATAN instead of God is the Guilty Party: . .
As a result of Satan’s work man was now master over woman,
just as the MO
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