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Matt Dabbs: Aslan is on the Move – A Discipleship Movement Has Already Begun in Churches of Christ

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Sorry Rip Van Winkle but Jesus beat you to it.   Aslan is Satan or Lucifer.  Jesus defines Scripture as the Prophets and other prophecies "concerning me." He made these more certain and Peter outlawed private interpretation or FURTHER EXPOUNDING which would blaspheme the Spirit OF GOD.

God put His WORDS directly into the MOUTH OF Moses, the Prophets and FINALLY Jesus. SPIRIT is a PARABLE to help mortals understand.  Jesus defined Holy Scripture of those passages CONCERNING ME.

God defined the role of Christ to fulfill those prophecies and the Apostles as eye-- and ear-- witnesses to leave us a MEMORY.

By definition a Christian is a Disciple who is a Student: the only CHARACTER MODIFICATION is receiving A holy spirit or A good CONSCIOUSNESS to enable them to read BLACK text on BROWN paper (2 Corinthians 3]

Is. 8:9 ASSOCIATE yourselves, O ye people,
        and ye shall be broken in pieces;
        and give ear, all ye of far countries:
        gird yourselves, and ye shall be broken in pieces;
        gird yourselves, and ye shall be broken in pieces.
Is. 8:10 Take counsel together, and it shall come to nought; s
        peak the word, and it shall not stand: for God is with us.
Is. 8:11 For the Lord SPAKE thus to me with a strong HAND,
        and instructed me that I should not walk in the way of this people, saying,
Is. 8:12 Say ye not, A confederacy, to all them to whom this people shall say,
        A confederacy; neither fear ye their fear, nor be afraid.
Is. 8:13 Sanctify the Lord of hosts himself;
        and let him be your fear, and let him be your dread.
Is. 8:14 And he shall be for a sanctuary;
        but for a stone of stumbling and for a ROCK of offence to both the houses of Israel,
         for a gin and for a snare to the inhabitants of Jerusalem.
Is. 8:15 And many among them shall stumble, and fall,
        and be broken, and be snared, and be taken.
Is. 8:16 Bind up the TESTIMONY, seal the law among my disciples.
Is. 8:17 And I will wait upon the Lord,
        that hideth his face from the house of Jacob, and I will look for him.
Jesus was sent to rescue a small band of LOST SPIRITS: They are pilgrims and sojourners IN the World but not OF the World. 
DISCIPLESHIP is to GO throughout the WORLD and preach the gospel of REST and SAFETY.  The WORD is the Logos or Regulative Principle. It OUTLAWS spersonal experiences, personal opinions, rhetoric, singing, playing instruments or acting.  Thes a the MARKS of the Ecumenical or the kingdom of Satan (Aslan)


FIRST, YOU HAVE TO SILENCES THE SORCERERS, WITCHES AND OTHER PARASITES. Save your breath: Jesus was sent for a small SECT of lost spirits. They are IN the World but not OF the World and "entertaining the goats" will not get you educated lambs.

Is. 8:18 Behold, I and the children whom the Lord hath given
        me are for signs and for wonders in Israel from the Lord of hosts, which dwelleth in mount Zion.
Is. 8:19 And when they shall say unto you, SEEK unto them that have familiar spirits,
        and unto wizards that peep, and that mutter:
         should not a people seek unto their God? for the living to the dead?
Is. 8:20 To the law and to the testimony:
         if they speak not according to this word,
        it is because there is no light in them.
Is. 8:21 And they shall pass through it, hardly bestead and hungry:
        and it shall come to pass, that when they shall be hungry, t
        hey shall fret themselves, and curse their king and their God, and look upward.
Is. 8:22 And they shall look unto the earth; and behold trouble and darkness,
        dimness of anguish; and they shall be driven to darkness.


goēs , A. sorcerer, wizard, Phoronis 2, Hdt.2.33,4.105, Pl.R. 380d,  “g. epōdos Ludias apo khthonosE.Ba.234, cf. Hipp.1038. for boēsi Hdt.7.191.
2. juggler, cheat,deinos g. kai pharmakeus kai sophistēs Pl.Smp.203d; “deinon kai g. kai sophistēn . . onomazōnD.18.276; “apistos g. ponērosId.19.109; “magos kai g.Aeschin.3.137
sophis-tēs , ou, ho,
A.master of one's craft, adept, expert, of diviners, Hdt.2.49; of poets, “meletan sophistais prosbalonPi.I.5(4).28, cf. Cratin.2; of musicians, “sophistēs . . parapaiōn khelun” [turtle harp] A.Fr.314, cf. Eup.447, Pl.Com. 140; sophistē Thrēki (sc. Thamyris) E.Rh.924, cf. Ath.14.632c: with modal words added, “hoi s. tōn hierōn melōnAel.NA11.1; of the Creator of the universe (ho dēmiourgos, panu thaumaston legeis s. Pl.R.596d; of cooks, “eis tous s. ton mageiron eggraphōAlex.149.14, cf. Euphro 1.11; hoi tēn hippeian s. skilled in . . , Ael.NA13.9: metaph., s. pēmatōn deviser, contriver of pains, E.Heracl.993:—then,
3. later of the rhētores, Professors of Rhetoric, and prose writers of the Empire, such as Philostratus and Libanius, Suid.; “Apollōnidē sophistēPLips. 97 X 18 (iv A.D.); freq. as a title in epitaphs, IG3.625,637,680,775, 14.935.
Isaiah 14:12 speaks how Lucifer (Satan) is fallen from Heaven. The prophecy says: "How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!" In Luke 10:18, Jesus said that He saw Satan fall from heaven. Luke 10:18 — "And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven." Revelation 12 goes on to say how Satan was cast out of heaven with his angels.
Revelation 12:9 — "And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan,
        which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him."

Apollo, Apollon, Apollyon leads the LOCUSTS or His musical worship team: dirty females.

Rev. 12:8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
Rev. 12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven,
        Now is come salvation, and strength,
        and the kingdom of our God,
        and the power of his Christ:
        for the accuser of our brethren is cast down,
        which accused them before our God day and night.
Rev. 12:11 And they overcame him by the BLOOD of the Lamb,
        and by the WORD of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.

SPIRIT produces TESTIMONY of Christ and not to clergy: CASTING VISIONS IS SORCERY

Rev. 19:10 And I fell at his feet to worship him.
        And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant,
        and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship
        God: for the TESTIMONY of Jesus is the SPIRIT of prophec
These same evil spirits go forth seeking whom they may devour.
1Pet. 5:8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil,
        as a roaring LION, walketh about, seeking whom he may DEVOUR:
1Pet. 5:9 Whom resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world.

YOU DON'T NEED A CLERGY TO DISCIPLE PEOPLE BY TEACHING WHAT HE COMMANDED TO BE TAUGHT.
Church is a SAFE HOUSE while the storms rage: the kingdom does not come with observation meaning religious observations.

Isaiah 32:1 Behold, a king shall reign in righteousness,
        and princes shall rule in judgment.
Isaiah 32:2 And a man shall be as an hiding place from the wind, [spirit of devils]
        and a covert from the tempest;
        as rivers of water in a dry place,
        as the shadow of a great rock [^tra] in a wearyland.

Abs-condo  to put away, conceal carefully, hide, secrete (the access. idea of a careful concealmen
B. In gen., to make invisible, to cover: “fluvium et campos caede,” 

Tempestas  , a time, season, period, weather  2.  A storm, shower, i. e. a throng, multitude, etc.: “querelarum,Cic. Pis. 36, 89: “turbida telorum,Verg. A. 12, 284;

cēlo , to hide something from one, to keep secret, to conceal;
hospĭtālis , e, adj. hospes, I. of or relating to a guest or host, hospitable
a. Apartments for guests, guest-chambers, Vitr. 6, 10.—

umbra 4. A shade, shady place, that which gives a shade or shadow (as a tree, house, tent, “studia in umbrā educata,in the closet, study, Tac. A. 14, 53; cf.: “rhetorica,” i. e. the rhetorician's school, Juv. 7, 173\
C.  Rest, leisure:ignavā Veneris cessamus in umbrā,Ov. Am. 2, 18, 3
stŭdĭum I. a busying one's self about or application to a thing; assiduity, zeal, eagerness, fondness, inclination, desire, exertion, endeavor, study (b). A place for study, a study, school (late Lat.): “philosophum (se egit) in omnibus studiis, templis, locis,

doctrīna , ae, f. doctor,
I.teaching, instruction (class.; cf.: litterae, artes, disciplina, praecepta, scientia, humanitas).
A. Object., the knowledge imparted by teaching, i. e. science, erudition, learning
B. Subject., the habit produced by instruction, principle: “mala studia malaeque doctrinae,Cic. Leg. 2, 15 fin.: “neque id fecit naturā solum, sed etiam doctrinā,Nep. Att. 17, 3.
Sabba^t-ismos , ho, A.a keeping of days of rest, Ep. Hebr.4.9, cf. Plu.2.166a (codd., baptismous Bentley).
skholē , , A.leisure, rest, ease,

schŏla (scŏla ), ae, f., = skholē (spare time, leisure; hence, in partic.),
I. Leisure given to learning, a learned conversation or debate, a disputation, lecture, dissertation, etc.

skhol-azō , A.to have leisure or spare time, to be at leisure, have nothing to do, Devote oneself to a Master: Jesus is the ONLY Master Teacher even when Senior Pastors claim that THEY are.
II. s. apo tinos have rest or respite from a thing, cease from doing, X.Cyr. 7.5.52; apo tou Krōmnou were set free from the operations at K., Id.HG7.4.28; also “s. ergōn Plu.Nic.28.
s. kalōs
spend one's leisure well, Id.Pol.1337b31; s. eleutheriōs kai sōphronōs ib.1326b31:
3. abs., devote oneself to learning: hence, give lectures (cf. “skholē
peri logousPlu.Brut.22; “pros ennoia . . pros hautonId.Num.14.
esp. of students, study, attend lectures, devote oneself to a master, attend his lecture
3. abs., devote oneself to learning: hence, give lectures (cf. “skholē11), Apollon.Perg. Con. 1 Praef.; “s. AthēnēsinPhld.Rh.1.95 S.; “en Lukeiō

The SOLE words are to READ or listen to the READING of the Word only.
Anagignōskō 
2. know again, recognize, Od.4.250; once in Hdt., acknowledge, own,
of written characters, know them again, and so, read, anagignōskontesstudents, Plu.Alex. Pass., ta biblia ta anegnōsmena books read aloud, hence, PUBLISHED, opp. ta anekdota,

ASLAN OR SATAN NEEDS HELP: JESUS DOES NOT

Post-Modern means that it is not a lie because our culture has changed its standards and WE must "be all things to all things." In fact it is pretty easy to lie TO and about JESUS as, contrary to Russ Adcox, the only Authoritative Teacher.

Matthew 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying,
        All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
Matthew 28:19 Go [IMPERATIVE] ye therefore,
        and TEACH all nations,
        baptizing them in the name [singular] of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:


Collecting masses to a "worship service" devoted to performance preaching, singing, playing instruments or acting is a DIRECT VIOLATION by those who are not devoted to GOING.

-Por-euō , fut. I. Act., make to go, carry, convey, by land or water
2. of things, bring, carry, FURNISH “epistolas patriS.OC1602

The Purpose Driven Singular purpose (Ephesians 3) is to:
-Ma^thēt-euō ,  A.to be pupil, tini to one,  II. trans., make a disciple of, instruct, “panta ta ethnēEv.Matt.28.19, cf. Act.Ap.14.21:—Pass., Ev.Matt.13.52.
Acts 14.21  When they had preached the gospel to that city, and had made many disciples, they returned to Lystra, Iconium, and Antioch,

The Word TEACH includes teaching anything requiring information.  When Jesus speaks He asserts: He doesn't give worms any room to wriggle
-di^daskō have one taught or educated, especially of a father,
2. c. gen., indicate, give sign of,kheimōnos sunageiromenoio Arat.793, cf. 734.
II. abs., EXPLAIN,pōs ; didaxonA.Eu. 431; “saphōs d.Th.2.60, etc.; show by argument, PROVE,legōn didasketōX.An.5.7.11,
        Suna^geirō  gather together, assemble, to gather information
Gathering, Assemblying or Comming together are defined by Paul by the SYNAGOGUE Word.

He did not command Didasko: III. of dithyrambic and dramatic Poets (cf. “didaskalos 11), d. dithurambon, drama, produce a piece, Hdt.1.23, 6.21; “PersasAr.Ra.1026,  didaxasthai khoron train one's own chorus,  d. pollous [Many] aulētas,

Matthew 13.52  He said to them, "Therefore, every scribe who has been made a disciple in the Kingdom of Heaven is like a man who is a householder, who brings out of his treasure new and old things."

And here’s the kicker.  We have the resources to do it.  If every congregation committed to planting one church or multiplying by one campus in the next 5 years imagine the impact.  We have the resources.  The question is do we have the commitment?  The vision?  The courage to try something different?    

I know there are tons of issues to work through.  I know it’s not that simple.  I know these multiplying models aren’t perfect and haven’t stood the test of time yet.  But I’d rather go and do than sit and criticize.  It’s time to start thinking in new directions.  Christianity is always a generation away from becoming extinct, but when you consider the current pace of population growth, we may not have that much time A New Day

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People don’t start movements. God starts movements. When it seems people start movements, it is really them jumping into something God had been lining up for quite some time.

In the Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe when the children go through the magical wardrobe and find themselves in the land of Narnia they run into Mr. and Mrs. Beaver who tell them about Aslan, the lion.

“Aslan is a lion. The Lion. The great Lion.”

“Ooh” said Susan. “I’d thought he was a man. Is he-quite safe? I shall feel rather nervous about meeting a lion”

“Safe?” said Mr Beaver

“Who said anything about safe? ‘Course he isn’t safe. But he’s good. He’s the King, I tell you.”

Before the children ever met the Beavers or found their way through the wardrobe, past the coats and the mothballs…Aslan was already working. Four thrones had already been waiting. Prophesies had already been spoken and written.

The children walk into circumstances and situations that were already in motion and they needed to play their part in the bigger picture. They were just now becoming aware of the narrative arc, the current of the river, to be swept up in the story that they didn’t start but were caught in the middle of.

I believe “Aslan is on the move” today.

        I believe in the next 5-10 years our churches are going to be shaken up. Broken down. Put back together. Better.
Various factors are going to converge that will put us to the test.
        Some of this will result in division (for those who already have a divisive spirit)
        but some of it will result in greater unity.
        We will finally put first things first and leave behind some of the tired topics of the past (those will always have a home somewhere).
Because when you  LAUNCH into a movement some of the things that once seemed so important will be shown for what they are.
        It is hard to have water cooler conversations when the bullets are flying.

That would be ANTI-CHRISTIAN.  The World, Kosmos or Ecumenical is the Kingdom of Satan MOVING ON the kingdom of God.

The ancient Middle East constituted an ecumene. The term ecumene comes from the Greek word oikoumene, which means the inhabited world and designates a distinct cultural-historical community. The material effects of the commercial and cultural interconnections that permeated the component regions of the ancient Middle Eastern ecumene are richly supplied by archaeological excavations, which provide evidence of the spread of architectural, ceramic, metallurgical, and other products of ancient Middle Eastern man's industry.

Manufacturing and services tended to be monopolized by professional guilds, including religious personnel specializing in sacrifices, oracles, divination, and other kinds of priestcraft. The mobility of such guilds throughout the entire area helps to explain the spread of specific religious ideas and techniques over great distances. Just as guild potters spread ceramic forms and methods, so also guild priests spread their religious concepts and practices from the Indian Ocean to the Aegean Sea, and from the Nile River to Central Asia. The Greek poet Homer, in the Odyssey, noted the mobility of guildsmen, mentioning religious personnel as well as architects, physicians, and minstrels. Guild priests called kohanim were found at ancient Ugarit on the Mediterranean coast of northern Syria as well as in Israel. Moreover, Mycenaean Greek (late Bronze Age) methods of sacrifice are similar to the Hebraic methods, which are preserved in many countries to this day in the traditional techniques of Jewish ritual slaughter.

"The ancient Middle East made a place for homosexuality and bestiality in its myths and rites. In the Asherah cult the qedeshim priests had a reputation for homosexual practices, even as the qedeshot priestesses for prostitution. Israel eventually banned both the qedeshim and qedeshot, while in Ugarit the and kohanim were priestly guilds in equally good standing. Baal is portrayed in Ugaritic mythology as impregnating a heifer to sire the young bull god. The biblical book of Leviticus (18:22--27) bans homosexuality and bestiality expressly because the Canaanite population had been practicing those rites, which the Hebrews rejected as abominations. Middle Eastern Religion

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There is a movement afoot. It has been going on for some time but we have stood on the bank and watched the river rush past us, engaging in those same conversations and debates over and over again while our children wonder off into the woods. It is time to dive into the river and be swept up in God’s current. Where it takes us is for God to determine and for us to trust Him on.

Is. 28:15 Because ye have said, 
        We have made a covenant with death, [Marzeah in Amos re wine, women and music]
        and with hell are we at agreement;
        when the overflowing scourge shall pass through,
        it shall not come unto us:
        for we have made lies our refuge,
        and under falsehood have we hid ourselves:
Is. 28:16 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD,
        Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone,
        a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation:
        he that believeth shall not make haste.

Believeth is:

Aman (h539) aw-man'; a prim. root; prop. to build up or support; to foster as a parent or nurse; fig. to render (or be) firm or faithful, to trust or believe, to be permanent or quiet; mor. to be true or certain; once (Isa. 30:21; by interch. for 539) to go to the right hand: - hence assurance, believe, bring up, establish, / fail, be faithful (of long continuance, stedfast, sure, surely, trusty, verified), nurse, (-ing father), (put), trust, turn to the right.

Credo Orig. belonging to the lang. of business, to give as a loan, to loan, lend, make or loan to any one:
A.  With the prevailing idea of intended protection, to commit or consign something to one for preservation, protection, etc., to intrust to one, = committo, commendo (cf. concredo): B. With the prevailing idea of bestowing confidence, to trust to or confide in a person or thing, to have confidence in, to trust

Is. 28:17 Judgment also will I lay to the line, and righteousness to the plummet:
        and the hail shall sweep away the refuge of lies,
        and the waters shall overflow the hiding place.

To the Pythian Apollo:
182-206 - Leto"s (mother of Apollo) - all-glorious son goes to rocky Pytho [Serpent, Pythian spirit]
playing upon his hollow lyre, clad in divine, perfumed garments; and at the touch of the golden key his lyre sings sweet.
       Thence, swift as thought, he speeds from earth to Olympus, to the house of Zeus,
       to join the gathering of the other gods:

then straightway the undying gods think only of the lyre and song,
and all the Muses together, voice sweetly answering voice,
hymn the unending gifts the gods enjoy and the sufferings of men, all that they endure at the hands of the deathless gods,
and how they live
witless and helpless and cannot find healing for death or defence against old age.

Is. 28:18 And your covenant with death shall be disannulled,
        and your agreement with hell shall not stand;
        when the overflowing scourge shall pass through,
        then ye shall be trodden down by it.

Is. 14:11 Thy pomp is brought down to the grave, [Sheol, hell]
        and the noise of thy viols: the worm is spread under thee,
        and the maggots cover thee.
Amos 5:23 Take thou away from me the noise of thy songs;
        for I will not hear the melody of thy viols

2172.  zimrah, zim-raw´; from 2167; a musical piece or song to be accompanied by an instrument:—melody, psalm.

What is the movement? Where has God already been working and preparing the soil?

It is a discipleship movement.

We have shunned it for fear of repeating the mistakes of the past. We branded others false teachers for abuses with discipleship and even the word makes some of us quite nervous. But people messing it up doesn’t make the concept unbiblical or unimportant.

Remember what C.S. Lewis told us, Aslan isn’t safe. Discipleship will challenge our current, institutional structures. That is sorely needed. This will cost our old systems something but like Jesus said,

“unless a kernel of wheat falls to the ground and dies, it remains only a single seed. But if it dies, it produces many seeds. 25 Anyone who loves their life will lose it, while anyone who hates their life in this world will keep it for eternal life. 26 Whoever serves me must follow me; and where I am, my servant also will be. My Father will honor the one who serves me.”

John 12:24-26
A half Truth is a full lie:

John 12:21 The same came therefore to Philip, which was of Bethsaida of Galilee,
         and desired him, saying, Sir, we would see Jesus.
John 12:22 Philip cometh and telleth Andrew: and again Andrew and Philip tell Jesus.
John 12:23 And Jesus answered them, saying,
        The hour is come, that the Son of man should be glorified.
John 12:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you,
        Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone:
         but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit.
John 12:25 He that loveth his life shall lose it;
        and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal.
John 12:26 If any man serve me
        let him follow me; and where I am,
        there shall also my servant be:
        if any man serve me, him will my Father honour.

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John 12:42 Nevertheless among the chief rulers also many believed on him; but because of the Pharisees
[theologians Saved From----

    they did not confess him,
    lest they should be put out of the synagogue
Luke 7:29 And all the people that heard him,
     and the publicans,

justified God, [affirmed his right to command] being baptized with the baptism of John.
John 12:43 For they loved the praise of men more than the praise of God.
John 12:44 Jesus cried and said, He that believeth on me, believeth not on me, but on him that sent me. [God]
John 12:45 And he that seeth me seeth him that sent me. 

Jesus was the IMAGE of God the Father



WE ARE
SAVED FROM---

Luke 7:30 But the Pharisees and lawyers
rejected the counsel of God against themselves, [Denied His Right]
being not baptized of him

Luke 7:31 And the Lord [Son] said,
Whereunto
then shall I liken the MEN of this generation? and to what are they like?

Pharisees, Scribes, Hypocrites: rhetoricians, singers, instrument players Ezek 33
John 12:46 I am come a light into the world, that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness.
      John 3:20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. [Christ has His Spirit WITHIN Him]
Luke 7:32 They are like unto children sitting in the marketplace, and calling one to another, and saying, We have piped unto you, and ye have not danced; we have mourned to you, and ye have not wept

 

John 12:37  But though he had done so many miracles before them, yet they believed not on him:
John 12:38 That the saying of Esaias the prophet might be fulfilled,
        which he spake, Lord, who hath believed our report?
        and to whom hath the arm of the Lord been revealed?
John 12:39 Therefore they could not believe, because that Esaias said again,
John 12:40 He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart;
        that they should not see with their eyes,
        nor understand with their heart,
        and be converted, and I should heal them.
John 12:41 These things said Esaias, when he saw his glory, and spake of him.
John 12:42 Nevertheless among the chief rulers
        also many believed on him;
        but because of the Pharisees they did not confess him,
        lest they should be put out of the synagogue:
John 12:43 For they loved the praise of men more than the praise of God.


Allow me to take a few minutes to cast some vision, reflections on what I see happening. I want to map out what I see unfolding. This isn’t my vision. This isn’t my direction. I didn’t start it and I don’t get to direct it. But I want to be caught up in the middle of what God has already started and be faithful to the work He is calling us to.

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THESIS: The SOLE role of an Ekklesia or Synagogue of Christ.

2Timothy 4:2 Preach the WORD; be instant in season, out of season;
        reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
TO PROTECT AGAINST THE PAGAN ANTITHESIS

2Timothy 4:3 For [I mean that]  the time will come
        when they will not endure sound doctrine;
      
  but after their own lusts
Hugiano  2. to be sound of mind, teachings
3.  of soundness in political or religious matters, esp. in part., “to hugiainon tēs HelladosId.7.15; hoi hugiainontes,

Opposite
. turbulent agitators, Plb.28.17.12;
Opposite Kamno work
hopē anthrōpos ekameBerl.Sitzb. 1927.158 (Cyrene).--The pf. is always intr. (Cf. Skt. śamnīte 'work hard', 'serve zealously', śamitár- 'sacrificing priest', Gr. eiro-komos, komeō, komizō.)


First
, we need to be re-taught discipleship from a biblical perspective. This will help us see discipleship as normal. We will see it as first-century and not late 20th century (Boston). With our culture and way of reading the Bible in Churches of Christ it will be essential to start off showing just how biblical this is.

Matt Dabbs is speaking of a Discipling Dilemna where people are cut off into a mind altering process to change their personality.  They are then to confront people using their tricks to get people to sign up as a Dues Paying Member of an institution.  That despises God and His Word which is blasphemy by refusing to follow His pattern. The only resource for an honest evangelists is to teach that which has been taught.  That is a sign to lost spirits which cannot be seduced into a WORLD VIE

God ALWAYS puts His WORD into the MOUTH of Prophets and lastly into the Mouth of Jesus.  God as WORD becomes visible and Audible when Jesus articulates what He hears directly from the Father with NO SPIRIT GOD as Mediator.  Miriam was slapped with a dose of Leprosy when she claimed that her instrumental prophesying or SORCERY was God speaking through her.  God through Jesus speaks face to face and mouth and has not appeared to and made visible to David Young as He did to Paul as the Spirit OF Christ.

Nehemiah 9:20 Thou gavest also thy
        GOOD SPIRIT to INSTRUCT them,
        and withheldest not thy manna from their mouth,
        and gavest them water for their thirst.

Isaiah 34:16 Seek ye out of the book of the LORD, and read:
        no one of these shall fail, none shall want her mate:
        for my MOUTH it hath commanded,
        and his SPIRIT it hath gathered them.
Is. 59:20 And the Redeemer shall come to Zion,
        and unto them that turn from transgression in Jacob, saith the Lord.

Is. 59:21 As for me, this is my covenant with them, saith the Lord;
        My SPIRIT that is upon thee,
        and my WORDS which I have put in thy MOUTH,
        shall not depart out of THY mouth,
        nor out of the mouth of thy SEED,
        nor out of the mouth of thy SEED'S SEED saith the Lord,
        from henceforth and for ever

If I can be blunt I believe discipleship is the most biblical thing we want nothing to do with.

There is no role to DISCIPLE people to join a Religious Observation because the Kingdom will not be there.  Evangelists are to GO and see Lost Spirits and they will respond by the SECRET Code word of the gospel.

Second, once we are convinced that this is biblical and something we should be doing I believe we will need to start into discussions that focus on how we can help each other grow closer to Jesus. This won’t be a program. This won’t be a 12 step plan. This won’t be a book (books will help but won’t be the solution. You can’t just read about it and think you did it). This will be organic. The only way for that to happen is for us to renew our concern for one another. I think that has been lacking in many ways.

Rom. 1:2 (Which he had promised afore by his PROPHETS in the holy scriptures,) [Not David]
Rom. 1:3 Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord,
        which was made of the seed of David according to the FLESH;
Rom. 1:4 And declared to be the Son of God with power,
        according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:
Rom. 1:5 By whom we have received grace and apostleship,
        for OBEDIENCE to THE FAITH faith among all nations, for his name:
Rom. 1:6 Among whom are ye also the called of Jesus Christ:
Rom. 1:7 To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints:
        Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.
Rom. 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ:
        for IT is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth;
        to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

Rom. 16:25 Now to him that is of power to stablish you according
        to my gospel,
        and the preaching of Jesus Christ,
        according to the revelation of the mystery,
        which was kept secret since the world began,

Rom. 16:26 But now is made manifest,
        and by the scriptures of the PROPHETS,
        according to the commandment of the everlasting God,
        made known to all nations for the obedience of faith:

BEGIN WITH BEING A CHRISTIAN, DISCIPLE OR STUDENT OF THE WORD. You cannot SELL the free water of the Word.  If you are running a dues-paying institution God will make certain that you do not speak HIS Words.  The local congregation has only TEACHERS of THAT WHICH IS WRITTEN FOR OUR LEARNING on our staff.  An honest preacher will never fabricate "sermons or songs" to "make the voice of the victim dumb before the slaughter.

1Cor. 9:16 For though I preach THE GOSPEL, I have nothing to glory of:
        for necessity is laid upon me; yea, woe is unto me, if I preach not the gospel!
1Cor. 9:18 What is my reward then? Verily that, when I preach the gospel,
        I may make the gospel of Christ without charge,
        that I abuse not my power in the gospel.

Third, we will have to equip and encourage people.
        Once we start into these conversations we will figure out how to do them well and
        we can then teach others how to do it as well.
        This is where things move from addition to multiplication.

What we know from New Wineskins Matt Dabbs is desperate to denounce the Bible which is CLEAR about the REGULATIVE PRINCIPLE.  The members will be given a very narrow list of Scripture to use in deceive people in attempt to destroy the Historic Church of Christ

http://www.pineycom.com/Anderson-Shepherds.html

Lynn Anderson: Obviously in some cases this deeper type of accountability is only appropriate within all male or all female groups.

Accountability groups only work when there is trust and openness. This may take a while to develop.

Give it time and start slow until you feel that your relationship can progress into these more intimate areas.

Here's the list from Steve Farrar's "Point Man" (Promise Keepers)

1. Have you been with a woman this week in such a way that was inappropriate or could have looked to others that you were using poor judgment?

2. Have you been completely above reproach in all your financial dealings this week?
3. Have you
exposed yourself to any explicit material this week?
4. Have you spent daily time in prayer and in the Scriptures this week?
5. Have you
fulfilled the mandate of your calling this week?
6. Have you taken time off to be with your family this week?
7. Have you just lied to me?

Once we equip people and others start doing this we have a change in our church culture where discipleship is just what we do. It is who we are. It is the primary way we see ourselves – followers of Jesus. Now we move from multiplication to exponents and growth really starts happening both internally and evangelistically.

So this is a call for us to get in tune with what God is doing. The more I have talked about this the more churches have reached out to me saying they are convinced this is what we must be doing. But we are all figuring out where to start.

ERASMUS WARNED YOU ABOUT THE CATHOLIC OR ANDERSONIAN OR LUCADOIAN CONFESSIONAL. DON'T DO IT. Many of the SHEPHERDING or DISCIPLING systems keep good books and however much your TRUST another, I can promise you that your secrets are NOT safe by taking them to a CATHOLIC - LIKE CONFESSOR.

And yet these kind of people, though they are as it were of another commonwealth, no man dares despise, especially those BEGGING friars, because they are privy to all men's secrets by means of confessions, as they call them. Which yet were no less than treason to discover, unless, being got drunk, they have a mind to be pleasant, and then all comes out, that is to say by hints and conjectures but suppressing the names.

Once you fall for letting another human, especially one in self- appointed authority, you HAVE LOST the liberty for which Jesus Christ died. He will have his hands holding your tender parts and you will be under a cloud and DARE NOT ANGER or refuse to follow your MENTOR because Erasmus knew:

But if anyone should anger these wasps, they'll sufficiently revenge themselves in their public sermons and so point out their enemy by circumlocutions  that there's no one but understands whom 'tis they mean, unless he understand nothing at all;

nor will they give over their barking till you throw the dogs a bone. And now tell me, what juggler or mountebank you had rather behold than hear them rhetorically play the fool in their preachments, and yet most sweetly imitating what rhetoricians have written touching the art of good speaking?

(Click to See Alexander Hislop on the Babylonian Confessional)

And Lucian of Samosata on Alexander the Oracle Monger.

We can and must help each other out – not as experts but as fellow disciples trying to find our way. We cannot move into the expert/hierarchical culture that has doomed these movements from the past. As Jesus said, there is only one teacher. He is not any of us. We are just helping each other out under submission to Christ’s authority and teaching.

I want church leaders to engage this conversation. I want ministers and elders to start praying about this and dreaming about this and please call me – 334-750-9919 or email me – matthewdabbs@hotmail.com and let’s talk about how to do this together.

I am convinced that something dramatic is already happening in our fellowship (Churches of Christ) that has been long overdue. We have a generation ready to take this on and we will need to equip and encourage each other as we all get with other people and disciple each other. The leadership must lead by example on this (myself included) and not just tell others how to do it if/when we aren’t doing it ourselves.

Rev. 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan,
        which deceiveth the whole world:
        he was cast out into the earth, 
        [Apollon leader of the locusts or Muses. They are adulteresses willing to self-exhibit and sell and they become the SHEPHERDESSES]
        and his angels were cast out with him.
Rev. 12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven,
        Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God,
        and the power of his Christ:
        for the accuser of our brethren is cast down,
        which accused them before our God day and night.
Rev. 12:11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb,
        and by the WORD of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
Rev. 12:12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them.
        Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea!
         for the devil is come down unto you,
        having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time. [KAIROS]

Rev. 12:13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth,
        he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.
Rev. 12:14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle,
        that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place,
        where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.
Rev. 12:15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman,
        that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.
Rev. 12:16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth,
        and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.
Rev. 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman,
        and went to make war with the remnant of her seed,
        which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

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