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Max Lucado: The absolute MARK of the BEAST
John 17:14 I have given them thy WORD;
and the world hath hated them,
because they are not OF the world,
even as I am not of the world.
John 17:22 And the glory which thou gavest me
I have given them;
that they may be ONE, even as we are one:
2Timothy 3:12 Yea, and all that will live godly
in Christ Jesus SHALL suffer persecution.
Jer 23:17 They say still unto them that DESPISE me,
The Lord hath said, Ye shall have peace;
and they say unto every one that walketh
after the imagination of his own heart,
No evil shall come upon you.
Christ the Spirit spoke through the Prophets. If you command what He has not commanded you have blasphemed the Holy Spirit of Christ Your own imagination is evil
The WORD of God or the DABAR was written by the TRUE prophets by the Spirit OF CHRIST. In these last days He speaks ONLY through His So who is the only mediatory between man and God. Max is professioned to replace Jesus who is the Holy Spirit revealed to us through His WORDS which are the LOGOS. The LOGOS is called the Regulative Principle and is the opposite of rhetoric, personal opinions or experiences, poetry, singing, playing instruments or acting: Jesus LADED these on the Scribes and Pharisees He called hypocrites. In the Ezekiel 33 version Hypocrites are self-speakers, singers and talented instrument players. ANY audience is called HYPOCRITES because God said that they have no intention of obeying the Word of God.
GOD HIDES FROM THE WISE OR SOPHISTS!
Peter declared that the verified Prophets by Jesus Christ who defined A Church OF Christ both inclusively and exclusively, denied that any of the Prophets and Apostles upon which A Church of Christ is built or educated cannot be privately interpreted or FURTHER EXPOUNDING. Peter said that this would MARK a false teacher and would REPUDIATE God's Spirit breathed into ONLY His Son as speaker of the LOGOS or Regulative Principle. Elders are commanded to teach that which HAS BEEN taught.Luke 20:46 Beware of the scribes, which desire to walk in long robes,Luke 20:47 Which devour widows’ houses,
and love greetings in the markets,
and the highest seats in the synagogues, and the chief rooms at feasts;
gramma^t-eus , eōs, ho,
2. metaph., recorder, of memory, Pl.Phlb.39a.3. scholar, “g. saphēs”
sa^phēs A.clear, plain, distinct, of things heard, perceived, or known; “muthos” A.Pr.641
2. of persons, seers, oracles, prophets, sure, unerring, clear or manifest to the mind,
“sophon toi to s., ou to mē s.” E.Or.397.
sophos I.properly, skilled in any handicraft or art, cunning in his craft poets and musicians, of a soothsayer,
and for a shew make long prayers [Hymns]:
Theophilus to Autolycus Doctrine of the trinity.
Chapter X.-The World Created by God Through the Word.
And first, they taught us with one consent that God made all things out of nothing; for nothing was coeval with God: but He being His own place, and wanting nothing,
and existing before the ages, willed to make man by whom He might be known;
for him, therefore, He prepared the world.
For he that is created is also needy; but he that is uncreated stands in need of nothing.God, then, having His own Word internal within His own bowels,
begat Him, emitting Him
along with His own wisdom before all things.He had this Word as a helper in the things that were created by Him, and by Him He made all things.
He [Word] is called "governing principle", because He rules, and is Lord of all things fashioned by Him. He [Word] , then, being Spirit of God, and GOVERNING PRINCIPLE and wisdom, and power of the highest,
came down upon the prophets, and through them spoke of the creation of the world and of all other things. (This was the Spirit of Christ, 1 Peter 1:11; Revelation 19:10)For the prophets were not when the world came into existence,
but the wisdom [Spirit in this instance is Sophia] of God which was in Him, and
His holy Word which was always present with Him.
ANCIENT AND MODERN HISTORY MARKS FOR AVOIDANCE ANYONE SELLING GODLY KNOWLEDGE BUT SPEAKING OUT OF HIS OWN IMAGINATION.
PAUL MARKED THEM AS ADULTERERSX.Mem.1.6.13 Xen. Mem. 1.6.13
To this Socrates replied: “Antiphon, it is common opinion among us
in regard to beauty and wisdom
that there is an honourable
and a shameful way of bestowing them.
For to offer one's beauty for money to all comers is called prostitution;
But we think it virtuous to become friendly with
a lover who is known to be a man of honour.
So is it with wisdom. Those who offer it to all comers for money
are known as sophists, prostitutors of wisdom,But we think that he who makes a friend of one whom he knows to be gifted
by nature, and teaches him all the good he can,
fulfils the duty of a citizen and a gentleman.
Sophis-tēs , ou, o(, A. master of one's craft, adept, expert, of diviners, Hdt.2.49; of poets, “meletan sophistais prosbalon” Pi.I.5(4).28, cf. Cratin.2; of musicians, “sophistēs . . parapaiōn khelun” A.Fr.314, cf. Eup.447, Pl.Com. 140; sophistē Thrēki (sc. Thamyris) E.Rh.924, cf. Ath.14.632c: with modal words added, “hoi s. tōn hierōn melōn” [melody in the holy place--a death sentence for any Levite]
HO, every one that thirsteth,
come ye to the waters,
and he that hath no money;
come ye, buy, and eat; yea,
come, buy wine and milk WITHOUT MONEY
and WITHOUT PRICE. Isa 55:12 Cor. 2:17 For we are not as many,
............ which corrupt the word of God:
............ but as of sincerity, but as of God,
............ in the sight of God speak we in Christ.
kapēl-euō, A. to be a retail-dealer, drive a petty trade Hdt. 3.89 ta mathēmata sell learning by retail, hawk it about, Pl. Prt.313d , 2 Cor. 2:17, of prostitutes,
Plat. Prot. 313d For among the provisions, you know, in which these men deal, not only are they themselves ignorant what is good or bad for the body, since in selling they commend them all, but the people who buy from them are so too, unless one happens to be a trainer or a doctor. And in the same way, those who take THEIR doctrines the round of our cities, hawking them about to any odd purchaser who desires them, commend everything that they sell, and there may well be some of these too, my good sir, who are ignorant which of their wares is
[313e] good or bad for the soul; and in just the same case are the people who buy from them, unless one happens to have a doctor's knowledge here also, but of the soul. So then, if you are well informed as to what is good or bad among these wares, it will be safe for you to buy doctrines from Protagoras or from anyone else you please: but if not, take care, my dear fellow, that you do not risk your greatest treasure on a toss of the dice.
1Timothy 6:6 But godliness with contentment is great gain.Jesus doesn't pray for the WORLD: that is the Kosmos or adorning world of ancient paganism. Jesus said that God HIDES Himself from the wise: the wise are the sophists meaning speakers, singers and instrument players who use deception to steal your church and soul
1Timothy 6:7 For we brought nothing into this world,
and it is certain we can carry nothing out.
1Timothy 6:8 And having food and raiment let us be therewith content.
1Timothy 6:9 But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare,
and into many foolish and hurtful lusts,
which drown men in destruction and perdition.
1Timothy 6:13 I give thee charge in the sight of God,
who quickeneth all things, and before Christ Jesus,
who before Pontius Pilate witnessed a good confession;
1Timothy 6:14 That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukeable,
until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:
1Timothy 6:15 Which in his times he shall shew,
who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;
Max Lucado. Index of Articles.The Worship Team under the PATTERN of the Levites is prophetic: The Levites volunteered to execute 3,000 of the brethren who had engaged in musical idolatry at Mount Sinai
Max Lucado Creed
Baptism is our pledge only
The Thief on the Cross
Saved by Trust Only
Romans 6 and baptism
Proof Texts from a Lexicon on music used to deceive his elders-who cannot retreat.
The COMMAND in 2 Chronicles 29 is that the Levites stand in military ranks.
They made noise to warn any godly person that they would be EXECUTED if they came near.
The Levite Pattern is SOOTHSAYERS with INSTRUMENTAL backup. John 18 calls Them SORCERERS with instrumental backup.
Violent men take the Kingdom by Violence laded burdens are songs
The Kingdom of God does not come by Religious Observations.
Salvation by Grace Through Faith and not by our WORKS: Rhetoric, song writing, music performance
THE TIME IS NOW
2Timothy 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth,
and shall be turned unto fables.
FABLES TO FOOL: Fābŭla , ae, f. fari,
1. Most freq., a dramatic poem, drama, play (syn.: “ludus, cantus, actio, etc.): in full, fabula scaenica,” Amm. 28, 1, 4; “or, theatralis,” id. 14, 6, 20: “fabula ad actum scenarum composita,”fabulam, quae versatur in tragoediis atque carminibus non a veritate modo
FABLES TO FOOL: Cantus , ūs, m. id., I. the production of melodious sound, a musical utterance or expression, either with voice or instrument; hence, song, singing, playing,
1. With the voice, a singing, song; in full, cantus vocum, Cic. Rosc. Am. 46, 134: cantibus
2. With instruments, a playing, music: “citharae,” “horribili stridebat tibia cantu,” Cat. 64, 264: “querulae tibiae, “lyrae,” Plin. 34, 8, 19, § 72: “tibicine
FABLES TO FOOL: Scaenĭcus (scen- ), skēnikos, I. of or belonging to the stage, scenic, dramatic, theatrical
stage-plays, theatrical representations, “fabula,” a drama, “organa,” Suet. Ner. 44: “coronae,” id. ib. 53: “habitus,” id. ib. 38: “gestus,” Cic. de Or. 3, 59, 220: “modulatio,” Quint. 11, 3, 57:
1. scaē-nĭcus , i, m., a player, actor, Cic. Off. 1, 31, 114: ---“orator plurimum aberit a scaenico 2. scaenĭcaa female player, an actress,, ae, f.,
THE MOST POWERFUL WEAPON TO FOOL:Orgănum , i, n., = organon, Of musical instruments, a pipe, Quint. 11, 3, 20; 9, 4, 10; Juv. 6, 3, 80; Vulg. Gen. 4, 21; id. 2 Par. 34, 12 et saep. an organ, water-organ: “organa hydraulica,” Suet. Ner. 41: aquatica, Mythogr. Lat. 3, 12.—Of a church-organ, Cass. Expos. in Psa. 150; Aug. Enarr. in Psa. 150, n. 7.— B. Transf.: organum oris, the tongue of a man, Prud. steph
Jubal "Handled" musical instruments "without authority."
2Timothy 4:5 But watch (sober: drink no wine) thou in all things,
endure afflictions,
do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.
3.11.11 Logos versus Mythos: Word versus Music Logos (modern) is rational of the word and STRAIGHT: Mythos and Sophia (postmodern) are irrational and Gender-Confused. Mythos Nomoi (traditional law)
(a) Eros is approved, and its excesses condoned, when directed towards superior youths approaching manhood.
(b) It appears to be condemned, in so far as parents forbid their boys to hold converse with “erastae.” The explanation of this ambiguous attitude must be sought in the principle laid down above, that the moral quality of an act depends upon the conditions of its performance.
GRACE is Kharizo 2. gratify or indulge a humour or passion, 3. in erotic sense, grant favours to a man,
give up as a favour by dropping a law aimed at him,Those who willingly infiltrate and impose musical instruments into a peaceable church justify the deliberate sowing of discord based on false teachings of all of the "instrument" passages also preach that GRACE will cover them.
Grace Centered Magazine: 3.06.11. This forum has a Church of Christ thread dedicated to abusing those who do not deliberately reject the clear teaching of the Word and recorded history. A common lie is that the Church Fathers had nothing bad to say about the use of instruments based on Scripture. We have refuted that to prove that NO ONE used instruments in the churches but refute the Jews who did because they had been abandoned to Canaanite Baalism or the worship of the starry host.
See Jay Guin Review for the list of New Wineskins papers.# Max Lucado and Shepherding - Discipling at Oak Hills Church of Christ.
# Lynn Anderson's Promise Keepers Shepherding plan. Don't tell 'em about your sex life: they keep records for USE. Remember Cross Roads / Boston?
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Max Lucado Repudiates Faith, Repentance, Confession, Baptism
Oak Hills Church of Christ Max Lucado Beliefs Oak Hills church of Christ, San Antonio, Texas. Max Lucado assembles with those who speak in tongues. Oak Hills Church of Christ has dropped CHRIST from their name and declared themselves a DENOMINATION with Oak Hills being the MOTHER CHURCH. Bare bones honest would NEVER PERMIT a conservative preacher to infiltrate and "steal the church houses of widows." The more urban the easier it is to fool the fools. Therefore, they have been duped by agents of the NACC such as David Faust see the first in a series of reviews. Mark Henderson of Quail Springs was also an early conspirator and to keep up he has coerced the elders with lots of discord to go instrumental. We have reviewed his rational and found it lacking in basic honesty.
1.04.11
Christ the Spirit spoke through the Prophets
Jesus of Nazareth made these prophecies more perfect
Jesus said "my WORDS are Spirit and Life."
To speak out of your own imagination while pretending to speak for Christ is defined as blasphemy.
If someone gets a vision to add instruments
When Christ repudiates them in the prophets and never commanded them
Is that not blasphemy:
Max Lucado was instrumental in a well-financed and power-packed with celebrity preachers determined to restructure the Church of Christ by diverting them into the Christian Church and used by agents of the NACC who motived and fed them all of the false teachings about music and worship. Interesting, since none of God's faithful ever "sang congregationally with instrumental accompaniment." They are diverting people into the Babylonianism or Canaanite Baalism to which God abonded Israel BECAUSE of musical idolatry at Mount Sinai. Even then no instruments were used for sacrifices--but outlawed for the synagogue or church in the wilderness--until the elders fired God and demanded a king like the nations (Goyim or Gentile pagans) and God knew that they wanted to worship like the pagans. He solemnly warned them and then finally loosed them selecting the kings to carry out the captivity and death sentence.
This began as a small circle of friends seemingly pledged "not to eat" until they had destroyed peaceable churches of Christ who--under that name--never used instruments in their history. Delusions such as the Tulsa Workshop, the 'unity meetings" and the Jubilee were certain to turn all "rotten and conservative" churches of Christ into 'new style' worship which was from old style Babylon.
So far, I think it fair to say that the only DIVERTED churches into some instrumental use are the ONES led by the original agents of sowing discord. Those churches have suffered great discord, family division and some financial losses. Therefore, I believe that Jesus Christ has flatly repudiated them and held them in RESERVE for burning times. That is the meaning of the locusts in Revelation who were Apollo or Apollyon's muses whom John calls SORCERERS.
If we seem harsh then vote with those who twist all known Scripture with the deliberate plan massive discord: to RULE or RUIN.
# Click for the Oak Hills Church of Christ elders on Instrumental Music
I am adding some narrative as background to the END-TIME destruction of Christ the Word of the "father's" mouth now replaced with Just- Jesus. Any doctrinal views you once held from the OUTDATED Bible now must be replaced by latter day Prophets (profits), Channelers and facilitators. Neither faith, repentance, confession nor baptism is now related to salvaiton: it is just Jesus or recognizing God in creation and calling him "father." The actual reviews of Lucado's false teaching is further down the page. All blue links help tell the NARRATIVE THEOLOGY of Max Lucado and his disciples.
God in Jesus Christ came to rescue the tiny remnant of people able to hear Him by faith revealed in the only document which defines the Christian System. Those who are able to live in a spirit dimension prove it by being baptized into Christ and worshiping God in the PLACE of the human spirit swept clean by God.
The Jews worked 5 days a week and the FIRST and SEVENTH were often days of REST. Within the travel limits they held HOLY CONVOCATIONS. This includes the idea of the synagogue which "had no praise service" and rehearsing of READING the Word of God which was available. Ministers, propets or priests were excluded because they were part of the LAW OF MOSES which had been added because of musical idolatry.
Jesus Christ issued a direct command to SEAL those who were loyal to Him. The Just-Jesus meaning Anti-Christ heresy lays claim to being Jesus. The FORM of the PATTERN extablished by Jesus was identified by Mark as the MOST IMPORTANT or beginning point which meanst BAPTISM by John and the Disciples of Jesus.
Jesus died that we might have the TRUE REST the Jews never had. He endorsed the twos or threes which would gather with him. He said "come learn of me."
# BAPTISM INCLUDES THE FREE, TRUE GOSPEL MADE AVAILABLE TO ALL NATIONS--FOR A WITNESS Scripture says that those rejecting baptism are treacherous: they call Jesus Christ a liar.
Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father: Ga.1:4
Simeon hath declared how God at the first did visit the Gentiles, to TAKE OUT of them a PEOPLE for his NAME. Acts 15:14
Rubel Shelly led by Max Lucado teaches that we should become AS MUCH LIKE the Word as possible in order to win the world. But the WORLD is the domain of Satan.
Jesus told all of the apostles to baptize IN ORDER TO the remission of sins. Paul associates the faith of Abraham with baptism.
And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. Mark 16:15
He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. Mark 16:16The word BELIEVETH includes OBEDIENCE: Baptism was the natural response for those whom Jesus was taking out of this evil world where the Lucifer Principle is Commerce or TRAFFICK.
"BELIEVETH NOT" means that they disobeyed by rejecting baptism.
Apisteo (g569) means to be unbelieving, meaning to disobey
Apistos (g571) disbelieving, i.e. without Christian faith, a heathen, untrustworthy (person), faithless, infidel.Those who REJECTED the Baptism of John and the disciples of Jesus are identified as:
Atheteo (g114) means to DISESTEEM, neutralize or VIOLATE, cast off, DESPISE, disannul, frustrate, bring to nought, reject. It means a TREACHEROUS PERSON. The same as Kategoros an accuser, a BETRAYER.
The theme of the group from whom Jesus " might deliver us from this present evil world," identifies themselves following
# Rubel Shelly's advice to "be as much LIKE the world as possible to win the WORLD." Since the WORLD is ruled by Satan, the Kosmokraetor, YOU should try to escape if it is not too late.
But, Jesus sent TRUE EVANGELISTS to rescue people out of the world: not build a venue for Rock and Roll.
THERE IS NO EXCEPTION "MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS FOR RELIGION WERE INVENTED BY DEMI-GODS" TO SEDUCE PEOPLE AWAY FROM GOD'S WORD. Why would people use to "stand in the holy place" that which has a history of religious prostitutes and sodomites?
See Farmer's Branch deliberate use of NAGAN as authority for their Keeping the Sabbath unholy with instrumental music. Nagan is almost identical to Chalal which translates to "steal your inheritance, play the flute, pollute and prostitute." It is about the same as HALAL or praise which is the source of the word LUCIFER.
I am not getting personal but history knows no excepton to the rule that singers and musicians were agents of Lucifer, the harp-playing prostitute as the king of Tyre, Babylon and the end time Babylon harlot church of Revelation 18. The BEAST is a PAN CHARACTER whose HORNS were the PAN PIPES. Pan was the bisexual Alpha Male or Top Billy Goat of the mountain. While Satan or Zoe or Lucifer is POINTING you to some war of the words, they are assualting you as LUCIFER or ZOE who was the harp-playing prostitute even in the garden of Eden. The message of Pan includes his HORNS which are musical instruments:
Keras or HORN means means POWER but music has always been Satan's way of gaining power by ascending up above the Word of God:
2. of musical instruments, a horn for blowing, Xen.: a flute, Luc.
3. a drinking-horn, Xen.keras (horns of the perverted Pan musicians) who LOOK TO THE HILLS
1. BOW, toxon enôma
2. of MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS, horn for BLOWING, sęmęnai tôi kerati also, the Phrygian FLUTE, because it was tipped with horn
6. mountainpeak, extremities of the earthKero-batęs [a^], ou, ho, ( [keras]) HORN-FOOTED, hoofed, kerobatas PAN Ar.Ra.230 (lyr.): acc. to some Gramm., he that GOES with HORNS, i.e. the HORNED GOD; acc. to Sch., he that WALKS the MOUNTAIN-PEAKS (cf. keras v.6).
Those touched by Apollo and the Muses compose and sing praise of the gods. Sons of Apollo by a Muse are Linos and Orpheus.
Other divinities also bear a relationship to music.# Hermes invented the lyre and gave it to Apollo, retaining the syrinx for himself and his son Pan as shepherd gods.
Dionysos' connection with music is less specific than Apollo's, but still he is ranked as inventor of the dithyramb. Music is more important among his followers, the satyrs and maenads; it was the latter who tore to pieces the unfortunate Apollonian singer Orpheus.
Among the Greeks the dance of gods, Muses, nereids, and nymphs is often mentioned and depicted along with music. Particular importance is attributed to the singing or instrument-playing sirens as the "Muses of the other world."
"Their home is thought of as located in Hades, as well as in space. In their role as singing guides of souls they are associated with death. Originally in the form of animals (birds), they came to assume human shape. A [Page 269, Volume 3] related notion is documented in Book XII of the Odyssey: the sirens as death-bringing singing monsters. Their function as musical soul-guides is transferred to the angels in Christianity.
Their function is connected to the LOCUSTS.
That is why people are urged to
# LOOK TO THE HILLS. Cute, but deadly. The Psalmists didn't issue a direct command for PATTERNISM. Rather, he ASKED, "Shall we look to the hills? NO." The Jews put their trust in the MOUNTAIN GODS and that was the source of the naked dance of David after he could not return to Gibeon as the place of God's presence. He "rose up to PLAY" identical to the terminal sin at Mount Sinai. Samson "ground in the king's house": he DID NOT grind wheat! He played or rose up to play or made himself VILE as David boasted of his excursions with the camp follower slaves. ZOE as in the ZOE group is used to facilitate changing the church from A School of the Bible to a "theater for holy entertainment." Zoe was known as the BEAST and the FEMALE INSTRUCTING PRINCIPLE. She was the mother and sister of Jehovah whom she forced to form Musical Worship Teams before he could ASCEND up to the seventh heaven but still below the TRUE god.
Baal (Hadad) is regularly denominated "the son of Dagan." He is "Rider of the Clouds," "Almighty," and "Lord of the Earth." He is the god of the thunderstorm (blowing the winds of change), the most vigorous and aggressive of the gods. Baal resides on Mount Zaphon, north of Ugarit. Those who LOOKED TO THE HILLS were Baal worshipers. The MARZEAH or religious festival condemned by Amos:
# Amos defined by the BAAL CYCLE. This mountain was clearly to the Canaanites what Olympus was to the Greeks; it was not only the dwelling place of Baal but the site of the assembly of the gods.
Baal or Adon (Adonai) was a phallic god. "Who shall ascend unto the hill (the high place) of the Lord; who shall stand in the place of his Kadushu (q.v.)?" (Psalms xxiv. 3.) [meaning religious prostitutes and sodomites]
The "circle-dance" performed by King David round the ark, was the dance prescribed by the Amazons in the Mysteries,
the dance of the daughters of Shiloh (Judges xxi., et seq.)
and the same as the leaping of the prophets of Baal (I. Kings xviii).Here is the picture of PAN whos "horns" in Revelation were musical instruments. If you are offended by me outing the history of "religious music" you should be offended by the FEMINIST dogma which Caroll D. Oburn seems to see as a slow conversion by "little acts of treason." It all fits the end-time prophecy.
Pan and the homosexual gods and SEEKERS roamed the mountains looking for an EXCITING worship experience. Did you know that the horns are "musical instruments " related to the pan pipe.? He was the little perverted half goat with literal horns pipe and phallic power searching for male companionship. "mountains or kingdoms looking hills which means using theatrical performance (the homosexual stigmata mark ) lead people worship mountain gods from whom their help comes. It is important that all charismaic of musical performance is related to paganism where "worship" was a sexual experience. Music was and is one of the most powerful inducers of an altered state in which one tends to fall in love with the little ugly fella who has musical talent.
Max Lucado claims: For that reason, on the night before His death He introduced the disciples to the song maker of the Trinity, the Holy Spirit."
It was Apollo or Abbadon or Abaddyon or Satan who was the LEADER of the MUSES representing the fine and performance arts trying to replace God.
Peter speaking of the prophets,
Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow. 1 Peter 1:11
And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy. Rev 19:10
Paul in First Corinthians Chapter Two notes that the Holy Spirit is to God what our spirit is to use. Paul then defined the Holy Spirit as the MIND OF CHRIST. Mind and Spirit are most often the same thing. Therefore, the Holy Spirit these people HEAR AUDIBLY is not a separate person.
The trinity IS neither TRUE nor STATED to include THREE BEINGS. With the exception of the 1940's of H. Leo Boles and the Gospel Advocate, the Max Lucado and Rubel Shelly TRITHEISM has no Biblical or historical foundations. The trinity was derived out of philosophy before it was used in Christianity. Even so, only heritics (re Paul Tillich) called God a person meaning a "people." Those who used the word TRINITY never separated the Godhead into three separate Beings. Modern, latter day prophets need to dispose of the SON and His Word in order to claim that the Holy Spirit "person" guides them into all truth.
Nor are these Thracian orgies, from which the word Worship (threskia) is said to be derived; nor rites and mysteries of Orpheus, whom the Greeks admired so much for his wisdom that they devised for him a lyre which draws all things by its music.
Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind, Col.2:18
If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this mans religion is vain. Ja.1:26
Threskos (g2357) thrace'-kos; prob. from the base of 2360; ceremonious in worship (as demonstrative), i.e. pious: - religious.
Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world. Ja.1:27
The Jerusalem clergy looking for Dionysus as their Messiah, tried to pervert Jesus into the song and choral dance of Dionysus. They also expected that John the Baptist would be wearing SOFT clothing of the king's catamite. Dionysus was the god of the NEW WINESKIN:
# Chorous men: for the omission of the article cf. ix. 88. 1; i. 194. 4; ii. 402, &c. The worship of Dionysus was popular with the common people and favoured by the tyrants. Pisistratus founded the city Dionysia at Athens, or at least the dramatic performances. Periander of Corinth was the patron of Arion, the great maker of choric song (i. 23 n.) Text
Choruses would be appropriate to Adrastus, whether as originally a Chthonian deity (Welcker) or as a guardian hero. For the connexion of tragic choruses with the worship of the dead cf. Ridgeway, Origin of Tragedy, pp. 26-39; and for the change of 'heroes' Thuc. v. 11.
(Ariôn). A Greek poet and musician, of Methymna in Lesbos, who flourished about B.C. 625. In the course of a roving life he spent a considerable time at the court of Periander, tyrant of Corinth. Here he first gave the dithyramb (q.v.) an artistic form, and was therefore regarded as the inventor of that style in general chorosI. a round dance, used at banquets and festive occasions, Hom., Hes.:--at Athens, the choros kuklios performed round the altar of Dionysus, Hdt., Eur., etc.
# Plato Protagoras [326b] the song-makers, while the master accompanies them on the harp; and they insist on familiarizing the boys' souls with the rhythms and scales, that they may gain in gentleness, and by advancing in rhythmic and harmonic grace may be efficient in speech and action; for the whole of man's life requires the graces of rhythm and harmony. Again, over and above all this, people send their sons to a trainer, that having improved their bodies they may perform the orders of their minds,
[326c] which are now in fit condition, and that they may not be forced by bodily faults to play the coward in wars and other duties. [Or: And when they are released from their schooling the city next compels them to learn the laws and to live according to them as after a pattern. Now, they are ready to make war on their neighbors]
This is what people do, who are most able; and the most able are the wealthiest. Their sons begin school at the earliest age, and are freed from it at the latest. And when they are released from their schooling the city next compels them to learn the laws and to live according to them as after a pattern,
[326d] that their conduct may not be swayed by their own light fancies, but just as writing-masters first draw letters in faint outline with the pen for their less advanced pupils, and then give them the copy-book and make them write according to the guidance of their lines, so the city sketches out for them the laws devised by good lawgivers of yore, and constrains them to govern and be governed according to these. She punishes anyone who steps outside these borders, and this punishment among you and in many other cities
How they prepare the wealthy young men to make war on their neighbors.
[326b] kitharismata enteinontes
Kithar-ismaA.that which is played on the cithara, a piece of music for it, Pl.Prt.326b, Max.Tyr.7.6, Ach.Tat.2.1, D.C.63.26; k. ek Bakchôn Euripidou
BakchęA. Bacchante, A.Eu.25, S.Ant.1122 (lyr.), Ar.Nu.605, Pl. Ion534a, etc.: generally, Bakchę Haidou frantic handmaid of Hades, E.Hec.1077; b. nekuônId. Ph.1489 (lyr.).
Pl. Ion534a, Plato, Ion [534a] just as the Corybantian1 worshippers do not dance when in their senses, so the lyric poets do not indite those fine songs in their senses, but when they have started on the melody and rhythm they begin to be frantic, and it is under possession--as the bacchants are possessed, and not in their senses, when they draw honey and milk from the rivers--that the soul of the lyric poets does the same thing, by their own report. For the poets tell us, I believe, that the songs they bring us are the sweets they cull from honey-dropping fountsEnteinontes: used of putting prose into metrical form, or adapting verses to musical rhythm and melody. Cf. Phaedo 60 d enteinas tous tou Aisôpou logous kai to eis ton Apollô prooimion.
1 The Corybantes were priests of Cybele or Rhea, mother of Zeus and other Olympian gods, and she was worshipped with wild music and frenzied dancing which, like the bacchic revels or orgies of women in honor of Dionysus, carried away the participants despite and beyond themselves. Cf. Eurip. Bacchae.
Enteinô, A.stretch or strain tight, esp. of any operation performed with straps or cords,
2.stretch a bow tight, bend it for shooting, enteinamenoi tęn harmonian pitching the tune high
II. Metap;hor, strain, exert, phônęn enteinamenosAeschin. 2.157
2. Intensify, carry on vigorously, excite
Poliorkia siege of a city, metaphor: besieging, pestering
IV.stretch out at or against, plęgęn e. tinilay a blow on him, X.An.2.4.11,
Plege A blow, stroke, stroke of lightening, strokes of axe or sword, beating the breasts,
impression of the ears and eyes.
Rev. 18:1 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven,PLATO, TIMAEUS [67b] and the causes whereby its affections are produced. In general, then, let us lay it down that sound is a stroke transmitted through the ears, by the action of the air upon the brain and the blood, and reaching to the soul; and that the motion caused thereby, which begins in the head and ends about the seat of the liver, is “hearing”; and that every rapid motion produces a “shrill” sound, and every slower motion a more “deep” sound; and that uniform motion produces an “even” and smooth sound and the opposite kind of motion a “harsh” sound;
having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.
Rev. 18:2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen,
is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.[Chaldean, Astrology] Daniel 2:[27] Daniel answered before the king, and said, The secret which the king has demanded can neither wise men, enchanters, magicians, nor soothsayers, show to the king
Rev. 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
Daimonion the favors of fortune Pl.Epin.992dEnteinô,
[202e] “‘Well what?’“‘As I previously suggested, between a mortal and an immortal.’
“‘Interpreting and transporting human things to the gods and divine things to men; entreaties and sacrifices from below, and ordinances and requitals from above: being midway between, it makes each to supplement the other, so that the whole is combined in one. Through it are conveyed all divination [mantikos Apollon] and priestcraft concerning sacrifice and ritual
“‘And what is that, Diotima?’
“‘A great spirit, Socrates: for the whole of the spiritual1 is between divine and mortal.’
“‘Possessing what power?’ I asked.
[1.9.7] Salmoneus at first dwelt in Thessaly, but afterwards he came to Elis and there founded a city. And being arrogant and wishful to put himself on an equality with Zeus, he was punished for his impiety; for he said that he was himself Zeus, and
- he took away the sacrifices of the god and
- ordered them to be offered to himself;
- and by dragging dried hides, with bronze kettles, at his chariot,
- he said that he thundered,
- and by flinging lighted torches at the sky
- he said that he lightened.
Astraptô (cf. straptō), of persons, to be brilliant, conspicious, consume with lightening. hurl epithets of Zeus, II.2. of persons, to be brilliant, conspicuous, “en tini” Opp.C.1.361,2.23.katachalk-os A.overlaid with bronze or copper drakôn A.dragon, serpent, Il.11.39, al.; interchangeable with ophis,
Euripides, Iphigenia in Tauris Chorus
Lovely is the son of Leto,
[1235] whom she, the Delian, once bore in the fruitful valleys, golden-haired, skilled at the lyre; and also the one who glories in her well-aimed arrows.[1240] For the mother, leaving the famous birth-place, brought him from the ridges of the sea to the heights of Parnassus, with its gushing waters, which celebrate the revels for Dionysus. Here the dark-faced serpent[1245] with brightly colored back, his scales of bronze in the leaf-shaded laurel, huge monster of the earth, guarded Earth's prophetic shrine. You killed him, o Phoebus, while still a baby,[1250] still leaping in the arms of your dear mother, and you entered the holy shrine, and sit on the golden tripod, on your truthful throne[1255] distributing prophecies from the gods to mortals, up from the sanctuary, neighbor of Castalia's streams, as you dwell in the middle of the earth.Chalkeos Chalkes hupai salpingos
Euripides, Electra Chorus
The story remains in old legends
[700] that Pan, the keeper of wild beasts, breathing sweet-voiced music on his well-joined pipes, once brought from its tender mother on Argive hills[705] a lamb with beautiful golden fleece. A herald stood on the stone platform and cried aloud, “To assembly [aroga], Mycenaeans, go to assembly[710] to see the omens given to our blessed rulers.” . . . and they honored the house of Atreus.
III.2. Consume with lightening, illuminate,ti Musae.276.
Musae (Mousai). In Greek mythology the Muses were originally the nymphs of springs, whose waters gave inspiration, such as Hippocrené, Castalia, etc.; then goddesses of song in genera. They are all female and are considered goddesses dwelling in Olympus, who at the meals of the gods sing sweetly to the lyre of Apollo. They are the nine daughters of Zeus. [Apollo is at times the sun god or Saturn. Saturn's Chaldee (sounding brass, astrology) number is 666. Wikipedia Muse
Eos 1. Like ēōos (sc. astēr), the morning-star, Verg. G. 1, 288; id. A. 3, 588; 11, 4.— “domus Aurorae
1. Like ēōos (sc. astēr), the morning-star, Verg. G. 1, 288; id. A. 3, 588; 11, 4.—
Aurōra , B. Personified, the goddess of the morning, Gr. Ēōs, daughter of Hyperion (hence Hyperionis, Ov. F. 5, 159), wife of Tithonus (hence Tithonia conjunx, Ov. F. 3, 403, and Tithonia, id. ib. 4, 943),ēōs ,II. pr. n., Ēōs the goddess of dawn, Il. 11.1, Hes.Th.372,378, etc. (Cf. Skt. u[snull ]ā´s 'dawn', Lat. aurora, etc.)
E. Thespias , a(dis, adj. f., Thespian: Musae (a muse, one of the nine Muses, as dwelling on Mount Helicon), Ov. M. 5, 310 ; also called, absol., Thespiades, Varr. L. L. 7, § 20 Müll.; Cic. Verr. 2, 4, 2, § 4; Plin. 36, 5, 4, § 39.
hęlios II. as pr. n., Helios, the sun-god, Od.8.271, identified with Apollo,lūcĭfer <>, fe(ra, fe(rum, adj. [lux-fero] , light-bringing: itaque ut apud Graecos Dianam, eamque Luciferam, sic apud nostros Junonem (Juno) Lucinam in pariendo invocant, Cic. N. D. 2, 27, 68 : pars Lunae, Lucr. 5, 726 : equi,the horses of Luna, Ov. H. 11, 46 : manus,i. e. of Lucina, id. ib. 20, 192 .-- Poet., bringing safety, Prud. Psych. 625.-- Hence,
2.Hęliou astęr, of the planet Saturn,
II. Subst.: Lucifer , feri, m.
A. The morning-star, the planet Venus: stella Lucifer interdiu, noctu Hesperus ita circumeunt, Varr. R. R. 3, 5, 17 : stella Veneris, quae Phôsphoros Graece, Latine dicitur Lucifer, cum antegreditur solem, cum subsequitur autem Hesperos, Cic. N. D. 2, 20, 53: si dormire incipis ortu Luciferi, Juv. 8, 12 ; 13, 158; cf. Plin. 2, 8, 6, § 36; Tib. 1, 10 (9), 62; Ov. Tr. 1, 3, 71.--
B. The fabled son of Aurora [Eos] and Cephalus, and father of Ceyx, Hyg. Astr. 2, 42; Ov. M. 11, 271; 346; acc. to others,a son of Jupiter, Serv. Verg. A. 4, 130 .--
C. Poet. transf., day: memento Venturum paucis me tibi Luciferis, Prop. 2, 15 (3, 12), 28: omnis, Ov. F. 1, 46 : tres, id. ib. 3, 877 .
zôę-living, i.e. one's substance, property
zeidôros , on, zea-giving , zeidôros aroura, some authors derived it from zaô,= biodôros , life-giving, Aphroditę Emp.151 ; Ęelios. Lucifer is the Hebrew heylel, from brightness. zeidôros used with pherô (Locr. pharô burden). hęlios, ęelioio to see the light of life, Helios, the sun-god. Hęliou astęr, of the planet Saturn (Number is 666). Heliacal Rising is about the end of September. but also eis phôs ienai to come into the light, i.e. into public,
But Zeus struck him with a thunderbolt, and wiped out the city he had founded with all its inhabitants.
Rev. 18:8 Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.Note: In the traditions concerning Salmoneus we may perhaps trace the reminiscence of a line of kings who personated the Skygod Zeus and attempted to make rain, thunder and lightning by means of imitative magic. See The Magic Art and the Evolution of Kings, i.310, ii.177, 180ff. Sophocles composed a Satyric play on the subject (The Fragments of Sophocles, ed. A. C. Pearson, vol. ii. pp. 177ff. ). 19) Pseudo-Apollodorus Library 1.9.7 (Loeb
b. of the strings of the lyre, tęs neatęs entetamenęs
V.stretch out at or against,plęgęn e. tinilay a blow on him
2. esp. put into verse, set to music, poięmata eis ta kitharismata
2.157Aeschines, 2. [157] “How outrageous that when a man whose business it is to act the parts of a Carion or of a Xanthias1 showed himself so noble and generous, Aeschines, the counsellor of the greatest city, the adviser of the Ten Thousand of Arcadia, did not restrain his insolence, but in drunken heat, when Xenodocus, one of the picked corps of Philip, was entertaining us, seized a captive woman by the hair, and took a strap and flogged her!”
1 Satyrus, the comic actor, would often take slave parts, for which Carion and Xanthias were among the traditional names.
Aeschines, Speeches Against Ctesiphon
But when a man who is made up of words, and those words bitter words and useless--when such a man takes refuge in "simplicity" and "the facts," who could have patience with him? If you treat him as you might a clarinet, and take out his tongue, you have nothing left!
Like Apollo or Abaddon or Apollyon who looses the LOCUSTS or muses as musical performer, Arion had the ability to change himself into an "angel of light" such as a harmless dolphin.
For those who MUST KNOW that not using INSTRUMENTS is not JUST OUR HERITAGE or TRADITION WE ASK: "WHY WOULD PEOPLE SAY SUCH DISHONEST THINGS. IF IN DOUBT,
# SEE OUR GROWING COLLECTION OF MUSICAL HISTORY. Or if you just enjoy the UNAUTHORIZED GIVING to support such nonesense, good luck.
"But," I hear many good people exclaim, "there are many good clergymen in the church who do not believe in baptismal regeneration!" To this my answer is prompt: Why then, do they belong to a church which teaches that doctrine in the plainest terms? I am told that many in the Church of England preach against her own teaching. I know they do, and herein I rejoice in their enlightenment, but I question, gravely question, their morality.
To take oath that I sincerely assent and consent to a doctrine which I do not believe would to my conscience appear little short of perjury, if not absolute, downright perjury; but those who do so must be judged by their Lord.
For me to take money for defending what I do not believe--for me to take the money of a church, and then to preach against what are most evidently its doctrines--I say for me to do this (I shall not judge the peculiar views of other men), for me or for any other simple, honest man to do so, would be an atrocity so great that, if I had perpetrated the deed, I should consider myself out of the pale [boundaries] of truthfulness, honesty, and common morality.
Lynn Anderson, working with STAFF, may seek to USE your "conservative church." First, this will TAINT your church but, second, it will allow Lynn Anderson to INFILTRATE and DIVERT by APPROPRIATING respectability.
Lynn Anderson is another TEAM MEMBER attempting to restore the Crossroads, Boston movement, International Church of Christ and now the
# PROMISE KEEPER'S Shepherding and Lynn Anderson. This scam as as old as dirt and the purpose is to HIRE MORE professional shepherds and retire your elders and deacons to making calls on people while the growing STAFF INFECTION builds a "Tower of Babylon Power" scheme as a MAKE WORKS PROJECTS or Works Project Administration for the surplus DOCTORS OF THE LAW Jesus blamed for "Taking away the key to knowledge." The THEOLOGY is a radical, Baptist form of Gnosticism which repudiates the Bible.
Sure, they will even INFILTRATE "Conservative" churches OVER THE HEADS OF THE ELDERS to CUNNINGLY give respectability to ancient PAGAN RITUALS. They even speak of A SPECTACLE OF WORSHIP much like witchcraft and an ANCIENT MODERN marriage with the Babylonian Harlot church who SEDUCES with CRAFTY speakers, singers and musicians. In Revelation 18 and TYPIFIED by the king/queen of Tyre (the harp-plaing prostitute) and the king/queen of Babylon whose harps and harpists go into SHEOL with him/her.
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Jack Reese: But, of course, in
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# Restoration Roots Can't Hit Scholarly Quotes STRAIGHT. C. Leonard Allen and Richard T. Hughes. Totally perverts views of Luther.# Caroll Osburn: The ACU Agenda: Train Prophetic roles, Channelers and Facilitators the method of subverting the 'hierarchial" views of Jesus and Paul is "Feminist hermeneutics stands over against patriarchal hermeneutics" its goal achieved "by small, often unnoticed acts of SUBVERSION. Numerous such incremental changes, like EROSION, will eventually bring down the FORTRESS " ( WOMEN IN THE CHURCH: Reclaiming the Ideal p. 32).
# The NEW STYLE WORSHIP and Navigating the Winds of Change are in fact quite identical to neo-Paganism or Witchcraft. From the Grace Centered crew.
"Promise Keepers is the gigantic new (1991) "men's movement" among professing evangelical Christians. Its roots are Catholic and charismatic to the core. PK's contradictory stand on homosexuality; its promotion of secular psychology;
its unscriptural feminizing of men; its depiction of Jesus as a "phallic messiah" tempted to perform homosexual acts;
and its ecumenical and unbiblical teachings should dissuade any true Christian from participating. Promise Keepers is proving to be one of the most ungodly and misleading movements in the annals of Christian history. Nevertheless, Max Lucado is a promoter of this ecumenical, charismatic, psychologized men's movement, as evidenced by his speaking at two 1997 Promise Keepers stadium rallies.
It is a fact that the Abomination of Desolation involved prostitution and SODOMY as acts of worship in the Jerusalem Temple and the GYMNASIUM which is a DEAD GIVE AWAY. The NEW WINESKINS god, Dionysus, was the EXPECTED MESSIAH of the perverted priesthoods (all priesthoods have ALWAYS been perverted.)
Singing, clapping and mocking while PIPING intended to initiate Jesus to prove that He was Dionysus. This was prophesied in Psalm 41 where
"Music" is connected AS worship almost totally in the literature to the worship of goddesses whom may be masked as males, or the male DIONYSUS (the god of NEW WINESKINS) who is unmistakengly EFFEMINATE because his mother began dressing him as a woman. Therefore, the WINESKINS and SPECTACLE worship was devoted to PERVERTED gods and goddess. The "priests," in the words of Paul were totally EMASCULATED but as in ALL priesthoods they were male prostitutes, Catamites or Sodomites. The FIRST ADVENT of Christ was marked by a priesthood who anticipated that "messiah" would be Dionysus worshiped sexually and musically in the Abomination of Desolation in the Jerusalem temple.
The end-time "worship" in church which honors CIRCE the holy prostitute every time we say it, will be overrun with "rhetoricians, sOPHISts (Ophis=Serpents in Revelation), singers, musicians and CRAFTSMEN or TECHNE who manufacture RITUALS to make sure that God doesn't fail. To say fluteIST or guitarIST was a MARK of perversion. This is why Jesus cast out the TEAM more or less violently as one EJECTS DUNG. In the Greek background they are the sorcerers or soothsayers or poisoners. Because they EAT the widows into distress they were all called PARASITES.
Elders who are men and Christians must STAND UP and resume the ONLY teaching or preaching role along with the deacons who are able to GO AND TEACH. There is no role for a professional clergy. You get what you PURCHASE: now they are EJECTING you and calling in all of their DITTO BUDDIES to steal the hard earned wages (never tithed) and steal the church houses of widows.
The more CUNNING they look and sound the more you shoud REPEL them as Jesus repudiated the DOCTORS OF THE LAW WHO TOOK AWAY THE KEY TO KNOWLEDGE.
# LYNN ANDERSONS BRINGS PROMISE KEEPERS SHEPHERDING AND DISCIPLING DILEMA TO ST. LOUIS.An Index of Articles of the turn from the WORD to SYMBOLS AND IMAGES (IDOLS). Don't confess your sexual secrets to ANYONE: He will turn and rend you. A REAL FRIEND could blackmail you with it.
People trained by PROMISE KEEPERS, the WILLOW CREEK CULT and The PURPOSE DRIVEN CULT can actually boast about INFILTRATING and DIVERTING so that the OWNERS of the property may THINK that they are on a train to DALLAS but "we gonna switch them" to a rail going to TULSA. It is common practice for this band of men who seem like the fulfillment of the Book of Revelation for the End- time Harlot church. While exuding "spirituality" the have NO QUALMS about building a TOWER OF POWER like a pyramid to replace the deacons and elders with the STAFF INFECTION. Then they use GRADUALISM like NAVIGATING THE WINDS OF CHANGE so that the FROG is cooked without even knowing that the water was being HEATED.Rather than going out from a peacable church and founding their own, it is so POST MODERN to see the STEALING OF THE CHURCH HOUSES OF WIDOWS as a PROPHETIC command of God.
They hesitate not to SWITCH AND BAIT to suck you into the LEGALISTIC LAW OF GIVING and then DIVERT the money to something like a GYMNASIUM which was a symbol and reality of the Abomination of Desolation in the Jerusalem Temple.
Those who see the perversion of NEW STYLE WORSHIP run for their lives and the SEEKERS have now replaced the GIVERS with KNOW NOTHINGS who need their pleasure centers stroked in a SEXUAL CLIMACTIC experiend according to Vinyard's Carol Wimber. THEN the final ACT OF WORSHIP is GIVING OF MEANS.
THOSE WHO SPOKE IN TONGUES IN PAUL'S ARENA WERE "UNCOVERED PROPHESIERS" WHO BECAME THE PATTERN FOR THE CHRIST AND BIBLE- REJECTING apostasy. It is IDENTICAL to that detailed clearly by John. Circe, the holy whore who gave her name to be worshipped as CHURCH, used music and drugs or sorcery or magical enchantments to SEDUCE people. Then, she put them on her Babylon- like farm and to feed them she replaced the WORD with Dung patty cakes. That is why Jesus cast out the TEAM as one would eject DUNG.
# Speaking in Tongues endorsed by Oak Hill's Max Lucado? Defends Don Finto:
"Kalla ma sone, da fa kooka shores. It kin da la key la shone da la kene (his voice becomes hoarse and is reduced to an indistinguishable whisper). Bear fose sone ta wentta lone (voice trails off into a whisper again). Da lotta tongue de cush&endash;a&endash;wong do so coo toe. Ah shon da ba she dees ... O. Lord, your good ... Gash a la mon sewer. El ah ma she sa (more whispering). Fa kon a la ma dorman begetta see de so lawsuit..
However, the identity of "Rusty" is in question still and we are informed was not Max who was present and who honors Don Finto a latter-day prophet.
"The article you mention was an editorial and much of it was transcribed from a tape of the service. I (sic) two tapes from which the transcript in the Firm Foundation (1997) was taken. The Rusty referred to in the tape was not Max Lucado, but is not further identified (J.E. Choate thinks he was from a group called "The Kansas City Prophets). The tapes record services at the Belmont Church in Nashville (June 26, 1988), and the article makes reference to a dinner on April 22, 1997. As best I can remember, Lucado said nothing that was recorded, but was present -- a silent witness. I do have the tapes, but need to get them copied for you. Since I cannot send the tapes email, you will need to give me your mailing address."
H.A. "Buster" Dobbs"
Jubilee 1997 was when the team taught that baptism was not necessary. I am sorry that the Kansas City Prophets were involved. Kenneth Sublett
"It is reported that apparently Don Finto got a vision at Roswell with little green men speaking to him: When they spoke it sounded like, "Ga da fa ka sock ah mock ah." "Finto thought God was speaking to him.
That is what the pagans do: SOCK it to you and then MOCK you. Judas would not TRIUMPH OVER Jesus with socking and MOCKING music. However, the Warrior Musicians tried to pollute Jesus by MOCKING HIM.
Max Lucado, Don Finto, Rubel Shelly along with Steve Flatt hatched up the JUBILEE movement which sowed massive discord and promoted a charismatic Lucadoism. The JUBILEE absolutely REPUDIATES Jesus' fulfillment of the JUBILEE as well as the Passover. The meaning of Jubilee has always been external rituals FOR THEIR ATONEMENT.
Max spent several years among the Spiritists (Espiritas) in Brazil and Operation 68 brought back an UNHOLY SPIRIT. This religion was brought from Africa just as Voodoo repeated African religion. Musicologists are certain that modern CHURCH HYMNOLOGY is afflicted with VOODOO.
# See Dennis Downing spreading the Oak Hills / Max Lucado and Rubel Shelly's JUST- JESUS which must be ANTI- CHRIST. As The Family of God they are subverting Brazilian churches.
# The centrality of religious trance and contact with spirits: The contact with god and the state of spiritual "possession" evoked by religious trance are elements of Brazilian religious culture shared to a larger or smaller extent by most religious groups. Definitely, this element stems in the first instance from the strong influence of African religions
Emotional religiousness: Religious rituals in Brazil many times incorporate rhythmical singing, and prayers conducted with expressive voice and accompanied by accentuated body movements. These elements, which also represent an element of the Afro-Brazilian heritage,
produce an elevated emotional atmosphere, and facilitate to enter in a state of religious trance. According to Kriesel (2001) this kind of religious behaviour mirrors the "discourse of the body". characteristic for Brazilian culture in general. Brazilians use their body as a means for expressing and communicating feelings of pleasure, suffering, and many other kinds of emotions, much more than Europeans do.
This kind of religiousness is particularly attractive to lower class people. However, during the last decades, an increasing demand for emotional religiousness has been observed also among the members of the (white) middle-class.
While many Baptists are GNOSTIC and a UNIQUELY AMERICAN RELIGION, Max Lucado goes beyond limits to restore what seems to be the ancient Babylon religion with PROFESSIONAL CLERGY and others known as the LAITY. The discipling or shepherding method, like Babylon, will consume more time and MONEY in the unlawful TITHING and LAW OF GIVING TO GOD than the IRS for most people.
Because musical paganism was perverting and perverting, John promises:
The first angel went and poured out his bowl on the land, and ugly and painful sores broke out on the people who had the mark of the beast and worshiped his image. Re.16:2
And the second angel poured out his vial upon the sea; and it became as the blood of a dead man: and every living soul died in the sea. Rev 16:3
The HORNS speak of the pipes of the PAN god: the little, goat bodied, pervert always shooting arrows with his shaft of love. This relates to PSALLO or MELODY which Paul outlawed for the assembly;
"And I saw three unclean SPIRITS like FROGS (quacks) come out of the mouth of the dragon (called Sophia in Gnosticism), and out of the mouth of the beast (Called ZOE or Zao in Rev 16:3), and out of the mouth of the false prophet. Revelation 16:13
The BEAST as the NACHASH or musical enchanter in the garden of Eden is really described by a word meaning SIMIAN in nature. The false spirits are like frogs.
"For they are the SPIRITS of DEVILS, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to GATHER them to the BATTLE of that great day of God Almighty. Revelation 16:14
THE WORD: Daimon (g1142) dah'ee-mown; from daio, (to distribute FORTUNES); a doemon or supernatural spirit (of a bad nature): - devil
For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie. Re.22:15
The SEA means SALT:
Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you. Matt 5:12
Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savor, wherewith shall it be salted? It is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men. Matt 5:13
The blood of the DEAD relates to those trying to RAISE THE DEAD perhaps in resurrecting a DEAD CHURCH. Surely the repudiation of Jesus means that they are spiritually dead:
Nekros (g3498) nek-ros'; from an appar. prim. nekus , (a corpse); dead (lit. or fig.; also as noun): - dead
# See Kregg Hood who believes in Africans raising the dead (they use puffer fish poison) and hopes to see it in America.
The SORCERERS in the Book of Revelation use rhetoric, sOPHIStry (the meaning of the end time SERPENT or musical enchantres) is using DRUGS. It is a fact that MUSIC procudes a morphine like drug to POISON you to create the impulses of FIGHT, FLIGHT or SEXUALITY.
Pharmakos
I. a poisoner, sorcerer, magician, NTest.
II. one who is sacrificed as an atonement for others, a scape-goat, Ar.; and, since worthless fellows were reserved for this fate, pharmakos
pharmak-eus , eôs, ho, poisoner, sorcerer, S.Tr.1140, Pl.Smp.203d, etc.; gnęsioi sophistai kai ph. Jul.Or.6.197d
Sophistęs 1 [sophizomai]
I. a master of one's craft or art, an adept, of a diviner, an adept in misery, Eur. sophis-tęs of musicians, sophistęsII. at Athens, a Sophist, i. e. a professor of grammar, rhetoric, politics, mathematics, such as Prodicus, Gorgias, Protagoras, Thuc., Plat., etc. At first the Sophists were held in honour; but from their loose principles they fell into ill repute, and the word came to mean,
2. a sophist (in bad sense), a quibbler, cheat,
agôn-istęs , ou, ho, combatant [WITH POEMS OR SONGS]
2. pleader, debater,
3. actor, Arist.Pr.918b28; theôrois eit' agônistais Achae.3 ; a. tragikôn pathôn Timae.119 .# Plato, Euthydemus, Protagoras, Gorgias, Meno
[290a] and only slightly inferior to that. The sorcerer's art is the charming of snakes and tarantulas and scorpions and other beasts and diseases, while the other is just the charming and soothing of juries, assemblies, crowds, and so forth
And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all. Rev 18:21 [PLEASE, GOD, SOON]
The music of harpists and musicians, flute players and trumpeters, will never be heard in you again. No workman of any trade will ever be found in you again. The sound of a millstone (grinders were prostitutes) will never be heard in you again. Rev 18:22
And the light of a candle (TRUTH) shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee:
for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived. Re.18:23 (Lucifer was the MUSICAL TRAFFICKER)
FLUTE-GIRLS WERE PROSTITUTES. THEREFORE, JESUS CAST THEM OUT LIKE DUNG.
Traders were CRAFTSMEN:
Techne (g5078) tekh'-nay; from the base of 5088; art (as productive), i.e. (spec.) a trade, or (gen.) skill: - art, craft, occupation. [Including prostitutes]
Rhętor-kos , ę, on, oratorical, hę rhętorikę (sc. technę) rhetoric; of persons, skilled in SPEAKING, fit to be an ORATOR
The techne is the craftsmen who will go back into hell along with the Babylon harlot, her musicians and instrumentalists. They were specificially theater builders and stage managers.
A word with similar meaning:
Hupokritikos , ę, on, belonging to hupokrisis 11 , skilled therein, esti phuseôs to hu. einai having a good delivery, Arist.Rh.1404a15
2. suited for speaking or delivery, (sc. technę) the art of delivery, (but, the actor's art, .
3. metaph., acting a part, pretending toHupokrinomai
I. to reply, make answer, answer, Hom., Hdt.
2. to expound, interpret, explain, Od., Ar.:--the attic word in this sense is apo-krinomai.Peter OUTLAWED "private interpretation" or FURTHER EXPOUNDING. That would repudiate Christ's power to EXPOUND Himself.
II. of actors, to answer on the stage: hence to play a part, be an actor
2. to represent dramatically: hence to exaggerate
3. metaph. to play a part, to feign, pretend, c. inf., id=Dem.Of those who would DIVERT a non-instrumental church into being an instrumental church and taking pay for it as rhetorician or Sophist, the Greek had a word for it.
Parasi-tus , i, m., = parasitos, lit. one who eats with another; hence,
I. In gen., a guest (pure Lat. conviva): parasiti Jovis, the gods, Varr. ap. Aug. Civ. Dei, 6, 7; App. M. 10, p. 246, 35.--Hence, parasitus Phoebi, a player, actor, Mart. 9, 29, 9.-- (Phoebi is Apollo or Abaddon who had an early SEEKER CENTER at Delphi)
II. In partic., in a bad sense, one who, by flattery and buffoonery, manages to live at another's expense, a sponger, toad-eater, parasite
All psalmODIA meaning to sing with a harp performed as sorcerers and were therefore parasites. Other endings such as harpIST also means to sing and play which TOGETHER marked one as effeminate or worse: all parasites.
Judas would lead the way to MOCK Jesus with the Warrior Levites.
Strange or stammering tongues is much like naba which described the "prophets" who sang with musical instruments and drove themselves into slobering madness to prove that they had contacted a god. It was prophesied that these people would ATTACK Jesus.
Laeg (h3934) law-ayg'; from 3932; a buffoon; also a foreigner: - mocker, stammering.
But in mine adversity they rejoiced, and gathered themselves together: yea, the abjects gathered themselves together against me, and I knew it not; they did tear me, and ceased not: Ps 35:15
With hypocritical mockers in feasts, they gnashed upon me with their teeth. Ps.35:16
The SECTARIANS of the Pharisees, Scribes (book writers) and Hypocrites were condemned by Jesus because they MOCKED Him with music
Who have received the law by the disposition of angels, and have not kept it. Acts 7:53
When they heard these things, they were cut to the heart, and they gnashed on him with their teeth. Ac.7:54
The MOCKERS are speaking tongues to FOOL THE FOOLS:
lag (h3932) law-ag'; a prim. root; to deride; by impl. (as if imitating a foreigner) to speak unintelligibly: - have in derision, laugh (to scorn), mock (on), stammering.
The word GATHERED is like a FALSE Qahal or synagogue:
Acaph (h622) aw-saf'; a prim. root; to gather for any purpose; hence to receive, take away, i. e. remove (destroy, leave behind, put up, restore, etc.): - assemble, bring, consume, destroy, fetch, gather (in, together, up again), * generally, get (him), lose, put all together, receive, recover [another from leprosy], (be) rereward, * surely, take (away, into, up), * utterly, withdraw.
ASAPH was one of those heads of the MUSICAL GUILDS which were used as slaved drivers for the temple.
Acaph (h623) aw-sawf'; from 622; collector; Asaph, the name of three Isr., and of the family of the first: - Asaph.
The masses of the preachers according to Paul were "super apostles" because they did not believe what they wanted pay to deliver. The rhetoricians, singers and musicians belonged to the SECT of the Hypocrites whom Jesus denounced along with the Pharisees and Scribe (book writers). The sOPHISts or speakers who would take any position if the pric was right are defined as the OPHIS or serpents of the end time religion. So don't look for snakes, look for snakes in the grass. All of these are linked to the sorcerers in the book of Revelation and were, like the flutIST or harpIST were identified as PARASITES.
But the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who had performed the miraculous signs on his behalf.
With these signs he had deluded those who had received the mark of the beast and worshiped his image. The two of them were thrown alive into the fiery lake of burning sulfur. Re.19:20
The deceivers were the WANDERING STARS or false PROPHETS who claim to hear God and get VISIONS:
Planao (g4105) plan-ah'-o; from 4106; to (prop. cause to) roam (from safety, truth, or virtue): - go astray, deceive, err, seduce, wander, be out of the way.
Plane (h4106) plan'-ay; fem. of 4108 (as abstr.); obj. fraudulence; subj. a straying from orthodoxy or piety: - deceit, to deceive, delusion, error.
Woe unto them for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core. Ju.1:11
The literature is full of references to MUSIC being the MARK of the BEAST. Among the Babylonians as renamed by the GNOSTICS, SOPHIA was the serpent. She is sOPHIStry meaning OPHIS which is not a SNAKE but a MUCICAL ENCHANTRESS.
# ZOE, as in the ZOE GROUP, was know as the BEAST and the "female instructing principle."
Introduction to the Babylon and Gnostic Origin of the World
# cho
Music IS the MARK. The MUSES failed to honor the MOTHER OF THE GODS and she turned them into LOCUSTS or (musical performers). They have SCORPION TAILS to sting you with death by PUTTING YOUR MIND TO SLEEP in the HEAT of the SUN. Rubel Shelly thinks of the S.O.N. God as the S.U.N. god and even wants to BAPTIZE SANTA who is SATAN. Max Lucado's Cosmic Christmas is a Gnostic, Lucifer- participating sending of Christ in a VEIL OF LIGHT.
The LOCUSTS or musical performers DRIVE OUT all of those with the MARK of the WORD. Then, they take captive and HOLD those marked with MUSIC until Jesus returns. MUSIC does STING and injects a life- threatening, premature- birth DRUG.
ZOE claims to be the MOTHER - BROTHER of Jesus the LOGOS and is therefore LUCIFER, the Harp-playing prostitute. Jehovah was cast down to the Abyss just like the Bible says that LUCIFER was cast down. Jehovah learned how to SING PRAISES UP to Sophia and Zoe. Therefore, the FEMINIST OR EFFEMINATE leadership promoted him to the SEVENTH heaven (Just below the supreme). However, Jehovah had to COMPOSE PRAISE SONGS and organize a MUSICAL WORSHIP TEAM to send up praises to Sophia and Zoe.
In its fulfillment, females are THE OVERSEERS of the young and now Campus Ministers, Worship Ministers, and PREACHER- SELECT committies. Therefore, MOST modern religions are dominated by the FEMINIST goddesses.
Therefore the BALD FACE, SATANIC LIE that Jehovah's and little LOGO'S (Christ) DEMANDS that we have EFFEMINATE WORSHIP TEAMS.
IT IS SO PLAIN THAT NO FAITHFUL BIBLE STUDENT OR CHRISTIAN CAN MAKE A MISTAKE. THE GENDER REVERSAL of Children and women (effeminate) NOW RULE OVER YOU.
YOUR MISSION, IF YOU CHOOSE TO TAKE IT IS TO QUIT FALLING SUCKER TO THE CHRIST- DENYING TITHE AND THE LAW OF GIVING.
TRITHEISM OR POLYTHEISM minimizes Jesus and replaces him with the PERSON of the Holy Spirit to lead men who claim to SPEAK IN TONGUES and claim to be APOSTLES AND PROPHETS.
# A review of Max Lucado and Rubel Shelly's Incarnational views. This amounts to TRITHEISM or POLYTHEISM so radical that there is only rare glimpse of God being a committee of THREE separated, independant persons.
# Max Lucado Face Lift for Churches of Christ: Too bad that Max Lucado missed the entire Bible about Grace. For instance, he might have learned that The Book of the Covenant as a covenant of Grace was broken at Mount Sinai by the Israelites "rising up to play" in a return to the Babylonian, Egyptian or Canaanite Musical Idolarty.
# Max Lucado - Church of Christ - Sectarianism The anti-churches of Christ movement blames the victim for the crime. "There are two methods of removing the cause of faction: the one, by destroying the liberty which is essential to its existence; the other, by giving to every citizen the same opinions, the same passions, and the same interests." James Madison.
MAX LUCADO rejects the power of Believing, Repenting, Confessing and Baptism. Under the ploy of JUST JESUS he repudiates the VERY COMMANDS of Jesus:
# Max Lucado: The Thief on the Cross: Max Lucado teaches that the thief on the cross was saved just by praying. He believes that Jesus issued the invitation of the RESURRECTED Christ and that the thief responded. Therefore, this is the exception to the rule that only baptized believers are saved. Max claims that it DRIVES legalists MAD but you have to be MAD to repudiate the clear Biblical and historical meaning. Zwingli was another PROPHET who invented BELIEVER'S BAPTISM of FAITH ONLY because, he said in effect, "all that came before me were thieves and liars." However, because the
# Baptist system is GNOSTIC and UNIQUELY AMERICAN, their baptism is identical to PAGAN BAPTISM.
# Max Lucado: Salvation by Trust? All they needed to do was to trust him to save them. All those who believe this are reborn!
# Max Lucado says of Romans 6 that baptism does not save
# Is Max Lucado correct? Baptism a Pledge: Max says:
"I believe in baptism. Jesus was baptized. The Bible teaches baptism. I just don't believe that baptism saves you. I believe that Jesus Christ saves us. And baptism is one of those ways we celebrate our salvation. It's really the initial step of the faithful believer."
Max claims that WE pledge to God to be good people. However, the Word is that we REQUEST A clear conscience or A holy spirit by calling upon God
# Max Lucado Baptism Washed Away at Jubilee 97: At Jubilee 97 Max Lucado preached a system which denies baptism in order to or for the remission of sins. Even the sleeping dogs woke up momentarily.
SEPHERDING - DISCIPLING DILEMA: THE BABYLONIAN PATTERN
# Shepherding Max Lucado Oak Hills Church of Christ: Max Lucado, promoter of Promise Keepers now seems to be using some of the same CULTIC SHEPHERDING language
# LYNN ANDERSONS BRINGS PROMISE KEEPERS SHEPHERDING AND DISCIPLING DILEMA TO ST. LOUIS.
"McCartney envisioned a NATIONAL SHEPHERDING NETWORK to deepen Promise Keeper's clout in local communities. I see every guy leaving out of [Stand in the Gap] and coming under the authority of a local shepherd. "This marks something of a change in PK's public approach, since they previously had avoided the use of the term
# Shepherding" due to its highly controversial association with cultlike practices by fringe churches in the charismatic movement. (Speaking on Pat Robertson's 700 Club a few days before the march)
A similar article
# Chronicles the Shepherding movement of the Crossroads, Boston Movement and the International Churches of Christ.
UPDATED 10/16/04 to show the UNIVERSAL connection between MUSIC in paganism and homosexuality: you cannot be MILDLY CHARISMATIC. Even if non-participatory it has always been known as LUST of the eyes or ears producing visual or aurol orgasm.
# Cosmic Christmas: Similarity to Shamash The Sun God worship. Using language quite identical to Gnosticism, Max Lucado involves Lucifer in God's sending a VIAL OF LIGHT which contained God's Essence. The Bible says that Christ who WAS God came on His own.
Some of this is repeated as more specific
# Max Lucado: dittoed by Rubel Shelly teaching that Holy Spirit is our Song Writer and Dance Master
Rubel Shelly: My friend, Max Lucado, compares the role of the Spirit in our lives to a guy who wants to learn to dance. The music starts, and the next thing the guy knows he's dancing without the book!
# Cell Groups and Circles - Review Frank Viola
# Church Circles "One way to create new units is to subdivide, but don't tell anyone what you are doing. Do not dare tell them you are dividing the class. Tell them you are subdividing into PRAYER CIRCLES, OR DISCUSSION CIRCLES, CARE OR SOMETHING INNOCUOUS LIKE THAT.
The worship of Zeus and Dionysus was the Abomination of Desolation in the Jerusalem Temple. The gymnasium led to uncontrolled sexual perversion and people engaged in sexual intercourse even in the Most Holy Place.
Therefore, the Jewis Clergy was so polluted that Jesus spoke only in Parables to HIDE his truth from them. Writers of the time make it clear that the Jews EXPECTED that Messiah would be Dionysus or Bacchus: the god of the new WINESKINS, song, dance and sodomy.
By defining that group to children who wanted to play fertility gmes in the MARKETPLACE, Jesus pointed us to the fact that when they PIPED, Jesus if the real Dionysus, must sing the perverted song and perform the choral dance.
Therefore, the Holy Spirit whose name is JESUS or Jehovah- Saves, DID NOT BOW and destroyed all of those who tried it on others along with their CAMPUS.
# Our Home Page Kenneth Sublet
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