Renee Sproles Christ Grants Female Authority
Renee Sproles relies on MALE Theologians who opted out of Holy Scripture and adopted Historical Theology. As Gardner observes in detail, Renee does misquotes Holy Scripture.
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THE HOSTILE FEMALE TAKEOVER AS DOCUMENTED BY HOLY SCRIPTURE:
Gal328 NEITHER Gender Justice Church of Christ.
Jesus died to cast out all religious performers (Greek Parasites) and Left God-Sent Scribes recording of the New Covenant or the Last Will and Testament of Jesus. A Christian (Disciple, Student only) would never preside over the HEIRS and ramble on about "truth begins with me."
A more godly pattern would be to leave a Bible-Based Church (her's was never quiet there) and Join one that supported her provably false views. A large number of the OWNERS were offended and usually quietly left. However, there names have been taken down and you need only offend one "babe" or true Disciple to get yourself fitted for a millstone.
Renee Sproles claims that it is DEMANDED that God and Jesus' nature give authority for women to reject Holy Scripture and repudiate Paul and and all historic scholarship. She muses over the fact that she is a dominant speaker in a church which conforms to the direct comands of Holy Scripture and well documented in THUS SAITH THE LAW. A ONCE-CHURCH OF CHRIST IS CONTROLLED BY "SENIOR PASTOR AND FEMALES" RENEW.ORG OF THE HARPETH CHRISTIAN CHURCH. It is an amazing feat that the Christ-ordained Elders and Deacons have become almost invisible. The Musical Praise Minister claims that he plans and OVERSEES the Worship. Isn't that spooky. And the ladies Preside Over by "singing their own "truth" which began with them.
GOD'S SPIRIT IN ISAIAH 3 DEFINED THE DAY WHEN WOKE FEMINISTS WOULD RULE OVER EVERYONE
BEFORE WOKE WE ENJOYED FREEDOM OF ASSOCIATION: The Purpose Driven Pattern prepared Y2K, Moses's day 6 as the Launch Day for the Infiltration and Diversion of Churches of Christ and "turn them into theaters for holy entertainment." The two KEY POINTS were "Instrumental Music and Female Leaders." Jubilee was the opening Salvo of the 1989 Nashville Jubilee.
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John 8:31 Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;CLICK: THE HOSTILE FEMALE TAKEOVER BASED ON MIRIAM THE PROPHETESS
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Musical Performers are Sorcerers (Rev.18), Abomination, Reprobate: Apollyon's Locusts separating the TARES for burning.
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Chapter II.-The Gods are Despised When They are Made; But Become Valuable When Bought.
The "Elder's Vision" composed by David Young denounces the Church that is paying him, Promises great changes and also promised a gradual and instructive process to not disturb anyone:
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This change agenda was working its way where my family had been members and "investor" for 17 years.
Very early David signaled his plan NOT to oppose Instrumental Music and was convincing others to follow the plot.
So far they have followed the GRADUALISM pattern with A Musical Worship Team. This has not yet reached the process of adding instruments.
AS RESULT OF SEVERAL SERMONS SPEAKING OF INSTRUMENTAL WORSHIP AND OBVIOUSLY ENDORSED BY THE ELDERS I POSTED THE FOLLOWING PAPER
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I have used some review notes from Steve Gardner
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THE NEW THEOLOGIANS (MYTHOLOGISTS CONNECTED TO APOLLYON) READILY CONFESS THAT THEIR UNERSTANDING IS MORE ENLIGHTENED THAN JESUS.
ACCORDING TO JESUS THOSE IN THIS WORLD AND OF THIS WORLD ARE NOT PERMITTED TO SPEAK HOLY SCRIPTURE.
CLICK: GOD HIDES FROM THE WISE SOPHISTS : RHETORIC, MUSIC, SCENIC
CLICK: STEVE GARDNER QUOTES IN RED
CLICK: CORNERSTONE: HOLY SPIRIT IN ISAIAH AND DEFINITIONS
CLICK: TOO BAD, JESUS IS STILL THE ONLY SOURCE OF TRUTH:
CLICK: CONTRADICTING GO, JESUS, HOLY SCRIPTURE AND ALL LITERATE HISTORICAL SCHOLARS
CLICK: THE PROBLEM FROM CULTURE: ORACLES WERE ALL FEMALE
CLICK: THE ONLY AUTHORITY TO TEACH BEGINS AND ENDS WITH GOD
CLICK: 1 CORINTHIANS 11: 5 THIS PROPHESYING WOULD DO MORE HARM THAN GOOD
CLICK: UNCOVERED PROPHETS THEN AND NOW REJECT ALL AUTHORITY.
CLICK: JESUS IS THE HEAD AFTER BEING A FAITHFUL LEARNER
CLICK: THERE WERE NO FEMALE PROPHETS ORDAINED BY AN APOSTLE
CLICK: PEOPLE MAY BE MEN HATERS BUT THEY MUST HATE JESUS
CLICK: ONLY BAPTIZED BELIEVERS WITH "A" HOLY SPIRIT CAN READ BLACK TEXT ON BROWN PAPER..
CLICK: GOD SENT SCRIBES TO MAKE "PROPHESYING" OBSOLETE,
CLICK: ONLY GOD EMPOWERED PROPHETS TO LEAVE NO WORK UNDONE FOR MODERN SPEAKERS
CLICK: THE SPIRIT OR MENTAL DISPOSITION OF GOD INDWELLS US AS HIS WORD
CLICK: PROPHESYING WAS REVELATION FROM GOD.
CLICK: CHRIST ORDAINED ELDERS AS FEEDERS OF THE FLOCK: SHOCKED INTO SILENCE.
CLICK: GOD SENT JESUS TO EXECUTE FIREY JUDGEMENT ON USURPERS
CLICK: ISAIAH 3 WARNS THAT HE WILL PURGE FEMININE BLOOD
CLICK: JESUS WAS SENT FOR A TINEY REMNANT AND SONS FROM GOD.
CLICK: PROPHESYING DENIES THE FINISHED WORK OF CHRIST AND IS MADNESS.
CLICK: JOHN T. Willis SHE SHALL BE SAVED IN CHILDBEARING
THE HOSTILE FEMALE TAKEOVER BASED ON MIRIAM THE PROPHETESS
John T. Willis defended
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Both STUFFED the "Direct operation of the Holy Spirit and Females" into churches. The thesis was that they woul make so many female ministers that the old foggies could not resist.
The problem is too many graduates from once Christian colleges with university degrees: (about 115F.) Martin Luther who is about 100% distorted warned the new prophets. Judas was a sicarri: a daggar man who carried the flute case. The Sicarri assinated people in public places and then yelled: "Murder, foul murder, catch the murderer." False PROFITS do that. Luther always had great words for the great pretenders.Gal328 NEITHER Gender Justice Church of Christ.
Matt. 18:6 But whoso shall offend one of these little ones
which believe in me,
it were better for him that a millstone
were hanged about his neck,
and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea
What shall we say when godly members are offended and cast themselves away frp, grave offenses.
What shal we say when local congregations "are castigated on T.V. For not being Discipling Woke.
What shall we say when the world-wide Scripture-Literate people are offended
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Exodus 15:[20] sumpsit ergo Maria prophetis soror Aaron tympanum in manu egressaeque sunt omnes mulieres post eam cum tympanis et choris
Ex.15:20 And Miriam the prophetess, the sister of Aaron, took a timbrel in her hand; and all the women went out after her with timbrels and with dances.
Here is what Miriam did which was common did what the Israelites did in Egypt and never ceased to do.-Prophe-ta I. a foreteller, SOOTHSAYER prophet... oraculorumque interpretes, sacerdotes Aegyptiorum, quos prophetas vocant,”, [Priestess of Egpt prophetess call out] Aegyptius, propheta primarius
Sistrum, a metallic rattle which was used by the Egyptians in celebrating the rites of Isis, and in other lascivious festivals,.Ov. Am. 2, 13, 11 By the Jews, Vulg. 1 Reg. [Samuel] 18, 6 .--Hence sarcastically, as if used for a war - trumpet by the wanton Cleopatra Verg. A.8.696 Luc. 10.63
God will afflict Miriam with leprosy when she claims to speak for God. The first meaning of prophet in the PAGAN sense meant a charismatic, musical performer. All dramatic performance is INTERPRETATION which is, according to Paul, just speaking in tongues.
PHRASE: Aegyptius, propheta primarius 1. Aegyptius,
2. Prophetai
3. Primarius I. one of the first, of the first rank, chief, principal, excellent, remarkable,
primarius parasitus,” the first speaker, he who has a right to be heard
Tympanotriba , ae, m., = tumpanotribês,
I. a taborer, a timbrel-player, a term of reproach for a soft, effeminate person (alluding to the priests of Cybele), Plaut. Truc. 2, 7, 49; cf. tympanum.
Părăsītus , i, m., = parasitos, lit. one who eats with another; hence, I. In gen., a guest (pure Lat. conviva): parasiti Jovis, the gods, Hence, parasitus Phoebi, a PLAYER. actor, II. In partic., in a bad sense, one who, by flattery and buffoonery, manages to live at another's expense, a sponger, toad-eater, parasiteSistrum , a metallic rattle which was used by the Egyptians in celebrating the rites of Isis, and in other lascivious festivals,. By the Jews, Vulg. 1 Reg. 18, 6 .--Hence sarcastically, as if used for a war - trumpet by the wanton Cleopatra
-Comically, of a whip: ne ulmos parasitos faciat, that he will make his elm-twigs stick to me like parasites, i. e. give me a sound flogging, he tutelar deity of parasites was Hercules, Plaut. Curc. 2, 3, 79.
John in Revelation 18 as well as ALL definitions of arusal singing and instruments calls it SORCERY used to DECEIVE the whole world. The Iraelite NATION was DECEIVED here and later by usurping women.
A. one who speaks for a god and interprets his will to man
Mantis diviner, seer, prophet Pythian priestess [for APOLLYON], 3. Adj., toude manteôs chorou [round dance] of this prophetic band, dub. in S.Fr.113. II. a kind of grasshopper, the praying mantis, Mantis religiosa, Theoc.10.18, Dsc.Eup.1.149.
Egressaeque I. inf. egredier, Plaut. Poen. 3, 4, 32), (a). To step out, leave, b). To move out, march out, B. Trop. in speaking, to digress, depart, deviate, wander, B. Trop., to overstep, surpass, exceed
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GOD HIDES FROM THE WISE SOPHISTS RHETORIC, MUSIC, SCENIC
Luke 4:18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me,
because he hath anointed me
to preach the gospel to the poor;
he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted,
to preach deliverance to the captives,
and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,
Luke 4:19 To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.
Luke 10:21 In that hour Jesus rejoiced IN spirit, and said,
I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth,
that thou hast HID these things from the wise [Sophos] and prudent, [Skilled and trained]
and hast revealed them unto BABES: even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight.
God HIDES g613. apokrupto, ap-ok-roop´-to; from 575 and 2928; to conceal away (i.e. fully); figuratively, to keep secret: — hide.
Plat. Laws 908d For whereas the one class will be quite frank in its language about the gods and about sacrifices and oaths,
and by ridiculing other people will probably convert others to its views,
unless it meets with punishment,
the other class, while holding the same opinions as the former,
yet being specially “gifted by nature'' and being full of craft and guile,
is the class out of which are manufactured many diviners
and experts in all manner of jugglery;
and from it, too, there spring sometimes tyrants and demagogues and generals,
and those who plot by means of peculiar mystic rites of their own,
and the devices of those who are called “sophists.” Of these there may be many kinds;
magga^n-eia , hē, A.trickery, esp. of magical arts, Pl.Lg.908dPlat. Laws 933a Distinct from this is the type which,
epōdais kai katadesesi
by means of sorceries and incantations [epōdais] and SPELLS (as they are called),
not only convinces those who attempt to cause injury that they really can do so,
but convinces also their victims that they certainly are being injured
by those who possess the power of bewitchment.
In respect of all such matters it is neither easy to perceive what is the real truth,
nor, if one does perceive it, is it easy to convince others.
And it is futile to approach the souls of men
magga^n-eia , hē, A.trickery, esp. of magical arts, Pl.Lg.908d; magganeiai kai epōdai ib.933a;Sophis-tēs , ou, ho, A. master of one's craft, adept, expert, of diviners, Hdt.2.49; of poets, “meletan sophistais prosbalon” Pi.I.5(4).28, cf. Cratin.2; of musicians, “sophistēs . . parapaiōn khelun” [turtle harp]A.Fr.314, cf. Eup.447, Pl.Com. 140; sophistē Thrēki (sc. Thamyris) E.Rh.924, cf. Ath.14.632c: with modal words added, “hoi s. tōn hierōn melōn” (religious melody) “Apollōnidē sophistē”
“meletan sophistais prosbalon
“meletan IV. threatening symptom or condition, of disease, “meletē kai prooimion epilēpsias”Epōdē , Ion. and poet. epa^oidē , hē,A. song sung to or over: hence, enchantment, [burden] spell, “epaoidē d' “ou pros iatrou sophou thrēnein epōdas pros tomōnti pēmati” S.Aj. 582 ; of the Magi, Hdt.1.132 ; “meliglōssois peithous epaoidaisin” A.Pr. 174, cf. S.OC1194 ; “epōdas epadein” X.Mem.2.6.10 sq.; “epōdais haliskesthai” Anaxandr.33.13; “oute pharmaka..oud' au epōdai” Pl.R. 426b ; thusiai kai e. ib.364b ; “tas thusias kai teletas kai tas e.” Id.Smp.202e, etc.: c. gen. obj., charm for or against.., “toutōn epōdas ouk epoiēsen patēr” A.Eu.649.II.apptly., = epōdos 11,
Pharma^kon “paiōnia” A.Ag.848; “khrēsimon” cf. Apoc.9.21.
Manti^s , Sibulla:— diviner, seer, prophet, of Apollo and Cassandra, of the Pythian priestess
The craftsmen, singers and instrument players are MUSES or LOCUSTS led by Apollyon
Rev. 9:20 And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk:
Rev. 9:21 Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries [Pharma^kon] , nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.
Steve Gardner: Scripture Misquote in Primary Themes
A fourth example involves On Gender misquoting scripture and using it in analyzing a key concept.
The Bible says, “… the kephale of every man is Christ,
and kephale of the woman is man,
and kephale of Christ is God.” (1 Cor 11:3)
Truth began with God.
Jesus spoke only what He heard from God (the function of spirit or breath)
Jesus revealed the entire Last Will and Teatament to God-Sent Apostles
Men attended Synagogue School beginning at about age 5 to learn the Prophets by Heart.
Apostles could ordain "prophets" who taught by revelation in church
There might be only one such reuired prophets
No females were ordained as prophets to speak by inspiration
Women were silence because they believe that Truth Began with Them.
God sent Scribes to record the message
The last prophecy (inspired) was "left for our Memory."
The ONLY Pattern for Synagogue an Church was to READ or SPEAK that Last Will.
Renee Sproles: Man and woman here could mean husband and wife, each sex in general, or something else.
Kephale or “head” could have a meaning in the sense of
(a) source, origin, beginning, or representative of a whole
non-hierarchical) (as in head of a river or head
of a line of kids at school),
THE COMMON THEME OF THEOLOGY IS THAT GOD HAD JESUS KICK START THE THING BUT HE LEFT IT TO USE TO COMPLETE THE PLAN. THEY CLAIM THAT GOD NOR JESUS COULD HAVE ANTICIPATED OUR CULTURE.
(b) overseeing authority and leader (hierarchical, as in head of a company),
(c) physical head (head on your body), or something else.
Col. 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church:Sorry about that, you cannot decapatate the HEAD and still be the Body of Christ.
who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead;
that in all things he might have the preeminence.
Matt. 28:16 Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee,
into a mountain where Jesus had appointed them.
Matt. 28:17 And when they saw him, they worshipped him: [fell on their face] but some doubted.
Matt. 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying,
All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
Matt. 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations,
baptizing them in the name [singular] of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Matt. 28:20 TEACHING them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you:
and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. [Aion: Jesus is in chrge until He returns]
On Gender argues kephale (head) for gender comprises a kind of authority and leader, rather than source.[ Its primary argument for this definition includes asserting Christ is called “the head (kephale) cornerstone,” repeating this multiple times with variations.
On Gender misquotes the leading verse on which it relies for this claim, 1 Peter 2:7, though, quoting it as “The stone that the builders rejected has become the very head of the cornerstone.
CORNERSTONE: HOLY SPIRIT IN ISAIAH AND DEFINITIONS
Is. 28:16 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD,
Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone,
a precious corner stone, a sure foundation:
he that believeth shall not make haste.
Matt. 16:16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.Is. 28:17 Judgment also will I lay to the line,
Matt. 16:17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona:
for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee,
but my Father which is in heaven.
Matt. 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter,
and upon this rock I will build my church;
and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
John 6:45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.
John 6:51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world
John 6:62 What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?
John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
John 6:64 But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.
and righteousness to the plummet:
and the hail shall sweep away the refuge of lies,
and the waters shall overflow the hiding place.
Is. 28:18 And your covenant with death shall be disannulled,
and your agreement with hell shall not stand;
when the overflowing scourge shall pass through,
then ye shall be trodden down by it.
Matt. 16:16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.Eph. 2:19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners,
Matt. 16:17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
Matt. 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;
Eph. 2:20 And are built upon [educted in the ekklesia]
the foundation of the apostles and prophets,
Jesus Christ himself being the chief [ONLY Teacher]
corner stone; [At the Angle: Silent and Secret]
gōnia , hē, 2. metaph., corner, secluded spot, “en gōnia psithurizein
” Pl.Grg.485d; “en g. pepragmenon” Act.Ap.26.26.IV. of persons, leader, chief, LXX 1 Ki.14.38. (Akin to gonu.)
Eph. 3:2 If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward:
Eph. 3:3 How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words,
Eph. 3:4 Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ)
Eph. 3:5 Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit;
Col. 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church:
who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead;
that in all things he might have the preeminence
Head caput c [d. Poet., the head, as the seat of the understanding: The first or chief person or thing, the head, leader, chief, guide
preeminence prīmātus, the first place or rank, preference, pre-eminence, primacy
“primatum obtinere [holding apud regem,
apud Holding First Place with me, in my house, etc., in one's house, at the house of a person
educaretur, in his (scholis) educatur orator,”
scholis skholē (spare time, leisure; hence, in partic.),
2. The disciples or followers of a teacher, a school, sect
regem, ruling, that rules or sways:
John 18:37 Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then?
Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king.
To this end was I born,
and for this cause came I into the world,
that I should bear witness unto the truth.
* Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.
disciplinā discipulus, instruction, tuition, teaching in the widest sense of the word
philosophical doctrines, philosophical
TOO BAD, JESUS IS STILL THE ONLY SOURCE OF TRUTH:
John 1:17 For the law was given by Moses,FOOTNOTE: On Gender, pp. 58-63. The book describes
but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.
John 6:14 Then those men, when they had seen the miracle that Jesus did,
said, This is of a truth that PROPHET that should come into the world.
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the WAY (road, pattern , the truth, and the life:
no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
John 14:7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also:
and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
some desirable qualities of men or husbands in the Bible
and of Christ’s example,
and attempts to shoehorn those into a kind and theme of authority
for the meaning of kephale or head, see, e.g., ibid., pp. 59-63, 65-69
CONTRADICTING GOD, JESUS, HOLY SCRIPTURE AND ALL LITERATE HISTORICAL SCHOLARS
(“authority of his headship combines mercy and rightness with God”),
rather than seeing the qualities as ones of loving others,
Christ’s love, following his example, and submitting to others,
none of which requires or encourages authority over others
(indeed, it discourages such authority),
much less authority based on sex
or other immutable characteristic, such as race.
Gardner quoting footnote: [8] Ibid., p. 7, et seq. Another point of ambiguity and vagueness, for example, is the book’s discussion regarding deacon.THE PROBLEM FROM CULTURE: ORACLES [SORCERERS] WERE ALL FEMALE
It appears that On Gender asserts females can and should
hold the church office of deacon,
be designated by a congregation as a deacon, and the like, ibid., pp. 84-85,
but the language the book uses (e.g., “technical sense,” “Phoebe held the official work of the deacon
1Tim. 3:8 Likewise must the deacons be grave, not doubletongued,
not given to much wine, not greedy of filthy lucre;
1Tim. 3:9 Holding the mystery of the faith in a pure conscience. [BIBLE LITERATE]
1Tim. 3:10 And let these also first be proved;
then let them use the office of a deacon, being found blameless.
1Tim. 3:11 Even so must their wives be grave,
not slanderers, sober, faithful in all things.
1Tim. 3:12 Let the deacons be the husbands of one wife
Ruling their children and their own houses well.
1Tim. 3:13 For they that have used the office of a deacon well
purchase to themselves a good degree,
and great boldness in the faith which is in Christ Jesus.
There was no CHURCH OF CHRIST in Cenchrea: The Ekklesia in Cenchrea was a Greek Civil assembly which could not introduce any laws. Their task was to READ documents from a higher governing body. They did not SING nor would your city council be so stupid that they would hire a musical worship team to CHANGE the laws and SING them which has the power of sorcery. Phoebe was welcome-wagon SPONSORING settlers or honest visitors like Paul. If Phoebe attended and assembly of Christ, she would sit down, shut up and listen to the READING and CONFESSING of the SCRIPTURES ONLY: they nor anyone else PASSED THE PLATE
THIS IS ABSOLUTEL PATTERN FOR THE CHURCH: The Lord's Supper remembered the DEATH of Jesus which forced all CHRISTIANS to refrain from personal comments.
1Pet. 4:11 If any man speak, let him speak as the oracles of God; if any man minister, let him do it as of the ability which God giveth: that God in all things may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom be praise and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
1Tim. 2:5 For there is one God,THE ONLY AUTHORITY TO TEACH BEGINS AND ENDS WITH GOD
and one mediator [Paraclete, Comforter, Intercessor, Speaker throug the WORD.]
between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
1Tim. 2:6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be TESTIFIED in due time.
1Tim. 2:7 Whereunto I am ordained a preacher, and an apostle,
Both are eye-witnesses capable of certifining the Last Will And Testament.(I speak the truth in Christ, and lie not;) a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and verity
Jesus gift PREACHER in Ephesins 4 because elders are the ONLY Pastor-Teachers comanded to "Teach that which has been taught."
1Cor. 11:1 Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.
1Cor. 11:2 Now I praise you,
brethren, that ye remember me in all things,
and keep the ordinances, as I delivered them to you.
1Th. 1:5 For our gospel came not unto you in word only,1Cor. 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ;
but also in power, and in the Holy Ghost, and in much assurance;
as ye know what manner of men we were among you for your sake.
1Th. 1:6 And ye became followers of us,
and of the Lord, having received the word in much affliction,
with joy of the Holy Ghost:
1Th. 1:7 So that ye were ensamples to all that believe in Macedonia and Achaia.
1Th. 1:8 For from you sounded out the word of the Lord not only in Macedonia and Achaia,
but also in every place your faith to God-ward is spread abroad;
so that we need not to speak any thing.
1Th. 1:9 For they themselves shew of us what manner of entering in we had unto you,
and how ye turned to God from idols to serve the living and true God;
and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
1Cor. 11:4 Every man praying or prophesying,
having his head covered, dishonoureth his head.
Col. 2:19 And not holding the Head, from which all the body by joints and bands having nourishment ministered, and knit together, increaseth with the increase of God.1 CORINTHIANS 11: 5 THIS PROPHESYING DID MORE HARM THAN GOO IN CHURCH.
Col. 2:20 Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why, as though living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances,
Col. 2:21 (Touch not; taste not; handle not;
Col. 2:22 Which all are to perish with the using;)
after the commandments and doctrines of men?
Col. 2:23 Which things have indeed a shew of wisdom in will worship,
and humility, and neglecting of the body; not in any honour to the satisfying of the flesh.
Prophēt-euō A. [select] to be a prophētēs or interpreter of the gods, “manteueo, Moisa, prophateusō d' egō” Pi. l.c.; tis prophēteuei theou; who is his interpreter? E.Ion 413; “hoi prophēteuontes tou hirou” Hdt.7.111; “hēpsukhē ta theia katalabomenē tois te anthrōpois prophēteuousa” Arist.Mu.391a16; “hou manteiou proeistēkei prophēteuōn” Luc.VH2.33, cf. Plu.2.412b; ouk estin hostis soi prophēteusei tade will be thy intermediary in asking this, E.Ion 369; hē mania . . prophēteusasa with oracular power, Pl.Phdr.244d:—Pass., ta prophēteuthenta Sch.Od. 12.9.
The musical worship teams or MUSES were to interpret the WILL of all of the gods worshipped by pagans and a church near you:
Mousa , Dios [ZEUS, Ploutōn, non-Greek divinities, “Z. Ammōn” Pi.P. 4.16, FREQUENTLY OF Semitic Baalim, Z. Beelbōsōro, “hiereus Seleukou Dios Nikatoros”THE MAD WOMEN IN CORINTH AN EPHESUS
hier-eus of the Jewish High Priest, D.S.34/5.1; comically, “leptotatōn lērōn hiereu” Ar.Nu.359; hi. Dionusou, of a winebibber, Eup.19; “hi. philosophias”
ni_katōr a_, oros, ho, Dor. for nikētōr, A. conqueror, cult-name of Seleucus I and Demetrius, kings of Syria
Plut. Arist. 6 they rejoiced to be surnamed ‘Besiegers,’ or ‘Thunderbolts,’ or ‘Conquerors,’ and some ‘Eagles,’ or ‘Hawks,’ cultivating the reputation which is based on violence and power, as it seems, rather than on virtue.Matthew 12:24 But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, This fellow doth not cast out devils, but by Beelzebub the prince of the devils.
Mant-euomai 2. generally, presage, forebode, surmise, of presentiment, Opposite. knowledge, Pl.Cra.411b, R.349a,
II. consult an oracle, seek divinations, Pi.O.7.31, Hdt.1.46, 4.172, etc.; “en Delphoisi” Id.6.76; “ho gar theos manteuomenō moukhrēsen en Delphois pote” Ar.V.159, cf. Av.593
The mark of Apollo, Abaddon, Apollyon and the Muses at Delphi.
khraō (B). A. FORMS: contr. I. in Act. of the gods and their oracles, proclaim, abs., “khreiōn muthēsato Phoibos” 8.79: “hē Puthiē [serpent] hoi khra tade” Hdt.1.55, “kh. mantesi [mad] Mousais” Ar.Av.724
From Charis or Grace: See Charismatic Worship
b. khrēsthai tini (without philō) to be intimate with a man, X.Hier.5.2, Mem.4.8.11
2. esp. of sexual intercourse, “gunaixi ekhrato” Hdt.2.181, cf. X.Mem.1.2.29, 2.1.30, Is.3.10, D.59.67.
Aristoph. Birds 724
If you recognize us as gods, we shall be your divining Muses, through us you will know the winds and the seasons, summer, [725] winter, and the temperate months. We shall not withdraw ourselves to the highest clouds like Zeus, but shall be among you and shall give to you [730] and to your children and the children of your children, health and wealth, long life, peace, youth, laughter, songs and feasts; in short, you will all be so well off, [735] that you will be weary and cloyed with enjoyment.III. hold office of “prophētēs, Theodōrou propha_teuontos” IG7.4155 (Ptoön), cf. 12(1).833.6 (Lindus), PGnom.211 (ii A.D.).IV. to be a quack doctor,
UNCOVERED PROPHETS THEN AND NOW REJECT ALL AUTHORITY.
PAUL WILL FORBID ALL 'PROPHESYING' BY WOMEN BECAUSE THEY WERE CAUSING CONFUSION AN THEY HAD NOT BEEN ORDAINED BY THE LAYING ON OF HANDS OF WOMEN.
UNCOVERED PROPHETS THEN AND NOW REJECT ALL AUTHORITY.
kepha^lē , generally, source, origin, Zeus k.
Eph. 1:22 And hath put ALL THINGS under his feet,
and gave him to be the head
over all things to the church,
Eph. 1:23 Which is his body,
the fulness of him that filleth all in all.
JESUS IS THE HEAD AFTER BEING A FAITHFUL LEARNER
John 8:28 Then said Jesus unto them,
When ye have lifted up the Son of man,
then shall ye know that I am he,
and that I do nothing of myself;
but as my Father hath TAUGHT me,
I SPEAK these things.
1Cor. 11:5 But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.
Prophe-ta I. a foreteller, SOOTHSAYER prophet... oraculorumque interpretes, sacerdotes Aegyptiorum, quos prophetas vocant,”, [Priestess of Egpt prophetess call out] Aegyptius, propheta primarius1Cor. 11:10 For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels
PHRASE: Aegyptius, propheta primarius 1. Aegyptius,
2. Prophetai
3. Primarius I. one of the first, of the first rank, chief, principal, excellent, remarkable,
primarius parasitus,” the first speaker, he who has a right to be heard
Prophêt-ês A. one who speaks for a god and interprets his will to man, Dios p. interpreter, expounder of the will of Zeus, 2. title of official keepers of the oracle at Branchidae, b. in Egyptian temples, member of the highest order of the clergy, priest, 3. interpreter, expounder of the utterances of the mantis [Mad Women Corinth]
Mantis diviner, seer, prophet Pythian priestess, 3. Adj., toude manteôs chorou [round dance] of this prophetic band, dub. in S.Fr.113. II. a kind of grasshopper, the praying mantis, Mantis religiosa, Theoc.10.18, Dsc.Eup.1.149.
UNLESS ORDAINED
[Angĕlus , i, m., = aggelos]. B. In mal. part.: “Diabolus et angeli ejus,” Vulg. Matt. 25, 41: “angelus Satanae,” ib. 2 Cor. 12, 7 al.Aggelos 2. generally, one that announces or tells, e.g. of birds of augury, Il.24.292,296; Mousōn aggelos, of a poet, Thgn.769; “aggele earos . . khelidoMousa , ēs, hē, Aeol. Moisa II. mousa, as Appellat., music, song, III“m. stugera” [ pathos 2. hateful, wretched, “bios” [MAKING A LIVING OFF GOD] A.Eu.308 (anap.); “euphamos” Id.Supp.695 (lyr.);“kanakhan . .CLANGING BRASS theias antiluron mousas” S.Tr.643 (lyr.);“Aiakō moisan pherein” Pi.N.3.28; tis hēde mousa;Mousa , Apollyon's Musical Worship Teams-LocustsDios aigiokhoio thugateres” [Daughters whatever the sex][1] MUSICIANS ARE stugeros A .hated, abominated, loathed, or hateful, abominable, loathsome mousa music, song, “m. stugerakanakhan . .1Cor. 13:1 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymba.THEIAS etheiazon obtained inspiration through ritual
antiluron responding to the lyre or guitar.
Aoidos , ho, (aeidō) A.singer, minstrel, bard THEIOS a
Enchanter, Sorcere[2] MUSICIANS “adein [singers are] adokimon mousa
adokimon disreputable, discredited, reprobate,
[3] MUSICIANS They are from Aidēs” Haidēs Aidao domoisi in the nether world to the nether world, 2. place of departed spirits,
2. gen. hadou with nouns in adjectival sense, devilish,
“thuousan ha. mēter'” A.Ag.1235; “ha. mageiros”
thuousan Silenced in Romans 12 so that Worship is Spiritual, rational or teaching the Word, Logos, Regulative Principle only
[4] MUSICIANS are FOREORDAINED to this JUDGMENT and a "Locusts" chase the GODLY out.
Jude.There.Should.Be.Mockers.in.the.Last.Time.html
[5] MUSICIANS MOCKED
Worship.Androgyny.The.Pagan.Sexual.Ideal.html
Jeanene.Reese.LGBT.MUST.be.Included.html
[6] MUSICIANS They Do NOT know God nor Christ
2.John.1.9.The.Doctrine.of.Christ.html
Col. 2:18 Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,n a voluntary humility (qelwn en tapeinofrosunh). Render delighting in humility. This rendering is well supported by Septuagint usage. See 1 Sam. xviii. 22; 2 Sam. xv. 26; 1 Kings x. 9; 2 Chronicles ix. 8. 200 It falls in, in the regular participial series, with the other declarations as to the vain conceit of the teachers; signifying not their purpose or their wish to deprive the Christians of their reward, but their vain enthusiasm for their false doctrine, and their conceited self-complacency which prompted them to sit as judges. The worship of angels involved a show of humility, an affectation of superior reverence for God, as shown in the reluctance to attempt to approach God otherwise than indirectly: in its assumption that humanity, debased by the contact with matter, must reach after God through successive grades of intermediate beings. For humility, see on Matt. xi.1Cor. 11:17 Now in this that I declare unto you I praise you not,
Col. 2:19 And not holding the Head, from which all the body by joints and bands having nourishment ministered, and knit together, increaseth with the increase of God.
Col. 2:20 Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why, as though living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances,
Col. 2:21 (Touch not; taste not; handle not;
Col. 2:22 Which all are to perish with the using;) after the commandments and doctrines of men?
Col. 2:23 Which things have indeed a shew of wisdom in will worship, and humility, and neglecting of the body; not in any honour to the satisfying of the fles
that ye come together not for the better, but for the worse.
1Cor. 11:18 For first of all, when ye come together in the church,
I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it.
1Cor. 11:19 For there must be also heresies among you,
that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.
THERE WERE NO FEMALE PROPHETS ORDAINED BY AN APOSTLE
There could be only ONE Prophet, ordained by an Apostle, to SPEAK the Word of God
1Cor. 14:35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home:
for it is a SHAME for women to speak in the church.
for that is even all one as if she were shaven
THERE MIGHT BE JUST ONE INSPIRED PROPHET IN A CONGREGATION.
1Cor. 12:8 For to ONE is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom;
to ANOTHER the word of knowledge by the same Spirit
1Cor. 12:8 For to ONE is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to ANOTHER the word of knowledge by the same Spirit
1Cor. 12:9 To ANOTHER faith by the same Spirit; to ANOTHER the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;
1Cor. 12:10 To ANOTHER the working of miracles; to ANOTHER
1Cor. 12:11 But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he willPEOPLE MAY BE MEN HATERS BUT THEY MUST HATE JESUS AND PAUL AND AND THEIR OWN CHURCH.
John 8:29 And he that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone; for I do always those things that please him.
John 8:30 As he spake these words, many believed on him.
John 8:31 Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;ONLY BAPTIZED BELIEVERS WITH "A" HOLY SPIRIT CAN READ.
John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
Col. 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, t
Eph. 5:21 Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God.
Eph. 5:22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
Eph. 5:23 For the husband is the head of the wife,
even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
Eph. 5:24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.
Eph. 5:25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
Eph. 5:26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,
Eph. 5:27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church,
not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing;
but that it should be holy and without blemish.
Eph. 5:28 So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.
he firstborn from the dead; that in
all things he might have the preeminence.
Col. 1:19 For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;
prophēt-euō , A. to be a prophētēs or interpreter of the gods, “manteueo, Moisa, prophateusō d' egō”
II. expound, interpret, preach, under the influence of the Holy Spirit, Ev.Luc.1.67, Ev.Jo.11.51, Act.Ap.2.17, 19.6, 1 Ep.Cor. 11.4, 13.9, al.: also “dēmiourgōn kheires p. ta poiēmata” Callistr.Stat. 2.2Cor. 3:1 Do we begin again to commend ourselves? or need we, as some others,
epistles of commendation to you, or letters of commendation from you?
2Cor. 3:2 Ye are our epistle written in our hearts, known and read of all men:
2Cor. 3:3 Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us,
written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.
2Cor. 3:12 Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech:
2Cor. 3:13 And not as Moses, which put a vail over his face,
that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:
2Cor. 3:14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away
in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.
2Cor. 3:15 But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.
2Cor. 3:16 Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, [Turn, convert, baptized]
The vail shall be taken away.
2Cor. 3:17 NOW THE LORD IS THAT SPIRIT
and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
2Cor. 3:18 But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord,
are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.
GOD SENT SCRIBES TO MAKE "PROPHESYING" OBSOLETE,
Matt. 23:34 Wherefore, behold,
I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and SCRIBES:
and some of them ye shall kill and crucify;
and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues,
and persecute them from city to city:
Luke 11:49 Therefore also said the wisdom of God,
I will send them prophets and apostles,
and some of them they shall slay and persecute:
ONLY GOD EMPOWERED PROPHETS TO LEAVE NO WORK UNDONE FOR MODERN SPEAKERS
1Cor. 13:8 Charity never faileth:
1Cor. 13:8 Charity never faileth:
but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail;
whether there be tongues, they shall cease;
whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.
1Cor. 13:9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.
1Cor. 13:10 But when THAT WHICH IS PERFECT IS COME,
then that which is in part shall be done away.THE SPIRIT OR MENTAL DISPOSITION OF GOD INDWELLS US AS HIS WORDS.
If you think that that God endorsed your 40 day test of God, you have been sent strong delusions.James 1:21 Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls.
g1721. ἔμφυτος emphutos, em´-foo-tos; from 1722 and a derivative of 5453 [blow]; implanted (figuratively): — engrafted.
James 1:22 But be ye doers of the WORD [Logos, Reglative Principle, outlaws rhetoric, music or scenic performance]
, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.
James 1:23 For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a glass:
James 1:24 For he beholdeth himself, and goeth his way, and straightway forgetteth what manner of man he was.
James 1:25 But whoso looketh into the PERFECT LAW OF LIBERTY and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.
James 1:26 If any man among you seem to be religious,
and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man’s religion is vain.
James 1:27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this,
To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.
1Cor. 13:10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.
PROPHESYING WAS REVELATION FROM GOD.
THERE ARE NO SUCH INSPIRED PEOPLE TODAY.1Cor. 14:30 If any thing be REVEALED to another that sitteth by,
let the first hold his peace.
1Cor. 14:31 For ye may all prophesy one by one,
THAT ALL MIGHT LEARN
and all may be comforted.
1Cor. 14:32 And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets.
1Cor. 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion,
but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
THEREFORE:
1Cor. 14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches:
for it is not permitted unto them to speak;
but they are commanded to be under obedience,
as also saith the law.
1Cor. 14:35 And if they will LEARN any thing,
let them ask their husbands at home:
for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
THE ISSUE WAS LEARNING THE WORD: WHY WOULD ANYONE THINK THAT THEIR ADVANCED CULTURE AND LEARNING WOUL ABROGATE THE DIRECT COMMANDS OF GOD.
Husbands would have attended Synagogue school beginning at age 5,.
The Synagoge PATTERN was preaching by reading the word.
If the wife wasn't listening, let her challenge her husban at home because most would have UNERSTOOD the READ text.
BECAUSE EVEN TODAY
1Cor. 14:36 WHAT? came the word of God out from you?
or came it unto you only
1Cor. 14:37 If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual,
let him ACKNOWLEDGE that the
things that I write unto you
are the commandments of the Lord.
1Cor. 14:38 But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant.
CHRIST ORDAINED ELDERS AS FEEDERS OF THE FLOCK: SHOCKED INTO SILENCE.
1Pet. 5:1The elders which are among you I exhort, who am also an elder,
and a witness of the sufferings of Christ,
and also a partaker of the glory that shall be revealed:
1Pet. 5:2 FEED the flock of God which is among you,
taking the oversight thereof, not by constraint, but willingly;
NOT FOR FILTHY LUCRE , but of a ready mind
mēde aiskhrokerdōs alla prothumō;
Aiskhro-kerdēs greedy for gain.
A ] voluntary, “ponoi” orced, constrained, Hdt.6.58; “a. strateuontes” Th.7.58, cf. 8.24; “a. trophē” Aristid.Or.47 (23).59. Adv. “-tōs” Pl.Ax.366a; opp. hekousiōs, 1 Ep.Pet.5.2.
pon-eō , poneomai , ophelen poneesthai lissomenos he ought to suffer toil in praying
II. c. acc., work hard at, make or do with pains or care,
b. Pass., to be trained or educated,
MESSIAH
OVERSIGHT: prō-vĭdĕo , 2. To see to, look after, care for, give attention to; to prepare or provide for any thing: care for; to provide, make preparation or provision for any thing
Latin:
1Pet. 5:2 FEED the flock of God which is among you,
taking the oversight thereof, not by constraint, but willingly;
NOT FOR FILTHY LUCRE , but of a ready mind
mēde aiskhrokerdōs alla prothumō;
prothu_mos
“ego hic pascor bibliothecā Fausti,” id. Att. 4, 10, 1:
turpis lucri gratia sed voluntariepoimn-ion II. metaph. of disciples, Ev.Luc.12.32, al.; “p. Theou” 1 Ep.Pet.5.2.
Luke 12:[32] Don't be afraid, little flock, for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the Kingdom.
pŭsillus “vox,” small, thin, weak, very little, a trifle, paltry “res (opp. grandes)
mikros petty, trivial, slight Opposite “megas,
Soph OT [750] Did he go with a small force, or like a chieftain, with many armed followers?
“manthanein”
Hom. uses only the Ep. aor. forms mathon, emmathes, emmathe:—learn, esp. by study (but also, by practice, Simon.147, Arist.EN1103a32,
Matt. 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach [ma^thēt-euō] ,all nations,
baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
ma^thēt-euō ,II. trans., make a disciple of, instruct, “panta ta ethnē” Ev.Matt.28.19, cf. Act.Ap.14.21:—Pass., Ev.Matt.13.52.Matt. 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things
whatsoever I have commanded you:
and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen
Plat. Lach. 201b to go to school at our time of life, I
think we should appeal to Homer,
who said that ““shame is no good mate for a needy man.””Hom. Od. 17.347
So let us not mind what anyone may say,
but join together in arranging for our own and the boys' tuition. Lysimachus
I gladly approve of your suggestions, Socrates; and as I am the oldest,
so I am the most eager to have lessons with the young ones.
Now this is what I ask you to do:
NOT FOR FILTHY LUCER turpis lucri
FILTHY TURPIS of sound, disagreeable, cacophonous: “si etiam abfugit turpe visum est,” Cic. Or. 47, 158.
unseemly, shameful, Of the world, corresp. to the Gr. kosmos, “eloquenti
LUCER lū^crum lucro est, it is profitable, advantageous, A. Love of gain, avarice:
B. Wealth, riches: “omne lucrum tenebris alta premebat humus,”
BUT OF A WILLING MIND WITHOUT MONEY
turpis lucri gratia sed voluntarie
GRATUITUS adj. GRATIA done without pay, not for reward, free, spontaneous, voluntary, gratuitous : iiberalitas: amicitia: suffragia: spontaneous , L.: crudelitas, unprovoked , L.: praeterita parricidia, in vain , L.
gratia, done without pay, not for reward, free, spontaneous, voluntary, gratuitous : iiberalitas: amicitia: suffragia: furor, spontaneous , L.: crudelitas, unprovoked , L.: praeterita parricidia, in vain , L
grātĭa favor, esteem, regard, liking, love, friendship, partiality “gratis dare alicui (OPPOSITE. pretium accipere ab aliquo), Opp. for payment:
(OPPOSITE pretium pretium a price, money value, value in exchange
grātiīs adv. abl plur. of gratia, without reward, for nothing, gratis : si non pretio, gratiis,
GOD SENT JESUS TO EXECUTE FIREY JUDGEMENT ON USURPERS
Is. 4:2 In that day shall the branch of the LORD be beautiful and glorious, and the fruit of the earth shall be excellent and comely for them that are escaped of Israel.
Is. 4:3 And it shall come to pass, that he that is left in Zion, and he that remaineth in Jerusalem, shall be called holy, even every one that is written among the living in Jerusalem:
Is. 4:4 When the Lord shall have washed away the filth of the daughters of Zion, and shall have purged the blood of Jerusalem from the midst thereof by the spirit of judgment, and by the spirit of burning
ISAIAH 3 WARNS THAT HE WILL PURGE FEMININE BLOOD
I am told that Gnostic WOMEN slip menstrual blood into the wine.
Isaiah 3 warns that women and BOYS will rule over you: boys are effeminate or womanish.
Isaiah 4:1 AND in that day seven women shall take hold of one man, saying, We will eat our own bread, and wear our own apparel; only let us be called by thy name, to take away our reproach.
The Spirit OF Christ is describing the evil condition which existed at the First and Last Advent.
mŭlĭer, I. Transf., as a term of reproach, a woman, i. e. a coward, poltroon: “non me arbitratur militem, sed mulierem,” Plaut. Bacch. 4, 8, 4. always speaking,
Isaiah 4: 2 In that day shall the branch of the Lord be beautiful and glorious,
and the fruit of the earth shall be excellent and comely
for them that are escaped [remnant] of Israel.
germen , to conceive; garbh-as, child; whence, brephos (for grephos), germanus, perh. gremium, I. [select] a sprig, offshoot, sprout, bud
B. Transf.: “cara maris,” i. e. precious stones,: “frontis,” i. e. a horn,
Isaiah 4: 3 And it shall come to pass,
that he that is left in Zion, and he that remaineth in Jerusalem,
shall be called holy,
even every one that is written among the living in Jerusalem:6918. qadowsh, kaw-doshe´; or qadosh, kaw-doshe´; from 6942; sacred (ceremonially or morally); (as noun) God (by eminence), an angel, a saint, a sanctuary:—holy (One), saint.
6942. qadash, kaw-dash´; a primitive root; to be (causatively, make, pronounce or observe as) clean (ceremonially or morally):—appoint, bid, consecrate, dedicate, defile, hallow, (be, keep) holy(-er, place), keep, prepare, proclaim, purify, sanctify(-ied one, self), x wholly.
Out of millions there were 120 disciples reserved as a remnant. Pagans women claimed that "moon blood" drove the men into some kind of distraction. Jesus ejected the Minstrel Women worshipers using a term meaning "like dung."
Isaiah 4: 4 When the Lord shall have washed away
the filth of the daughters of Zion,
and shall have purged the blood of Jerusalem
from the midst thereof
by the SPIRIT of judgment, and by the SPIRIT of burning.
And thou shalt pollute the plated idols,
and thou shalt grind to powder (like "melody" in Greek) the gilt ones,
and shalt scatter them as the water of a removed woman,
and thou shalt thrust them forth as dung. Isaiah 30:22 LXX
Wind, string and percussion are the SOUNDS of God driving His enemies into hell.
JESUS WAS SENT FOR A TINEY REMNANT AND SONS FROM GOD.
PROPHESYING DENIES THE FINISHED WORK OF CHRIST AND IS MADNESS.
This description is nevertheless of fantastic nature, the Dionysiac ecstasy means, above all, surpassing the human condition. The total deliverance is thus discovered, the freedom and spontaneity inaccessible in ordinary circumstances to human beings, can thus be obtained. These freedoms are to be seen as deliverance from prohibitions, rules, and conventions of an ethical and social order, which explains, in part, the mass adherence of women. But above all, the Dionysiac experience touched the deepest levels of human experience (Author: Michael Elaide, 1978).
There is a divine possession of the Bacchantes through the ecstasy of enthousiasmos (from the Greek enthusiazein, "to be inspired or possessed by a god"). By expressing the passions of the god, the Bacchantes perform a reenactment of an epiphany of Dionysus.
The communication with the god is thus assured through their actions as religious experiences. This undoubtedly reveals the originality of the Dionysiac religion.
The rites are of nonconventional nature. The Bacchantes are not only involved in enthousiasmos (as seen above), but also anthropophagy and mania ("madness"). To the surface there is a deep immersion in animal unconsciousness.
However the "madness" cannot be taken so lightly since we have here an ecstatic experience having the purpose to be "filled with the god" (entheos). In the Bacchae the reward of this experience is thus presented:
"... this is a god of prophecy. His worshippers,
For when the god enters the body of a man
like madmen, are endowed with mantic powers.
he fills him with the breath of prophecy." (295-300)
The mania takes violent forms, but the manifestations have to be seen as experiences of a kathartic nature. These experiences are for the evil to come out. In the Dionysiac cult there are also other known method of katharsis ("purification") applied to the body when clay and flour are used to rubbing the body after which the initiate pronounces the formula: "I have escaped from evil and found better."
It will be difficult to ascertain the eschatological meaning of the Dionysiac cult, mostly because of its secret character and ritual. The Bacchae does not say anything about immortality. Eliade's (1978) opinion is that the communion with the god, even of a temporary nature, has to have some consequences for the postmortem condition of the bacchos, and there is an eschatological meaning of at least certain orgiastic experiences. It can be said about the Dionysiac cult that the humans dared to cross the boundary with the divinity, therefore the human condition is overpassed although not as a permanent state
JOHN T. WILLIS SHE SHALL BE SAVED IN CHILDBEARING
John.T.Willis.She.Shall.be.Saved.in.Childbearing.html
Plat. Laws 792e so far as possible, the new-born babe.
For because of the force of habit,
it is in infancy that the whole character is most effectually determined.1
I should assert further—were it not that it would be taken as a jest—
that women with child, above all others, should be cared for during their years of pregnancy,
lest any of them should indulge in repeated and intense pleasures or pains,
instead of cultivating, during the whole of that period, a cheerful, bright and calm demeanor.Clinias
There is no need for you, Stranger, to ask Megillus
1 Cp. Aristot. Nic. Eth. 1103 a 17:hē de ēthikē(aretē)ex ethous periginetai, hothen kai tounoma eskhēke mikron paregklinon apo tou ethous(“ethical virtue is the result of habit, and its name 'ethical' is also derived from 'ethos' (habit)”).
Example of what is to be avoided by Pregnant women
Note 1 Aesch. PB 877 Io eleleu eleleu,
Oh! Oh! Alas! Once again convulsive pain and frenzy, striking my brain, inflame me. I am stung by the gadfly's barb, [880] unforged by fire. My heart knocks at my ribs in terror; my eyeballs roll wildly round and round. I am carried out of my course by a fierce blast of madness; I've lost all mastery over my tongue, [885] and a stream of turbid words beats recklessly against the billows of dark destruction.Exit
hēdonē , Dor. hadona shall I speak truly or so as to humour you3. Pl., desires after pleasure, pleasant lusts, X.Mem.1.2.23, Ep.Tit.3.3, al. “meth' hēdonēs”Referenced by Laws 792: Aristot. Nic. Eth. 1103a.14 Book 2
1. Virtue being, as we have seen, of two kinds, intellectual and moral,
intellectual virtue is for the most part both produced and increased by instruction,
and therefore requires experience and time;
whereas moral or ethical virtue is the product of habit(ethos : tradition),
and has indeed derived its name, with a slight variation of form, from that word.1 1.
[2] And therefore it is clear that none of the moral virtues formed
is engendered in us by nature,
Note 1 It is probable that ethos, ‘habit’ and ēthos, ‘character’ (whence ‘ethical,’ moral) are kindred words.
Repeated and Intense pleasures, as noted above, are created by the WISE or SOPHISTS (from whom God hides, says Jesus.). A Sophist is a skilled speaker, singer or instrument player LYING IN WAIT TO DECEIVE. These were knoted as Margites or margos: MAD men, greated and lustful. Jesus consigned them to the marketplace where they did ANYTHING for their food to keep from working:
Livy on the Bacchanalibus in Rome (Wineskinners) Many of their audacious deeds were brought about by treachery, but most of them by force; it served to conceal the violence, that, on account of the loud shouting, and the noise of drums and cymbals, none of the cries uttered by the persons suffering violence or murder could be heard abroad
All such religious craftsmen (Rev 18) are called sorcerers and PARASITES. Paul outlawed self pleasure by such men: Areskos or Placeo including all of the Performing arts and craft.
(Lactantius, The Divine Institutes, Ante-Nicene Fathers, VII, p. 188
"But we have already spoken of spectacles:
there remains one thing which is to be overcome by us,
that we be not captivated by those things which penetrate to the innermost perception.
(emotions only)
For all those things which are unconnected with words, (just speaking in tongues)
that is, pleasant sounds of the air and of strings,
may be easily disregarded, because they do not adhere to us, and cannot be written...
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