The Tulsa Workshop 2010
If no one had already noticed, Wade Hodges confesses that the Tulsa Worshop is about "unity" with the NACC. Unity is a fine thing but the role of the individual is UNITY in Christ based on His Word. Unity with the use of instruments or "machines for doing hard work mostly making war or in creating the shock and awe of religious spectacle" is defined as unity with the WORLD.
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7.12.11
Review of Truitt Adair's review of Rick Atchley. Preachers are shooting blanks and keeping their career path safe as long as they agree that Amos (by the Spirit of Christ) condemned only their "attitude." And as long as they say that God commanded anything in the cursed king, kingdom, temple, sacrificial system at which they made exorcism noises never called music. The church is built upon the Prophets and Apostles all who radically condemn the the Civil-Military-Clergy complex as robbers, parasites and hypocrites (defined as speakers, singer and instrument players). There is NO historic scholar who did not agree that Amos was condemning the use of instruments in Samaria.
When Ahaz took the sacrifices and noise (never music) outside of Jerusalem he violated God's law which quarantined the horrors behind closed doors . If you become a Levite singer outside of the Temple in Jerusalem the PATTERN is that God will send a plague upon you.
I have radically updated my review of Terry Rush's against the Bible based churches.
Logos versus Mythos: Word versus Music Logos (modern) is rational of the word and STRAIGHT: Mythos and Sophia (postmodern) are irrational and Gender-Confused. Mythos Nomoi (traditional law)
(a) Eros is approved, and its excesses condoned, when directed towards superior youths approaching manhood.
(b) It appears to be condemned, in so far as parents forbid their boys to hold converse with “erastae.” The explanation of this ambiguous attitude must be sought in the principle laid down above, that the moral quality of an act depends upon the conditions of its performance.
GRACE is Kharizo 2. gratify or indulge a humour or passion, 3. in erotic sense, grant favours to a man,
give up as a favour by dropping a law aimed at him,
Grace Centered Magazine: 3.06.11. This forum has a Church of Christ thread dedicated to abusing those who do not deliberately reject the clear teaching of the Word and recorded history. A common lie is that the Church Fathers had nothing bad to say about the use of instruments based on Scripture. We have refuted that to prove that NO ONE used instruments in the churches but refute the Jews who did because they had been abandoned to Canaanite Baalism or the worship of the starry host.
See Jay Guin Review for the list of New Wineskins papers.
Never trust anyone who gets paid to tell you that the Bible commands worship with instruments at any time or place in the whole Bible. Sure, but God had turned the Israelites over to worship the starry host. Therefore, if someone has A spirit tell him that HE is commanded to impose instruments knowing that he will sow discord and steal the church house of happiness of the owners DO NOT GO THERE.
The scholarly process of lifting isolated verses or phrase misses the point that much of the Bible is written in forms of parallelism: this is the accepted method of teaching:
For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. Galatians 3:26The same is true in all of the "music" passages which repudiate music when you speak the WORD of God.
For (to make it perfectly clear) as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ Galatians 3:27
-LOGOS or rational discord of God:See The Tulsa Workshop 2011 where Edwarde Fudge rejoicing that the "worm has turned" and it has become the stalking horse for UNITY with the NACC. He seems surprised and maybe happy that the "busses have ceased coming" and the diverted workshop can become what it has been based on those invited.
-Lego Count, recount, tell over, say, speak, 8. at the beginning of letters or documents, maintain as a thesis, Sophron of sound mind. having control over the sensual desires, temperate, self-controlled, chaste, reasonable comparison. , esp. in the theatre,Opposite perception, epagōgēs
epagōg-ē , 2. bringing in to one's aid, introductionOpposite perception,
b. incantation, spell, in pl., Pl.R.364c, Lg.933d; Hekatēs phaskōn epagōgēn gegonenai saying that Hecate had put it under a spell, Thphr.Char.16.7.
7. leading away into captivity, captivity, LXX Is.14.17: generally, distress, misery, ib.Si.23.14
Plat. Rep. 364c any misdeed of a man or his ancestors, and that if a man wishes to harm an enemy, at slight cost he will be enabled to injure just and unjust alike, since they are masters of spells and enchantments1 that constrain the gods to serve their end. And for all these sayings they cite the poets as witnesses, with regard to the ease and plentifulness of vice, quoting:“ Evil-doing in plenty a man shall find for the seeking;1 In Laws 933 D both are used of the victim with epōdais, which primarily applies to the god. Cf. Lucan, Phars. vi. 492 and 527.
-Plato, Theaetetus 189eIn Logic, of discursive reasoning, OPPOSITE intuition
Socrates Excellent. And do you define thought as I do?Theaetetus
How do you define it?
Socrates As the talk which the soul has with itself about any subjects which it considers. You must not suppose that I know this that I am declaring to you. But the soul, as the image presents itself to me, when it thinks, is merely conversing with itself, asking itself questions and answering,
2. reason as a faculty,
V. continuous statement, narrative (whether fact or fiction), oration lego
Trut opposite myths, poems
Without Prooimion A. opening, introduction; in Music, prelude, overture, Pi.P.1.4; in poems, proëm, preamble, Pind. P. 1 Golden lyre, rightful4.speech, delivered in court, assembly
joint possession of Apollo [Abaddon, Apollyon]
and the violet-haired Muses, [Filthy shepherds, sorcerers Rev 18]
VI. verbal expression or utterance, lego, lexis
-Lexis A.speech, OPPOSITE ôidê
-ôidê, 1.art of song 5. = eppsdê, spell, incantation
4. text of an author, OPPOSITE exegesis [Peter's private interpretation outlaws exegesis]
Arist.En1142a26
See also our notes on Exodus 32: the rising up to PLAY was musical idolatry on the day God gave for the working classes to REST and be instructed in the Word of God. This is a PATTERNISM of all falls from grace.
1.04.11 When people speak out of their own imagination instead of the Word as Spirit by Christ in the Prophets and Apostles, Christ calls it blasphemy. Of Hezekiah's Plague stopping exorcism used to say that "God commanded instrumental praise and we must not be disobedient" Christ calls them BLASPHEMERS.
See Christ defining Blasphemy of The Holy Spirit
Rev. 7.27.10For I spake NOT unto your fathers, nor commanded them
in the day that I brought them out of the land of Egypt,
concerning burnt offerings or sacrifices: Jeremiah 7:22
But this thing commanded I them, saying,
Obey my voice, and I will be your God, and ye shall be my people: (CENI)
and walk ye in all the ways that I have commanded you, (CENI)
that it may be well unto you. Jeremiah 7:23
Jer 23:17 They say still unto them that despise me,Despise tthe Word of God of God and using your own words is:
The Lord hath said, Ye shall have peace;
and they say unto every one that walketh
after the imagination of his own heart,
No evil shall come upon you. "You can SOW discord and steal from the owners"
Blasphēm-eō , pf.A. “beblasphēmēka” D.18.10:—speak profanely of sacred things, “eis theous” Pl.R.381e; offer rash prayers, Id.Alc.2.149c; b. kata tinosutter imprecations against, Aeschin.1.180.2. speak ill or to the prejudice of one, slander, “peri tēs emēs diatribēs” Isoc.15.2, cf. D.l.c., ib.82; “b. kata tinos” Isoc.12.65, cf. Arist.Fr.44; “hosa eis hēmas eblasphēmēsan” D.51.3; “b. tina” Babr.71.6, Ev.Luc.23.39, etc.: abs., Phld.Lib.p.8 O.:—Pass., to have evil spoken of one, “beblasphēmēmenous” Id.Vit.p.12 J., cf. 1 Ep.Cor.10.30.3. speak impiously or irreverently of God, blaspheme, “eis ton Kurion” LXX Da.3.29(96); “eis to pneuma to hagion” Ev.Marc.3.29; eis ta theia Vett. Val.58.12; “tous theous” Id.67.20: abs., LXX 2 Ma.10.34, al., Ev.Matt.9.3.
Psalm 2 prophesied of people who would want to CAST OF the bindings to Christ and His Word in order to chain them to themselves.Psalm 2:1 WHY do the heathen rage,
and the people imagine a vain thing?
Psalm 2:2 The kings of the earth set themselves,
and the rulers take counsel together,
against the Lord, and against his anointed, saying,
Psalm 2:3 Let us break their bands asunder,
and cast away their cords from us.
Rev 5.07.10
Rev 5.08.10
Click for Tulsa Workshop 2011 The theme will be "Unchained!" "If the Son makes you free, then are you free indeed!What is an AntiPat?
Our First Tulsa Workshop turned into another UNITY FORUM where you can unite with the instrumentalists if you endorse or use musical instruments.
The Laded Burden Jesus died to remove is specificially songs or music which repeats over and over and which "creates spiritual anxiety through religious ritual." The burden laders are defined as the doctors of the law who take away the key to knowledge. The ekklesia had pastor-teachers and the ONLY role from the Church of Christ in its wilderness model was to PREACH by READING that which is written. Anyone beyond that to perform pseudo-ministries is ENCHAINING people and ROBBING widows and orphans in tithes and orphans. Ezekiel would define as Workshops of Evil where pseudo prophets go to steal words one from another. Amos and the MARK of music is that people run all over the country looking for WATER of the Word and cannot find it. The Tulsa Workshop enchains and gives opportunity for parasites (sacrificial musicians) and heretics (priests who lifted them up to cut their throats opportunity to LEAVE the flock to the wolves.
An ANTI-patternist has many more pieces to their dress pattern and it costs about twice as much.Most people in the Christian Churches probably do not have any huge need for someone to affirm them: such affirmation may indeed be someone uppity.
THE PRAYER FOR UNITY INSISTS THAT YOU COME OUT OF THE WORLD MARKED BY MUSIC TO SILENCE THE VOICE OF THE LAMBS.Wade Hodges: "I’ve been asked a number of times what I hoped would come out of the reconciliation and unity celebrations that occurred at events like the Tulsa Workshop and NACC. I kept saying I hoped it would lead to some concrete demonstrations of unity beyond getting together for a worship assembly."
This is really about John 17 and the concept of "unity" among the small group Jesus called OUT of the World and into His kingdom which is within us. Therefore, one cannot see it, smell it or hear it very well. We will link to those promoting UNITY with the NACC at Tulsa but many have adopted the Nacc White Paper defending the use of instruments which is not about unity.
THE WORLD OR COSMOS IS DEFINED SPECIFICIALLY BY VAIN, EMPTY SONGS AND SPEECH.
Jesus does not CALL those OF the Adorning World ruled over by THINGS of the WORLD.
We will supply word definitions and links to literature where the words related to UNITY for those who are able to do deep research which by definition were outlawed for the "poets, rhetoricians and song writers" in ancient society.. None of these are "stretches" and we invite those still sowing of discord to decide whether you are of the WORLD or of the TRUTH: the truth being confined to the Words of Christ. You do not have to follow the links or read the material to see that the Bible MARKS musical instruments as sourced by Satan to prevent people FROM hearing the Word of Christ not corrupted (huckstered) or private interpreted or further expounding as the MARK of a false teacher.
The concept of corrupting the Word means "selling learning at retail" and also defines adultery. This is also the MARK of a false teacher Peter established as "private interpretation" meaning further expounding. The prophecies by Christ in Spirit and the prophecies made more perfect by Jesus as the Christ of God and validated to eye and ear witnesses is the sole resource for teaching that which is written or that which has been taught.
There are TWO major cases of God hating "worship" marked my musical instruments (Amos Chapter Five) (Isaiah Chapter Five) and sowing discord among brethren: these are unforgiveable sins. Furthermore, Christ in Isaiah 30 shows that "hell" was specificially prepared for those OF THE WORLD influenced by "Lucifer the singing and harp playing prostitute" in the Garden of Eden. The MARKS of sight and sound of God driving His enemies into hell are the same wind, string and percussion instruments as weapons of being held in punishment. Isaiah Chapter 30.
UNITY QUESTS ALWAYS REPUDIATE THE DIRECT COMMAND AND CLEAR INSTRUCTIONS OF JESUS.
Jesus prayed for unity among those who MUST separate from the WORLD which speaks directly to the music of Lucifer intended to silence the WORD of Christ. The eternal battle is between SOPHIA-ZOE and JEHOVAH-LOGOS. The persona of those devoted to Sophia-Zoe is NOT pretty because all rhetoric or theatrical performance is a giant outburst of the effeminate prophesied by Isaiah.
Jesus did't say "thou shalt not use music in thy worship" He just said this is proof that God is not speaking to or through you:
Matt. 11:25 At that time Jesus answered and said,
I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth,
because thou hast HID these things from the WISE and prudent,
and hast revealed them unto babes.If you are a sophist and want to use rhetoricians, singers and instrument players (Hypocrites) there is NO LAW against it. However, Jesus said that the Father is HIDING His Word from you. Isn't that self evident when the preacher makes up his own words and the singers violate the direct command and compose their own? In Romans 14 Paul outlawed doubtful disputations common to the marketplace with its diversities of pagan practices and selling of thing, from what he defined as the synagogue in Roromans 15. That means that whatever comes out of the human imagination is not a resource for the assembly. Peter included that which is left as an example (written) in 2 Peter 1 as the only way to exclude the false teacher.
1Pet. 4:11 If any man speak,That is the direct command to deny any human performer any glory and to give the glory to God: Music means "to make the lambs dumb before the slaughter." Music intends to silence the voice of the victim: it is sacred fiolence.
let him speak as the oracles of God; (His Words_
if any man minister,
let him do it as of the ability which God giveth:
that God in all things may be glorified through Jesus Christ,
to whom be praise and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
Sophistes A. master of one's craft, adept, expert, of diviners, Hdt.2.49; of poets, “meletan sophistais prosbalon” Pi.I.5(4).28, cf. Cratin.2; of musicians, “sophistēs . . parapaiōn khelun” with modal words added, “hoi s. tōn hierōn melōn”Pind. I. 5 I have come with the Graces for the sons of Lampon to this well-governed city. If Aegina turns her steps to the clear road of god-given deeds, then do not grudge [25] to mix for her in song a boast that is fitting recompense for toils. In heroic times, too, fine warriors gained fame, and they are celebrated with lyres and flutes in full-voiced harmonies for time beyond reckoning. Heroes who are honored by the grace of Zeus provide a theme for skilled poets:
A khelus is in fact "a god" because Hermes (false Logos) made the first harp or lyre out of a tortoise's shell. ALL pagans believed that their instruments WERE the gods or the homes of the gods.
Plato [596c] speaks of sophists as craftsman or poet as being able--like God--to creath all things including himself: [596d] all he needs to do is carry about a mirror and he can be the creator of lying wonders.
Sophos A. skilled in any handicraft or art, clever, mostly of poets and musicians, Pi.O.1.9, en kithara s. E.IT1238
OUTLAWED: Sophos
A. skilled in any handicraft or art, clever, mantis Id.Th.382 ; Margites Fr.2; but in this sense mostly of poets and musicians, en kitharaiMantikê [mainomai] ) madness, sphodra hêdonê katechousa
II. enthusiasm, inspired frenzy, m. Dionusou para E.Ba.305 ; apo Mousôn katokôchê te kai m. Pl.Phdr. 245a ; theia m.,OPPOSITE sôphrosunê anthrôpinê meaning having control over the sensual desires, temperate, self-controlled, moderate, chaste, sober,Logos. The ACT of speaking is logik-os , ê, on, ( [logos] ) the organs of speech
A. of or for speaking or speech, logikê, hê, speech,
OPPOSITE to mousikêThe phrase: Mousôn katokôchê Mousa I. the Muse, in pl. the Muses, goddesses of song, music, poetry, dancing, the drama, and all fine arts II. mousa, as appellat., music, song, Pind., -also eloquence, Eur.:--in pl. arts, accomplishments, Ar., Plat.
Defined as the Hypocrite arts above.
Melôid-ia, hê, singing, chanting, E.Rh.923, etc II. chant, choral song, melôidias poiêtês Pl.Lg.935e , cf. 812d; lullaby, ib.790e: generally, music, phthogg-os 2. of musical sounds, “lōtos phthoggon keladei” E.El.716 (lyr.); “luras” Pl.Lg.812d, etc., cf. “phthoggous alurous thrēnoumen”
Kat-Auleo A. charm by flute-playing, methuōn kai katauloumenos drinking wine to the strains of the flute, Pl.R.561c; k. pros khelōnidos psophon to be played to on the flute with lyre accompaniment,The phrase: Mousôn katokôchê katokôchê 1 [attic for katochê] a being possessed, possession (i. e. inspiration),
methuōn kai katauloumenos drinking wine to the strains of the flute, Pl.R.561c; k. pros khelōnidos psophon to be played to on the flute with lyre accompaniment,Matt. 11:26 Even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight.
Matt. 11:27 All things are
delivered unto me of my Father:
and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father;
neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son,
and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.
If the Son has not spoken through the prophets and apostles then there are NO OTHER THING which one needs or is authorized to teach in a public sense.PAUL REPEATS THE WARNING OF JESUSJohn 17:8 For I have given unto them the WORDS which thou gavest me;
..........and they have received them,
..........and have known surely that I came out from thee,
..........and they have BELIEVED that thou didst send me.John 17:9 I pray for THEM: I pray not for the WORLD
.......... but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine.John 17:10 And all mine are thine, and thine are mine; and I am glorified in them.
John 17:11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee.
.......... Holy Father, keep through thine OWN NAME
.......... those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.John 17:12 While I was with them in the world,
.......... I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept,
.......... and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition;
.......... that the scripture might be fulfilled.The triumph over in Psalm 41 means to "blow the trumpet and make a loud, rejoicing sound. However, the triumph was only momemtary and the Judas Bag (made of a spotted skin) would forever remain for the thieves to collect their wages]. Judas was that familiar friend and new wine and music are his marks.
This Judas bag is from the Greek and ALWAYS attached to the Flute Case:
Glosokomon (g1101) gloce-sok'-om-on; from 1100 (speaking in tongues) and the base of 2889; prop. a case to keep mouthpieces of wind-instruments in, i.e. (by extens.) a casket or (spec.) purse: - bag.
It is made up of two words:
1. Glossa (from Strong's g1100) means "speaking in tongues" especially an unacquired one.
2. Kosmos (g2889) means the "orderly arrangement" or the "adorning" world. this is derived from (g2864 or Komizo which means "to carry off."
Kosmos (g2889) kos'-mos; prob. from the base of 2865; orderly arrangement, i.e. decoration; by impl. the world (in a wide or narrow sense, includ. its inhab., lit. or fig. [mor.]): - adorning, worldJohn 17:13 And now COME I TO THEE;
.......... and these things I SPEAK in the WORLD
.......... that they might have my joy FULFILLED in themselves.John 17:14 I have given them
.......... THY WORD; and
.......... the world hath HATETH them,
.......... because they are not of the world,
.......... even as I am not of the world.
Eph 2:1 AND you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;
Eph 2:2 Wherein in time past YE walked
according to the course of this world,according to the prince of the power of the air,In 1 Corinthians 13 Paul uses the pagan religion and equates "speaking in an unknown language to playing a LIFELESS INSTRUMENT." He says that WE do not use CARNAL WEAPONS to fight against the principalities and powers in high place. If you are engage in a "love in" you simply do not know that you are either a pilgrim in a hostile world dominated by evil powers.
the SPIRIT that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
PRINCE Arkhon a. tou kosmou toutou, of Satan, Ev.Jo.16.11, al.
Kosmokrator lord of the world. A. lord of the world, epith. of ouranos, Orph.H.4.3; “Zeus Mitras Hēlios k.”
Helios II. as pr. n., Helios, the sun-god, Od.8.271, [“Hēlios doulous eleutherous poiei” identified with Apollo, with Dionysus, D.Chr.31.11, etc. 2. Hēliou astēr, of the planet Saturn, v.l. in Pl.Epin.987c, cf. D.S.2.30RULER of the kosmos, i.e. planet, “hoi hepta k.” hoi k. tou skotous toutou the cosmic rulers of this sinful world, Ep.Eph.6.12; “hoi k. hoi ta hupo selēnēn stoikheia dioikountes”
Because of musical idolatry at Mount Sinai God turned the Israelites over to worship the starry host. The Jewish Temple used by Rick Atchley as proof that the "spirit" told him to impose the same thimg is defined by the Jewish Encyclopedia and the Bible as devoted to Sabazianism whatever they called their "god."
Hom. Od. 8.250 [250] But come now, all ye that are the best dancers of the Phaeacians,
make sport, that the stranger may tell his friends on reaching home
how far we surpass others in seamanship and in fleetness of foot, and in the dance and in song.
Sport: Paizo. play like a child, play on a musical instrument, play amourously. Hung pleasureAnd let one go straightway [255] and fetch for Demodocus the clear-toned lyre which lies somewhere in our halls.” So spoke Alcinous the godlike, and the herald rose to fetch the hollow lyre from the palace of the king. Then stood up masters of the lists, nine in all, men chosen from out the people, who in their gatherings were wont to order all things aright. [260] They levelled a place for the dance, and marked out a fair wide ring, and the herald came near, bearing the clear-toned lyre for Demodocus.
This was the musical idolatry at Mount Sinai in Exodus 32.
2Pet. 2:9 The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:
2Pet. 2:10 But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness,
and despise government. Presumptuous are they, selfwilled,
they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities.
2Pet. 2:11 Whereas angels, which are greater in power and might,
bring not railing accusation against them before the Lord.
2Pet. 2:12 But these, as natural brute beasts,
made to be taken and destroyed,
speak evil of the things that they understand not;
and shall utterly perish in their own phthora
2Pet. 2:13 And shall receive the reward of unrighteousness,
Phtheirō entices to its ruin, entraps,
b. seduce a woman, “hupo tēs thugatros adikoumenon kai Dionusiou tou phtheirantos autēn kinaidou” PEnteux.26.11
Thugatēr metaph., Moisan thugateres, of Odes, Pi.N.4.3;
Mousa II. mousa, as Appellat., music, song, theias antiluron mousas” S.Tr.643S.Tr.643 Kanach-ê A. sharp sound; esp. ring or clang of metal, gnashing of teeth, sound of flutes, sounding brass.
as they that count it pleasure to riot in the day time.
Spots they are and blemishes,
sporting themselves with their own deceivings
while they feast with you;
2Pet. 2:14 Having eyes full of adultery,
and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls:
an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children:
2Pet. 2:15 Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray,
following the way of Balaam the son of Bosor,
who loved the wages of unrighteousness;
He then moved into the midst, and around him stood boys in the first bloom of youth, well skilled in the dance, and they smote the goodly dancing floor with their feet. And Odysseus [265] gazed at the twinklings of their feet and marvelled in spirit.
But the minstrel struck the chords in prelude to his sweet lay and sang of the love of Ares and Aphrodite of the fair crown, how first they lay together in the house of Hephaestus secretly; and Ares gave her many gifts, and shamed the bed [270] of the lord Hephaestus. But straightway one came to him with tidings, even Helius, who had marked them as they lay together in love.
And when Hephaestus heard the grievous tale, he went his way to his smithy,
pondering evil in the deep of his heart, and set on the anvil block the great anvil and forged bonds
[275] which might not be broken or loosed, that the lovers might bide fast where they were.
Bētarmōn , onos, o(,A. dancer, in pl., Od.8.250,383, Man.2.335:—later, as Adj., “kapnos” [smoke dancers] kapros ib.22.44. (bainō, arariskō.)
Poieo something made [by the works of man's hands] A. make, produce, first of something material, as manufactures, works of art.
4. after Hom., of Poets, compose, write, p. dithurambon, epea, Hdt.1.23, 4.14; “p. theogoniēn Hellēsi” Id.2.53; p. Phaidran, Saturous, Ar.Th.153, 157; p. kōmōdian, tragōdian, etc., Pl.Smp.223d; “palinōdian” Isoc.10.64,
Hdt. 1.23 Periander, who disclosed the oracle's answer to Thrasybulus, was the son of Cypselus, and sovereign of Corinth. The Corinthians say (and the Lesbians agree) that the most marvellous thing that happened to him in his life was the landing on Taenarus of Arion of Methymna, brought there by a dolphin. This Arion was a lyre-player second to none in that age; he was the first man whom we know to compose and name the dithyramb which he afterwards taught at Corinth.
The dithyramb was a kind of dance-music particularly associated with the cult of Dionysus.
Skotos of the netherworld Pi.Fr.130; “skoton nemontai Tartaron te” A.Eu.72,Selēn-ē tēn s. kathelein, of Thessalian witches, Ar.Nu.750, cf. Pl.Grg.513a, Sosiph. 1.II. as fem. pr. n., Selene, the goddess of the moon (never in Hom.), Hes.Th.371, h.Merc.100, etc. (selēnē (selana, selanna) fr. Selas-na_, cf. selas.)Mitra , ēs, h(, the Persian Aphrodite, Hdt.1.131 (by confusion with Mithras). Mithras , ou, o(, Mithras, X.Cyr.7.5.53, Str.15.3.13
Kathaireo 3. of sorcerers, bring down from the sky, “selēnēn” Ar.Nu.750, Pl.Grg.513a.
Strab. 15.3.13 The manners and customs of the Persians are the same as those of the Susians and the Medes, and many other people; and they have been described by several writers, yet I must mention what is suitable to my purpose.
The Persians do not erect statues nor altars, but, considering the heaven as Jupiter, sacrifice on a high place. They worship the sun also, whom they call Mithras, the moon, Venus [Lucifer, Zoe] , fire, earth, winds, and water. They sacrifice, having offered up prayers, in a place free from impurities, and present the victim crowned.
After the Magus, who directs the sacrifice, has divided the flesh, each goes away with his share, without setting apart any portion to the gods; for the god, they say, requires the soul of the victim, and nothing more. Nevertheless, according to some writers, they lay a small piece of the caul upon the fire.
Contrary to the unlawful king's Scribes, Christ in the prophets denies that sacrifices were commanded: that means that the commands used by Tulsa and the NACC are taken from the worship of the starry host.
Hos. 8:13 As for the sacrifices of mine offerings,COURSE, age, generation, one's life, Personified Khronos Aionios
they sacrifice flesh and eat it; but Jehovah accepteth them not:
now will he remember their iniquity, and visit their sins; they shall return to Egypt.
See also Strab. 15.3.14
Thelema
For whatever it means in this discussion, using "that which is written" is the direct command, approved examples, historic practice and necessary inference if you understand that ekklesia - synagogue is a school of the Bible and not a worship center. That's good because the Bible is not metrical was never "sung" tunefully nor congregationally until after the Reformation.
John 16:6 But because I have spoken these things unto you, sorrow hath filled your heart.
John 16:7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth:
It is expedient for you that I go away; for if I go not away,
the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I go, I will send him unto you.
The Holy Spirit as Comforter is Jesus Christ the Righteous. Jesus of Nazareth in Spirit had to be SEEN and HEARD by Paul to qualify him to speak FOR Jesus Christ. Those who claim the spirit told them to lie about instruments are hearing delusions which are marked by LYING WONDERS which speaks of the performing arts.
1John 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you that ye may not sin. And if any man sin, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:John 16:8 And he, when he is come, will convict the world in respect of sin,
1John 2:2 and he is the propitiation for our sins; and not for ours only, but also for the whole world.
and of righteousness, and of judgment:
John 16:9 of sin, because they believe not on me;
John 16:10 of righteousness, because I go to the Father, and ye behold me no more;
John 16:11 of judgment, because the prince of this world hath been judged.Aesch. Pers. 73 ChorusThe fiery lord of populous Asia [75] is leading his wondrous warrior-flock against the whole earth in two divisions, on foot and by the sea, putting his trust in his stalwart and stern commanders; he himself, [80] a god-like hero whose race is sprung from gold.
Note: The hero Perseus, here regarded as the ancestor of Xerxes, and in l. 146 as giving his name to the whole Persian race, was the son of Zeus, who descended to Danae in a shower of gold.
Zeus and Dionysus were the father and son as the Abomination of Desolation in the temple in Jerusalem. That is why Philip wanted to SEE the Father. See 2 Maccabees to see how homosexuality had pervaded the system in Jerusalem. These were the MEN Jesus called Children who piped hoping that others would sing or lament and dance the Dionysus initiation. Jesus consigned them to the marketplace with the other for sale items including songs and sermons.
POWER. abuse of authority, licence, arrogance, “hubris kai e. 3. Lit. Crit., e. poiētikē poetic licence, Str.1.2.17,
Hubris A. wanton violence, arising from the pride of strength or from passion, insolence 2. lust, lewdness, opposite sōphrosunē, [a sound mind]
Eulogy of Socrates: II. (In character) he resembles (b) the Satyr, being (1) a mocker, (2) a flute-player. As to (2) he excels Marsyas, since his words alone, without an instrument, fascinate all, old and young. Me he charms far more than even Pericles could, filling me with shame and selfcontempt, and driving me to my wit's end.
III. He resembles a the Sileni in the contrast between his exterior and interior. (a) Externally he adopts an erotic attitude towards beautiful youths: (b) but internally he despises beauty and wealth, as I know from experience. For I tried to bribe him with my beauty, but all my many attempts came to nothing. Private conversations, gymnastics together, a supper-party à deux, even a night on the same couch—all was of no use. Against my battery of charms he was armed (by his temperance) in “complete steel”; and I charge him now before you with the crime of hubris. His hardihood was shown in the Potidaea campaign, where none could stand the cold like him. His valour was displayed in the battle where he saved my life, and in the retreat from Delium. Especially amazing is his unique originality, which makes it impossible to find anyone else like him—except Satyrs and Sileni.
Poi-ētikos poetic, Music Mousikos professional musicians, delicate
NEVER TRUST RHETORICIANS, POETS OR MUSICIANS WITH FACTS
Strab. 1.2.17 If any thing does not correspond, it should be attributed to change, or to misconception, or to poetical licence, which is made up of history, rhetoric, and fiction.
Truth is the aim of the historical portion, as for instance in the Catalogue of Ships,
where the poet informs us of the peculiarities of each place,
that one is rocky, another the furthest city, that this abounds in doves. and that is maritime.
A lively interest is the end of the rhetorical, as when he points to us the combat; and of the fiction, pleasure and astonishment. A mere fabrication would neither be persuasive nor Homeric; and we know that his poem is generally considered a scientific treatise, notwithstanding what Eratosthenes may say,
when he bids us not to judge poems by the standard of intellect,
nor yet look to them for history.
OF THE AIR Aer 3. personified, “ō despot' anax amet rēt' A.” Ar.Nu.264; “A. hon an tis onomaseie kai Dia”
1Cor. 14:9 So likewise ye, except ye utter by the tongue words easy to be understood, how shall it be known what is spoken? for ye shall speak into the air.
Any Levite instrument player who went into the "holy spaces" with or without an instrument was to be instantly executed: only the abuse of power or arrogance would mark such presumption:
Despot-ēs owner of a master of slaves, taken captive, tyrant of the gods, dominant planet, Naos master of a shrine or temple: inmost part of a temple, shrine containing the image of the god.
Hdt. 1.183 In the Babylonian temple there is another shrine below, where there is a great golden image of Zeus, sitting at a great golden table, and the footstool and the chair are also gold; the gold of the whole was said by the Chaldeans to be eight hundred talents' weight. [2] Outside the temple is a golden altar. There is also another great altar, on which are sacrificed the full-grown of the flocks; only nurslings may be sacrificed on the golden altar, but on the greater altar the Chaldeans even offer a thousand talents' weight of frankincense yearly, when they keep the festival of this god;
Strep. By Jupiter! You will not deceive me; for if I am besprinkled, I shall become fine flour.
Soc. It becomes the old man to speak words of good omen, and to hearken to my prayer. O sovereign King, immeasurable Air, who keepest the earth suspended, and through bright Aether, and ye august goddesses, the Clouds, sending thunder and lightning, arise, appear in the air, O mistresses, to your deep thinker!
Strep. Not yet, not yet, till I wrap this around me lest I be wet through. To think of my having come from home without even a cap, unlucky man!
Soc. Come then, ye highly honoured Clouds, for a display to this man. Whether ye are sitting upon the sacred snow-covered summits of Olympus, or in the gardens of Father Ocean form a sacred dance with the Nymphs, or draw in golden pitchers the streams of the waters of the Nile, or inhabit the Maeotic lake, or the snowy rock of Mimas, hearken to our prayer, and receive the sacrifice, and be propitious to the sacred rites.
WORKS according to the prince of the power of the air,
the [unholy] SPIRIT that now worketh in the children of disobedience:They shout from the pulpits that they are not bound by the commands of God.
The only recorded evidence is that when Lucifer was cast out as profane he / she went into the garden of Eden with wind, string and percussion instruments. Christ identifies the king of Tyre as the personification of Lucifer the singing and harp playing prostitute. The Lucifer Principle is to infiltrate pulpits or "high places" and SUBSTITUTE self-composed sermons and songs even when the direct command it to teach "that which is written" or Scripture as Paul defines the synagogue in Romans 15.
Energeo To be in action, of troups, of making war, of sexual intercourse, erōt-ikos. of or caused by love, melos a love song. Pharmakon 3. enchanted potion, philtre: hence, charm, spell. Pharmakos A. poisoner, sorcerer, magician, LXXEx.7.11 (masc.), Ma.3.5 (fem.), Apoc.21.8, 22.15. Speakers, singers, instrument players and craftsmen are called sorcerers in Revelation 18:22-23
Rev. 21:7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
Rev. 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers,
and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake
which burneth with fire and brimstone:
which is the second death.Ergon 1. in Il. mostly of works or deeds of war, “polemēia e.” engaging in battle, an occupation, business, a machine,
Organon , to/, (ergon, erdō) A. instrument, implement, tool, for making or doing a thing, for making war, tackle
3. musical instrument, Simon.31, f.l. in A.Fr.57.1 ; ho men di' organōn ekēlei anthrōpous, of Marsyas, Pl.Smp.215c ; aneu organōn psilois logois ibid., cf. Plt.268b ; “o. polukhorda” Id.R.399c, al.; “met' ōdēs kai tinōn organōn” Phld.Mus.p.98K.; of the pipe, Jubal HANDLED them meaning WITHOUT AUTHORITY.Orgi-azô A. celebrate orgia, E.Ba.415 (lyr.), etc.: c. acc., o. teletên Pl.Phdr.250c ; hiera Id.Lg.910c ; thusias, pompas, choreias Plu.Num.8 : c. dat., pay ritual service to a god or goddess, tautêi Str.10.3.12 :--so in Med., orgiazesthai daimosi, orgia Mousôn
Orgi-aiôn, ta, secret rites, secret worship, practised by the initiated, of the rites of the Cabeiri and Demeter, of Orpheus, Aphrodite, of Cybele, most freq. of the rites of Dionysus .2.81, E.Ba.34, al., Theoc.26.13. II. generally, RITES, orgia Mousôn [Rev 18:22] Ar.Ra.356 . Aphroditês [ZOE]
Organ-ikos especially of war-engines, of speech which is brought to bear on the mob
of musicians, practical OPPOSITE. logikoi (theoretical),
Logikos of speech OPPOSITE mousikē, Plu.Cor.38:
logical, l. sullogismoi, OPPOSITE rhētorikoi, Rh.1355a13.
OPPOSITE Megaloprepes A. befitting a great man, magnificent, other than CHRIST.Plut. Cor. 38 [2] It is possible also that statues may emit a noise like a moan or a groan, by reason of a fracture or a rupture, which is more violent if it takes place in the interior. But that articulate speech, and language so clear and abundant and precise, should proceed from a lifeless thing, is altogether impossible; since not even the soul of man, or the Deity, without a body duly organized and fitted with vocal parts, has ever spoken and conversed.
Paul warned that lifeless instruments cannot communicate and WE do not fight the principalities and powers with carnal weapons which also means CARNAL INSTRUMENTS.
Children of Disobedience
[Apitheo - Apistos] disobeyed the command to be baptized, failed to persuade
Disobeyed the AGGELIA ]Rom. 6:16 Know ye not, that to whom ye present yourselves as servants unto obedience, his servants ye are whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?For those at Tulsa who had the "spirit" tell them that the instrumental curse of the worship of the starry host in burning the goats (cappella) was now GOD'S COMMAND to add instrumental praise and we had better not disobey, Jesus and all recorded history and mental hospitals prove that NO MAN hears the Word of God unless the Son has revealed them:
Rom. 6:17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin,
but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.
Rom. 6:18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.
John 3:32 What he hath seen and heard, of that he beareth witness;Eph 2:3 Among whom also WE all had OUR conversation in times past
and no man receiveth his witness.
John 3:33 He that hath received his witness hath set his seal to this, that God is true.
John 3:34 For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God:
for he giveth not the Spirit by measure. [metron]
John 3:35 The Father loveth the Son,
and hath given all things into his hand
The word SPEAK is specificially defined as communication and is the OPPOSITE of poetry or music.
[When we dwell in a place, engage ourselves upon]
in the lusts of OUR flesh, fulfilling the DESIRES of the flesh and of the mind;
and were by nature the children [produced by] of wrath, even as others.
Conversion is Anastrepho, —turn upside down, invert order of words or statements, go aboutin public
Lust Epithumia passion, sexual desire,
fulfilling OUR will.
Children, teknon young animals in PLAY
Matt. 11:16 But whereunto shall I liken this generation?
It is like unto children sitting in the marketplaces, who call unto their fellows
Matt. 11:17 and say, We PIPED unto you, and ye did not DANCE; we wailed, and ye did not mourn.
WRATH Orge I. natural impulse or propension: one's temper, temperament, disposition, orgê , hê, II. passion, anger, wrath, 3. Panos orgai panic fears (i. e. terrors sent by Pan), Eur.:--but, orgê tinos anger against a person or at a thing, Soph.; hierôn orgas wrath at or because of the rites, Aesch.
Orgi-aiôn, ta, secret rites, secret worship, practised by the initiated, of the rites of the Cabeiri and Demeter, of Orpheus, Aphrodite, of Cybele, most freq. of the rites of Dionysus .2.81, E.Ba.34, al., Theoc.26.13. II. generally, RITES, orgia Mousôn [Rev 18:22] Ar.Ra.356 . Aphroditês [ZOE]
Erôt-ikos A.of or caused by love, orgê
See Strabo 10.3.7
"The 'sounding gong and tinkling cymbal' used in such worship are mentioned in a derogatory sense in 1 Corinthians 13:1; but the religious outcry itself is dealt with more directly. It is essential that we understand that much of the shouting involved in the rite was the specific function of women. Euripides describes the advent of Dionysiac religion to Thebes thus: 'This city, first in Hellas, now shrills and echoes to my women's cries, their ecstasy of joy'
Aristophanes, Frogs chorusJohn 17:6 I have manifested thy name unto the men
Let him be mute and stand aside from our sacred dances
who has no experience of mystical language, or has not cleansed his mind
Who never has seen and never has danced in the rites of the noble Muses
Nor ever has been inducted into the Bacchic mysteries of beef-eating Cratinus...
Or any politician who bites off the pay of the poets
For being ridiculed in the ancestral rites of Dionysus.
All these I warn, and twice I warn, and thrice I warn again,
stand aside from our mystical dances; but as for you: arouse the song
and the night-long dances, that belong to our festival here.
which thou gavest me out of the world:
thine they were, and thou gavest them me;
and they have kept thy WORD.
This is the MARK: those God has given to Christ OUR of the World KEEP GOD'S WORD. They can never look for the law of silence as a legalistic loop hole saying "God hath not said 'thou shalt NOT play an instrument in they church' so we gonna do it spite of hell."
The Great Commission narrowly defines the role of a disciple: to be taught what Christ taught in the prophets and prophecies made more certain. You don't need any further warning NOT to teach what is NOT the Word of Christ. Being faithful is based on KEEPING the Word of God. Theree is no space or time for human opinions.
There were always TWO SPACES defined by Moses so that the Israelites who were sentenced back to Babylonia because of musical idolatry at Mount Sinai. Moses reminded them of the TWO SPACES they would have learned from their place of origin and enforced by the Israelites false worship in Egypt for 430 years. The ruler of the WORLD or Kosmokrator or Satan invated the Spiritual Space as the "singing and harp playing prostitute" in the garden of Eden. The Adams were cast out into the time-space first called the Cosmos by Pythagoras who learned the Greek and modern "worship" from both Babylon and Egypt. You can never doubt this because we know what the Israelites did in Egypt, at Mount Sinai and we know what Paul, John and Peter knew as they gave direct commands to keep us from walking IN THE WORLD.
The Name of the Holy Spirit OF Christ is naturally "Jesus Christ the Righteous." Why would Tulsa build on the foundation of people who have a "spirit" tell them to REPRODUCE the Curse imposed BECAUSE of musical idolatry?
Because Jesus said MY WORDS are SPIRIT we can conclude that Spirit does not speak in METER as the word means.
Khronos Time, a definite period otherwiseIN THE WORLD OF RELIGION THE "WORLD", LIKE WORD, FAITH OR GRACE IS PERSONIFIED.
3. in Rhythmic and Music, time, “diaireitai ho kh. hupo tōn rhuthmizomenōn” Aristox.Rhyth.p.79 W., etc.; ho prōtos kh.] time-unit, khronos kenos
kenos [pause i music, empty, witless pretentious]., “lexis eis khronous tetheisa diapherontas” Aristox.Rhyth.p.77 W., cf. Anon.Rhythm.Oxy. 9ii6; [“metra prokhōrei heōs l khronōn” “kenea pneusais” Pi.O.10(11).93;
Chronos: In the Orphic cosmogony the unageing Chronos produced Aither and Chaos, and made a silvery egg in the divine Aither. It produced the bisexual god Phanes, who gave birth to the first generation of gods and is the ultimate creator of the cosmos. Space-TimePind. O. 10 [75] The lovely light of the moon's beautiful face lit up the evening and in the delightful festivities the whole precinct rang with a song in praise of victory.thunder [80] and the fire-wrought shaft of Zeus who rouses the thunder-clap, the burning bolt that suits omnipotence. Swelling music will answer the reed-pipe in songs [85] which have come to light beside famous Dirce, after a long time, but like a long-desired child from the wife of a man who has already reached the opposite of youth, who fills his father's mind with the warmth of love; since his wealth falling into the hands of a stranger who is master of another home [90] is the most hateful thing to a dying man. And, Hagesidamus, when a man with fine achievements but no songs reaches the house of Hades, he has spent his strength and his breath in vain and gained only a short-lived delight with his effort. But on you the soft-singing lyre and the sweet flute scatter grace [95] and the Pierian daughters of Zeus nurture your wide fameMetron II. metre, Ar.Nu.638, 641, etc.; opp. melos (music) and rhuthmos (time), Pl.Grg.502c, etc.; logous psilous eis metra tithentes putting into verse, Id.Lg.669d; “ta en metrō pepoiēmena epē” X.Mem. 1.2.21.
Even now we will follow the first beginnings, and as a namesake song of proud victory [Nike], we will shout of the
If you walked in the paths of the WORLD and that was according to the prince of the power of the air, then to seek unity without understanding the fundamentals of the Bible is dangerous and a laughingstock.
G2889 kosmos kos'-mos Probably from the base of G2865 ; orderly arrangement, that is, decoration; by implication the world (in a wide or narrow sense, including its inhabitants, literally or figuratively [morally]):—adorning, world.
Pythagoras is said to have been the first philosopher to apply the term cosmos to the Universe, perhaps from application to the starry firmament.
Now Iamblichus (De Mysteries, III.ix) goes into the matter of the so-called Corybantic and Bacchic 'frenzies' produced by musical instruments in the Mysteries of Ceres and Bacchus; and in his Life of Pythagoras (xxv) he, further, tells us that:
"Farther still, the whole Pythagoric school produced by certain appropriate songs, what they called exartysis, or adaptation; synarmoge, or elegance of manners; and epaphe, or contact, usefully conducting the dispositions of the soul to passions contrary to those which it before possessed.
And sometimes by means of melodies without words they cured certain affections and diseases, and this they said was the real means of "charming". And it is most probable that the word "charm" (epode) came into general use from them. It was thus, then, that Pythagoras established a most salutary system of regenerating the morals by means of "music"
[Mantravidyâ].' (Op. cit. Kiessling's text, pp. 245, 246; see also Taylor, Iamblichus on the Mysteries, 2nd ed., pp. 130, 131, n.) (THE ORPHIC THEOGONY)
You will remember that Stephen identified the musical idolatry at Mount Sinai as the sin for which God abandoned Israel "to worship the starry host."
Cosmos: In theology, the term can be used to denote the created Universe, not including the creator. The Septuagint uses both kosmos and oikumene for the inhabited world. In Christian theology, the word was also used synonymously with aion to refer to "worldly life" or "this world" as opposed to the afterlife.Music, Apollo taught divination and prophecy. It is common to hear the term "music of the spheres" and read of Pythagoras and his school, who laid the foundations of our knowledge of the study of harmonics—how strings and columns of air vibrate, how they produce overtones, how the overtones are related arithmetically to one another, etc.
Apollo Divination Lucian Prophecy
The cosmos as originated by Pythagoras is parallel to the Zoroastrian term aša, the concept of a divine order, or divinely ordered creation.
Eur. Heraclid. 892RICK ATCKLEY: NOT IN CHURCH
Chorus
In my eyes dancing is a pleasant thing and the high-pitched beauty of the flute at a feast. Aphrodite may also give pleasure. [895] But it seems it is also a source of joy to see the prosperity of friends who before were not esteemed. Fate that gives completion and Life, time's child, [900] bring many things to pass.
Luke 15:24 For this my son was dead, and is alive again; he was lost, and is found.
And they began to be merry.
Luke 15:25 Now his elder son was in the field:
and as he came and drew nigh to the house,
he heard musick and dancing.[
NOT IN CHURCH
Sumphonia the only time MUSIC is used in the New Testament 3. harmonious union of many voices or sounds, concert, hoi tōn s. logoi, the Pythag. doctrine of the music of the spheres
Dan 3.[4] Then the herald cried aloud, To you it is commanded, peoples, nations, and languages,[5] that whenever you hear the sound of the horn, flute, zither, lyre, harp, pipe, and all kinds of music, you fall down and worship the golden image that Nebuchadnezzar the king has set up;[6] and whoever doesn't fall down and worships shall the same hour be cast into the midst of a burning fiery furnace.[7] Therefore at that time, when all the peoples heard the sound of the horn, flute, zither, lyre, harp, pipe, and all kinds of music, all the peoples, the nations, and the languages, fell down and worshiped the golden image that Nebuchadnezzar the king had set up. [/color]
HOWEVER GODLY PEOLE WILL NOT DO THAT
[8] Therefore at that time certain Chaldeans came near, and brought accusation against the Jews.[9] They answered Nebuchadnezzar the king, O king, live for ever.[10] You, O king, have made a decree, that every man that shall hear the sound of the horn, flute, zither, lyre, harp, pipe, and all kinds of music,[11] and whoever doesn't fall down and worships, shall be cast into the midst of a burning fiery furnace shall fall down and worship the golden image;
World Kosmos ornaments especially of women, ornaments of speech, such as epithets.Isoc. 9 9 Id.9.9 (pl.), [9] since they can represent the gods as associating with men, conversing with and aiding in battle whomsoever they please, and they can treat of these subjects not only in conventional expressions, but in words now exotic, now newly coined, and now in figures of speech, neglecting none, but using every kind with which to embroider their poesy Aristot. Poet. 1457b
In Gnosticism, Zoe (Lucifer) is called the BEAST and female instructing principle. Lucifer is called the singing and harp-playing prostitute in the garden of Eden. ZOE can mean beast but in Revelation the BEAST is a hunter or huntress like Nimrod in an erotic sense.
John 17:7 Now they have known that all things whatsoever thou hast given me are OF THEETherefore, one meaning of the BEAST Thêrion III. as a term of reproach, beast, creature, hê mousikê aei ti kainon thêrion tiktei
A new style of music or drama
A. mousikos
B. aei always
C. kainos , esp. of new dramas, the representation of the new tragedies, (Aphrodisias dedicated to Aphrodite (ZOE); comedy, sexual love, pleasure, a woman's form of oath, Aster or Venus or ZOE.
Therion
D. Tikto mostly of the mother
E. of Rhea one of the zoogonic or vivific principles
Poik-illo cunning craftsmanship II. of style, embellish, adorn, “baia p.” Pi.P.9.77; tell with art and elegance 2. metaph., speak equivocally, mince matters,
Pi.P.9.77 Great excellence can always inspire many stories; but to embroider a short account from a lengthy theme is what wise men love to hear.
Hp. Morb. Sacr. 1 It is thus with regard to the disease called Sacred: it appears to me to be nowise more divine nor more sacred than other diseases, but has a natural cause from the originates like other affections. Men regard its nature and cause as divine from ignorance and wonder, because it is not at all like to other diseases. And this notion of its divinity is kept up by their inability to comprehend it, and the simplicity of the mode by which it is cured, for men are freed from it by purifications and incantations. But if it is reckoned divine because it is wonderful, instead of one there are many diseases which would be sacred Thaummasios lying wonder
Plat. Menex. 235a [235a] and the variety and splendor of their diction, they bewitch our souls; and they eulogize the State in every possible fashion, and they praise those who died in the war and all our ancestors of former times and ourselves who are living still; so that I myself, Menexenus, when thus praised by them feel mightily ennobled, and every time I listen fascinated I am exalted and imagine myself to have become all at once taller and nobler
Harmonia IV. in Music, stringing, “ha. toxou kai luras” Heraclit.51, cf. Pl.Smp.187a: hence, method of stringing, musical scale 2. generally, music, “autō de tō rhuthmō mimountai khōris ha.” sumphōnein” Pl.R.617b; “hepta khordai hē ha.” Arist. Metaph.1093a14,
Poieo Is something you make especially in meter. Writing your own songs or rhetoric, 77; of imaginative constructions
There is no way that you can associate MUSIC with a Spirit God without presuming to DO HARD WORK to appease the god or "pleasure" the lambs to make them easier to fleece.
John 17:8 For I have given unto them the WORDS which thou gavest me;
..........and they have received them,
..........and have known surely that I came out from thee,
..........and they have BELIEVED that thou didst send me.
THE EVIL WORLD BELONGS TO SATAN: HIS PREACHERS FILL THE WORLD. THEY ARE FALSE SEED
Jesus spoke to the multitudes in parables because the truth had been hidden from the foundation of the world.
Jesus called these Scribes and Pharisees--preachers of the world order--hypocrites. He quoted both Isaiah and Ezekiel 33 where he MARKS them as teachers, singers and instrument players. He said that they have NO RIGHT to hear the Words of God. Jesus does not even PRAY for them. He does not want them to hear the truth. Therefore, the story of the "locusts" or "muses" in Revelation shows how God holds the ungodly captive by the same speakers, singers and instrument players he calls SORCERERS in Revelation 18. They are agents of the Babylon Mother of Harlots just as were the evil race outside of the garden.
John 17:9 I pray for THEM: I pray not for the world,
.......... but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine.
John 17:10 And all mine are thine, and thine are mine;
and I am glorified in them.
Now, that the WORLD has been excluded, the Spiritual kingdom is held together by the NAME and the WORDS which Jesus Christ has given. Those are contained in the prophets and apostles.
2 Peter 1 shows that their MARK is that they do not teach that which was validated once for all times and left for our memory.
John 17:11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee.
.......... Holy Father, keep through thine OWN NAME
.......... those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.
John 17:12 While I was with them in the world,
.......... I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept,
.......... and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition;
.......... that the scripture might be fulfilled.
Christ, the Rock defined the Qahal, synagogue or church of Christ in the wilderness:
It was INCLUSIVE of Rest, Reading and Rehearsing the Word of God handed down from Moses
It was EXCLUSIVE of vocal or instrumental rejoicing. The rejoicing word translated alarm or triumph over would not have to be outlawed for people OF TRUTH.
In time each REST day quarantined the godly people FROM the worship of the starry host by the tribe of Levi whose father warned us against in Genesis 49. The assembly is defined by the Hebrew h4744 Miqra.
The Synagogue is defined in clear terms and defines the Church of Christ with the addition of the Lord's Supper as an act of evangelism. John Calvin spoke of Restoring the Church of Christ and defined the Church of Christ in the wilderness.
The vocal or instrumental rejoicing is left as a MARK of the Son of Perdition who claimed to be a FRIEND of Jesus: something like Judas wanting a unity meeting with those who understand the Word of God. The Dead Sea Scrolls version of Psalm 41 makes it clear that the perverse Levites as an old Egyptian cult would attempt to TRIUMPH over Jesus. Paying Judas whose Judas bag was "for carrying the mouthpieces of wind instruments" would eventially fail but MUSIC is left as the MARK.
See how the Sons of Perdition try to silence Jesus with music. In fact, music derived from mystery meant in the worship of the starry host and always "making the lambs dumb before the slaughter." Music was always called SACRED VIOLENCE because it was to silence the voice of the victim. Sure works with all of those new silly praise songs. In fact the SOP Jesus fed Judas to cause Satan to enter into him has the same root meaning as PSALLO. Psallo was invented by the Disciples long before the NACC but it is still the only weapon they have to try to use the violence and perversion word into the "worship" of peaceable Churches of Christ.
John 17:13 And now COME I TO THEE;
.......... and these things I SPEAK in the world,
.......... that they might have my joy FULFILLED in themselves.
CONTRARY TO THE POLYTHEISTS AT TULSA THE SON OF GOD IS THE WORD OF GOD.
Only those NOT of the world can possibly receive the Written words of the Living Word. In 2 Corinthians 3 Paul tells the Jews that they were blinded at Mount Sinai and would not be able to read BLACK text on BROWN paper until they converted or were baptized into Christ.
John 17:14 I have given them
.......... THY WORD; and
.......... the WORLD hath HATETH them,
.......... because they are not of the world,
.......... even as I am not of the world.
How can a select cast of men who deliberately mislead on the "music" issue and who self-applaud one another and are cheered on by those loving to see discord speak the TRUTH: speaking the truth would NOT let them sit in the high seats in the synagogues and be called "doctor of the law" because, warns Jesus, they take away the key to knowledge??
Based on the Keynoters: the Alpha Billy Goats of the hill for "one hour with the king" of the World, the Tulsa Workshop thinks that to achieve unity with the NACC which is a denomination rejected by Godly Christian churches is to dredge up all of the HATE mongers against the ANTI-instrumentalists who will neither bow to Baal while they pipe or refuse to STOP teaching the Word which no one can misunderstand without delusions form God.
The TULSA WORKSHOP was populated by people active in confiscating churches of Christ for the INSTRUMENTAL group under the management of the NACC. David Faust, then President of the NACC, travelled the UNITY meetings but then presented his full "white paper" full of black lies defending instruments. I hate to tell these guys but ALL of their proof examples using PSALLO as justification for sowing discord are by older males plucking the harp to seduce younger males: that was the wrath or ORGE Paul warned about if the women (or effeminate males) waved unholy arms.
http://www.piney.com/David.Faust.Temple.html
Apparently all you need to get on the program is to deliberately misteach or be STRONGLY DELUDED for having rejected all of the Word of God. The MARK of strong delusions is exactly the musical performance with or without instruments. The PRAISE GROUPS are defacto instrumental: ACappella is a steal word to fool the foolish who know that "a cappella" identifies the castrated opra "musical worship team" the Pope infiltrated into the Sistine Chapel where no instruments were permitted in the Pope's presence. So, ACappella is a "legalistic end run" as a way to ge the effeminate -- always emasculated -- praise singers which Paul identified as DOGS and excluded from worship IN THE SPIRIT. What they do is called Body Worship and is outlawed and ALWAYS marked as appealing to the gender-confused. What they were doing was stroking all of your nerve endings (all) to make you "feel something" which the most ignorant simple simon knew what science knows: it shuts down your logical (Logos) or rational mind and PREVENTS you from being able to distinguish that people like Al Maxey is spreading hate and utterly Bible illiteracy.
Randy Harris: not so much a false teacher as mystical. Promoter of Spiritual Formation which is witchery by any standard. See the David Lipscomb Summer 2008 and beyond
Josh Graves: Instrumental Music in his church. "Worship Team" the ZOE group another name for Lucifer.
False understanding of the Holy Spirit
Patrick Mead Instrumental music in his church. Absolutely ignores the context supplied by the NACC all of which are of those abandoned to worship the starry host BECAUSE of musical idolatry.
Part Two
KING OF THE MOUNTAIN FOR ONE HOUR THIS YEAR.
Rick Atchley twisted all of the Bible, converted the church house of widows, sowed discord to introduce instruments after promisiing that he would not. This was the meaning of the powers of the air: despotic choosing to take the house of others rather than leaving to join an instrumental church.
""The prodigal son" guarantees that he missed the real message about instrumental music. This is a favorite proof text for instruments in church. The first sowing of discord was over ordaining the deaconess.
Rick Atchley's 12 year frog boiling plan telegraphed for everyone but his supporters
http://www.piney.com/Rick-Atchley-Old.html
http://www.piney.com/Rick-Atchley-Music.html
TERRY RUSH: promotes instrumental music because there is no 'need to know' for preachers able to perform rhetorically, poetically or musically. This is ANTI-logos where SPEAK is the opposite of poetry or music.
http://www.piney.com/Terry.Rush.Review.html
Al Maxey "from slavery to freedom." The arch RACA hate monger against anyone who refused to ADMIT that instrumental music is the godly thing to use. This proves that Tulsa is devoted to trashing the ANTI-instrumentalists while promoting UNITY with those who have fleeced them.
Al Maxey "From Law to grace": misses that the rationale and PATTERNISM for instrumental music is slurped up from Israel being turned over to musically worship the starry host BECAUSE of musical idolatry. Music to all simple simons was to make the lambs dumb before the slaughter, the enemy flee in panic or the "John" cough up extra money. Sure, right there at the Temple.
Al Maxey "From faction to Family."
http://www.piney.com/Maxey.Miriam.html
I have reviewed many of Al's RACA articles which is the RADICAL LEFT'S Contending for The Faithless.
Jeff Walling one of the first to blurt out the instrumental music defense.
http://www.piney.com/WallingInd.html
You should grasp that this was founded and continues to be an INFILTRATE AND DIVERT movement: while claiming to represent the Church of Christ, they HAND PICK those who have already betrayed their own congregation or who continually gibber HATE crimes against those who will NOT use instruments and will NOT stop teaching what any Simple Simon reader knows by reading Genesis to Revelation and all recorded history which MARKS religious music and musicians with a MARK that will never rub off.
Believe me: no one could INTENTIONALLY be that Ignorant of ALL RECORDED HISTORY. They are either DELUDED and have an UNholy spirit or they are promoting the "carnal weapons" of the principalities and powers in high places.
John 17:15 I pray not that thou shouldest take them from the world,
but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil one.
What they all teach falsely is the CORE GOSPEL or "Just Jesus." However, Jesus and everyone taught the gospel of the Kingdom of Christ which is the Church of Christ. In a kingdom the King rules and has authority to command, example and infer to those NOT of the WORLD:Matt. 13:19 When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not,THE WHOLE ATTRACTIVE WORLD LIETH IN THE EVIL ONE: TO JOIN THE MASSES IS TERMINAL.
then cometh the evil one, and snatcheth away that which hath been sown in his heart.
This is he that was sown by the way side.
Matt. 13:37 And he answered and said, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;
Matt. 13:38 and the field is the world; and the good seed,
these are the sons of the kingdom;
and the tares are the sons of the evil one;
Matt. 13:39 and the enemy that sowed them is the devil:
and the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are angels.
1John 5:18 We know that whosoever is begotten of God sinneth not;
but he that was begotten of God keepeth himself, and the evil one toucheth him not.
1John 5:19 We know that we are of God,
and the whole world lieth in the evil one.
1John 5:20 And we know that the Son of God is come,
and hath given us an understanding, that we know him that is true,
and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ.
This is the true God, and eternal life.
1John 5:21 My little children, guard yourselves from idols.
The Kingdom of God is within you: don't GO to Tulsa or anywhere mean are holding workshops who in the words of Christ through Ezekiel go to "steal prophecies one from another." Just chaff which is being baptized with WIND to be baptized with FIRE.
John 17:16 They are not of the world even as I am not of the world.
John 17:17 Sanctify them in the truth:
thy word is truth.
What would you ADD by destroying God's CENI that would sanctify people? Don't you DENY that the Words of Christ IS Spirit and IS Truth.
IF YOU WERE SENT TO THE WORKSHOPS OF UNITY: YOU HAVE REFUSED TO GO INTO THE WORLD TO REPUDIATE THE WORLD:
John 17:18 As thou didst send me into the world,
even so sent I them into the world.
WILL THE WORLD BELIEVE IN JESUS BECAUSE MEN BOND TOGETHER TO STEAL CHURCH HOUSES OF WIDOWS?
John 17:19 And for their sakes I sanctify myself,
that they themselves also may be sanctified in truth.
John 17:20 Neither for these only do I pray,
but for them also that believe on me through their word;
John 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and dost thou not know me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; how sayest thou, Show us the Father?
John 14:10 Believest thou not that I AM IN the Father, and the Father IN ME?
the words that I say unto you I speak not from myself:
but the Father abiding in me doeth his works.
John 14:11 Believe me that I AM IN the Father, and the Father IN me:
or else believe me for the very works’ sake.
John 14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, he that believeth on me,
the works that I do shall he do also;
and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto the Father.If Jesus as the Son or "Word" had no words to invent, and the Spirit OF Christ had no words to invent, what shall we say of people who think that a pretended silence gives THEM greater authority than Jesus Christ?
KNOWING only a Crucified Christ does not mean just PREACH Jesus Christ as Al Maxey teaches. WHO went to Tulsa is not PRETENDING?
2Cor. 6:3 giving no occasion of stumbling in anything, that our ministration be not blamed;
2Cor. 6:4 but in everything commending ourselves, as ministers of God,
in much patience, in afflictions, in necessities, in distresses,
2Cor. 6:5 in stripes, in imprisonments, in tumults, in labors, in watchings, in fastings;
2Cor. 6:6 in pureness, in knowledge, in long suffering, in kindness, in the Holy Spirit, in love unfeigned,
2Cor. 6:7 in the word of truth, in the power of God; by the armor of righteousness on the right hand and on the left,
2Cor. 6:8 by glory and dishonor, by evil report and good report; as deceivers, and yet true;
2Cor. 6:9 as unknown, and yet well known; as dying, and behold, we live; as chastened, and not killed;THIS IS TO KNOW A CRUCIFIED CHRIST.THE BROTHERS OF JOHN WANTED JESUS TO GET ON THE LECTURE CIRCUIT.
The Feast of Tabernacles had become a giant fertility circus where everyone attended that ancient "tulsa" to gain influence, sell books and get on the lecture circuit. The brothers just knew that Jesus could perform some tricks and win all of the contests.
Unfortunately, weak preachers will sell their souls to sell their books and that means to get the endorsement of the darlings of the Feast of Tabernacles display of talent.
John 17:21 that they may all be one; even as thou,
Father, art in me, and I in thee,
that they also may be in us:
that the world may believe that thou didst send me.
When the watching world see those who BELIEVE in the use of instruments in the School of the Word uniting with those who BELIEVE in the use of instruments in the School of the Word why would anyone think that this TRUMPS seeing both groups speaking where Christ spoke and being silent where He was silent. Isn't that just too arrogant. Listen to the "patternism."
John 17:22 And the glory which thou hast given me I have given unto them;
that they may be one, even as we are one;
John 17:23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be perfected into one;
that the world may know that thou didst send me,
and lovedst them, even as thou lovedst me.
Peter dared anyone to "further expound" the prophecies by Christ and made more perfect by Jesus, eye and ear witnessed by the Apostles and left as an "example" (written) to MARK false teachers. Furthermore, by reading and musing the Words of Christ the "day star" would arise in our heart without any PUMPING IRON by theatrical enablers of the Word:
G5048 teleioō tel-i-o'-o From G5046 ; to complete, that is, (literally) accomplish, or (figuratively) consummate (in character):—consecrate, finish, fulfil, (make) perfect.John 17:24 Father,
G5046 teleios tel'-i-os From G5056 ; complete (in various applications of labor, growth, mental and moral character, etc.); neuter (as noun, with G3588 ) completeness:—of full age, man, perfect.
Scripture was delivered in PARTS of the WHOLE: when the Scriptures were perfected all people far and wide have access to the WORD of God which can make us complete IN Christ and OUT of the World.
I desire that they also whom thou hast given me be with me where I am,
that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me:
for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.
John 17:25 O righteous Father, the world knew thee not, but I knew thee;
and these knew that thou didst send me;
John 17:26 and I made known unto them thy name,
and will make it known;
that the love wherewith thou lovedst me may be in them, and I in them.
WHO ARE THE WORLD WHICH JESUS WILL NOT CONFESS THEIR NAMES?
Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? Matthew 7:22
"Singing served as a means of inducing ecstatic prophecy (speaking in tongues).
Thus the essential relationship between music and prophecy can be clearly seen.
This relationship also explains why the expression for "making music" and "prophesying" was often identical in the ancient tongues. origen contra celsum 8.67.The Hebrew word Naba signifies not only "to prophesy" but also "to make music." (Quasten, Johannes, Music and Worship in Pagan and Christian Antiquity, p. 39)
Dialog of Phaedrus and Socrates notes:
- It might be so if madness were simply an evil;
- but there is also a madness which is a divine gift,
- and the source of the chiefest blessings granted to men.
- For prophecy is a madness,
- and the prophetess at Delphi and the priestesses at Dodona
- when out of their senses have conferred great benefits on Hellas,
- both in public and private life,
- but when in their senses few or none.
And I might also tell you how the Sibyl and other inspired persons have given to many an one many an intimation of the future which has saved them from falling. But it would be tedious to speak of what every one knows.
There will be more reason in appealing to the ancient inventors of names, who would never have connected prophecy (mantike) which foretells the future and is the noblest of arts,
And when the Muses came and song appeared they were ravished with delight; and singing always, never thought of eating and drinking, until at last in their forgetfulness they died.And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. Matthew 7:23
THE LEVITES AN OLD EGYPTIAN CULT ARE THEIR PATTERNISM ACCORDING TO RICK ATCHLEY
1Chr. 15:19 So the singers, Heman, Asaph, and Ethan, were appointed to sound with cymbals of brass;
SOUND:
8085. shama, shaw-mah´; a primitive root; to hear intelligently (often with implication of attention, obedience, etc.; causatively, to tell, etc.):—x attentively, call (gather) together
8086. shma , shem-ah´; (Aramaic) corresponding to 8085:--hear, obey.
CYMBALS:
6750. = tsalal, tsaw-lal´; a primitive root (identical with 6749 through the idea of vibration); to tinkle, i.e. rattle together (as the ears in reddening with shame, or the teeth in chattering with fear):quiver, tingle.
6767. tslatsal, tsel-aw-tsal´; from 6750 reduplicated; a clatter, i.e. (abstractly) whirring (of wings); (concretely) a cricket; also a harpoon (as rattling), a cymbal (as clanging):--cymbal, locust, shadowing, spear.
6751. tsalal, tsaw-lal´; a primitive root (identical with 6749 through the idea of hovering over (compare 6754)); to shade, as twilight or an opaque object:--begin to be dark, shadowing.
CYMBALS AND THE TAMBOURINE WERE WOMEN'S INSTRUMENTS
Tympanotriba , ae, m., = tumpanotribês,
I. a taborer, a timbrel-player, a term of reproach for a soft, effeminate person (alluding to the priests of Cybele), Plaut. Truc. 2, 7, 49; cf. tympanum.T. Maccius Plautus, Truculentus, or The Churl
STRATOPHANES (to PHRONESIUM.) What say you? Why have you dared to say that you love another man?
PHRONESIUM I chose to.
STRATOPHANES Say you so, indeed? I'll first make trial of that. Do you, for the sake of such a shabby present, vegetables, and comestibles, and vinegar-water, bestow your love upon an effeminate, frizzle-pated, dark-haunt frequenting, drum-drubbing debauchee, a fellow not worth a nutshell:6 Is he deranged: "Hariolus." Literally, "a soothsayer," or "diviner." In their prophetic frenzy, these persons often had the appearance of being mad, and were so considered.
7 Drum-drubbing debauchee: "Typanotriba." Literally, "drum," or "tambourine beater." He alludes to the eunuch-priests of Cybele, who used to beat tambourines in her procession-probably in allusion to debauchees, emasculated by riot and dissipationThe Pope's Eunuchs [beginning of text]
One of the vices which the Spaniards had brought to Italy in the 16 century along with the Borgia family and the Spanish Roman Emperors was the falsetto singer. There were artists who could sing falsetto with distinction, but as the opera gained in popularity in Italy the practice began of emasculating boys with good voices and retaining them as male soprani or,
as the Italians, with their usual lack of Christian reticence about sex called them, the castrati. They were in every opera in the 18th century, but foreign visitors were never reconciled to them. The famous English weekly,
The Spectator, wrote about "the shrill celestial whine of eunuchs," and by the end of the 18th century they began to fade out of the opera-house.
Al Maxey proposes Miriam as a Musical Worship Ministeress"The trained musicians which eventually appear around the time of David and Solomon mark a distinctive change in the history of Jewish music. Before this time much of the music was made by women." (Zondervan Pict., Music p. 313).
"Before the establishment of the kingdom under Saul, it was the women who, as in every young civilization, played a major part in the performance of music. Such figures as Miriam, Deborah, Jephtha's daughter, and the women hailing the young hero David have become almost archetypes of female musicians. Characteristic of all these cases is the familiar picture of a female chorus, dancing and singing, accompanied by frenzied drum-beating. This is the scene known to the entire Near East, and not even the severe rule of Islam could wholly suppress this age-old practice." (Int Dict of the Bible, Music, p. 457).
"Women and girls from the different ranks of society were proud to enter the service of the gods as singers and musicians. The understanding of this service was universal: these singers constituted the 'harem of the gods'." "The Catholic Johannes Quasten in Pagan and Christian Music tells it like it is)
The prophesying of the Levite Cult was the same as that of Miriam and the MARK of the Lord Lord Sayers whom Jesus will NOT confess to the Father:
The spirit OF Christ spoke through the PROPHETS to univerally condemn music as the MARK and CAUSE of rejecting the Word. Otherwise, to prophesy meant to MAKE SELF a prophets in a singing, dancing and musical sense.
Exodus 15:[20] sumpsit ergo Maria prophetis soror Aaron tympanum in manu egressaeque sunt omnes mulieres post eam cum tympanis et chorisGod will afflict Miriam with leprosy when she claims to speak for God. The first meaning of prophet in the PAGAN sense meant a charismatic, musical performer. All dramatic performance is INTERPRETATION which is, according to Paul, just speaking in tongues.
Prophe-ta I. a foreteller, SOOTHSAYER prophet... oraculorumque interpretes, sacerdotes Aegyptiorum, quos prophetas vocant, [Priestess of Egpt prophetess call out] Aegyptius, propheta primariusREAL men don't do that!
PHRASE: Aegyptius, propheta primarius1. Aegyptius,
2. Prophetai
3. Primarius I. one of the first, of the first rank, chief, principal, excellent, remarkable,
primarius
parasitus conviva, parasiti Jovis, the gods, parasitus Phoebi, a player, actor, one who, by flattery and buffoonery, manages to live at another's expense, a sponger, toad-eater, parasite. —The tutelar deity of parasites was Hercules
Plaut. Curc. 2, 3, 79.
My genial patron: "Nutricem;" literally, "nurse." It has been suggested that the Parasite intended to compliment his entertainer, the Captain, under the name of Hercules, whom he invokes for luck. The Delphin Commentator says that Parasites invoked Hercules because the tenths of entertainments were offered to him, and these were distributed among the needy, in the number of whom they ranked.
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