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Zeus gives greater honor to a father's death, according to what you say; [640] yet he himself bound his aged father, Cronus. How does this not contradict what you say? I call on you as witnesses turning to the judges to hear these things.

Apollo

Oh, monsters utterly loathed and detested by the gods! Zeus could undo fetters, there is a remedy for that, [645] and many means of release. But when the dust has drawn up the blood of a man, once he is dead, there is no return to life. For this, my father has made no magic spells, although he arranges all other things, turning them up and down; [650] nor does his exercise of force cost him a breath.

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Apollodorus, Library and Epitome Sir James George Frazer, Ed. section 1 chapter 7 section 14

[14]

With one ship he put in to the Aeaean isle. It was inhabited by Circe, a daughter of the Sun and of Perse, and a sister of Aeetes; skilled in all enchantments was she.¹ Having divided his comrades, Ulysses himself abode by the ship, in accordance with the lot, but Eurylochus with two and twenty comrades repaired to Circe.

1 As to the adventures of Ulysses and his comrades with the enchantress Circe, see Hom. Od. 10.133-574; Hyginus, Fab. 125; Ov. Met. 14.246-440. The word （φάρμακα） here translated “enchantments” means primarily drugs; but in the early stages of medicine drugs were supposed to be endowed with magical potency, partly in virtue of the spells, that is, the form of words, with which the medical practitioner administered them to the patient. Hence druggist and enchanter were nearly synonymous terms. As Circe used her knowledge of drugs purely for magical purposes, without any regard to the medical side of the profession, it seems better to translate her φάρμακα by “enchantments” or “charms” rather than “drugs,” and to call her an enchantress instead of a druggist.

\ SORCERY Plato, Euthydemus, Protagoras, Gorgias, Meno

[289e] For not only do these speech-writers themselves, when I am in their company, impress me as prodigiously clever, Cleinias, but their art itself seems so exalted as to be almost inspired. However, this is not surprising; for it is a part of the sorcerer's art,

epôidê, Ion. and poet. epa^oidê , hê,

A. song sung to or over: hence, enchantment, spell, epaoidêi d' haima..eschethon Od.19.457 , cf. Pi.P.4.217 ; ou pros iatrou sophou thrênein epôidas pros tomônti pêmati S.Aj. 582 oute pharmaka..oud' au epôidai Pl.R. 426b ; charm for or against

The singers (Muses working for Apollo), musicians and TECHNE or craftsmen are theater builders and stage managers. They all go back into hell for performing SORCHERY.

Lu.7:32 They are like unto children sitting in the marketplace, and calling one to another, and saying, We have piped unto you, and ye have not danced; we have mourned [thrênein epôidas] to you, and ye have not wept.

Threneo (g2354) thray-neh'-o; from 2355; to bewail: - lament, mourn.

epôidê used Of the Magi, Hdt.1.132

Magi A Median tribe of magicians and interpreters of dreams: Hdt. 1.101

The Magian usurpation of royalty and its end: Hdt. 3.61, Hdt. 3.63-69, Hdt. 3.71, Hdt. 3.74-80

Hdt.1.132 Heredotus 1.CXXXII. And this is their method of sacrifice to the aforesaid gods: when about to sacrifice, they do not build altars or kindle fire, employ libations, or music, or fillets, or barley meal: when a man wishes to sacrifice to one of the gods, he leads a beast to an open space and then, wearing a wreath on his tiara, of myrtle usually, calls on the god.

[2] To pray for blessings for himself alone is not lawful for the sacrificer; rather, he prays that the king and all the Persians be well; for he reckons himself among them. He then cuts the victim limb from limb into portions, and, after boiling the flesh, spreads the softest grass, trefoil usually, and places all of it on this.

[3] When he has so arranged it, a Magus comes near and chants over it the song of the birth of the gods, as the Persian tradition relates it; for no sacrifice can be offered without a Magus. Then after a little while the sacrificer carries away the flesh and uses it as he pleases.

logos haireei. More often without an object (cf. vi. 124. 3); 'as reason takes him,' i. e. as he pleases. haireô , [Outlawed for the ekklesia in Romans 15)

Used with pharmakon 3. enchanted potion, philtre: hence, charm, spell, [used with epôidê,]

Homer, Odyssey 4. Then Helen, daughter of Zeus, took other counsel. [220] Straightway she cast into the wine of which they were drinking a drug to quiet all pain and strife, and bring forgetfulness of every ill.

Nimrod knew that singers do that: they are called LOCUSTS under Apollyon.

Re.17:4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication: Re.18:3

Re 18:3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.

Whoso should drink this down, when it is mingled in the bowl, would not in the course of that day let a tear fall down over his cheeks, [225] no, not though his mother and father should lie there dead, or though before his face men should slay with the sword his brother or dear son, and his own eyes beheld it. Such cunning drugs had the daughter of Zeus, drugs of healing, which Polydamna, the wife of Thon, had given her, a woman of Egypt, for there the earth, the giver of grain, bears greatest store [230] of drugs, many that are healing when mixed, and many that are baneful; there every man is a physician, wise above human kind; for they are of the race of Paeeon. [Descendants of Apollo, Abaddon or Apollyon]

[250] I alone recognized him in this disguise, and questioned him, but he in his cunning sought to avoid me. Howbeit when I was bathing him and anointing him with oil, and had put on him raiment, and sworn a mighty oath not to make him known among the Trojans as Odysseus [255] before that he reached the swift ships and the huts, then at length he told me all the purpose of the Achaeans. And when he had slain many of the Trojans with the long sword, he returned to the company of the Argives and brought back plentiful tidings.

Then the other Trojan women wailed aloud, but my soul [260] was glad, for already my heart was turned to go back to my home, and I groaned for the blindness that Aphrodite [ZOE] gave me, when she led me thither from my dear native land, forsaking my child and my bridal chamber, and my husband, a man who lacked nothing, whether in wisdom or in comeliness."

[290a] and only slightly inferior to that. The sorcerer's art is the charming of snakes and tarantulas and scorpions and other beasts and diseases, while the other is just the charming and soothing of juries, assemblies [ekklêsia], crowds, and so forth. Or does it strike you differently? I asked.

No, it appears to me, he replied, to be as you say.
Which way then, said I, shall we turn now? What kind of art shall we try?
For my part, he said, I have no suggestion.
Why, I think I have found it myself, I said.
What is it? said Cleinias.

Chapter X. Theatrical Performance and Religion

Let us pass on now to theatrical exhibitions, which we have already shown have a common origin with the circus, and bear like idolatrous designations-even as from the first they have borne the name of "Ludi," and equally minister to idols.

They resemble each other also in their pomp, having the same procession to the scene of their display from temples and altars, and that mournful profusion of incense and blood,

with music of pipes and trumpets,
all under the direction of the soothsayer and the undertaker,
those two foul masters of funeral rites and sacrifices.

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[289d] On what proof do you rely? I asked.

I see, he said, certain speech-writers who do not know how to use the special arguments composed by themselves, just as lyre-makers in regard to their lyres: in the former case also there are other persons able to use what the makers produced, while being themselves unable to make the written speech. Hence it is clear that in speech likewise there are two distinct arts, one of making and one of using.

I think you give sufficient proof, I said, that this art of the speech-writers cannot be that whose acquisition would make one happy. And yet I fancied that somewhere about this point would appear the knowledge which we have been seeking all this while.

[289e] For not only do these speech-writers themselves, when I am in their company, impress me as prodigiously clever, Cleinias, but their art itself seems so exalted as to be almost inspired. However, this is not surprising; for it is a part of the sorcerer's art,

[290a] and only slightly inferior to that.

The SORCERER'S art is the charming of snakes and tarantulas and SCORPIONS and other beasts and diseases,

while the other is just the charming and soothing of JURIES, assemblies, crowds, and so forth. Or does it strike you differently? I asked. [The other being lyre-makers in regard to their lyres]

No, it appears to me, he replied, to be as you say.
Which way then, said I, shall we turn now? What kind of art shall we try?
For my part, he said, I have no suggestion.
Why, I think I have found it myself, I said.
What is it? said Cleinias."

Musica , ae, and mu-sice- , e-s, f., = mousikê, the art of music, music; acc. to the notions of the ancients, also every higher kind of artistic or scientific culture or pursuit: musicam Damone socci et cothurni,i. e. comic and dramatic poetry, Aus. Ep. 10, 43 : musice antiquis temporibus tantum venerationis habuit,

Similar meaning:

Exegetice , es, f., = exêgêtikê, the art of interpretation, exegesis, Diom. 2, p. 421 P.

Magice- , e-s, f., = magikê (sc. technê), the magic art, magic, sorcery medicinam [dico magicenque, magices factio

Factio , o-nis, f. [id.] II. (Acc. to facio, II. B.; lit., a taking part or siding with any one; hence concr.) A company of persons associated or acting together, a class, order, sect, faction, party (syn.: pars, partes, causa, rebellio, perduellio, seditio).

B. In partic., a company of political adherents or partisans, a party, side, faction

Magia , ae, f., = mageia, the science of the Magi, magic, sorcery (post-class.),

Mageia , hê, theology of the Magians, m. hê Zôroastrou Pl.Alc.1.122a

Sorcerers and singers

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"For this office, to which they were appointed, was no servile one, as that they should blow the trumpets at the command of others; but rather did God thus set them over public affairs,

that the people might not tumultuously call their assemblies in the blindness and precipitation of passion, but rather that modesty, gravity, and moderation should be observed in them.

We know how often in earthly affairs God is not regarded, but counsels are confidently discussed without reference to His word.

He testified, therefore, by this employment of the priests, that all assemblies, except those in which He should preside, were accursed.

"Profane nations also had their ceremonies, such as auguries, supplications, soothsayings, victims, because natural reason dictated that nothing could be engaged in successfully without Divine assistance; but God would have His people bound to Him in another way, so that, when called by the sound of the sacred trumpets as by a voice from heaven, they should assemble to holy and pious deliberations.

The circumstance of the place also has the same object. The door of the Tabernacle was to them, as if they placed themselves in the sight; of God.

We will speak of the word dewm, mogned (synagogue) elsewhere. Although it signifies an appointed time, or place, and also an assembly of the people, I prefer translating it convention, because God there in a solemn manner, as if before

His sacred tribunal, called the people to witness, or, according to appointment, proceeded to make a covenant with them.

Thus Malvenda in Poole's Syn., "et clangetis taratantara." The word is used by Ennius "At tuba terribili sonitu taratantara dixit." -- Serv. in, AEn, 4. A.V., "an alarm."

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V. And where will you place the butchery of Pelops,17 which feasted hungry gods, that bitter and inhuman hospitality? Where the horrible and dark spectres of Hecate, and the underground puerilities and sorceries of Trophonius, or the babblings of the Dodonaean Oak, or the trickeries of the Delphian tripod, or the prophetic draught of Castalia, which could prophesy anything, except their own being brought to silence?18 Nor is it the sacrificial art of Magi, and their entrail forebodings, nor the Chaldaean astronomy and horoscopes, comparing our lives with the movements of the heavenly bodies, which cannot know even what they are themselves, or shall be. Nor are these Thracian orgies, from which the word Worship (qrhskei/a) is said to be derived; nor rites and mysteries of Orpheus, whom the Greeks admired so much for his wisdom that they devised for him a lyre which draws all things by its music. Nor the tortures of Mithras19 which it is just that those who can endure to be initiated into such things should suffer; nor the manglings of Osiris,20 another calamity honoured by the Egyptians; nor the ill-fortunes of Isis21 and the goats more venerable than the Mendesians, and the stall of Apis,22 the calf that luxuriated in the folly of the Memphites, nor all those honours with which they outrage the Nile, while themselves proclaiming it in song to be the Giver of fruits and corn, and the measurer of happiness by its cubits.23

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In Isaiah 54 God said:

"All your children shall be taught by the Lord. And great shall be the peace of your children." Isaiah 54:13

In righteousness shalt thou be established: thou shalt be far from oppression; for thou shalt not fear: and from terror; for it shall not come near thee. Isaiah 54:14

Indeed they shall surely assemble, but not because of Me. Whoever assembles against you shall fall for your sake." Isaiah 54:15

Behold, I have created the smith that bloweth the coals in the fire, and that bringeth forth an instrument for his work; and I have created the waster to destroy. Isaiah 54:16

No weapon (sword or musical) that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue (lashown) that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the Lord, and their righteousness is of me, saith the Lord. Isaiah 54:17

Keliy (g3627) kel-ee'; from 3615; something prepared, i. e. any apparatus (as an implement..., artillery, bag, carriage, Instrument, psaltery..

In Isaiah 55 the food and water is free and God asks, "Why do you spend your money for what is not bread and your wages for what does not satisfy? Listen diligently to Me, and eat what is good, and let your soul delight itself in abundance." Only then would He make an everlasting covenant with individuals. God describes the spiritual "water cycle." Only the Word which comes from God does God's work when it is recycled through those who have never heard it. They, in turn, replate the word and it returns to God. Your words, O presumptuous child, do not have this power.

Next we see what Huston Smith was talking about: religious art as a substitute for religious text. "Religious `texts' have been sung, not written, throughout most of human history; and religious behavior has found musical articulation in almost every religious tradition.

Navajo priests are `singers'; the primary carriers of Sinhala traditional religion are drummers and dancers; and the shamans of northern Eurasia and Inner Asia use music as their principal medium of contact with the spirit world. Through the centuries, priests, monks, and other specialists have sung the Christian masses, Buddhist pujas, Islamic calls to prayer, Hindu sacrifices, and other ceremonies that form the basis of organized religious observances in the world's major religions." (164) I hadn't realized music was important in so many religions. I have neglected these other religions so far, but I only have so much time. Ellingson, Ter. "Music and Religion." The Encyclopedia of Religion. Ed. Mircea Eliade. New York: Macmillan Publishing Company, 1987. 163-171.

Many other jazz musicians also note similarites between preachers and performers:

A good deal of such ecstasy--reminiscent of a shamanic seance with its rhythmic kinesis, music, words, and audience participation--carried over into jazz. And in some ways the jazzman was like a preacher. Guitarist Danny Barker noted, in connection with Bessie Smith, "If you had any church background, like people who came from the South, as I did, you would recognize a similarity between what she was doing and what those preachers and evangelists from there did, and how they moved people. Bessie did that same thing on stage...she could bring about mass hypnotism." Charles Mingus liked to think of the bandstand as something like a pulpit. "You're up there...trying to express yourself. It's like being a preacher in a sense" (Leonard 48). Berliner, Paul F. The Infinite Art of Improvisation. Chicago: The University of Chicago Press, 1994. Some quotes here.

In Isaiah 56 the children of the foreigner and the eunuch (emasculated while observing pagan rituals) will be honored more than the natural children.

This was because all human leaders become irresponsible. In the book of Enoch and many other ancient documents, the enemy is identified by the name of a beast. For instance, the serpent is actually the Chaldean soothsayer: he is a musician. Isaiah noted:

All ye beasts (merry congregation, or multitude, singing and dancing) of the field, come to devour, yea, all ye beasts in the forest. Isaiah 56:9

His watchmen are blind: they are all ignorant, they are all dumb dogs (keleb = male prostitutes), they cannot bark; sleeping, lying down, loving to slumber. Isaiah 56: 10

Yea, they are greedy dogs which can never have enough, and they are shepherds that cannot understand: they all look to their own way, every one for his gain, from his quarter. Isaiah 56: 11

Come ye, say they, I will fetch wine, and we will fill ourselves with strong drink; and to morrow shall be as this day, and much more abundant. Isaiah 56: 12

But draw near hither, ye sons of the sorceress, the seed of the adulterer and the whore. Isaiah 57:3

Against whom do ye sport (effeminate play) yourselves? against whom make ye a wide mouth, and draw out the tongue? are ye not children of transgression, a seed of falsehood, Isaiah 57:4

Sport: Anag (g6028) aw-nag'; a prim. root; to be soft or pliable, i. e. (fig.) effeminate or luxurious: - delicate (-ness), (have) delight (self), sport self.

Shaga (h7696) shaw-gah'; a prim. root; to rave through insanity: - (be, play the) mad (man). (Isa 21:14)

The Jewish clergy are identified as children of the Devil who "spoke of himself" and as "seed of the vipers."

At Mount Sinai: Cachaq (g6711) tsaw-khak'; a prim. root; to laugh outright (in merriment or scorn); by impl. to sport: - laugh, mock, play, make sport.

David: Sachaq (h7832) saw-khak'; a prim. root; to laugh (in pleasure or detraction); by impl. to play: - deride, have in derision, laugh, make merry, mock (-er), play, rejoice, (laugh to) scorn, be in (make) sport.

Samson shows that these are identical words:

When you see the singing, dancing, handclapping and other signs of sporting or "rising up to play" you know that the "dogs" have taken over but not for long. This is the sign or MARK God imposes on those who reject the Word:

And the fruits that thy soul lusted after are departed from thee, and all things which were dainty and goodly are departed from thee, and thou shalt find them no more at all. Re.18:14

And the voice of harpers, and musicians, and of pipers, and trumpeters, shall be heard no more at all in thee; and no craftsman, of whatsoever craft he be, shall be found any more in thee; and the sound of a millstone shall be heard no more at all in thee; Revelation 18:22

And the light of a candle (the Word of Christ) shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived. Revelation 18:23

Here is the common understanding of music and sorcery:

Strabo Geography [10.3.9] "But I must now investigate how it comes about that so many names have been used of one and the same thing, and the theological element contained in their history.

Now this is common both to the Greeks and to the barbarians,

to perform their sacred rites in connection with the relaxation of a festival, these rites being performed sometimes with religious frenzy, sometimes without it; sometimes with music, sometimes not; and sometimes in secret, sometimes openly.

And it is in accordance with the dictates of nature that this should be so, for, in the

first place, the relaxation draws the mind away from human occupations and turns the real mind towards that which is divine; and,

secondly, the religious frenzy seems to afford a kind of divine inspiration and to be very like that of the soothsayer; and,

thirdly, the secrecy with which the sacred rites are concealed induces reverence for the divine, since it imitates the nature of the divine,

which is to avoid being perceived by our human senses; and,

fourthly, music, which includes dancing as well as rhythm and melody,

at the same time, by the delight it affords and by its artistic beauty,

brings us in touch with the divine, and this for the following reason;

for although it has been well said that human beings then act most like the gods when they are doing good to others,

yet one might better say, when they are happy; and such happiness consists of rejoicing, celebrating festivals, pursuing philosophy, and engaging in music;

A preacher can "plant" the seed all he wishes but the "musical worship" immediately takes away all but the emotional content. All ancient scholars understood that.

And the sign to Judas was "sop" which is related to grinding one into powder or external "musical melody."

And after the sop Satan entered into him. Then said Jesus unto him, That thou doest, do quickly. Jn 13:27

Glosokomon (g1101) gloce-sok'-om-on; from 1100 (speaking in tongues) and the base of 2889; prop. a case to keep mouthpieces of wind-instruments in, i.e. (by extens.) a casket or (spec.) purse: - bag.

It is made up of two words:

1. Glossa (from Strong's g1100) means "speaking in tongues" especially an unacquired one.

Tongue is from the Hebrew--

Lashown (H3956) law-shone'; also (in plur.) fem. from 3960; the tongue (of man or anmals), used

literally. (as the instrument of licking, eating, of speech), and

figurative. (speech, an ingot, a fork of flame, a cove or water): - babbler, bay, / evil speaker, language, talker, tongue, wedge

lashan (h3960) law-shan'; a prim. root; prop. to lick; but used only as a denom. from 3956;

to wag the tongue, i. e. to calumniate: - accuse, slander.

2. Kosmos (g2889) means the "orderly arrangement" or the "adorning" world. this is derived from (g2864 or Komizo which means "to carry off."

And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are: 1Co.1:28

Pseudo-Apollodorus Library vol. 2.49 (Loeb) reveals some of the beliefs that Satan can lick the tongue and give you prophetic power. Of Apollo (Apollyon, Abbadon):

"Apollo deprived Cassandra of the power of persuading men of the truth of her prophecies

by spitting into her mouth.

We have seen that by a similar procedure Glaucus was robbed of the faculty of divination.

See above, Apollod. 3.3.2. An entirely different account of the way in which Cassandra and her twin brother Helenus acquired the gift of prophecy is given by a Scholiast on Hom. Il. vii.44. He says that when the festival in honour of the birth of the twins was being held in the sanctuary of the Thymbraean Apollo,

the two children played with each other there and fell asleep in the temple.

Meantime the parents and their friends, flushed with wine, had gone home, forgetting all about the twins whose birth had given occasion to the festivity.

Next morning, when they were sober, they returned to the temple and found the sacred serpents purging with their tongues the organs of sense of the children.

Frightened by the cry which the women raised at the strange sight, the serpents disappeared among the laurel boughs which lay beside the infants on the floor;

but from that hour Cassandra and Helenus possessed the gift of prophecy. For this story the Scholiast refers to the authority of Anticlides.

In like manner Melampus is said to have acquired the art of soothsaying through the action of serpents which licked his ears. See above, Apollod. 1.9.11

Fittingly, Satan is called the Kosmokrator:

Kosmokrator (g2888) kos-mok-rat'-ore; from 2889 and 2902; a world-ruler, an epithet of Satan: - ruler.

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Ephesians 6:12

(For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;) 2 Corinthians 10:4

Weapon and musical instrument come from the same Hebrew and Greek word.

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