David Young North Boulevard Church of Christ Predestination

Why David Young, Northboulevard Church of Christ, is NOT a Christian.

Worship is understood by all readers of Holy Scripture is a godly fear BOWING with the face toward the ground or FALLING ON YOUR FACE in reverence and Godly Fear.  David says that A Musical Worship Team and music can FILL YOU WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT.  That is BLASPHEMY because,  BY DESIGN, there worship is never defined as WORSHIP in Holy Scripture.

Hab. 2:19 Woe unto him that saith to the wood, Awake; to the dumb stone,
        Arise, it shall TEACH! Behold, it is laid over with gold and silver,
         and there is no BREATH at all in the midst of it.
Hab. 2:20 But the LORD is in his holy temple:
        let all the earth keep silence before him.

We even have a mention at a later date of a similar custom in connection with the cult in Jerusalem, where certain Levites, called me'oreim, 'arousers," sang every morning this verse from Ps 44: 'Awake, Lord, awake! Do not abandon us for ever." The Talmud tells us that Johy Hyrcanus suppressed the practice because it recalled too readily a pagan custom.

A similar practice is attested in connection with the cult of Herakles-Melkart. According to Menander, as he is quoted by Josephus, the king Hiram, who was a contemporary of Solomon, rebuilt the temples of Tyre and, 'he was the first to celebrate the awakening of Heracles [god of homosexuals]in the month of Peritius." (de Vaux, p. 247)

PAUL COMMANDED FEMALES TO LEARN IN SILENCE: MEN ARE INCLUDED.

It is a STRONG DELUSION that God ever commanded a DAY for worship.
It is a STRONG DELUSION that God ever commanded any action by the hands of men as worship.
It is a STRONG DELUSION to claim that Jesus died in vain unable to "supply all that applies to life and godliness."
It is a STRONG DELUSION that God ever authorized ANY FUNDING for any funded STAFF to ride on the backs of widows
It is a STRONG DELUSION to claim that God commanded SINGING with or without a Mechanical Device.
It is a STRONG DELUSION and a LIE that there is a Law of Tithing or a Law of Giving

It is the DEFINITION of a CULT to operate a center of SANCTITY with command authority, controlling the member's life several days during the week.

John 7:18 He that speaketh of himself seeketh his own glory:
        but he that seeketh his glory that sent him,
        the same is true, and no unrighteousness is in him.


John 8:26 I have many things to say and to judge of you:
        but he that sent me is true;
        and I SPEAK to the world those things which I have HEARD of him.
John 8:27 They understood not that he spake to them of the Father.
John 8:28 Then said Jesus unto them,
        When ye have lifted up the Son of man,
        then shall ye know that I am he,
        and that I do nothing of myself;
                but as my Father hath taught me,
                I speak these things.
John 8:29 And he that sent me is with me:
        the Father hath not left me alone;
         for I DO always those things that PLEASE him.
John 8:30 As he spake these WORDS, many believed on him.
John 8:31 Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him,
        IF ye continue in my WORD, THEN are ye MY disciples indeed;

DAVID YOUNG'S SELF-EXHIBITION IS DEFINED AS THE ANTITHESIS OF ANY BELIEVER.

-Thei-azō , (theios A) A.to be inspired, frenzied, hoposoi autous theiasantes epēlpisan as many as made them hope by divinations Th.8.1, hoposoi teletais etheiazon   obtained inspiration through RITUAL, Philostr.Her.5.3.
II.worship as divine, Id.59.27; “Puthagoran kai Platōna” [“logos epi teleutē tou Alexandrou etheiasthēArr.An.7.18.6; “

Thuc. 8.1 with the soothsayers, and prophets, and all who by the influence of religion had at the time inspired them with the belief that they would conquer Sicily [or plant 60,000 congregations]
khrēsmologois te kai mantesi

God's WORD or LOGOS  consists of inclusive and exclusive things connected with how God puts His WORD into the MOUTH of Jesus for the last time without the help of A Holy Spirit person.

http://pineycom.com/RSLogos.html

John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth,
        and the truth shall make you free.
John 8:33 They answered him, We be Abraham’s seed,
        and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?
John 8:34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you,
        Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.
John 8:35 And the servant abideth not in the house for ever:
        but the Son abideth ever.
John 8:36 If the Son therefore shall make you free,
        ye shall be free indeed.
John 8:37 I know that ye are Abraham’s seed;
        but ye seek to kill me, because my WORD hath no place in you.

JESUS SAID THAT THE SONS OF THE DEVIL "SPEAK ON THEIR OWN." THE HOLY SPIRIT IN ISAIAH 58 OUTLAWS SPEAKING YOUR OWN WORDS.

John 8:38  I SPEAK that which I have seen with my Father:
         and ye DO that which ye have seen with YOUR father.


Devil Do:
poiētai 4. after Hom., of Poets, compose, write, p. dithurambon, epea, Hdt.1.23, 4.14; “p. theogoniēn 

Epos  joined with muthos,     1. song or lay accompanied by music, 8.91,17.519.
2. fiction (opp. logos, historic truth),  THE REGULATIVE PRINCIPLE

Hdt. 1.23 Periander, who disclosed the oracle's answer to Thrasybulus, was the son of Cypselus, and sovereign of Corinth. The Corinthians say (and the Lesbians agree) that the most marvellous thing [Lying Wonders] that happened to him in his life was the landing on Taenarus of Arion of Methymna, brought there by a dolphin. This Arion was a lyre-player second to none in that age; he was the first man whom we know to compose and name the dithyramb1 which he afterwards taught at Corinth.

1 The dithyramb was a kind of dance-music particularly associated with the cult of Dionysus.

Devil Do: LATIN:   făcĭo ,  to make in all senses, to do, perform, accomplish, prepare, produce, bring to pass, cause, effect, create, commit, perpetrate, form, fashion operor Lying Wonder,  poëma,to compose, id. Pis. 29, 70: “carmina,Juv. 7, 28: “versus,id. 7, 38: “sermonem,Cic. Fam. 9, 8, 1; cf. “litteram, id. Ac. 2, 2, 6: ludos, to celebrate, exhibit, admirationem alicujus rei alicui,to excite [the Laded Burden],

Devil Do: carmen
 I.a tune, song; poem, verse; an oracular response, a prophecy; a form of incantation (cf.: cano, cantus, and canto). note, sound, both vocal and instrumental “also versus, numeri, modi): carmen tuba ista peregit ( = sonus),Enn. Ann. 508 Vahl.: “carmine vocali clarus citharāque Philammon,Ov. M. 11, 317; cf. “vocum,id. ib. 12, 157: “per me (sc. Apollinem) concordant carmina nervis

barbaricum, id. M. 11, 163.—With allusion to playing on the cithara: The Moher o Harlots in John 17 Carminibus Circe socios mutavit Ulixi,
Devil Do:   Commercium sermonis,  7  In mercant. lang., to practise, exercise, follow any trade or profession:  8. In relig. lang., like the Gr. rhezein, to perform or celebrate a religious rite; to offer sacrifice, make an offering, to sacrifice:

Devil Do: Mousa   II. mousa, as Appellat., music, song, m. stugeraA.Eu.308 (anap.); “euphamosId.Supp.695 
Kanakhan .Clanging Brass
 Theias 
as many as made them hope by divinations, Madness caused by Ritual
       
worship as divine, Puthagoran  [Of the Cosmos, the Ecumenical, Kingdom of the Devil."
Antiluron mousas
S.Tr.643 (lyr.);  PLAYING THE LYRE
Aiakō moisan pherein
I. bear or carry a load,  A Laded Burden


The North Boulevard Church of Christ began by promoting Rick Warren's Purpose Driven Church or Cult.  We are not permitted to listen to David Young's Sermon on PREDESTINATION but this is consistent with the Neo-Calvinism of Lipscomb University with the Reformed influence.  Being "scholars" they have never read any real John Calvin nor the Bible except to find proof texts.*  The concept of Predestination is that God works or CAUSES every cell in your body to do what He predestinated from eternity.  When Rick Warren's son killed himself he was bound to say that in effect God KILLED HIM by moving all of the cells in the son's body.

David Young and the North Boulevard Church of Christ ADVERSARIAL ATTACK on the Church of Christ ordained in its pre Pentecost inclusive and exclusive pattern.

David Young and the North Boulevard Church of Christ: a CHARISMATIC BREAK OUT Church must be culture driven

David Young and the North Boulevard Church of Christ EXTREME DISCIPLING  Imposing the Laded Burden by Burden Laders

David Young and the North Boulevard Church of Christ endorsing "musical worship teams" and the use of "instrumental Music."


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This a Satanic idea because there is not a single passage which teaches the TULIP version of the Purpose Driven Cult.  John Calvin said as much about free will as predestination.  However, the "theologians" have never read John Calvin's writings nor the Bible other than to lift out verses.

The Jews believed that they were PREDESTINATED and "Father Abraham stands by the gates of hell to prevent ANY Jew from entering in."
Paul's ONLY message is that the Jews are NOW commanded (PreCounciled) to be comformed to the image of Jesus Christ and walk by HIS WORDS. Using the Levites as a pattern for Musical Worship Teams may refute gloating.
This was to PREVENT the JEWS from continuing to boast that THEY WERE SPECIAL in the same way that David Young boasts that HE is special and cannot be lost.

This the arrogance and pride based on SELF WORTH and Legalism which means to perform preaching, singing, playing instruments, acting, shouting, dancing, clapping, hugging and kissing.  1 Corinthians 10 has the same message as Romans 8-11:

ARROGANCE AND BEING LIFTED UP WITH PRIDE IS THE LUCIFER MARK.  DAVID says that God MADE his crown from eternity past.  However, Paul said that

1Cor. 9:24 Know ye not that they which run in a race run all, but one receiveth the prize?
        So RUN, that ye may obtain.

1Cor. 9:25 And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things.
        Now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown; but we an incorruptible.
1Cor. 9:26 I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not as one that beateth the air:
1Cor. 9:27 But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection:
        lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.

How can David and the elders become CASTAWAYS if they CANNOT become castaways?

Here is what they claim CANNOT happen if you get baptized at North Boulevard and get "a" holy spirit person living inside of you.

Apopempō , A.send off or away, dispatch, dismiss, wife  put away, divorce her,
2. send off, dispatch,anathēmata es DelphousHdt.1.51 banish, exorcise disease, “aigas es agriadas tēn apopempometha

The locusts were called "musical prophesiers." The muses as shepherdesses were the musical worship team of Abaddon or Apollyon at Delphi.  Paul cast out the Pythian spirit from the young girl.

If you adorn a place you claim is holy where you can lead people into God's presence such as a speaker, praise singer, instrument player or anyone who claims that they can guild the lily Anathema means that God has DEDICATED you to the Harem

Anathēma  
votive offering set up in a temple, Hdt.1.14,92, S.Ant.286, etc.; “a. ek leitourgiōn” [III. public service of the gods] Lys.26.4.
agalma, delight, ornament,molpē t' orkhēstus  3. of a slave in a temple

If you claim to adorn a holy place such as a temple you CANNOT be redeemed and you must be burned.  You are a glory or delight for the church and are agalma  khōras a., of an ode, Pi.N.3.13  2. pleasing gift, esp. for the gods, a. theōnOd.8.509, of a bull adorned for sacrifice, “Kharēs eimi . . a. tou Apollōnos
3.
of a slave in a temple, a. poleōs devoted to this service by the city, E.Ion310.—Cf. anathema.

A Church of Christ by definition can have no LITURGICAL ACTIONS
Leitourg-eō
If you claim to be the leader of liturgy the demand is serve public offices at one's own cost,
  2. perform religious service, minister, “epi tōn hierōnD.H.2.22; “ KuriōAct.Ap.13.2, etc. (Written lit- in Rev.Et.Anc.32.5 (Athens, i B.C.), etc., cf. leitourgion, leitourgos.
Acts 13:1 Now there were in the church that was at Antioch certain prophets and teachers; as Barnabas, and Simeon that was called Niger, and Lucius of Cyrene, and Manaen, which had been brought up with Herod the tetrarch, and Saul.
Acts 13:2 As they ministered to the Lord, and fasted, the Holy Ghost said,
        Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have called them.
Acts 13:3 And when they had fasted and prayed, and laid their hands on them, they sent them away.

leitourg-ia A.public service performed by private citizens at their own expense thera^p-eia service paid to the gods worship of Apollo Agyieus,

Paul commanded that Timothy WORK so that he could sponsor the Agape to feed the workers and not be fed.
Molp-ē , , (melpō)  A.dance OR rhythmic movement with song, Od. 6.101, Il.18.606.): metaph., ou m. suriggos ekhōn the note, S.Ph.212
Aristotle Politics 8

-[1342a] it is clear that we should employ all the harmonies, yet not employ them all in the same way, but
        use the most ethical ones for education, and
        t
he active and passionate kinds for listening to when others are performing
       
(for any experience that occurs violently in some souls is found in all,
      t
hough with different degrees of intensity--for example pity and fear, and also religious excitement; for some persons are very liable to this form of emotion, and under the influence of sacred music we see these people,  when they use tunes that violently arouse the soul being thrown into a state as if they had received medicinal treatment and taken a purge;


You will find no exception to the recored fact: those who use any musical forms intend to hurt, destroy and fleece the lambs.

The speakers, singers and instrument players in Revelation 18 are called sorcerers: the "pharmakon" words identify the original Babylon mother of harlots.  The sounds of music is the sound of God abandoning a church and driving them into hell (Isaiah 30). In Revelation it is the sound of the lamps or seven spirits of Divine knowledge being removed: the SIGN is used of "striking the flag in the ekklesia." They too will be cast alive into the lake of fire. That is the predestinated DESTINY of those who use witchcraft or sorcery to deliberate hurt God's people and "make them dumb before the slaughter..

-(1342b)
for the Phrygian mode has the same effect among harmonies as the flute among instruments--both are violently exciting and emotional.

This is shown by poetry; for all Bacchiac versification and all movement of that sort (Or perhaps bakcheia and kinêsis denote bodily movement accompanying the song; or they may denote the emotional frenzy expressed and stimulated by it. The dithyramb was a form of poetry of this class, originally celebrating the birth of Dionysus. Philoxenus, one of the most famous dithyrambic poets, 435-380 B.C., lived at Athens, and later at the court of Dionysius of Syracuse.) belongs particularly to the flute among the instruments, and these meters find their suitable accompaniment in tunes in the Phrygian mode among the harmonies: for example the dithyramb is admittedly held to be a Phrygian meter, and the experts on this subject adduce many instances to prove this.

"Any object so sacrificed or devoted to the Lord could not be redeemed (Num. 18:14; Lev. 27:28, 29); and hence the idea of exterminating was connected with the word. The Hebrew verb (haram) is frequently used of the extermination of idolatrous nations. It had a wide range of application. The anathema or herem was a person or thing irrevocably devoted to God (Lev. 27:21, 28); and "none devoted shall be ransomed. He shall surely be put to death" (27:29). The Hebrew word therefore carried the idea of devoted to destruction (Num. 21:2, 3; Josh. 6:17); and hence a majority of scholars have treated the word anathema similarly, generally as meaning a thing accursed. For example, in Deut. 7:26 an idol is called a herem = anathema, understood to mean a thing accursed...If any one preached another gospel, the apostle says, "let him be accursed" (Galatians 1:8,9); i.e., let his conduct in so doing be accounted accursed.  Easton’s Bible Dictionary
THE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST PROPHESIED BY THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST IN THE PROPHETS

Proof that a person cannot preach the Good News Jesus Brought:

Matt. 11:25 At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth,
        because thou hast HID these things from the wise and prudent,
        and hast revealed th
em unto babes.
The wise are the "doctors of the Law" and the "crooked race" pointing to the skolion musicians in the symposium
Sophos A. skilled in any handicraft or art, clever mantisId.Th.382; “oiōnothetas  Interpreter of signs.
poets and musicians, Pi.O.1.9, P.1.42, 3.113; en kithara s. E.IT1238 (lyr.), cf. Ar.Ra.896

Sophizo practise an art, Thgn.19, IG12.678; play subtle tricks, deal subtly, etc.; ouden sophizomestha toisi daimosi we use no subtleties in dealing with the gods, E.Ba.200;

Sophia , Ion. -, h(, prop. A. cleverness or skill in handicraft and art, as in carpentry in music and singing, tekhnē kai s. h.Merc.483, cf. 511; in poetry, Sol.13.52, Pi.O.1.117, Ar.Ra.882, X.An.1.2.8,

Sophistes (Latin) A. master of one's craft, adept, expert, of diviners, Hdt.2.49;
of poets, “meletan sophistais prosbalonPi.I.5(4).28,
of musicians, “sophistēs . . parapaiōn khelun
with modal words added, “hoi s. tōn hierōn melōn” Making Melody in a holy place proves that God is HIDING the gospel of REST.
Melos sp. musical member, phrase: hence, song, strain
2. music to which a song is set, tune, Arist.Po.1450a14; opposite rhuthmos, metron, Pl.Grg. 502c; opp. rhuthmos, rhēma, Id.Lg.656c;
melody of an instrument, “phormigx d' au phtheggoith' hieron m. ēde kai aulos
3. later of the rhētores, Professors of Rhetoric, and prose writers of the Empire
II.
from late v B.C., a Sophist, i.e. one who gave lessons in grammar, rhetoric, politics, mathematics, for money, such as Prodicus, Gorgias, Protagoras
Matt. 11:26 Even so, Father: for so it seemed good in thy sight.
Matt. 11:27 All things are delivered
        unto me of my Father:
        and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father;
        neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son,
        and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.


YOU CAN GO AND LISTEN TO THE SPEAKERS AND MUSICIANS AND BE ENSLAVED.


Or, you can "go outside the camp" and suffer reproaches and be taught by Jesus Christ through His Word.

THE PURPOSE DRIVEN GOSPEL.  Jesus gives APT elders only to "teach that which has been taught." Their first duty is to cast out the cunning craftsmen or SOPHISTS because in Ephesians 4 Jesus warns THEY LIE IN WAIT TO DECEIVE.

Matt. 11:28 Come unto me,
        all ye that labour
        and are heavy laden,
        and I will give you rest.

THE LADED BURDENS: Religious music and "collecting taxes not in time of war."

Matt. 11:29 Take my yoke upon you,
        and learn of me;  
        for I am meek and lowly in heart:
        and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
Matt. 11:30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.
A burden is:
Massa (h4853) mas-saw'; from 5375; a burden; spec. tribute, or (abstr.) porterage; fig. an utterance, chiefly a doom, espec. singing; mental, desire: - burden, carry away, prophecy, * they set, song, tribute.

epōd-os , on, (epadō A. singing to or over, using songs or charms to heal wounds, “epōdoi muthoiPl.Lg.903b.
b.
Subst., enchanter,e. kai goēsE.Hipp. 1038 (but “goēs e.Ba.234): c. gen., a charm for or against,ethusen hautou paida epōdon Thrēkiōn aēmatōnA.Ag.1418 ; e. tōn toioutōn one to charm away such fears, Pl.Phd.78a.
2.
epōdos, ho, verse or passage returning at intervals, in Alcaics and Sapphics, D.H.Comp.19 ; chorus, burden, refrain, Ph. 1.312 : metaph., ho koinos hapasēs adoleskhias e. the 'old story', Plu.2.507e.

MARK of predestined: Pattern from the Church of Christ in the wilderness onward:
Acts 15:21 For Moses of old time hath in every city
        them that preach him,
        being read in the synagogues every sabbath day.

Heb. 13:12 Wherefore Jesus also,
        that he might sanctify the people with his own blood,
        suffered without the gate.
Heb. 13:13 Let us go forth therefore unto him without the camp,
        bearing his reproach.

Jesus could not enter a "holy" place or house: the Levite instrument sorcerers would be EXECUTED if they entered with or without instruments.

The LOGOS is the Regulative Principle: it is opposite to rhetoric, singing, playing instruments, acting or any BODY exercise which defines LEGALISM

Matthew 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying,
        All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
Matthew 28:19 Go [IMPERATIVE] ye therefore,
        and teach all nations,
        baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Collecting masses to a "worship service" devoted to performance preaching, singing, playing instruments or acting is a DIRECT VIOLATION by those who are not devoted to GOING.

-Por-euō , fut. I. Act., make to go, carry, convey, by land or water
2. of things, bring, carry, FURNISH “epistolas patriS.OC1602

The Purpose Driven Singular purpose (Ephesians 3) is to:
-Ma^thēt-euō ,  A.to be pupil, tini to one,  II. trans., make a disciple of, instruct, “panta ta ethnēEv.Matt.28.19, cf. Act.Ap.14.21:—Pass., Ev.Matt.13.52.

Acts 14.21  When they had preached the gospel to that city, and had made many disciples, they returned to Lystra, Iconium, and Antioch,

Matthew 13.52  He said to them, "Therefore, every scribe who has been made a disciple in the Kingdom of Heaven is like a man who is a householder, who brings out of his treasure new and old things."
THE ONLY ROLE WAS:

Matthew 28:20 Teaching them to OBSERVE all things whatsoever I have commanded you:
        and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen

The Word TEACH includes teaching anything requiring information.  When Jesus speaks He asserts: He doesn't give worms any room to wriggle

-di^daskō
have one taught or educated, especially of a father,
2. c. gen., indicate, give sign of,kheimōnos sunageiromenoio Arat.793, cf. 734.
II. abs., EXPLAIN,pōs ; didaxonA.Eu. 431; “saphōs d.Th.2.60, etc.; show by argument, PROVE,legōn didasketōX.An.5.7.11,
        Suna^geirō  gather together, assemble, to gather information

JESUS DID NOT COMMAND TEACHING A MUSICAL WORSHIP TEAM. Nor did He command that you train a CHORUS: Because music INCLUDES moving the body to the music (clapping, waving, gyrating) teaching or rehearsing a choir or musical worship team is not something God commanded to be taught.

For thus saith the Lord God; Because thou hast clapped thine hands, and stamped with the feet, and rejoiced in heart with all thy despite against the land of Israel; Eze.25:6
        Behold, therefore I will stretch out mine hand upon thee, and will deliver thee for a spoil to the heathen; and I will cut thee off from the people, and I will cause thee to perish out of the countries: I will destroy thee; and thou shalt know that I am the Lord. Eze 25:7

He did not command Didasko: III. of dithyrambic and dramatic Poets (cf. “didaskalos 11), d. dithurambon, drama, produce a piece, Hdt.1.23, 6.21; “PersasAr.Ra.1026,  didaxasthai khoron train one's own chorus,  d. pollous [Many] aulētas,

Hdt. 1.51 Moreover, Croesus sent four silver casks, which stand in the treasury of the Corinthians, and dedicated two sprinkling-vessels, one of gold, one of silver. The golden vessel bears the inscription “Given by the Lacedaemonians,” who claim it as their offering. But they are wrong,.. The figure of a boy, through whose hand the water runs, is indeed a Lacedaemonian gift; but they did not give either of the sprinkling-vessels.

1Cor. 10:6 Now these things were our examples, to the intent we should not lust after evil things, as they also lusted.
1Cor. 10:7 Neither be ye idolaters, as were some of them; as it is written, The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play.

1 Corinthians 10.7 mēde eidōlolatrai ginesthe, kathōs tines autōn: hōsper gegraptaiEkathisen ho laos phagein kai pein, kai anestēsan paizein.”

Paizō pais  I. properly, to play like a child, to sport,  alla pepaistai metriōs hēmin, of the chorus, Ar. Th.1227.  4. play on a musical instrument, h.Ap.206: c. acc., “Pan ho kalamophthogga paizōn”   dance and sing, Pi. O.1.16.

Aristoph. Frogs 225
Rightly so, you busybody.
the Muses of the fine lyre love us
And so does horn-crested Pan, playing his reed pipe.
And the harpist Apollo delights in us as well,
On account of the reed, which as a bridge for his lyre

Apollōn
, ho, Apollo: Abaddon, Apollyon The name of a NUMBER
phorm-iktēs , ou, Dor. phorm-miktas , ho, A. lyre-player, of Orpheus, Pi.P.4.176
phorm-iktos , ē, on, A. sung TO the phormigx, kai peza kai ph. (sc. melē) S.Fr.16.

Melos
, eos, to, 2. music to which a song is set, tune, Arist.Po.1450a14;
3. melody of an instrument,phormigx d' au phtheggoith' hieron m. ēde kai aulos” ; “aulōn pamphōnon m.Pi.P.12.19;
5.  play amorously, “pros allēlousX.Smp.9.2; “
II. est, sport, Hdt.2.28, 5.4, 9.11; make fun with a person,
"The triumphal hymn of Moses had unquestionably a religious character about it; but the employment of music in religious services, though idolatrous, is more distinctly marked in the festivities which attended the erection of the golden calf." (Smith's Bible Dictionary, Music, p. 589).
1Cor. 10:8 Neither let us commit fornication, as some of them committed, and fell in one day three and twenty thousand.
1Cor. 10:9 Neither let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed of serpents.
1Cor. 10:10 Neither murmur ye, as some of them also murmured, and were destroyed of the destroyer.
1Cor. 10:11 Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.
1Cor. 10:12 Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.
Because David Young and the elders claim that God COMMANDED RISING UP TO PLAY it might be logical that God has turned him/them over to worship the starry host and sentenced them back to Babylon (see Acts 7)

God did not PREDESTINATE David Young to try to become the Alpha Male of a cult. The Elders in Ephesians 4 if they are APT and working for Christ are to EJECT the cunning craftsmen or Sophists (rhetoricians, singers, instrument players) because THEY LIE IN WAIT TO DECEIVE.
God FOREKNEW or KNEW BEFORE a tiny remnant of faithful Jews who had not bowed to Baal (that instrumental mark).
God PRESERVED a tiny remnant perhaps the 120 still alive when Messiah came as an offering to God.
God PREPLANNED but did not PREPROGRAM this tiny LITTLE FLOCK would accept Jesus as the Messiah and be marked by the LOGOS, word or God's Regulative Principle for those "lost spirits" the evangelist--if he is an evangelist-is SENT OUT to speak the words of the Invitation to COME OUT OF THE WORLD seen in religious rituals known as legalism.
God did not PREASSIGN heaven or hell to a single person and to say so is blasphemy and shows hate for God and HIS Word.

The concept of predestination derives from the dogma of ORIGINAL SIN. However, Satan tempted Eve and sin was introduced into the WORLD.  EVE did not carry a deadly virus worse than HIV which people contract if their mother had sex other than to procreate.

Many people are called RIGHTEOUS after the Garden of Eden and they were not "sprinkled" when infants and did not fail to be inclucated by some religious institution.

To mark the vile absurdity of predestination we might note that:

There is not a remote hint that God every randomly selected any named person to be evil or go to hell.
There is 100% Biblical evidence (if you care) to show that there is not a single individual who is not evil because they CHOSE to be evil.
The people who are doomed because of their own choice are always NATIONS but never individuals.
The New Testament makes it clear that it is NATIONS who are chosen.

PERHAPS THESE ARE THE SUPERNATURAL MARKS OF THOSE PREDESTINATED TO BE CAST ALIVE INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE: WHO CAN TELL?

Rather than speaking about Pool Tables and God's making dogmatically certain that David Young is going into the side pocket, take a look at Bible Speak

God KNEW BEFORE the Jews: Paul does not say that God foreknew individuals and predestinated them to be saved or lost.

God Knew Before the small remnant of Jews who had not bowed to Baal.
God pre-purposed that the Gentiles would hear the same gospel.
God did not control the response of anyone to the gospel of Rest from rituals

God's right to pick certain people to carry out His will with His validation, does not mean that they were predestinated to heaven.

There is ONE GOD THE FATHER and ONE Mediator between Man and God: the MAN Jesus Christ. Jesus is now in His GLORIFIED state because He OBEYED the Father and spoke only what the Father breathed (spirit) into him.  Jesus knows the MIND OF OUR SPIRIT:

Rom. 8:27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit,
        because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
Rom. 8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God,
        to them who are the called according to his purpose.

John 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him:
        and I will raise him up at the last day.
John 6:45 It is written in the prophets,
        And they shall be
        Every man therefore that hath heard,
        and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.
John 6:46 Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father.
John 6:47 Verily, verily, I say unto you,
         He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.
John 6:48 I am that bread of life.

If you violate Christ in Isaiah 58 and speak your own words you are NOT called or chosen.

John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth;
        the flesh profiteth nothing:
        the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life

Rom. 8:29 For whom he did foreknow,
        he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son,
        that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

God KNEW BEFORE the Jews: His purpose which was PRE was that the tiny remnant would be CONFORMED to the image of Jesus Christ.


Rom. 8:30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
Rom. 8:31 What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?
Rom. 8:32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?
Rom. 8:33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God’s elect? It is God that justifieth.
Rom. 8:34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
Rom. 8:35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
Rom. 8:36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
Rom. 8:37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.

THE HUMAN SPIRIT GROANS WITHIN US

Rom. 8:27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit,
        because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

IF A CHILD DIES IT IS NOT GOD'S WILL.  God does not create evil.  The verse does not say that all events will be proven GOOD.  If a wife loses a husband there is nothing good that can be caused by that death. Those who suffer most often turn against God.  It rains on the just and unjust.

Romans 8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God,
            to them who are the called according to his purpose.
Rom. 8:28 ASVAnd we know that to them that love God all things work together for good, even to them that are called according to his purpose.

When Jesus promised another or different Comforter, He said I WILL COME TO you. John gives us the NAME of the Holy Spirit Comforter:

1John 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not.
        And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
1John 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only,
        but also for the sins of the whole world.

God is not evil: His will or wish is that ALL be saved.  How evil then to say that God MANUFACTURED little girls just to send them to hell.  God's PURPOSE is that we keep HIS commandments. David Young says that the PROOF of our predestination is that we have a holy spirit person living inside and the proof is that we keep on struggling against sin.

John 14:22 Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot,
        Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world?
John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him,
        If a man love me, he will keep my WORDS:
        and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him,
        nd make our abode with him.
John 14:24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings:
        and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father’s which sent me.

John 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love;
        even as I have kept my Father’s commandments, and abide in his love.
John 15:14 Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you.


John 15:18 If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.
John 15:19 If ye were OF the world, the world would love his own:
        but because ye are not of the world,
        but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
John 15:20 Remember the word that I said unto you,
        The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have

1John 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
1John 2:4 He that saith, I know him,
        and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
1John 2:5 But whoso keepeth his WORD, in him verily is the love of God perfected:
        hereby know we that we are in him.
1John 2:6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.

GOD FORKNEW BEFORE THE TINY REMNANT OF JEWS and not David Young.

Is. 49:1 Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far;
        The LORD hath called me from the womb;
        from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name.
Is. 49:2 And he hath made my mouth like a sharp sword; 
        in the shadow of his hand hath he hid me,
        and made me a polished shaft;
        in his quiver hath he hid me;
Is. 49:3 And said unto me, Thou art my servant, O Israel, in whom I will be glorified.

Is. 49:4 Then I said, I have laboured in vain, I have spent my strength for nought, and in vain:
        yet surely my judgment is with the LORD, and my work with my God.
Is. 49:5 And now, saith the LORD that formed me from the womb to be his servant,
        to bring Jacob again to him,
        Though Israel be not gathered, yet shall I be glorious in the eyes of the LORD,
        and my God shall be my strength.

Notice the two GROUPS which is always the meaning of PREDESTINATED purpose.

And he said, It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob,
........[1] and to restore the preserved of Israel:
........[2] I will also give thee for a light to the Gentiles,
........[3] that thou mayest be my salvation unto the end of the earth. Isa 49:6

Salvation is Yeshuwah! God chooses those who DO NOT repudiate Him by THEIR OWN SINS.

Thus saith the Lord, the Redeemer of Israel, and his Holy One,
        to him whom
man despiseth,
        to him whom the
nation abhorreth,
        to a servant of rulers, Kings shall see and arise, princes also shall worship,
        because of the Lord that is faithful, and the Holy One of Israel,
        and he shall
choose thee. Isa 49:7

H977 bâchar baw-khar' A primitive root; properly to try, that is, (by implication) select: acceptable, appoint, choose (choice), excellent, join, be rather, require.

  1. to choose, elect, decide for
    1. (Qal) to choose
    2. (Niphal) to be chosen
    3. (Pual) to be chosen, selected
KJV (172) - acceptable, 1; appoint, 1; choice, 6; choose, 77; choose...out, 5; chosen, 77; chosen men, 1; excellent, 1; not translated, 1; rather, 1; require, 1;
NAS (169) - choice, 6; choicest, 2; choose, 40; chooses, 22; choosing, 1; chose, 21; chosen, 67; desired, 2; men, 1; preferred, 1; require, 1; select, 1; selected, 1; selected from the choice, 1; selects, 1; tested, 1;

Isa 41:8 - But thou, Israel, art my servant, Jacob whomI have chosen, the seed of Abraham my friend.
Isa 41:9 - Thou whomI have taken from the ends of the earth, and called thee from the chief men thereof, and said unto thee, Thou art my servant;I have chosen thee, and not cast thee away.
Isa 48:10 - Behold,I have refined thee, but not with silver;I have chosen thee in the furnace of affliction.

Isa 49:7 - Thus saith the LORD, the Redeemer of Israel, and his Holy One, to him whom man despiseth, to him whom the nation abhorreth, to a servant of rulers, Kings shall see and arise, princes also shall worship, because of the LORD that is faithful, and the Holy One of Israel, and he shall choose thee.
Isa 66:3 - He that killeth an ox is as if he slew a man; he that sacrificeth a lamb, as if he cut off a dog's neck; he that offereth an oblation, as if he offered swine's blood; he that burneth incense, as if he blessed an idol. Yea, they have chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth in their abominations.

Isa 66:4 - I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them; because whenI called, none did answer; whenI spake, they did not hear: but they did evil before mine eyes, and chose that in whichI delighted not.

Thus saith the Lord, In an acceptable time have I heard thee, and in a day of salvation have I helped thee:
........ .[1] and I will preserve thee,
........ .[2] and give thee for a covenant of the people,
........ .[3] to establish the earth, to cause to
................inherit the desolate heritages; Isa 49:8

Paul's next statement in Romans 8:29 is:

David Young and the North Boulevard Elders say that God KNEW from eternity past that David Young was going to be a preacher. Unfortunately God did not GIFT a located preacher's ROLE and he OUTLAWED any DOLE for him. Because David etal pervert the Word of God almost totally, we might ask whether David has a precast CROWN waiting for him or a LAKE OF FIRE Jesus told John was reserved for the preachers, singers and instrument players in Revelation 18 f.

For whom he did foreknow, (God "knew before" the Jews:)

But I say, Did not Israel know? First Moses saith, I will provoke you to jealousy by them that are no people, and by a foolish nation I will anger you. Rom 10:19

But Esaias is very bold, and saith, I was found of them that sought me not; I was made manifest unto them that asked not after me. Rom 10:20

But to Israel he saith, All day long I have stretched forth my hands unto a disobedient and gainsaying people. Rom 10:21

Israel was chosen for a purpose but that purpose was not predestination to salvation which could not be lost.  In Romans 9 Paul disabuses the Jews of their claim to predestination because of their musical idolatry of the trinity at Mount Sinai.

I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. Rom 11:1

God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel, saying, Romans 11:2

Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life. Romans 11:3

But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal. Rom 11:4

There is no hint that God PREDESTINATED or prevented the seven thousand men from bowing to Baal: those who refused were RESERVED as faithful.

Yet I have left me seven thousand in Israel, all the knees which have not bowed unto Baal, and every mouth which hath not kissed him. 1 Kings 19:18

Shaar (h7604) shaw-ar'; a prim. root; prop. to swell up, i. e. be (caus. make) redundant: - leave, (be) left, let, remain, remnant, reserve, the rest.

WHAT IS THE MARK OF BOWING TO IDOLS: remember that the Jacob-cursed and God-abandoned Levites made instrumental NOISE which warned the civil-military-clergy that they must bow or worship "the starry host." And Godly person present was commanded to be EXECUTED.  Amos and Stephen give us the NAMES of some of the "gods" worshipped by the Jews and used as a pattern by David Young and the Elders at the Northwest Church of Christ in Murfreesboro.

THE JEWS SLAUGHTERING INNOCENT ANIMALS GOD DID NOT COMMAND

2Chr. 29:26 And the Levites stood with the instruments of David, and the priests with the trumpets.
2Chr. 29:27 And Hezekiah commanded to offer the burnt offering upon the altar. And when the burnt offering began, the song of the LORD began also with the trumpets, and with the instruments ordained by David king of Israel.
2Chr. 29:28 And all the congregation worshipped, and the singers sang, and the trumpeters sounded: and all this continued until the burnt offering was finished.
2Chr. 29:29 And when they had made an end of offering, the king and all that were present with him bowed themselves, and worshipped.

In one form or another Baal or the ELOHIM was the god of all ancient and modern pagans who bow or submit themselves to instrumental sounds to silence the mouth of God.

Dan. 3:5 That at what time ye hear the sound of the cornet, flute, harp, sackbut, psaltery, dulcimer, and all kinds of musick, ye fall down and worship the golden image that Nebuchadnezzar the king hath set up:
Dan. 3:7 Therefore at that time, when all the people heard the sound of the cornet, flute, harp, sackbut, psaltery, and all kinds of musick, all the people, the nations, and the languages, fell down and worshipped the golden image that Nebuchadnezzar the king had set up.
Dan. 3:10 Thou, O king, hast made a decree, that every man that shall hear the sound of the cornet, flute, harp, sackbut, psaltery, and dulcimer, and all kinds of musick, shall fall down and worship the golden image:
Dan. 3:15 Now if ye be ready that at what time ye hear the sound of the cornet, flute, harp, sackbut, psaltery, and dulcimer, and all kinds of musick, ye fall down and worship the image which I have made; well: but if ye worship not, ye shall be cast the same hour into the midst of a burning fiery furnace; and who is that God that shall deliver you out of my hands?

God KNEW ALL of Israel before. However, he RESERVED only the remnant BECAUSE they had neither bowed nor kissed Baal.

Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace. Rom 11:5

The remnant when Jesus came were not RESERVED because they keep the Law of Moses. God extended grace because people obeyed Him because obedience is NOT a work of the Law or of human merit.

And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work. Rom 11:6

What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for;

but the election hath obtained it,
and the
rest were blinded Rom 11:7

Paul in 2 Corinthians 3 says that they were BLINDED because they did not obey the Words of God. Even still they would not be able to read the Old Testament until they TURNED to Christ Who IS that SPIRIT.

(According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto this day. Rom 11:8

Jesus points to the Pharisees and Isaiah 29 as well as Ezekiel 33 to show that it was MUSICAL rituals which had starved the people to death.

Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men: Isa 29:13

Therefore, behold, I will proceed to do a marvellous work among this people, even a marvellous work and a wonder: for the wisdom of their wise men shall perish, and the understanding of their prudent men shall be hid. Isa 29:14

And David saith, Let their table be made a snare, and a trap, and a stumblingblock, and a recompence unto them: Rom 11:9

Let their eyes be darkened, that they may not see, and bow down their back alway. Rom 11:10

Isay then, Have they stumbled that they should fall?

God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy. Rom 11:11

Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness? Rom 11:12

For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office: Rom 11:13

If by any means I may provoke to emulation them which are my flesh, and might save some of them. Rom 11:14

For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead? Rom 11:15

For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate
        to be conformed to the image of his Son,
        that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. Ro.8:29

Proginosko (g4267) prog-in-oce'-ko; from 4253 and 1097; to know beforehand, i.e. foresee: - foreknow (ordain), know (before).

Which knew me from the beginning, if they would testify, that after the most straitest sect of our religion I lived a Pharisee. Ac.26:5

Jeremiah 1:5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee;
        and before thou camest forth out of the womb
        I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations. [Gentiles]
Jeremiah 1:6 Then said I, Ah, Lord GOD! behold, I cannot speak: for I am a child.
Jeremiah 1:7 But the LORD said unto me, Say not, I am a child:
        for thou shalt go to all that I shall send thee,
        and whatsoever I command thee thou shalt speak.

CONTRADICTING DAVID YOUNG AND THE NORTHWEST CHURCH OF CHRIST

Acts 15:14 Simeon hath declared how God at the first did visit the Gentiles,
        to take out of them a people for his name.
Acts 15:15 And to this agree the words of the prophets; as it is written,
Acts 15:16 After this I will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David, [tent]
        which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up:

DAVID YOUNG SAYS THAT WE DON'T SEEK OR PICK GOD: HE PICKS US.
Acts 15:17 That the residue of men might seek after the Lord,
        and all the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called, saith the Lord, 
        who doeth all these things.
Acts 15:18 Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world.

ISN'T THE SPIRIT AND PAUL CALLED IDIOTS IF THE PREDESTINATED PEOPLE HAVE NO CHOICE

Heb. 10:28 He that despised Moses’ law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
Heb. 10:29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy,
        who hath trodden under foot the Son of God,
        and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing,
        and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?


God does not pour out His wrath (the performance orgy) because He decided from eternity past that these people had no choice?

Heb. 10:30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me,
        I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.
Heb. 10:31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
Heb. 10:32 But call to remembrance the former days, in which, after ye were illuminated, ye endured a great fight of afflictions;
Heb. 10:33 Partly, whilst ye were made a gazingstock both by reproaches and afflictions; and partly, whilst ye became companions of them that were so used.
Heb. 10:34 For ye had compassion of me in my bonds, and took joyfully the spoiling of your goods, knowing in yourselves that ye have in heaven a better and an enduring substance.
Heb. 10:35 Cast not away therefore your confidence, which hath great recompence of reward.
Heb. 10:36 For ye have need of patience,
        that, after ye have done the will of God,
        ye might receive the promise.
Heb. 10:37 For yet a little while, and he that shall come will come, and will not tarry.
Heb. 10:38 Now the just shall live by faith:
        but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him.
Heb. 10:39 But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition;
        but of them that believe to the saving of the soul.


Contrary to the hyper-Calvinists, faith is not a GIFT which only the predestinated receive.

Heb. 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
Heb. 11:2 For by it the elders obtained a good report.
Heb. 11:3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the WORD of God,
        so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
Heb. 11:4 By faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain,
        by which he obtained witness that he was righteous,
        God testifying of his gifts: and by it he being dead yet speaketh.
Heb. 11:5 By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.

Heb. 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him:
        for he that cometh to God must believe that he is,
        and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.


EVERYTHING GOD WORKS IS FOR MAN'S GOOD: if God hand picked certain men to carry out His will that does not mean that they were PREDESTINATED or hand picked from all eternity. If God PRESERVED Pharoah or KEPT HIM ALIVE God Used him for the GOOD of the Israelites. God did not sentence Pharoah to burn in hell just to prove that God is the BIG MAN ON THE BLOCK.

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