Douglas A Foster How Instrumental Music Worship Became Red Flag Issue

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It began in heaven. Speaking of Theologians WAGED to sow massive discord and not Biblical literate.

Ezekiel 28:2 Son of man, say unto the prince of TYRUS, Thus saith the Lord God; Because thine heart is lifted up, and thou hast said, I am a God, I sit in the seat of God, in the midst of the seas; yet thou art a man, and not God, though thou set thine heart as the heart of God:

Ezekiel 28:3 Behold, thou art wiser than Daniel; there is no secret that they can hide from thee:
Ezekiel 28:4
With thy wisdom and with thine understanding thou hast gotten thee riches, and hast gotten gold and silver into thy treasures:

săpĭentĭa  Wisdom, = sophia (Of eloquence:
studia sapientiae,Tac. A. 14, 56: “doctores sapientiae,philosophers,
sophia , Ion. -, , prop. A.cleverness or skill in handicraft and art
in music and singing, tekhnē kai s. h.Merc.483, cf. 511; in poetry, Sol.13.52, Pi.O.1.117, Ar.Ra.882, X.An.1.2.8, in divination, S.OT 502also, cunning, shrewdness, craft, Hdt.1.68,

Ezekiel 28:5 By thy great wisdom and by thy TRAFFICK hast thou increased thy riches,
        and thine heart is LIFTED up because of thy riches:

nĕgōtĭātĭo (nĕgōc- ), ōnis, f. negotior,
I.a doing business by the wholesale, wholesale business, banking business; also in gen., any business or traffic (class.): reliquiae Asiaticae negotiationis,Cic. Fam. 6, 8, 2;13, 66, 2: negotiationes vel privato pudendae,Suet. Vesp. 16; Plin. 6, 28, 32, § 157: “pecuaria,Col. 8, 1, 1: “sagaria et lintearia,Dig. 14, 4, 5: “cum quis tabernae aut cuilibet negotiationi filium servumve ... praeposuerit,Gai. Inst. 4, 71: “argenti,Vulg. Prov. 3, 14: “nolite facere domum Patris mei domum negotiationis,ib. Joan. 2, 16.

John 2.16 To those who sold the doves, he said, "Take these things out of here! Don't make my Father's house a marketplace!" [oikon emporiou.]

Eek. 28:11 Moreover the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
Ezek. 28:12 Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, [Lucifer, Apollyon]
        and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD;
        Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.
Ezek. 28:13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God;
        every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond,
        the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold:
        the WORKMANSHIP [employment never servile or work]
        of thy TABRETS (cf Topheth]  and of thy PIPES was prepared in thee
        in the day that thou wast created. [bara cast down]
Ezek. 28:14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth;
        and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God;
        thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.
Ezek. 28:15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day
        that thou wast created,
        till iniquity was found in thee.
Ezek. 28:16 By the MULTITUDE of thy MERCHANDISE
        they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned:
        therefore I will cast thee as PROFANE out of the MOUNTAIN of God:
        and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.

2490. חָלַ chalal, khaw-lal´; a primitive root (compare 2470); properly, to bore, i.e. (by implication) to wound, to dissolve; figuratively, to profane (a person, place or thing), to break (one’s word), to begin (as if by an “opening wedge”); denom. (from 2485) to play (the flute):—begin (x men began), defile, x break, defile, x eat (as common things), x first, x gather the grape thereof, x take inheritance, PIPE, player on INSTRUMENTS, pollute, (cast as) profane (self), PROSTITUTE, slay (slain), sorrow, stain, wound.

Psa. 24:3  Who shall ascend into the hill of the LORD? or who shall stand in his holy place?
Psa. 24:4 He that hath clean hands, and a pure heart; who hath not lifted up his soul unto vanity, nor sworn deceitfully.
Psa. 24:5 He shall receive the blessing from the LORD, and righteousness from the God of his salvation.
Ezekiel 28:6 Therefore thus saith the Lord God; Because thou hast set thine heart AS the HEART of God;
Ezekiel 28:7 
Behold, therefore I will bring STRANGERS upon thee, the terrible of the nations: and they shall draw their swords against the beauty of thy wisdom, and they shall defile thy BRIGHTNESS.

WHY GODLY MEMBERS SHOW UP AS EMPTY PEWS WHEN THE "PROGRESSIVE" PERSONA TURNS THEIR STOMACH.

Isaiah 3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.
Isaiah 3:4 et dabo pueros principes eorum et effeminati dominabuntur eis

        Dominabuntur Ruler,
        MARK Women or the Effeminate as  oratio, an absolute ruler: “cum dominante sermones,
       
MARK Women or effeminate who are consilium the person who forms the purpose, 
                MARK Women or the effeminate who Teach Over  aedĭfĭco  in a religious sense,
                 to build up, instruct, edify.

Isaiah 3:12 As for my people, children are their oppressors, and WOMEN RULE OVER THEM
        O my people,
they that lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths.

Mŭlĭer II  Transf., as a term of reproach, a woman, i. e. a coward, poltroon: “non me arbitratur militem, sed mulierem,Plaut. Bacch. 4, 8, 4.
arbĭtror to make a decision, give judgment or sentence: OR mŭlĭĕro, to make womanish, render effeminate

Boys: -Effeminoto make womanish, effeminate, to enervate: “fortitudinis praeceptailla elocutio
res ipsas effeminat,
”  “mollis, luxuriosus, dissolutus): ne quid effeminatum aut molle sit,
Cic. Off. 1, 35, 129
; cf. id. Tusc. 4, 30: “intolerabile est servire impuro, impudico, effeminato, 
illa elocutio res ipsas effeminat,Quint. 8 prooëm. § 20. ēlŏcūtĭo  I. Transf., in rhet. lang., oratorical delivery, elocution;furialis illa vox, religiosis altaribus effeminata,that submits to unnatural lust: “pathicus,Suet. Aug. 68;
Cic. Planc. 35.86 When no one knew what were the feelings of those men who by means of their armies, and their arms, and their riches, were the most powerful men in the state, then that voice,    
    rendered insane
by its infamous debaucheries,

    made effeminate by its attendance on holy altars,
    kept crying out in a most ferocious manner that both these men
         and the consuls were acting in concert with him.
Needy men were armed against the rich,  abandoned men against the good, slaves against their masters.
Rĕlĭgĭōsus Eccl. Lat., of or belonging to the clergy, clerical (opp. saecularis)
Per-sŏno    A. To sound through and through, to resound: “cum domus cantu et cymbalis personaret,Cic. Pis. 10, 22: “ut cotidiano cantu vocum et nervorum et tibiarum nocturnisque conviviis tota vicinitas personet,
A.  To fill with sound or noise, to make resound
B.  To make a sound on a musical instrument, to sound, play: “citharā Iopas Personat,cymbalis, Vulg. 1 Par. 16, 5: buccinis, 
C. To sound or blow upon an instrument (post-class.): “personavit classicum,gave the signal for attack,
        Histrio, stage-player, actor, mimus, II. Transf., a boaster: histrionis est parvam rem attollere,
                ragoediarum histrionis,  Hilarus comoediarum histrio,

        Scaena,
1. Of a place like a scene of a theatreVerg. A. 1, 164.—, display of eloquence.
Outlawed in Romans 15 so that everyone can "use one mind and one mouth" to teach "that which is written for our learning or Scripture.
Isaiah 3:5 And the people shall be oppressed, every one by another,
   and every one by his neighbour:
   the child shall behave himself proudly against the ancient, and the base against the honourable.

Tŭmultŭor , Esp. of ORATOLRY, to storm, rant, talk at random, etc , ornate
tumultuari Gallias comperit,to be in an uproar, that there is a tumult or disturbance in the camp,

SORCERERS, WITCHES
Per-turbo clamore perturbari  confused visions, perverted truths: reliquos
haec te vox non perculit? non perturbavit?
vox , B. Speech, language, in gen., = sermo “siderā excantata voce Thessalā, incantation, id. Epod. 5,
with charms, incantations, id. Epod. 17, 78; so, “sacrae,

Isaiah 23:13 Behold the land of the Chaldeans; this people was not, till the Assyrian founded it
         or them that dwell in the wilderness: they set up the towers thereof,
        they raised up the palaces thereof; and he brought it to ruin.

Isaiah 23:14 Howl, ye ships of Tarshish: for your strength is laid waste.
Isaiah 23:15 And it shall come to pass in that day,
        that Tyre shall be forgotten seventy years, according to the days of one king:
        after the end of seventy years shall Tyre SING AS A HARLOT
                    "Take an [1] harp, go about the city, thou harlot that hast been forgotten;
                make sweet
[2] melody, [2] sing many songs, that thou mayest be remembered". Isaiah 23:16
cantĭcum , i, n. cantus. I.  \ Lit., a song in the Roman comedy, sung by one person, and accompanied by music and dancing; a monody
desaltare,Suet. Calig. 54: “histrio in cantico quodam  A magic formula, incantation
Isaiah 23:17 And it shall come to pass after the end of seventy years, [Like Judah]
        that the LORD will visit Tyre, and she shall turn to her hire,
        and shall commit fornication with all the kingdoms of the world upon the face of the earth.
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Hdt. 1.105 From there they marched against Egypt: and when they were in the part of Syria called Palestine, Psammetichus king of Egypt met them and persuaded them with gifts and prayers to come no further. [2] So they turned back, and when they came on their way to the city of Ascalon in Syria, most of the Scythians passed by and did no harm, but a few remained behind and plundered the temple of Heavenly Aphrodite.1 [3] This temple, I discover from making inquiry, is the oldest of all the temples of the goddess, for the temple in Cyprus was founded from it, as the Cyprians themselves say; and the temple on Cythera was founded by Phoenicians from this same land of Syria. [4] But the Scythians who pillaged the temple, and all their descendants after them, were afflicted by the goddess with the “female” sickness: and so the Scythians say that they are afflicted as a consequence of this and also that those who visit Scythian territory see among them the condition of those whom the Scythians call “Hermaphrodites”.2

1 The great goddess (Mother of Heaven and Earth) worshipped by Eastern nations under various names—Mylitta in Assyria, Astarte in Phoenicia: called Heavenly Aphrodite, or simply the Heavenly One, by the Greeks.

2 The derivation of this word is uncertain; it is agreed that the disease was a loss of virility. In Hdt. 4.67 enarēs = androgonos.

andro-gonos , on, A.begetting men, hēmera a. a day favourable for begetting (or for the birth of) male children, Hes. Op.783,788.


Hes. WD 783 785] Nor is the first sixth a fit day for a girl to be born, but a kindly for gelding kids and sheep and for fencing in a sheep cote. It is favorable for the birth of a boy, but such will be fond of sharp speech, lies, cunning words, and stealthy conversation.

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Grant, then, forgiveness to the Lydians, and to
make sure of their never rebelling against thee, or alarming thee more,
send and
forbid them to keep any weapons of war, command them to wear tunics under their cloaks, and to put buskins upon their legs,
..........and make them bring up their sons to cithern-playing (Kitharizein), singing (psallein),
..........and shop-keeping (Hucksterism). 
So wilt thou soon see them become WOMEN instead of men,
and there will be no more fear of their revolting from thee."

-[4] Ludoisi de sungnômên echôn tade autoisi epitaxon, hôs mête aposteôsi mête deinoi toi eôsi: apeipe men sphi pempsas hopla arêia mê ektêsthai, keleue de spheas kithônas -[khiton  David's garment] te hupodunein toisi heimasi kai kothornous hupodeesthai, proeipe d' autoisi -kitharizein te kai psallein kai kapêleuein [prostitutes, petty trade, playing tricks, corrupting] paideuein tous paidas. kai tacheôs spheas ô basileu gunaikas ant' andrôn opseai gegonotas, hôste ouden deinoi toi esontai mê aposteôsi."

The word kitharizo means to PLAY THE CITHARA and does not include singing.

-Kitharizô 1 [kitharis] to play the cithara, phormingi [Apollo] kitharize Il., Hes.; lurêi eraton kitharizôn Hhymn. (so that there can have been no great difference between the kithara, lura, and phorminx ); kitharizein ouk epistatai, of an uneducated person,

-Kithar-isis , eôs, hê, playing on the cithara, Pl.Prt.325e; k. psilê, i.e. without the voice, Id.Lg.669e, cf. Pae.Delph.15; aulêsis kai k. Phld.Mus.p.23 K.

-Arassô ,of any violent impact, with collat. notion of rattling, clanging, as of horses, hoplais, pound in a mortar, strike with a shower of stones.
a). kitharēn strike the lyre, Orph.A.382; humnon, melos, etc., Nonn.D.1.15,440, etc.
2. c. dat. modi, arassein tina oneidesi, kakois, assail with reproaches or threats,
II. Pass., to be dashed against, dash one against the other
Pound in a mortar, “holmō a.Nic. Th.508

Therefore, it could not be redundant. The word psallo means to PLUCK or to make a noise by a harp string or bow string. It later came to mean JUST SING. Without the word KITHARIZEIN Heredodus would have had to used PSALLO and then define WHAT is to be plucked.

-Ovid Elegy 2.6: On the Death of His Mistress's Parrot. By Creech.

Alas! poor Poll, my Indian talker, dies!
Go, birds, and celebrate his obsequies;
Go, birds, and beat your breasts, your faces tear,
And pluck your gaudy plumes instead of hair;
Let
doleful tunes the frighted forest wound,
And your sad notes supply the trumpet's sound.
Why, Philomel, dost mourn the
Thracian rage?


In Douglas A  Foster's arena, Instrumental noise was a red flag among the Disciples of Christ - Christian Denomination in 1885 when those who had divided THAT sect when, in desperation, men decided that the Greek word "Psallo" actually commanded the use of Instruments with harsh judgement when they were able to add instruments into the historic Church of Christ.  The prophecy for the end time begins in Revelation 17 when the ancient Babylonian mother of harlots unleashed her "lusted after fruits" as here religious craftsmen. That included singers, instrument players.

Casual Bible Readers will understand that for God's Separated people:

1. There is never a Day of WORSHIP.
2. There is never any person who is said to WORSHIP by Rhetoric (selling Jesus), forced to listen, singing, playing an instrument, acting or anything similar to the effeminate pagans who, then and now, sold sex and salvation.
3. The Church as House excludes any hired hand to replace God the Father and elders to teach that which has been taught.
4. There is no FUNDING in the Assembly of Christ because the only role is exampled by Jesus who STOOD up to read the Prophets, applied it and SAT DOWN.

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Acts 17:25 Neither is WORSHIPPED with MEN'S HANDS hands,
        as though he NEEDED any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things;

Rev. 13:12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him,
        and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to WORSHIP
        the FIRST BEAST whose deadly wound was healed.

g2323. THERAPEUO, ther-ap-yoo´-o; from the same as 2324; to wait upon menially, i.e. (figuratively) to adore (God), or (specially) to relieve (of disease): — cure, heal, worship.

-therap-ōn  henchman, attendant Mousaōn therapontes music, song stu^ger-os , Muses (Rev 18) as Apollon's Worshiip Team were known as hated prostitutes, 2. gen. hadou [ein' Aidao domoisi in the nether world, with nouns in adjectival sense, devilish, “thuousan ha. mēter'”  Erōs Aphroditēs th

thera^p-euō   to be an attendant, do service Dionuson, Mousas, E.Ba.82     daimona , etc.; “daimonaPi.P.3.109, IT1105(lyr.); th. Phoibou naous serve them, Id.Ion111 (anap.): abs., worship,

Eur. Ba. 82 Chorus     Blessed is he who, being fortunate and knowing the rites of the gods, keeps his life pure and [75] has his soul initiated into the Bacchic revels, dancing in inspired frenzy over the mountains with holy purifications, and who, revering the mysteries of great mother Kybele, [80] brandishing the thyrsos, garlanded with ivy, serves Dionysus.

Go, Bacchae, go, Bacchae, escorting the god Bromius, child of a god, [85] from the Phrygian mountains to the broad streets of Hellas—Bromius,

Mousa  II. mousa, as Appellat., music, song, “m. stugeraA.Eu.308 (anap.); “euphamosId.Supp.695 (lyr.); “kanakhan . . theias antiluron mousas
Dios aigiokhoio thugateres  [Daughters of Zeus whatever the sex]

Pind. P. 3 was stricken by the golden [10] arrows of Artemis in her bedroom and descended to the house of Hades, by the skills of Apollon. The anger of the children of Zeus is not in vain. But she made light of Apollo, in the error of her mind, and consented to another marriage without her father's knowledge, although she had before lain with Phoebus of the unshorn hair
[110] But if a god were to give me luxurious wealth, I hope that I would find lofty fame in the future. We know of Nestor and Lycian Sarpedon, whom men speak of, from melodious words which skilled craftsmen join together. Through renowned songs excellence [115] gains a long life. But few find that easy to accomplish.
thera^p-eia   I. of persons, th. tōn theōn service paid to the gods  worship of Apollo Agyieus, E.Ion187;
2. service done to gain favour, paying court,   worshipper, “ApollōnosPi.O. 3.16, cf. Pl.Phd.85a 
Mousaōn kanakhan [clanging brass, gnashing of teeth, . . theias antiluron mousas  aulōn sound of flutes, of the lyre, theias  etheiazon obtained inspiration through ritual A.to be inspired, frenzied

Apollō, Apollon was the god of MELODY: he carried the LYRE to seduce male or female. He carried the Bow to make the strings TWANG to send a SINGING arrow into male or female who did not submit.  He is the only personified SPIRITUS and He was, from Egypt onward, the Leader of the Muses.  His musical worship team were known as LOCUSTS and dirty adulteresses.

GREEK
Acts 17:25 Neither is WORSHIPPED with MEN'S HANDS hands,
        as though he NEEDED any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things;

cŏlo    to cultivate, till, tend, take care of a field, garden, a COMPOSITION.

Most freq. of the reverence and worship of the gods, and the respect paid to objects pertaining thereto, to honor, respect, revere, reverence, worship:   Of the gods: colere aliquem locum, to frequent, cherish, care for, protect, be the guardian of, said of places where they were worshipped, had temples,  carmina, id. A. A. 3, 341: “cultiores doctioresque redire,Gell. 19, 8, 1: “sermone cultissimus,Aur. Vict. Epit. 45.—Adv.: cul- , elegantly: Phoebe  [APOLLON] silvarumque potens Diana... o colendi Semper et culti,Mercurium, Caes. B. G. 6, 17: “Apollinem nimiā religione,Curt. 4, 3, 21: “Cererem secubitu, 2.  Of the honor bestowed upon men
Veneror venerari et colere deos, [ZEUS]  spectacula edentes, Venus-Lucifer 1. Act. collat, form vĕnĕro , āre: “saluto te, vicine Apollo, veneroque te, Ne, etc.,Plaut. Bacch. 2, 1, 4: “ut venerem Lucinam meam,id. Truc. 2, 5, 23.

Caes. Gal. 6.17
They worship as their divinity, Mercury in particular, and have many images of him, and regard him as the inventor of all arts, they consider him the guide of their journeys and marches, and believe him to have great influence over the acquisition of gain and mercantile transactions. Next to him they worship Apollo, and Mars, and Jupiter , and Minerva; respecting these deities they have for the most part the same belief as other nations: that Apollo averts diseases, that Minerva imparts the invention of manufactures, that Jupiter possesses the sovereignty of the heavenly powers; that Mars presides over wars. To

THE ANTETHESIS OF CHRIST'S ELDERS WHO FEED WITH "THAT WHICH HAS BEEN TAUGHT" THE WORSHIP GOD DETESTS:


boukol-os , ho,  goat herd, gadfly, II. worshipper of Dionysos in bull-form, 2. b. tou Osorapi devotee of Sarapis,

Apollod. 2.1

2 Apollodorus identifies the Argive Apis with the Egyptian bull Apis, who was in turn identified with Serapis (Sarapis). As to the Egyptian Apis, see Hdt. 2.153 (with Wiedemann's note), iii.27, 28. As to Apia as a name for Peloponnese or Argos, see Aesch. Supp. 260ff.; Paus. 2.5.7; Scholiast on Hom. Il. i.22; Tzetzes, Scholiast on Lycophron 177; Stephanus Byzantius, s.v. Apia.

Hdt. 2.153  Psammetichus having made himself master of all Egypt, he made the southern outer court of Hephaestus' temple at Memphis, and built facing this a court for Apis, where Apis is kept and fed whenever he appears; this court has an inner colonnade all around it and many cut figures; the roof is held up by great statues twenty feet high for pillars. Apis in Greek is Epaphus

Hdt. 2.59 The Egyptians hold solemn assemblies not once a year, but often. The principal one of these and the most enthusiastically celebrated is that in honor of Artemis at the town of Bubastis1 , and the next is that in honor of Isis at Busiris. [2] This town is in the middle of the Egyptian Delta, and there is in it a very great temple of Isis, who is Demeter in the Greek language. [3] The third greatest festival is at Saïs in honor of Athena; the fourth is the festival of the sun at Heliopolis, the fifth of Leto at Buto, and the sixth of Ares at Papremis.

Mercŭrĭus , ii, m., = Hermēs, I.Mercury, the son of Jupiter and Maia, the messenger of the gods; as a herald, the god of dexterity; in speaking, of eloquence; the bestower of prosperity; the god of traders and thieves; the presider over roads, and conductor of departed souls to the Lower World:

 
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Amos 5:26 But ye have borne the tabernacle of your Moloch and Chiun your images,
        the STAR of your god, which ye made to yourselves.

Acts 7:41 And they made a calf in those days,
        and offered sacrifice unto the idol,
        and rejoiced in the works of their own hands
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The practice in the wilderness, tyre and Jerusalem

Acts 7:42 Then God turned,
        and gave them up to worship the HOST of heaven; 
        as it is written in the book of the prophets,
        O ye house of Israel,  have ye offered to me slain beasts and sacrifices
        by the space of forty years in the wilderness?
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Amos 5:27 Therefore will I cause you to go into
        captivity beyond Damascus,
        saith the LORD, whose name is The God of hosts.
Acts 7:43 Yea, ye took up the tabernacle of Moloch, 
        and the star of your god Remphan, 
        figures which ye made to worship them: 
        and I will carry you away beyond Babylon.

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Trumpet, drums, flute, cymbals and castinets with buffoons
Psallo permits ONLY smiting a string with your FINGERS: not a plectrum
Psallo and SOP have the same root meaning.

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Revelation 18F: they are all called Sorcerers who HAD once deceived the whole world.
They WILL BE CAST ALIVE INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE.


Acts 17:24 God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;
Acts 17:25 Neither is worshipped with men’s hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things;

Not understood by any Theologian ACU Summit 2009: never Read Exodus 32

Worship beyond "falling on your face" in Reverence and Godly Fear became an issue when the Serpent or SERPO attached "Eve" as a singing and harp-playing prostitute.

There is no Scripture to FEED anyone said to "worship" by preaching, listening, singing, playing a harp, acting or PAY TO PLAY.

The Synagogue excluded "vocal or instrumental" rejoicing: it was called in a regular sense to READ and understand Civil and Religious laws. Both Jew and Gentile were "wise unto salvation" because they attended Synagogue to escape the superstitious Seventh Day paganism from which God gave REST.

John Calvin, grasped that the Word or Logos is God's Regulative Principle. Calvin agrees about the Synagogue or Church in the wildernesss.

The Synagogue and therefore the Church of Christ obeys and teaches and practices what Jesus Christ commanded in the Prophets and then the Apostles. A Disciple is a Student and does not go to a "worship operation" or a lying wonder.

Acts 15:19 Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them,
        which from among the Gentiles are TURNED to God:
Acts 15:20 But that we write unto them,
        that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication,
        and from things strangled, and from blood.
Acts 15:21 For Moses of old time hath in every city
        them that PREACH him,
        being READ in the synagogues every sabbath day.

2Cor. 3:13 And not as Moses, which put a vail over his face,
        that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:

2Cor. 3:14 But their minds were blinded:
        for until this day remaineth
        the same vail untaken away
        in the reading of the old testament;
        which vail is done away in Christ.

2Cor. 3:15 But even unto this day,
        when Moses is read
, the vail is upon their heart.

2Cor. 3:16 Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, [Baptism]
        the vail shall be taken away.  [Receiving A holy spirit]

Jesus used the example of being CONVERTED and BORN AGAIN like a child Luke recorded the example
of BAPTISM to be SAVED and CONVERTED meaning the same thing.Until you are CONVERTED
you will not be able to read WHOLE THOUGHT PATTERNS written in BLACK INK on BROWN paper.

Epi-strephô , pf.
c. Philos., cause to return to the source of Being, tinas eis ta enantia kai ta prôta
       Proteros and prôtos  II. of Time, former, earlier,
                children
by the first or a former marriage,
       Prosthhen in front, before, formerly, of place and of time;
                            to gennêthen phusei pros to gennêsan
Genn-aô beget, bring forth, engender, call into existence
Phuo 1 Act.:--bring forth, produce, put forth, 2. beget, engender,
        get understanding,
Pros in the direction of
Genn-aô beget, bring forth, engender, call into existence

John 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God
John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
John 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit


Gal. 3:3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?
Heb. 12:23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the SPIRITS of just men made perfect,

Deut XXX WEB. It shall happen, when all these things are come on you, the blessing and the curse, which I have set before you, and you shall call them to mind among all the nations, where Yahweh your God has driven you,
[2]  and shall RETURN to Yahweh your God, and shall OBEY his voice according to all that I command you this day, you and your children, with all your heart, and with all your soul;
[3]  that then Yahweh your God will turn your captivity, and have compassion on you, and will return and gather you from all the peoples, where Yahweh your God has scattered you.
2Cor. 3:17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
2Cor. 3:18 But we all,
        with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord,
        are changed into the same image from glory to glory,
        even AS BY the Spirit of the Lord.

Anyone who SELLS or "Hires Out" themselves to ENHANCE the WORD (regulative principle) of God will never grasps that to them GOD IS A CONSUMING FIRE who does not come before God in Reverence and Godly Fear. Hebrews 12 uses as PATTERN the Instrumental-Trinitarian-Perverted PLAY at Mount Sinai. Nor can they read Romans 1 to see that any self-exhibition or speaking on their own knows that such theatrics is a MARK of a gender-complicated persona.  Literal or imaged that is what causes people to FLEE when the "musical worship begins" to perform.

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Musical Worship always seen as Effeminate

SCRIPTURE IS FILLED WITH SHOWING "INSTRUMENTS" AS THE MARK OF TWO THINGS:
        1. Jesus explained "hypocrites" by reference to Isiah 29 and Ezekiel 33 showing that performance preaching, singing or playing instruments was the MARK of those who enjoyed listening but proved no intention of obedience.
        2. Instruments are almost always connected to BURNING.

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11.22.20 Douglas Foster and no THEOLOGIAN can possibly be a Christian. They are not worried about that because theology DEFACTO denies that THEF FAITH or THE Word, Logos or Regulative Principle defined in Scripture and defended by all of the historical scholars misrepresented as the only way to justify SELLING something when Jesus died to deliver the FREE WATER OF THE WORD. By the power of Jesus and the ony Teacher, Theologians cannot sell God's Word.

PROOF ONE: Why "progressive" meaning "beyond Jesus and the WORD" ARE NOT DISCIPLES OR CHRISTIANS.

John 8:31 Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him,
        IF ye continue in my WORD, THEN are ye my disciples indeed;

The Word or Logos is not and cannot be a God: God's Word has the same meaning as HIS light or life.  LOGOS is god's regulative principle which heaps BURNING on all who are ANTI-LOGOS.

The Word or Logos is used to REPUDIATE Hermes who was the Pagan gender-conflicted god of merchants, thieves and liars.  He is KAIROS used as a pattern for new PLANTS.  He was the messenger or intercessor of all Cults which go beyong the Ekklesia or a School of Christ.

God's WORD or LOGOS  consists of inclusive and exclusive things connected with how God puts His WORD into the MOUTH of Jesus for the last time without the help of A Holy Spirit person.  ALL so-called Progressives-back-to-Babylon write books and hold massive "workshops of evil" to DENOUNCE the Word which is GOD MADE AUDIBLE and Jesus called SPIRIT AND LIFE:

Rom. 10:17 So then FAITH cometh by HEARING, and hearing by the WORD of God.

-LOGOS or rational discord of God made audible and capable of being recorded.
Opposite to --epithumia A. desire, yearning, longing after a thing, desire of or for it, Theaomai :--gaze at, behold, mostly with a sense of wonder3. view as spectators
Opposite -Pathos  A. that which happens to a person or thing, incident, accident,
Opposite Poiein to excite passion, Arist.Rh.1418a12; V. Rhet., emotional style or treatment, represent in poetry, c. describe in verse,
Without
  --Prooimion 
A. opening, introduction; in Music, prelude, overture, Pi.P.1.4; in poems, proëm, preamble, II. hymn or short poem, such as those attributed to Homer, ApollōnosTh.3.104,
VI. verbal expression or utterance, lego, lexis
      -Lexis A.speech, OPPOSITE ôidê

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John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth,
        and the truth shall make you free.
John 8:33 They answered him, We be Abraham’s seed,
        and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?
John 8:34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you,
        Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.
John 8:35 And the servant abideth not in the house for ever:
        but the Son abideth ever.
John 8:36 If the Son therefore shall make you free,
        ye shall be free indeed.
John 8:37 I know that ye are Abraham’s seed;
        but ye seek to kill me, because my WORD hath no place in you.
John 8:38  I SPEAK that which I have seen with my Father:
         and ye DO that which ye have seen with your father.


A Christian-Disciple-Student Do Pattern

Rom. 15:4 For whatsoever things
        were written aforetime
        were written for our LEARNING,
        that we through patience and comfort of the SCRIPTURES might have hope.
Rom. 15:5 Now the God of patience and consolation [Recorded Paraclete]
        grant you to be likeminded one toward another according to Christ Jesus:
Rom. 15:6 That ye may with one MIND and one MOUTH glorify God,
        even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.

This is defined as UNISON Reading or Speaking Scripture in Romans 15 AFTER silencing the self-pleasure of speaking, singing or Scenic performance

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Here is some of the definition of Lying Wonders and Blaspheming the Word of God from Genesis to Revelation.

Just your  HUMAN Tradition or Traditional 20 Times
Not submitting to Musical Discorders Imposing instruments caused CONTROVERSY 3  Times
Church suffers under ARCHAIC, OBSCURE, OR IRRELEVANT styles, methods or traditions
We need to use music to achieve UNITY 14 times according to John 17
If you REJECT using "machines for making wary" you are JUDGING those who IMPOSE. 20 TIMES
If WE IMPOSE instruments it will be in the name of PEACE 2 times
People who reject instruments is just based Style or Styles 13 Times
This is just their Method or Methods 10 Times
Need to change to speaking INTELLIGIBLY in the changing world 2 Times
They are Legalistic and and Judgmental 1 Time
Culture changes WE need to CHANGE 6 TIMES
Not using Instrumennts is just their Customs 2
WE need A NEW Language to explain the Spirit OF Christ 9 Times
People who reject instruments are Just defending THEIR Heritage 2
Freedom 22 Times--is something WE give YOU.
Not using instrumental noise is Just your Opinions 12 Times
People who reject instruments are Pharisee 2 times
WE offer Continuity with the Past 2 but IN ADDITION will offer instruments (based on this common White Paper from the NACC] 8 Times This is the Rick Atchley Both-And outrage
People who reject instruments are JUDGING others 12 Times
Not adding instruments may Eclipse the WORD Hinder the gospel
This will be CHALENGING [Discording)  4 Timess but WE will use GRADUALISM (The Serpent in Genesis uses twisting songs to gradually creep). It will be PAINFUL

  1. If you say that Churches of Christ which did not use INSTRUMENTS during the School of the Word from the Wilderness onwwars was just and evil tradition.
  2. And from Genesis to Revelation musical machines are said to have been brought by Lucifer (ZOE) into the garden of Eden and resulted in some sexual hanky panky to REVELATION when the Babylon mother of harlot rises again and ALL of her religious STAFF are called sorcerers and will be cast alive into the Lake of Fire.
  3. Then Christ in Jeremiah 23 says that you despise the Word and the Latin word is BLASPHEME

THIS PAPER WILL HELP YOU FLEE BABYLON whose Mother of Harlots (Revelation 17) uses "lusted after fruits" (Same as in Isaiah 8) as self-speakers, singers, instrument players and ALL religious craftsmen who were called PARASITES.

LINKS TO A FEW STEPS TO THE LAKE OF FIRE; FIXED LINKS 12.30

"RELIGION" REPLACING "SCHOOL OF CHRIST" AND: WORSHIP ANDROGYNY THE PAGAN SEXUAL IDEAL

TRIBULATION PROMISED FROM WITHIN: BUT, DAVID YOUNG AND THE ELDERS SAY------

THE COMMAND IS TO SPEAK: THERE IS NO COMMAND TO SING AS PERFORMANCE

HOW RECORDED HISTORY NOTES THAT SINGING AS AN ACT WAS IMPOSED AFTER CONSTANTINE AND WAS DIVISIVE

THE COMMAND: SPEAK THAT WHICH IS WRITTEN.  NOTHING WRITTEN BY THE SPIRIT IS METRICAL OR TUNEFUL

Check.gifANATHEMA is to be ACCURSED for preaching a GOSPEL of Rhetoric, Singing, Playing Instruments, Acting or DECORATING a place as a WORSHIP CENTER

Check.gifISAIAH 3 CHRIST'S PROPHETIC TYPE: CLICK BELOW FOR CHRIST'S WARNING ISAIAH 3: RELIGION" REPLACING "SCHOOL OF CHRIST" AND: WORSHIP ANDROGYNY THE PAGAN SEXUAL IDEA

Check.gifROMANS 15: CLICK FOR PAUL'S REVEALING THE PROPHETIC MADE MORE CERTAIN FOR OUR EXAMPLE

ISAIAH 8  WHEN EMMANUEL COMES TO YOUR SCHOOL OF CHRIST YOU WILL NOT--CANNOT--PEEP AND MUTTER

CHRIST'S PURPOSE DRIVEN CHURCH DOES NOT BOAST ABOUT ITSELF.

ISAIAH 14  CHRIST'S WARNING OF THE SINGING AND HARP-PLAYING PROSTIITUTES CAST INTO "HELL"

A HUNDRED YEARS OF ATTACKS AGAINST CHURCHES OF CHRIST WHICH WILL NEVER IMPOSE INSTRUMENTAL IDOLATRY.

PROOF THAT ALL INSTRUMENTALISTS ATTACKS ARE BASED ON LIES OR IGNORANCE.

NUMBERS 11 THE REST OF THE STORY ABOUT MUTTERING AND MURMURING:  Violates Christ's outlawing vocal or instrument rejoicing or speaing your own words in Numbers 10

DAVID YOUNG STILL SAYS THAT ALL THINGS ARE LAWFUL?

THE "LEADERSHIP" IS PURPOSE-DRIVEN TO SOW MASSIVE DISCORD WHICH GOD HATES.

ELDERS AND DEACONS ARE THE ONLY VOCATIONAL "STAFF" IN A CHURCH OF CHRIST

The role of PREACHER as SENT Evangelist

ISAIAH 8: THOSE WHO DON'T PREACH THAT WHICH HAS BEEN PROVIDED ARE MARKED AS BEING WITHOUT LIGHT.

THE MARKS OF THE FINAL SHAKING AND THE END-TIME SHAKER.

The MARKS of the BEASTS (Zoe) and the INSECTS-PARASITES (LOCUSTS or musical worship teams)
 

THE FIREY DESTINY OF THOSE WHO SOW MUSICAL OR RHETORICAL DISCORD

Douglas A. Foster knows that Instrumental Musia as Worship was made a Red Flag Issue by the Christian Church (NACC) even before they sected out of the Disciples of Christ.  As Foster writes the South off as poor and ignorant and jealous of the Carpet Bag churches, eactly 100 years ago the same Flag-Waving was begun by advertising "unity" but finally proving to everyone that they intended to, as at Sand Creek, CONFISCATED that new brick building and in the words of the Christian Standard still handling agents to "transistion" YOUR church into an Instrumental Institution.

Foster's Ploy is that it is acceptable to twist Scripture and history to "infiltrate and divert your property" but if you object then you are a legalistic, sectarian, heratic, patternist, traditionalists just suffering from the disease you caught from your godly ancestors.

Published on Aug 17, 2013 A historical overview by Dr. Douglas Foster of the issuses concerning the use of instrumental music in the Church through the centuries.

Douglas A. Foster: Beyond Intellectual, formative, why is it important to consider instrumental music in worship. In my opinion instrumental music is significant but  it is a Third Level Topic: not something you would be talking about.

Douglas A. Foster makes a profession of despising the ignorant southern churches because they will NOT submit to the AGENDA and will not just, as stated by one agent, Just Shut Their mouths.  Because it is not important he has the right to promote and introduce musical machines into peaceable Churches of Christ, but those being '"infiltrated and diverted" are sowing discord as legalistic sectarians for protesting those inventing their own dogma to "steal the living of widows and honest workers." This is a ploy used down through history as psychologial violence to make people turn coward and not stay awake when the thieves break in and steal.

The Church of Christ can be found bearing that name in all perioda of history which understood that the object of the assembly was to Teach the Word of God. They claimed to be Apostolic which meant that a Christian group is bound to follow the teachings of Christ in the Prophets and Apostles. The Disciples of Christ which sponsors Foster's work reject Scripture as the only resource for faith and practice. That happens when A School of the Word (Christ and the Campbells) becomes a Makes Works Project for theologians who have no godly ROLE and certainly not DOLE because history denies that their is A Law of Giving to support them.


Douglas A. Foster: will discuss 1) What is worship anyway? The implication that worship is defined by a "whole lot of what went before in church history."  The implication which ignores the Bible and recorded history is that those who still RESIST others imposing Musical instruments as machines for doing hard work, has no Biblical bases but is based on the "heritage" or ignorant ancestors who resisted instruments in a fit of jealous rage over people building grand buildings and hiring hirelings at a huge price to perform as preachers and organists.

We might tell you because Foster etal will not is that literal worship means to fall on your face because you recognize the holiness of God.  We might tell you that the godly people were quarantined to the local Qahal, synagogue, ekklesia or Church of Christ (the Rock) in the wilderness.  That assembly of Christ had only one meaning of WORSHIP which was to

Rest, Read and rehearse the Word of God delivered down to very small groups in isolated towns (Exodus 18)
It OUTLAWED "vocal or instrumental rejoicing" including any self-speaking rhetoric.

The Command for Timothy to publically READ the word for Comfort and Doctrine is the ONLY worship concept even in the wilderness.  You cannot give attention to God by giving attention to singing and playing boys and girls

This Church of Christ was clearly defined after the Jacob-cursed and God-abandoned Levites rose up in PLAY at Mount Sinai.  Foster etal does not know that PLAY involved playing with musical instruments and playing with one another.  Thee connection between pagan religion and instrumental noise was feminine, effeminate or perverted.  Paul explains the musical fall from grace in Romans 10.

All spiritual people understood that God did not command King, Kingdom, Temple, priests, animal slaughter or burnt offerings.  If you doubt that then you missed Acts 7.  The Spirit OF Christ spoke ONLY through the Prophets and Apostles to repudiate the Civil-Military-Clergy complex (senior pastor and STAFF to STIFF the flock) as robbers and parasites.  Nehemiah makes it clear that God afflicted them with the Babylonish rituals BECAUSE of their sin and never as a PATTERN which godly people never engaged in.

Douglas A. Foster: 2 What is Worship music?

The Command to the elders as the Pastor-Teachers is to teach that which has been taught.
Romans 15 excludes the musical performance as Areskos or Latin Placeo.  The group effort was to "use one mind and one mouth to speak that which is written for our learning."  A Church of Christ is a School of Christ in the Prophets and Apostles.

There is nothing in the Sacred Literature which is metrical: the Word or Spirit is breathed into Jesus as the Word and He SPOKE it "without measure" which is most often Without Meter. SPEAK excludes meter.

Melody as tunefulness belongs to the nineteenth century.
Simple harmony did not begin to be understood before about the year 1250 when the monks and idle composers began to fiddle around with the simple organs because they had ten fingers.

Singing with instruments did not begin as Foster Claims because they used the Text and the organs not requested by the leaders were used in the rare Fair Towns for processionals, intermissions and recessionals."

This is proven because Calvin permitted a few Psalms (only) to be radically rewritten and set to a simple meter to be sung in unison only.


All of the Bible and the Greek literature proves that "worship music" especially by males singing and playing meant that they were "drunk, perverted or just mocking people."

Amanda Eubanks, notes the blurring of sexual roles during dramatic performances. However, ancient literature from Babylonian tablets and beyond agree with Johannes Quasten. In Music and Worship in Pagan and Christian Antiquity, beginning on page 41 He uses many of the church Fathers and Classical resources we also rely upon:

"Philodemus considered it paradoxical that music should be regarded as veneration of the gods while musicians were paid for performing this so-called veneration. Again, Philodemus held as self deceptive the view that music mediated religious ecstasy. He saw the entire condition induced by the noise of cymbals and tambourines as a disturbance of the spirit.

He found it significant that, on the whole, only women and effeminate men fell into this folly.

Accordingly, nothing of value could be attributed to music; it was no more than a slave of the sensation of pleasure, which satisfied much in the same way that food and drink did.

Similar opinions may be found in the writings of Philo. On one occasion he spoke of the Jewish "Feast of Fasting," used by the Greeks for the Day of Atonement:

"Now, many a man from the false religions, which are not ashamed of criticising what is noble, will ask: how can there be a feast without carousing and overeating, without the pleasant company of hosts and guests, without quantities of unmixed wine, without richly set tables and highly stacked provisions of everything that pertains to a banquet, without pageantry and jokes,

bantering and merry-making to the accompaniment of flutes and citharas, the sound of drums and cymbals and other effeminate and frivolous music of every king,

enkindling unbridled lusts with the help of the sense of hearing. For in and through the same [pleasures] those persons openly seek their joy, for what true joy is their they do not know.

Women's singing was a vital part of all pagan worship. In very early times women became priestly singers of the gods in the temple.

"Women and girls from the different ranks of society were proud to enter the service of the gods as singers and musicians. The understanding of this service was universal: these singers constituted the 'harem of the gods'." (End of Quasten)

Douglas A. Foster3 Instrumental / none instrumental music in worship

Again, a musical instrument is a "machine for doing hard work mostly in MAKING WAR and in creating the shock and awe required to fleece the pagan men before they could get past the prophetesses or prostitutes. Abaddon or Apollyon is the LEADER of the MUSES as his worship team. They were known to be dirty adulteresses and that is why in Revelation 18 John the religious performers "lusted after fruits", says that they were sorcerers and WILL BE Cast alive into the lake of fire.  No disciple of the Bible could boast about diverting other people's property and be ignorant of the Genesit-to-Revelation mark of Scribes and Pharisees Jesus called hypocrites and quoting Ezekiel 33 names self-speakers, singers and instrument players.  We have no reason that having been UNLEASHED form the smokey pit that appealing to Scripture is anything other than always perverting each and every mention of an instrument. That's good enough to fool most of the people most of the time.

See our review of Al Maxey's use of Miriam as authority for a female musical worship minister. Of course, the text makes it clear that as a prophetess Miriam was called a soothsayer in Egypt.

THE A CAPPELLA WORSHIP LEADER: THE GOAT SINGERS OR CASTRATOS.

A deeper-reaching attempt to explain the significance of the castrato age has been made by Moses (1960) in an interesting paper on the psychology of the castrato voice. He interprets the emergence of this vocal fashion as the fulfillment of an age-old dream wish of bisexual hermaphroditism. Even if one does not follow Moses in some of his somewhat overdrawn conclusions, there is left enough of a solid basis for his theory. Hermaphroditic mythology plays an important part in cultural history. In collections of primitive art one sometimes see sculptures of idols each with female breasts and a penis 

Voices mirror not only individual characters but the spirit of a period as well. In this sense the voice of the castrato personifies the bisexual ideal with its unity of a female voice in a man's body. In the mythological atmosphere of the baroque opera the castrato portrayed gods and mythological persons who presented male and female characteristics in a vocal hermaphroditic combination.

In an unfinished book that Paul Moses left at his death he predicted, over ten years ago, quite correctly the approach of another age of crossover of the sexes. The young generation of today favors fashions that obliterate the differences between the sexes. Girls wear pants, and young men sport girlish long hair and wear necklaces and bracelets. The classical love song of the nineteenth century, the love-centered operettas, and the popular songs of the "June-moon" variety of the first half of this century have given way to the harsh rhythms of rock and roll of the unisex generation. And the phoniatrist sees among his patients an increasing number of young adult males who do not use the deep masculine voice that the pubertal growth of the larynx offers but continue to speak in an artificial high pitch of almost female sound. Friedrich S. Brodnitz, M.D.

Douglas A. Foster  Instrumental "music" as worship is not of first importance in my opinion.

The Spirit OF Christ identified Lucifer (ZOE, Venus) as the singing and harp playing prostitute beginning in the garden of Eden. That is exactly what he-she-it said.  We know that it is NOT AN ISSUE among those who make it an issue use the office of "doctor of the law" to exert influence.  However, Jesus warned the rest of us that Doctors of the Law (speakers, singers, players) TAKE AWAY THE KEY TO KNOWLEDGE.

Music derived from mystery MEANS "To make the lambs dumb before the slaughter." Christ in Amos and Isaiah proves that religious instrumental noise was THE WAY they hireling clergy "forced the people to hunger and thirst for the Water of the Word and never be able to prove it."  Of course, it is not of first importance to those who IMPOSE DISCORD but the widow having her pocket picked thinks that it IS important and sometime up to half of the "owners" flee and never look back.

It IS important to the masses of elders and preachers who are not FUELED by theology. That is why the Church of Christ has mostly escaped the effort at a Hostile Takeover and being forced into the JEWISH worship which Foster does not seem to understand was a DEATH SENTENCE.  The Jews had a Covenant with Death and Hell and the musiic in Amos was "a feast with and for dead ancestors.


Douglas A. Foster and his followers are going to say that churches of Christ are IGNORANT of church history and refuse to follow along with their PATTERN: they just stick with Rick Atchley's claim that the Bible was a preliminary sketch and HE and his band hear spirits tell them what Jesus WOULD have taught if JESUS had the benefit of traditionalism of Church Councils.:

Having a sense of our history is a necessary part of our spiritual maturity: WE didn't just get here without ideas, customs, and are not aware of our own foundation on traditionalism.

They love to say that the Legalistic, Sectarian Churches of Christ INVENTED such ideas of NOT using Lifeless Instruments or Carnal Weapons as ways to AID or ENHANCE our spectacles they call "worship." They mean that YOU are suppose to worship or give all of your attention on the Senior Pastor.   However, because it is intended to harm godly people we can say that the direct commands from Genesis to Revelation is just OUR INTERPRETATION and is TRADITIONALISM invented by ignorant people is what we call TELLING A LIE.  John says that Sorcerers (actors, musicians), Dogs (Catamites as emasculated priests of the mother goddess) and Liars will have their place in the Lake of Fire.

It is not possible that anyone be ignorant of the truth UNLESS their tampering with the Word (all theologians) requested that Gos send them STRONG DELUSIONS so that they believe their own lies.  The Lying Wonders of Delusional people are defined as religious observations (to which the kingdom will not come) featuring speakers, singers, players and actors CLAIMING that they are PERFORMING WORSHIP for you.

The Spirit OF Christ warns about the Lying Pen of the Scribes in the prophets: Scribes are hypocrites; writers, speakers, singers, players, actors.
v. Halm ad h. l.): qui canerent voce et qui psallerent,Gell. 19, 9, 3;
Gel. 703. When there was an end of eating and drinking, and the time came for conversation, Julianus asked that the singers and lyre-players be produced, the most skilful of both sexes, whom he knew that the young man had at hand. And when the boys and girls were brought in, they sang in a most charming way several odes of Anacreon and Sappho [Lesbian Poet], as well as some erotic elegies of more recent poets that were sweet and graceful. But we were especially pleased with some delightful verses of Anacreon, written in his old age,  which I noted down, in order that sometimes the toil and worry of this task of mine might find relief in the sweetness of poetical compositions:
And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 2 Thess. 2:8
Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 2 Thess. 2:9
And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 2 Thess. 2:10
And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion (tramps, erratic teachers, roving stars), that they should believe a lie: 2 Thess. 2:11

Delusions always come with deluders:
Plane (g4106) plan'-ay; fem. of 4108 (as abstr.); obj. fraudulence; subj. a straying from orthodoxy or piety: - deceit, to deceive, delusion, error.
Planos (g4108) plan'-os; of uncert. affin.; roving (as a tramp), i.e. (by impl.) an impostor or misleader: - deceiver, seducing.
That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. 2 Thess. 2:12
    The Greek: Teratourg-eô , A. WORK wonders, pseudôsti Sch.Pi.I.7(6).13.

Pindar Odes: [1] In which of the local glories of the past, divinely blessed Thebe, did you most delight your spirit? Was it when you raised to eminence the one seated beside Demeter of the clashing bronze cymbals, flowing-haired [5] Dionysus? Or when you received, as a snow-shower of gold in the middle of the night, the greatest of the gods[20] then begin the victory [Nike: TRIUMPH OVER] procession with a sweet-singing hymn for Strepsiades; for he is the victor in the pancratium at the Isthmus, both awesome in his strength and handsome to look at; and he treats excellence as no worse a possession than beauty. [23] He is made radiant by the violet-haired Muses, and he has given a share in his flowering garland to his uncle and namesake

Spectācŭlum  I. a show, sight, spectacle, A. Lit., in the theatre, circus, etc., a public sight or show, a stageplay, spectacle,

Scaena , [outlawed as SELF-pleasure in Romans 15 to ENABLE teaching that which is WRITTEN.
2. (Post-Aug.) Of the schools of rhetoric, as scenes for the display of eloquence in scaenas scholasticorum, qui rhetores [meaning of hypocrite] vocantur,
The-ama ,  A. sight, spectacle, ei tis orchoit' eu, theam' ên Pl.Com.130 ; Opposite mathêma, of a sight which gives pleasure,X.Smp.2.2 , ; orchêseis kai theamata 

Math-êma , atos, to, ( [mathein] )
A. that which is learnt, lesson 2. learning, knowledge

Romans 15:4 For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning [didaskalia], that we through patience and comfort [paraclete] of the scriptures might have hope.

2Timothy 3:7 Ever learning [Mathema], and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

X.Smp.2.2 Xenophon, Symposium  II. When the tables had been removed and the guests had poured a libation and sung a hymn, there entered a man from Syracuse, to give them an evening's merriment. He had with him a fine flute-girl, a dancing-girl--one of those skilled in acrobatic tricks,--and a very handsome boy, who was expert at playing the cither and at dancing; the Syracusan made money by exhibiting their performances as a spectacle. [2] They now played for the assemblage, the flute-girl on the flute, the boy on the cither; and it was agreed that both furnished capital amusement.
Thema is OPPOSITE to Learning.

THAT'S WHY
Douglas A. Foster does not want you to be ALARMED: don't alert the frogs about the rising temperature.

Foster will identify the early Disciples as HATE MONGERERS: if the JEWS worshipped with instruments (the did not) then WE will pout and NOT use instruments.


1. Spiritually Historical Inststument

Early Church

The early church was quite ignorant, says Foster, about the Prophets they had listened to from their youth.  They didn't know that the sacrificial system had been dead since the Return and we have no evidence of WORSHIP in inside of the Temple in the New Teatament.  Paul said that Timothy was wise unto salvation and he grew up on the prophets.  At the Jerusalem conference the Gentiles knew perfectly well the teachings of the synagogue which they attended to escape the pagan rituals including music.

They had never been IN the temple and watched the loud instrumental noise which God had quarantined behiind city gates.

If they were around the marketplace they would know why Jesus consigned the pipers, singers and dancers there.

The long prayers by the hireling Pharisees were called HYMNS: Jesus called them hypocrites.

Two reasons:

The Christians (ignorant of the Word) had to distinguish themselves from Jewish worship with instrumental music (not so).   At end of first century synagogues were expelling Christians

The Synagogue was a School of the Word: it had no singing or playing of instruments: they PREACHED the Word (only) by READING the Word.   They did not meet with the Jews on the Sabbath but used the buildings on the First Day of the Week.

All literate Jews knew that God had abandoned the Jews because of musical idolatry: Stephen preached the sermon which informed the Jews but NOT the modern theologians that:
God promised David a Tent at a Jebusite High place on Zion
But, Solomon built God a HOUSE on Moriah where God had already provided the sacrifice to Abraham.
BUT, God does not dwell in houses built by human hands neither is he worshipped by human hands: pointing, snapping, waving, clapping or picking a harp.

"Before the establishment of the kingdom under Saul, it was the women who, as in every young civilization, played a major part in the performance of music. Such figures as Miriam, Deborah, Jephthah's daughter, and the women hailing the young hero David have become almost archetypes of female musicians.

"Characteristic of all these cases is the familiar picture of a female chorus, dancing and singing, accompanied by frenzied drum-beating.

This is the scene known to the entire Near East, and not
"even the
severe rule of Islam could wholly suppress this age-old practice." (Int Dict of the Bible, Music, p. 457).

"There is incontrovertible archaeological evidence for the antiquity of the musical guilds themselves. The Phoenicians (Canaanites) outshone their contemporaries in music, and the Israelites were early influenced by them.

Musical guilds of the Hebrews may be traced back in some instances,
to
old Canaanite families whose designations, such as Hemen the Ezrahite (I Chron. 2:6),
became a part of later Hebrew family names." (Unger, Merril, Archaeology and the Old Testament, Zondervan, P. 216-7)
Douglas A. Foster as the Church began to be less Jewish needed to distinguish from the instruments IN the Temple

The false implication is that the Jewish Church USED instruments but pouted and decided to do something DIFFERENT from the Jews and worship WITHOUT instruments. Some of Foster's band insists that evil people FORCED the church to stop using instruments in "worship."

The early church assembled in Solomon's Porch in order to teach the collected masses. The people came for commerce and not much ceremony.  Based on the Law of Moses the common people, including Jesus, must be OUTSIDE of the gates during the slaughter of innocent animals.  They observed the Apostle's doctrine, breaking of bread and fellowship. They did what the godly people did in the Synagogues QUARANTINED from the Temple sacrifices.

From the wilderness onward (earlier say Jews) the godly Jews assembled in the Synagogue for hundreds of years before the time of Jesus.  Only the evil people needed a LAW which "excluded vocal and instrumental rejoicing" because claiming to come into the presence of a Holy Spirit God would never allow godly people to do anything but bow in silence as the Word was read: that is what Paul ocmmanded form men and women.

Anyone who took an instrument INTO the temple where the Holy Place was a physical type of the Church was to be EXECUTED.  The Temple had been confiscated by HIRELINGS and the young men had deserted Jerusalem to keep from "wearing the hat of Hermes" and being male prostitutes in the Temple.



        Not in the Synagoaug.  First Christians Canted.
               


Douglas A. Foster: Justin Martyr early 2nd simply singing is agreeable, lifeless instruments.  In this is REMOVED from  the worship of the Church.

Foster wants you to think that lifeless instruments were IN the worship of the church but was REMOVED. Again, instruments were REMOVED because the Christians were just ANTI-SEMITES:   They be childrn, we be adult
While this was found in Justin's papers, it was not written by him; BAD HISTORY

THEODORET " Theodoret of Cyrus or Cyrrhus  c. 393 – c. 457) 107 . Question: If songs were invented by unbelievers to seduce men, but were allowed to those under the law on account of their childish state, why do those who have received the perfect teaching of grace in their churches still use songs, just like the children under the law?

Answer: It is not simple singing that belongs to the childish state, but singing with lifeless instruments, with dancing, and with clappers. Hence the use of such instruments and the others that belong to the childish state is excluded from the singing in the churches, and simple singing is left." (Theodoret, a bishop of Cyrhus in Syria, Questions and Answers for the Orthodox)

Justin Martyr to Trypho the Jew: Chapter XVIII.-Christians Would Observe the Law, If They Did Not Know Why It Was Instituted.

"For since you have read, O Trypho, as you yourself admitted, the doctrines taught by our Saviour, I do not think that I have done foolishly in adding some short utterances of His to the prophetic statements.

Wash therefore, and be now clean, and put away iniquity from your souls,
as God bids you be washed in this laver,
and be circumcised with the true circumcision.

For we too would observe the fleshly circumcision, and the Sabbaths, and in short all the feasts, if we did not know for what reason they were enjoined you,-namely, on account of your transgressions and the hardness of your hearts. For if we patiently endure all things contrived against us by wicked men and demons, so that even amid cruelties unutterable, death and torments, we pray for mercy to those who inflict such things upon us, and do not wish to give the least retort to any one, even as the new Lawgiver commanded us: how is it, Trypho, that we would not observe those rites which do not harm us,-I speak of fleshly circumcision, and Sabbaths, and feasts?
XIX 
Moreover, all those righteous men already mentioned, though they kept no Sabbaths, 45 were pleasing to God; and after them Abraham with all his descendants until Moses, under whom your nation appeared unrighteous and ungrateful to God,

making a calf in the wilderness:
wherefore God,
accommodating Himself to that nation,
enjoined them
also to offer sacrifices,

as if to His name, in order that you might not serve idols. Which precept, however, you have not observed; nay, you sacrificed your children to demons.

And you were commanded to keep Sabbaths, that you might retain the memorial of God. For His word makes this announcement, saying, "That ye may know that I am God who redeemed you.' 46

XXII Pass all of you unto Calneh, and see; and from thence go ye unto Hamath the great, and go down thence to Gath of the strangers, the noblest of all these kingdoms, if their boundaries are greater than your boundaries.

Ye who come to the evil day, who are approaching, and who hold to false Sabbaths; who lie on beds of ivory, and are at ease upon their couches; who eat the lambs out of the flock, and the sucking calves out of the midst of the herd;

who applaud at the sound of the musical instruments;
they reckon them as
stable, and not as fleeting,

who drink wine in bowls, and anoint themselves with the chief ointments, but they are not grieved for the affliction of Joseph. Wherefore now they shall be captives, among the first of the nobles who are carried away; and the house of evil-doers shall be removed, and the neighing of horses shall be taken away from Ephraim.' 54

And again by Jeremiah: "Collect your flesh, and sacrifices, and eat: for concerning neither sacrifices nor libations did I command your fathers in the day in which I took them by the hand to lead them out of Egypt.' 55

Douglas A. Foster:   Chrysostom David had a Lyre, lifeless strings: the church has a lyre of living strings. much more in accordance with piety.  Made sharp distinction. 

Again, Foster does not read real history: he says that David played the harp but WE BE MORE PIOUS and therefore THAT is the reason we do not use musical instruments in the worship of the Church

John Chrysostom Homilies Acts Chapter Seven: Stephen against the Law, Temple and Sacrifices.
What wonder that ye know not Christ, seeing ye knew not Moses, and God Who was manifested by such wonders?
        But they not only knew Him not:
        they also insulted in another way, by their idol making.
        "Then God turned, and gave them up to worship the host of heaven" (v. 42.)

Hence these same "customs" date their origin, hence the sacrifices:
        they were themselves the first that made sacrifices to their idols!
        For that is why it is marked,
Editor's Note 7: dia gar touto epishmainetai. The meaning is: Stephen was accused of speaking against "the customs,"-sacrifices, temple, feasts, etc. Therefore he significantly points to that critical conjuncture. from which these "customs" date their introduction: namely, the Provocation at Horeb.
Prior to that, he tells of "living oracles," life-giving precepts:
after it
, and as its consequence, sacrifices, etc.
those statutes which were not good, and ordinances by which a man shall not live, as God says by Ezekiel.
Not a word of sacrifice till then: and the first mention is, of the sacrifices offered to the calf. In like manner, "they rejoiced," "the people ate and drank, and rose up to play:" and in consequence of this, the feasts were prescribed: kai eufrainonto, fhsin: dia touto kai eortai.-'Epishmainetai might be rendered, "he marks," "puts a mark upon it" (so the innovator, who substitutes, touto kai Dauid epishmainomenoj legei): we take it passively, "there is a mark set over it-it is emphatically denoted." In the active, the verb taken intransitively means "to betoken or announce itself," "make its first appearance."-

In the Treatise adv. Judaeos, iv. §6. tom. i. 624. C. St. Chrysostom gives this account of the legal sacrifices: "To what purpose unto Me is the multitude of your sacrifices? etc. (Isaiah i., 11, ff.)
Do ye hear how it is most plainly declared, that God did not from the first require these at your hands? Had He required them, He would have obliged those famous saints who were before the Law to observe this practice.

`Then wherefore has He permitted it now?  In condescension to your infirmity. As a physician in his treatment of a delirious patient, etc.:  thus did God likewise. For seeing them so frantic in their lust for sacrifices, that they were ready, unless they got them, to desert to idols: nay not only ready,  but that they had already deserted, thereupon He permitted sacrifices. And that this is the reason, is clear from the order of events.

After the feast which they made to the demons, then it was that He permitted sacrifices: all but saying: `Ye are mad, and will needs sacrifice: well then, at any rate sacrifice to Me. 0'"-(What follows may serve to illustrate the brief remark a little further on, Kai h aixmalwsia kathgoria thj kakiaj.)  "But even this, He did not permit to continue to the end, but by a most wise method, withdrew them from it ...
For He did not permit it to be done in any place of the whole world,
but in Jerusalem only. Anon, when for a short time
they had sacrificed, he destroyed the city.
Had He openly said, Desist, they, such was their insane passion for sacrificing, would not readily have complied. But now perforce, the place being taken away, He secretly withdrew them from their frenzy."  So here: "Even the captivity impeaches the wickedness (which was the cause of the permission of sacrifice.")

Douglas A. Foster Summary:
Early church did not use im in worship
        Specificially to distinguish from Jews,
        Distinguish from Pagan worship.
                Specifiic Reasons
Foster and the Wrecking Crew does not know and probably cannot know that both the Prophets and Apostles condemn specificially the use of instrumental "noise" and with the Greek literature calls it sorcery and the mark of perversion: musical ecstasy strokes all of the human senses and is a sexual-like climax says the Vineyard Lady and Plato and the Egyptians who called it a visual and oral orgasm.

Douglas A. Foster Will say that the church BEGAN to use instruments but to distance themselves from the Jews decided to be DIFFERENT.  He claims that Justin says instruments were REMOVED again as some kind of pity party. But, after about 600 the BEGAN AGAIN to use the organ for Worship.

2.  Instruments began to be use
        After distinguish from pagans mid 600  not for worship.

The early church called itself The Church of Christ and was marked by Poor Priests who were faithful to the Great Commission.  After Constantine unwashed pagans became bishops and not even SINGING in that eastern style was imposed in the year 373.  That markes the FIRST time that singing was imposed as an ACT. This was introduced from the East and to their credity the songs were pretty accurate Bible Stories.  Singing as RITUAL split the Eastern church from the Western Church.  Even then the chanter or precenter which McClintock says "was the first heresy largely pervading the Church" SPOKE a Cantillating style where the Jews had added accent marks to prevent anyone from changing words or inflections which would disrespect the Word.

When the Organs were added at large Cathedrals at large FAIR TOWNS  (like ACU WORKSHOPS marketing books and bodies), they did not accompany the Reader or Chanter and the congregation did NOT participate until after Calvin gave in and permitted some Psalms (only) to be set to a simple meter to be sung in UNISON (only).  That is how Luther rejects instruments and interprets Romans 15 which COMMANDS using one mind and one mouth to speak that which is written for our LEARNING.  Disciples are students and they go to Learning Centers and NOT to Worship Centers.

 


3. product of reformation
Early 1600 break away.  Reformed, Luther,l
Reformed.  John Calvin

Church of England
        Tried to vote out

Anabaptists
        no infant baptism

Catholic counter reformation.
Martin Luther if spiritually beneficial, not condemned then it could be used.
Zwingli: if do not say do it, you cannot do it.  Prohibited.

Worship and music has a CONTEXT.  Other than Catholics HATE catholics. If the CATHOLICS do it then it is BAD.  Bunko.   Not before 1911

like early christians bases on pagans and jews

Calvin wrote: the worship of God never in outward services but necessary weak and rude (Jews)
Now that Christ has come bury the gospel if we intro
        Calvin's views "no more suitable than burning incencens the PAPISTS have foolishly borrowed this from the Jews.   Apostles more pleasing.
Calvin RHETORIC strong ANTI-catholic.

Calvinist lingo WE CAME FROM REFORMED.
Presbyterians, Baptists, Congregaqtionalist.

ALL early leaders were Presbyterians.  Many baptists came into POWERFULLOY influenced by Calvin.
All had controversies over instruments.
Only Churches of Christ worship Acappella Worship
        Robert Dabney. same time among presbyterians. Split. We INHERITED division mentality.
        David Dunlevy  tolerate the POPE thant an ORGAN: Same mentality.
Baptists split caused by IMPOSING instruments.

4. Our own movement
All early leaders were Presbyterians.  Same time came up
Same REACTIONS:
        Millenniel Harbinger 1861 some good not so good Reformed Anti
        Animal nature flags, BUT to our SPIRITUALLY cowbell in concert.
        Back and Forth. Did begin to NOT an issue of fellowship AT FIRST.
                But BECOME a mark of faithfulness.  My contention is.  Acappella TRADITION is bes but I do not believe demerit and condemn
                How that happened.  Campbell do not include.  VIEWS ONLY cowbell.
    Turn to your neighbor:  what is one point I have gotten so far?

Think it is relevant, disagree. 60 Seconds.
1.  Are different ways of understanding instruments: had specific reasons.
2.  Christian worship music has been shared.  Pet song. 728B We share 90% of the with Baptists.
3.  Lessions that I would get from MY lecture.
        1.  This has always been an issue.
        2.  Reasons opposed had specific contexts.
                Early church distinguish from Jews/pagans so WE will not us
                Reformed We do not want ot be like the PAPIST
                Historical precedence does not make the case.  Then used to interpretation
                Nothing but in Revelation. Otherwise Silent about instruments.
Start: How did this become A Red Flag Issue about being faithful.

Campbell thought not right., Have to be frank.
Civil war made happen. Before the Civil war . No one was point

After Civil War the Instrumentalists Attack.  South was devastated. Farm land wiped out. Industry gone, hundreds of thousands dead.  Moved out of the main theater.  STARVING.
Some involved in War. 
But the party not fought prospered economically, Nothing to spend money. 
Churches began building new buildings.  Nashville .   Put instruments in church buildings.
South destitute, you are SPENDING money on ORGANS.  You cannot be Christians.

I will try to unscramble Doglas A. Foster's rationale (?) about how the southern churches came to make using musical instruments in their "worship" a Red-Flag issue. Those not given to psychological violence would say that the red flag was raised when people began to force the organ (only we promise) into other people's property and accused those who resisted having their pockets picked with violating the direct law which commanded them to impose and with being Satanic.

We might alllert the readers to the fact that even before 1800 Nashville had become almost unique as a center for world-renound musical artist and opra.  A large number of people  owned and performed on the guitar, banjo, violin and all kinds of wind instruments.

Next, a small number of southerners were slave owners and most were craftsmen, land owners or renters of farm land.  Almonst none of the land was made unfit for farming and most people did not live in the battlefields. 

It was northern Alabama,  mostly women, who stopped the Stoneite witchcraft plan for converting people.  There probably were few of the iteneraant preachers who knew then or now as much about the mothers who instructed their children daily and could not be fooled.

Foster's idea is that they were Biblically and historically illiterate and did not know that instruments are "machines for doing hard work" and could grasp that the shisters used and use money to extract money from the poor. After the war, the people in the NORTH used their carpet bags to build grand churches and the Edifice Wars began. Many as told to J.W.McGarvey simply could not pay their bills unless theyr brought in high-paid musical performers.  This caused a jealousy breakdown in the South whose ONLY rationale against instruments was that they SHOULD have spend the money on the poor.

Therefore, in Fostereze, the South rejected instruments being imposed ONLY because of the wast of Money: they got an ANTI-instrument fixed in their brain so that when instruments were added most many years after the War pride kept them from bowing while others piped and INVENTED Biblical reasons for not turning School of Christ (the Campbell's restoration) into a Theater for Holy Entertainment. Foster wants you to believe that the ONLY reason for rejecting performance "worship" is some ungodly hatred of anyone who does anything.

BARTON W.
STONE "We have just received an extraordinary account of about

30,000 Methodists in England, withdrawing from that church and connexion, because the Conference disapproved of the introduction of instrumental music to the churches. The full account shall appear in our next. To us, backwoods Americans, this conduct of those seceders appears be the extreme of folly, and it argues that they have a greater taste for music, than they have for religion. Editor." (Barton Stone, Christian Messenger, vol. 3, No. 2, Dec. 1828, p. 48 in bound volume)

It is a historical fact that when the instrumentalistc could not confiscate other people's property it was THEY who withdrew fellowship.  Now they will fellowship you and take your money but Foster would never let a Bible  student just read the flood of passages connecting instruments with a Satanic Attach.

Following the American Civil War "Staunch supporters of the missionary society and instrumental music, the new look in styles of work and worship, had been predicting for years the early demise of the Advocate. It was unthinkable, as these men viewed the problem, that even the people in the South would not want to keep up with the times.

Lipscomb's simple ways might have been condoned in the hills of Franklin County before the war, but the times were passing him by. It was only a question of time until the Advocate would fold up, and when it did, as these men gleefully envisioned, it would be a happy day." (Earl West, Life and Times of David Lipscomb, p. 166)

"Isaac Errett who influenced Campbell to sign over (extorted?) his copyright, had argued that i was absolutely necessary to the unity of the church to have unity of worship, and the latter could not be maintained unless the brethren all used one hymn book--Campbell's.

Accordingly, the Standard and the Society opposed vigorously the publication of any other hymn book. Lipscomb by selling a hymn book printed in Canada had been visited by some of the ire of these men." (West, p. 171)

Douglas A. Foster's vision of myriad of instrumental churches dancing in his head is not a reader of any history:

Benjamin Franklin 1877

Against the notion that:

7. "Well, the churches generally are going into it, and it is 'a foregone conclusion that they will have and use the organ,' and it is useless to stand against it."
..........No "the churches generally" are not gone into it, nor are they going that way.
..........We do not know the number of churches in the United States;
..........but doubt not that six thousand would be a low enough estimate.

How many of them use the organ in worship? We do not know this with certainty, but probably not more than from [431] one hundred and fifty to two hundred, and certainly not five hundred. [1877]

The organ party is yet small, and would amount to but little, had it not found way into a few places of note and prominence. There are still whole States that have not an organ in the Church.

We think there is not one in use in Canada, not one in Virginia, Tennessee, nor Texas, that we have heard of; scarcely any in Kentucky, West Virginia, Arkansas, Missouri, Kansas, Nebraska, and many other States. The organ is still the exception, not the rule; and the party is small. The main body are true to the great principles of reformation--to the divine purpose of returning to and maintaining, the original practice in all things.

Foster and all of his disciples parrot the idea that Moses Lard was the bad guy for opposing that which  was very rare.  None of the Disciple's preachers agreed with instruments in the beginning being consistent with faith and godliness. But the PLOT is that if anyone says anything against their infiltrating and diverting you make him a BAD PERSON.

Lard's Quarterly, Volume I March 1864

Now that we as a people have agreed to accept the New Testament as that standard is a fact too notorious to admit of question. To this we have consented to bring the smallest point of doctrine, and the most trivial feature in practice. And furthermore, 

we have solemnly covenanted that whatever cannot be clearly shown to have the sanction of this standard shall be held as not doctrine, and shall not be practiced.

We say shown to have the sanction;  for it is not enough to warrant a practice that this standard does not sanction it. No practice can be defended on this ground.

To warrant the holding of a doctrine or practice it must be shown that it has the affirmative or positive sanction of this standard, and not merely that it is not condemned by it.

These are now its spirit and law, and of course, no offense to it. But despite of even these, for now we care nothing for strife, nothing for the feelings of the brethren, we shall insist on the right both for self and others to introduce each for himself the instrument with which he can best conduct his worship. 

For the son of Mars, then, we claim the right to introduce the fife and the drum; and for the self the right to introduce, for I could never make music on anything else, but am capital on these, the Jews-harp, the tin-pan, and the barrel-head.

The urge to resist the 'unity' ploy or friendly fellowship was, from the beginning, based on the demonstrated proof that those willing to sow massive discord intended not unity but confiscation. That is the fact in those few churches Foster and gang have managed to confiscate.

Foster pushes the idea that to DIVIDE over Instrumental Music as worship is wrong. We agree, then why does Foster work so hard in rewriting history to cause MORE division by making instrumental music a NECESSARY term of fellowship if you will not be forced out of your own property.


 
In 1889  Camp Meetings.  Sand Creek.  Summer NOT  lard opposed to im paid preachers, etc. He got a number Address and Declaration. gets elders to read the A&D there are among us.

Introducing Organ, Dancing, three points. Departure FROM the church. Add other debates.

There are among us taught... A%D.  Arrogant.  Protested against.  Against which we protest. IM, Choir, after time for meditation if they will not turen we will not regard them as brethren. think THAT'S where the division took place.

Instrumental Music Inflamatory.  You cannot get away from the ORGAN.  Lard, Sommer, powerful article GA, Firm Foundation.  David Lipscomb got so frustrated with both sides. BECAUSE of the hateful came out on the SIDE

1901 DL Unauthorized, not comm, clean and unholy,  tramples under food. Profane, Rhetoric of Unfaithful.
He was PUSHED to the limit.  Lipscome came across very Abrupt.

Christian Standard.  DL went to Cincinnatti for medical water treatment.  went by to see Errett.  Unannounced. 
So bitter, full of hate that EVEN David Lipscomb, rhetoric of Unfaithful.

1908 debates.  MUCH MORE.

Talk more tomorrow.  Powerful idea set forth Whiteside, Nichols.  Set fort Positive LAW.  If you obey a law because it makes sense then ..... Faithfulness no logical connection.

When you separte the REASON or the POINT of what Christianity is all about. Dangerous.

Pagan.

next WHAT WORSHIP IS.

Isaac Errett.

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