Jay
Guin learned Law from Blackstone, Theology from Flintstone and Bible
from Winestoned. That is because the new PATTERNISM is well
defined on clay tablets 3,000 years before Moses and in BABYLON and in
Jerusalem when God turned them over to worship the starry host
BECAUSE
of musical idolatry at
Mount Sinai and being UTTERLY ABANDONED to a
national, Goyim or Babylonian form of national sacrificial system.
Jacob had pronounced a curse and warning against Levi and told us NOT
to go to any of their assemblies nor to make a covenant with them.
Jay Guin, oneinjesus, Review
Instrumental Music in the Old Testament: Part 2 (Worship)
Instrumental Music in the Old Testament: Part 3 (Worship):
All of what seems to be condemnation of instruments as telling God to shut up are explained as "just a bad mental attitude."
Grace Centered
Magazine: Posts "101
reasons why baptism does not save." Christ in the prophets and Jesus in
direct comman proves that "believeth not" says "I will not
disobey." "Corrupting the Word means 'selling learning at
retail'."
When the "elders" (always) demanded a king set over us (a charismatic
;-) senior pastor) God knew that they wanted to worship like the
nations. God granted their wish but knew that they wanted to WORSHIP
like the nations (the instrumental sectarians. The kings were
given in His anger to carry out the captivity and death sentence
imposed BECAUSE of musical idolatry from which they never repented.
The Monarchy, king, temple and sacrificial system to worship the
starry host represented a nation totally abandoned and without
redemption to set up a Babylonian system. That is why all older
illustrations show the temple as a Tower of Babylon. First
Samuel Eight begins the PROPHETS under
the leadership of Christ in mortal combat with the
Civil-Military-Clergy complex Christ identifies as parasites and
robbers.
WATCH FOR: WHILE SOME ARE BOASTING ABOUT SAVING YOUR LAMBS, DO
THEY HAVE MERCHANDISE TO SELL?
Have you noticed that the Apha Males on one side are SELLING persons or
books by sowing discord against the Alpha Males whose sheep they want.
Jesus warned about that. I don't call people hypocrites but is
there some reason they defend what Jesus Christ in prophecy and
fulfillment identifying as not lifting a finger to help others.
IS THERE A SPIRIT DRIVING PEOPLE TO DEFEND AND PROTECT THAT WHICH
GOD ABANDONED THE JEWS TO?
UPDATED 5.03.10 Jay
Guin The Holy Spirit and Revolutionary Grace.
As far as I can determine Nashville Bible School or LU under H. Leo
Boles invented the fatal heresy (defined as anti-christ by John) that
the godhead is made up of three separated "people" able to hold
communion with one another. Of course this communion is well
defined
by Jesus where the Father (within) supplied Spirit (breat) and the Son
IS the articulated Word. No classical trinitarian ever thought that the
Spirit OF Christ was another "people."
John Mark Hicks
etal still keeps up the heresy which is way outside of the field of
scholarship.
By denying God's right to command, example and even
infer for the
spiritual mind, the ANTI-patternists patternists take OWNERSHIP of the Levite
singers and instrument players which have a rationale ONLY in
Jerusalem and ONLY outside but never INSIDE of the enhanced Jebusite
High Place for the worship of the stars. The Levites were an old
infant burning cult in Egypt and when they added the BURNT OFFERING it
was a way to slow the burning of infants. They were burning
infants just BEFORE the PROOF-EXAMPLE and they were burning infants as
soon as Hezekiah died.
The Old Wineskin was the worshipers of Zeus and Dionysus as the
abomination of desolation. These men were gay troubadors. The Jews had
a "covenant with death" and Amos defines the Marzeah which was a
festival with and for the dead.
Jesus said that the NEW JUICE would not fit in the prevailing religion
of the Scribes and Pharisees whom Jesus identified as hypocrites and
named rhetoricians, singers and instrument players in Ezekiel 33.
LEST WE FOLLOW THE RED HERRING AND RESPOND
TO THE ANTI-PATS AS SERIOUS.
ANTI-patternism has only ONE PIECE they want to add to their dress
pattern: singing and playing instruments with all of the virtual
impulses of dance which is included in the word "music." This is
defined by the Vineyard as a sexual-like climactic experience with the
"spirit" which if quickly followed by the pattern act of "giving of
substance." So, don't be shocked that all recored history
connects religious performers with shamans able to "bring you into the
presence of God" as musical worship teams were discordingly-introduced
to do.
HERE IS THE ONLY RECORDED PERSONA OF THE NEW WINESKIN ALSO CONNECTED TO
THE JUDAS BAG.
Shamans or prophesied existed from the earliest recorded history: they
spread the message that the gods were dangerous and an ordinary mortal
could not be a god handler without qualifications. "Religion" has
always been tainted and that is why Jesus Christ set up a School of the
Word even in the wilderness after the Israelites fell backward to a
perverted view which is first seen in the Garden of Eden where Christ
personifies the king of Tyre as Lucifer, the singing and harp playing
prostitute, in the garden of Eden. Eve was "deceived" and Paul speaks
of being "wholly seduced" while Abraham "went willingly."
"The development both of
religion and of the arts
can be traced back in a continuous line to the hunting era. The group ritual of the primeval tribesmen were the origin not only of all
religious ceremonial, but also of the drama and of poetry and music, while magic gave birth to the visual arts." (Parkes, Henry Bamford, On Gods and
Men, p. 30).
"Awed by the mysteries of his own
spirit no less
than by
those of nature, primitive man was likely to attribute to divine
influence any abnormal emotional state, whether above or below the usual
level. Medicine men customarily went into states of trance in which they were believed to be in communication with the
gods, and many tribes supposed lunatics and sexual deviants to be divinely possessed.
Fool also called JESTER, a comic entertainer whose madness
or imbecility, real or pretended, made him a source of amusement and
gave him license to abuse
and poke
fun at even the
most exalted of his patrons. Professional
fools flourished from the days of the Egyptian pharaohs
until well into the 18th century, finding a place in societies as
diverse as that of the Aztecs of Mexico and the courts of medieval
Europe.
Often deformed, dwarfed, or crippled, fools may have been kept for luck as well as for amusement, in the belief that deformity can avert
the evil
eye and that abusive raillery can
transfer ill luck
from
the abused to the
abuser. Fool
figures
played a part in the religious rituals of India and pre-Christian
Europe, and, in some societies, such as that of Ireland in the 7th
century BC, they were regarded as being inspired with poetic and
prophetic powers.
The raillery of the fool and his frequent ritual association with a mocking suggest that he may have originated as a sacrificial
scapegoat
substituted
for a royal
victim.
The speakers, singers and
instrument players in Revelation 18 under the Babylon mother of harlots
are called sorcerers: the word pharmakon identifies the same scapegoat
in Babylon. Under the worship of the astrial deities in Jerusalem, the
GOATS (Rick Atchley's patternism) were scapegoates or "demons" imposed
after the Nadab and Abihu experience. The
image is of the final garment in David's "making himself vile"
with the girls as he he "performed the role of a woman."
A
resemblance between the sacrificial
garments of
ancient
ritual and the costume of a household jester in the Middle Ages--coxcomb, eared hood, bells, and bauble,
with a motley coat--has been noted
In most early societies,
moreover, men
evolved techniques
for deliberaly inducing the abnormal forms of consciousness in which they supposed themselves to achieve union with divine power, sometimes by the use of drugs and other
physiological
stimuli, sometimes by hypnotic
dances and music. The wild utterances
to which they gave vent on such occasions were regarded as the words
of a god and were interpreted as divine commands or predictions of
future events." (Parkes, p. 32-33).
Did
a spirit really speak to Rick Atchley?
Many peoples attributed
any violent or unusual emotion to one
of the
gods as a matter
of course; the
individual was then no longer held responsiblie for his actions,
though the gods were sometimes mischievous or even malevolent and the
result might be catastrophic." (Parkes, p. 33).
"The flash of insight that
enabled an
individual to achieve an original act of creation, whether in art or in
technology, was always mysterious, and for early mankind it could be
due only to the intervention of a god. Long after the advent of
civilization, in fact, poets continued
to believe that they wrote from divine dictation; inventors attributed their
discoveries to divine aid."
(Parkes, p. 34).
The Nicene Creed identifies ONE GOD who is invisible, inaudible
Whom we cannot see or hear. The Son is Jesus of Nazareth as "a body
prepared for me" meaning to be the image of the invisible. The
father thinks, the spirit breathes and the son articulates. Jesus
explains that in John 14 so that it cannot be misunderstood unless
Jesus simple refuses to reveal the Father.
The Hebrew scriptural verse (Exodus 22:
17) M'KHSHEYFAH LO
T'CHIYEH for example, has for centuries been haphazardly translated
as 'You shall not suffer a witch to live,' when literally it
translates: 'You should not SUSTAIN a witch,' meaning don't get
into the habit of supporting the livelihood
of the village magician; don't let some guy with a lot of
supernatural power drain you of your savings through fear and intimidation.
Let him get a job like everybody else, and
perform his magic out of the goodness of his heart and in recognition
of the sacred gift he possesses. Another translation of the exact
same Hebrew wording would be: 'From sorcery you should not live,' as
in don't base your entire life and all of your affairs on the powers
of sorcery, or, don't make a living from it." (From "MAGIC OF THE
ORDINARY by Rabbi Gershon Winkler (C) 2001.)
Don't support people performing sorcery (speakers, singers or
instrument players) plying the craftiness. But, the ONLY patternism for
hallucinating music in the School of the Word when Christ outlawed it
is the infantile desire to be a sorcery for a lifing.
A PAINTED PICTURE OF THE END-TIME
PATTERNISM WHEN PSEUDO-SCHOLARS REFUTE THE WORD OF THE BIBLE.
Ritualizing
is something a congenital PATTERNISM: children grow up imiting things
they see in the world as a way go grow ffrom the infantile state.
However, Jesus came to de-ritualize us from the pre-civilization
shamans
2Th. 2:9 Even him,
whose coming is after the working of Satan
with all power and signs and lying
wonders,
2Th. 2:10 And with all
deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that
perish;
because
they received not the love of the truth, that they
might be saved.
2Th. 2:11 And for this cause God
shall send them strong delusion,
that they
should believe a lie:
2Th. 2:12 That they
all might be damned who believed not the truth,
but had
pleasure in unrighteousness.
EVIL WORKERS ALWAYS USE CEREMONIES AND DEVICES
Of Ceremonial objects: On
occasion, objects have been used to compel
the sacred (or divine) realm to act
or react in a way that is favourable to the
participants of the ceremonies or to the persons or activities with
which such rituals are concerned,
or to
prevent the transcendent realm from harming or endangering them.
These objects thus can be mediatory devices to contact the divine world,
as, for example, the drums of
shamans
(religious
personages with healing and psychic-transformation powers).
Conversely, they
can be mediatory devices used by a god
or
other supernatural being to relate to man in the profane realm.
They may also be
used to ensure that a
chief or
sovereign of a tribe or nation achieves,
and is
recognized to have, the status of divinity in cultic or community ceremonies. Of such a
nature may be phallic cults.
A musical instrument is defined as "a machine for doing hard work"
mostly in making war or creating the shock and awe of religioous
ceremonial.
The Marzeah in Amos 5
"The marzeah had an extremely
long history extending at least from the 14th century B.C. through
the Roman period. In the 14th century B.C., it was prominently
associated with the ancient Canaanite city of Ugarit (modern Ras
Shamra), on the coast of Syria...
The marzeah was a pagan ritual that took the form of a social
and religious association... Some scholars regard the funerary marzeah as a feast for--and
with--deceased ancestors (or Rephaim, a proper name in the Bible for the inhabitants of Sheol)." (King, Biblical Archaeological
Review, Aug, 1988, p. 35, 35)
"These five elements are:
........(1) reclining or relaxing,
........(2) eating a meat meal,
........(3) singing with harp or other musical
accompaniment,
........(4) drinking wine and
........(5) anointing oneself with oil." (King,
p. 37).
"In pagan traditions,
musical instruments are invented by gods
or demi-gods, such as titans. In the Bible, credit is assigned to antediluvian
patriarchs, for example, the descendants of Cain in Genesis 4:21.
There is no other
biblical tradition about
the invention of musical instruments." (Freedman, David Noel, Bible
Review, Summer 1985, p. 51).
Cain HANDLES musical
instruments meaning WITHOUT AUTHORITY and carrying a sexual connotation.
THE WORKING OF SATAN
Jesus didn't command any WORKINGS because
"He paid it all." Jesus destroyed the laded burdens by casting
out the Burden Laders using a term "like dung" of the musical
minstrels. A "burden" is a song that repeats the chorus and it vain
babbling intend NOT to teach that which is written. A burden
cheats spiritual anxiety through religious ritual. The REST word
outlaws religious operations. THEREFORE, if you are are an ANTI-PAT
patternist then you are doing the working of Satan who was Lucifer the
singing and harp playing prostitute in the garden of Eden.
2 Thessalonisns 2.[11] ideo
mittit
illis
Deus
operationem
erroris
ut
credant
mendacio
Opĕrātĭo
, ōnis, f. operor,
I.
a working, work, LABOR operation
A.
A religious performance, service,
or
solemnity,
a bringing of offerings: operationes
denicales, offerings,
Fest. s. v.
privatae feriae [Purification, funeral], p. 242 Müll.;
Inscr. a. 286, p. Chr. ap. Orell.
2234.—
B.
In Christian authors, beneficence, charity,
Lact.
6, 12; Prud.
Psych. 573.
DOES ANYONE WORK HARDER TO PERFORM
RELIGION THAT MUSICIANS?
Energeia physiological function, activity,
of drugs,activity, of drugs,
b. workmanship, 3. pl., “energeiai”
cosmic forces, magical operations of the worship shrine.
physiological function, activity, of drugs,
Hieos SPOUDE, Workmanship, a mechanism
Spoude haste speed, II. zeal,
pains, trouble, effort, exert oneself, take pains, be eager, zeal
for the conflicting arguments,
Hieros I. filled with or manifesting
divine power, supernatural,
any religious ceremony which is outlawed by the Laded Burden Jesus
outlawed. A servant of a shrine, Nethinim, templecourtesans at Coringh
and elsewhere, also of men Hiero-doulos
- God turned Israel (Civil-Military-Clergy) over to
worship the STARRY HOST.
- The Levites service, dress and presentation was "in
the form of women" as was David's naked dance.
- Star Worship was involved in Hezekiah's temple
exorcism with Levites instruments during the BURNING OF THE
GOATS
- Rick Atchley said "a
spirit" told him that God commanded instrumental praise in HIS church
using this PATTERNISM.
- Christ in the prophets said that God had NOT
commanded sacrifices or burnt offerings.
- Therefore, the musical ANTI-PATS have
been abandoned to the worship of Helios (Lucifer, Zoe).
Strab. 11.4.7 As for gods, they honor Helius,1 Zeus, and Selene,2 but especially Selene;3
her temple is near Iberia.
The office of priest is held by the man
who,
after the king, is held in highest honor;
he has charge of the sacred
land, which is extensive and well-populated, and also of the temple
slaves, many of whom are subject to religious frenzy and utter
prophecies. And any one of those who, becoming violently possessed,
wanders alone in the forests, is by the priest arrested, bound with
sacred fetters, and sumptuously maintained during that year, and then
led forth to the sacrifice that is performed in honor of the goddess,
and, being anointed, is sacrificed along with other victims. The
sacrifice is performed as follows: Some person holding a sacred lance,
with which it is the custom to sacrifice human victims, comes forward
out of the crowd and strikes the victim through the side into the
heart, he being not without experience in such a task; and when the
victim falls, they draw auguries from his fall4
and declare them before the public; and when the body is carried to a
certain place, they all trample upon it, thus using it as a means of
purification.
The ANTI-PATS probably led by Rubel Shelly
claims Corinth as their PATTERNISM for Unity in Diversity.
Professional religionists called the Mad Women of Corinth were
well known and Paul guarded against them in 1 Corinthians 14.
Strab. 8.6.20 And the temple of Aphrodite [ZOE]
was so rich that it owned more than a
thousand temple slaves, courtesans, whom both men and women had
dedicated to the goddess. And therefore it was also on
account of these
women that the city was crowded with people and grew rich; for
instance, the ship captains freely squandered their money, and hence
the proverb, “"Not for every man is the voyage to Corinth."”Source unknown
Moreover, it is recorded that a certain courtesan said to the woman who
reproached her with the charge that she did not like to work or touch
wool: "Yet, such as I am, in this short time I have taken down three
webs."
Note: That is, "finished
three webs." But there is a word play in katheilon histous
which cannot be reproduced in English. The words may also mean "lowered
three masts," that is, "debauched three ship captains."
THE MARKS OF SATAN
Satan
hence as chief of the evil spirits, the
Devil, 2 Ep.Cor.12.7
WHY CHRIST GAVE MATURE GIFTED MEN
TO SET THE CHURCH IN ORDER
Plato, Sophist 239e Well, if you like, let
us say no more of you and me; but until we find
someone who can accomplish this, let us confess that the sophist
has in
most rascally fashion hidden himself in a place we cannot
explore.
Eph. 4:11 And he gave some, apostles; and some,
prophets; and some, evangelists;
and some, pastors and teachers;
Eph. 4:12 For the perfecting of the saints,
for the work of the
ministry,
for the edifying of the
body of Christ: [Education]
Eph. 4:13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith,
and of the
knowledge of the Son of God,
unto a perfect man, unto the
measure of
the stature of the fulness of Christ:
TO PREVENT BEING CARRIED AWAY BY CUNNING CRAFTSMEN:
Eph. 4:14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and
fro,
and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men,
and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
Panourgos I.ready to do anything
wicked, knavish, villanous, II. in a less positively bad
sense, cunning, crafty, clever, smart.l Hypocrite, the art of delivery, Actor's
part Sophos Pl.R.409c
Plat. Rep. 409c For he who has a good soul
is good. But that cunning fellow quick to suspect evil,1
and who has himself done many unjust acts and who thinks himself a
smart trickster, when he associates with his like does appear to be
clever, being on his guard and fixing his eyes on the patterns within himself. But
when the time comes for him to mingle with the good and his elders,
PAUL ALWAYS DEFINES THE SOLE ROLE OF THE ASSEMBLY:
Eph. 4:15 But speaking the truth in love,
may grow up into him in all
things, which is the head, even Christ:
Eph. 4:16 From whom the whole body fitly joined together
and compacted by that which every
joint supplieth,
WHAT DOES PAUL EXCLUDE FROM ANY ROLE IN
THE CHURCH?
Sophis-tês , ou, ho, A.master
of one's craft, adept, expert, of diviners, Hdt.2.49;
of poets, meletan sophistais prosbalon Pi.I.5(4).28
, cf. Cratin.2; of musicians, sophistês . . para paiôn chelun,
[play the harp] 3. later of the rhêtores, Professors of
Rhetoric, and prose writers of the Empire, Hieros Melos Religious melody in a
religious house of worship.
Melete painful exercise c.
freq. of orators, rehearsal, declamation, “tautēs tēs meletēs kai tēs epimeleias”
D.18.309, al.; of
actors, nēsteis ontes tas m. poioumenoi
making their rehearsals
Mantis of Apollo and Cassandra, Id.Ag.1275; of
the Pythian priestess, Id.Eu.29;
Of Dionysus--The OLD WINESKIN.
The Khoros choir, band of dancers and singers
in public religious ceremonies.
Pind. N. 5 it is not always beneficial for
the precise truth to show her face, and
silence is often the wisest thing for a man to heed.
But if it is resolved to praise wealth, or the strength of hands, or
iron war, [20] let someone mark off a long jump for me from this point.
I have a light spring in my knees, and eagles swoop over the sea. The
most beautiful chorus of Muses sang gladly for the Aeacids on Mt.
Pelion, and among them Apollo, sweeping the seven-tongued lyre with a
golden plectrum, [25] led all types of strains. And the Muses began
with a prelude to Zeus, then sang first of divine Thetis and of Peleus;
how Hippolyte, the opulent daughter of Cretheus, wanted to trap him
with deceit. With elaborate planning she persuaded her husband, the
watcher of the Magnesians, to be a partner in her plot, and she forged
a false story.
Harmonia Away of joining or chaining
together: IV. in Music, stringing, “ha. toxou kai luras” Heraclit.51, cf. Pl.Smp.187a:
hence, method of stringing, musical scale, Philol.6,
etc., Nicom.Harm.9; esp. octave,
“ek pasōn oktō ousōn phōnōn mian ha. sumphōnein”
Pl.R.617b; “hepta khordai hē ha.” Arist. Metaph.1093a14,
cf. Pr.919b21; of the planetary
spheres, in Pythag. theory, Cael.290b13, Mu.399a12,
etc.
2. generally, music, “autō de tō rhuthmō mimountai khōris ha
PAUL SAID OF CORINTH--THE PATTERNISM OF
UNITY IN DIVERSITY--PEOPLE WILL THINK YOU ARE MANTIS: Mad
GOD IS NOT WORSHIPPED IN HOUSES BUILT BY HUMAN HANDS OR BY
THE WORKS OR WORDS OF MAN.
Jay
Guin and the Pity Patternists preach JUST JESUS as the only pattern but
Jesus Christ preached the Gospel OF THE KINGDOM of Christ which is the
Church of Christ. The way to KNOW ABOUT Jesus is to follow
the ONE PIECE PATTERN in the Great Commission is the absolute CENI
because even the Lord's Supper is a teaching or evangelism effort: the
only preaching allowed in the assembled church.
JESUS DIDN'T SAY THAT YOU CAN FOLLOW THE MUSICAL PATTERNISM
OF THE KOSMOS: HE JUST SAID THAT THE FATHER WILL NEVER SPEAK TO OR
THROUGH YOU.
03/20/2010
by
Jay Guin
March -
April, 2010
Jay
Guin: The
gospel is what we must believe and confess to be saved. We are saved
through faith in Jesus and commitment to him as Lord (repentance).
And
that
doesn’t change just because we’ve been baptized. The faith and
repentance that brought us to Jesus will keep us in Jesus—so long as we
don’t attempt to improve on God’s new covenant.
Rom 6:17 But God be thanked, that ye were
the servants of sin,
but ye
have obeyed
from
the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered
you.
Rom 6:18 Being then made free from
sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.
Rom 6:22 But now being
made free
from sin, and become servants to God,
ye have
your fruit unto holiness, and the end
everlasting life.
Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin is death;
but the gift
of God is eternal life
through Jesus
Christ our Lord.
John would prepare
the way for Messiah for
the FINAL realization of the COVENANT made to Abraham:
Luke 1:72 To
perform the mercy promised to our fathers,
and to remember
his holy
convenant;
Luke 1:73 The
oath which he sware to our father
Abraham,
Luke 1:74 That
he would grant unto us,
........... that we, being delivered out of the hand
of our enemies,
........... might serve him
without fear,
Luke 1:75 In
holiness
and righteousness before him, all the days of our life.
Luke 1:76 And
thou, child, shalt be called the prophet of the Highest:
........... for thou shalt go
before the face of the Lord to
prepare his ways;
Luke 1:77 To give
knowledge of salvation unto his people by
the remission
of their sins,
Luke 1:78 Through
the tender mercy of our God; whereby
the dayspring
from on high
hath visited us,
Luke 1:79 To
give light to
them that sit in darkness and in the shadow of
death,
........... to guide our feet into the
way of peace.
Jesus gave the Apostles
commands to preach to
ALL NATIONS to begin at Jerusalem. The COVENANT made with Abraham was
stated in the "baptism" passage restated as CONVERSION:
Acts 3:19 Repent ye therefore, and be
converted,
........... that your sins may be
blotted out,
........... when the times of refreshing shall come from
the presence of the Lord;
Acts 3:20
And
he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you:
Acts 3:21
Whom
the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all
things,
........... which God hath spoken
by the mouth of all his holy
prophets since the world began.
Acts 3:22
For
Moses truly said unto the fathers,
........... A prophet shall the
Lord your God raise up unto you of
your brethren, like unto me;
........... him shall ye
hear in all
things whatsoever he shall say unto you.
Acts 3:23
And
it shall come to pass,
........... that every
soul, which will
not hear that
prophet,
........... shall be
destroyed from among the people.
Acts 3:24
Yea,
and all the prophets from Samuel and those that follow after, as many
as have spoken, have likewise foretold of these days.
Acts 3:25 Ye
are
the children of the prophets,
........... and of the covenant
which God made with our fathers,
........... saying unto
Abraham,
........... And in thy seed shall
all the kindreds of the earth be
blessed.
Acts 3:26 Unto
you first
God, having raised up his Son Jesus,
........... sent him to bless you,
in turning away
every one of
you from his
iniquities.
Jay Guin: We
worship
God because he deserves our worship and because of what he did (and
does) for us! True worship comes from love and devotion, not fear of
damnation. And when we teach that we must worship according to a
pattern to stay saved, we replace the new covenant with a man-made
covenant that has the same defects as the Mosaic covenant. Indeed, we
teach another gospel.
As long as the doctors of the law refuse to
read the Bible we will have worship wars between two failed, mercinary
patternisms. Jesus said that we no longer (never did in a spiritual
sense) in houses on YOUR mountain or OUR mountain: Salvation (Yeshua)
is from the Jews and is not a Samaritan.
Jesus defined worship as IN SPIRIT which Paul said is IN THE SPIRIT as
opposed to IN THE FLESH: if you flailing around in public rather than
on your knees in the directly commanded CLOSET then you are doing body
worship
which accruse to all religious musicians and music in paganism. The
Wimber's Vineyard confiscated by New Wineskins promotes music to bring
about a sexualy-like experience with the spirit.
Christ for The Church of Christ in the wilderness called the common
people into assembly in small groups to REST, read and rehearse the
Word. Christians are made DISCIPLES and not ceremonial legalists. The
synagogue continued OUTSIDE of the curse of the sacrificial system: the
ANTI-patternists use the GOAT BURNING noise by the Levites as a
"spirit" telling THEM that God has now commanded HIM to impose that
kind of worship on his congregation. Christ who defined the
PATTERN to command us not to pay money for the free water of the Word
and outlawed seeking our own pleasure or even speaking our own words.
You may
want to read John 4 where Jesus
EXCISED everything we bundle into the ritual of an INSTITUTE robbing
the DESTITUTE to support what all religions in paganism called
PARASITES.
Jay Guin: Galatians: salvation
not through law
Paul teaches in Galatians that Christians may not seek salvation through
obedience to a law. You see, Paul writes,
You
who are trying to be justified by law have been alienated from Christ;
you have fallen away from grace. 5 But by faith we eagerly await
through the Spirit the righteousness for which we hope (Galatians
5:4-5).
Obeying the commands of Christ is not obeying the Law: The
Law was IMPOSED because of musical idolatry at Mount Sinai. ALL of the
musical patternism being promoted to trash those who never used music,
is the worship of the STARRY HOST. This was purely related to the
FLESH as is theatrical performance. Therefore, those who promote
instruments are TRYING to be justified by the LAW of Moses.
The only people I am aware of trying to be justified by THE
LAW are the one's imposing the GOAT (Cappellas) BURNING noise which was
never called music and which Christ in the never-read prophets said was
NOT commanded.
Gal. 5:4 Christ is become of no effect unto you,
whosoever of you are justified by
the law; ye are fallen from grace.
Gal. 5:5 For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of
righteousness by faith.
Gal. 5:6 For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth anything,
or uncircumcision; but
faith which worketh by love. [Energeo: be actif,
shew forth, work]
Gal. 5:7 Ye did run well; who did hinder you that ye should not
obey the truth?
When people try to say that
obeying Jesus Christ is trying to be justified by THE LAW what shall we
say?
Gal 3:15 Brethren, I speak after
the manner of men;
Though it be
but a mans covenant, yet if it be confirmed,
no man disannulleth, or
addeth thereto.
Gal
3:17 And this I
say, that
the covenant,
that was confirmed before of God
in Christ,
the law, which was
four hundred and thirty years after,
cannot disannul, that
it should make the promise of none effect.
Gen. 26:3 Sojourn in this land, and I will be with
thee, and will bless thee;
for unto thee, and unto thy seed,
I will give all these countries,
and I will perform the oath which
I sware unto Abraham thy father;
Gen. 26:4 And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven,
and will give unto thy seed all
these countries;
and in thy seed shall all
the nations of the earth be blessed;
Gen. 26:5 Because that Abraham
obeyed my voice,
and
kept my charge,
my commandments,
my statutes,
and my laws.
Gen. 26:6 And Isaac dwelt in Gerar:
We are under the same Covenant made to Abraham
who was justified by faith when he obeyed God's laws but not THE LAWS
of Moses:
Gal 3:26 For
ye
are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
Gal 3:27 For as many of you as
have been baptized into
Christ have put on
Christ.
Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew
nor Greek, there
is neither bond nor free,
there is neither male nor female:
for ye
are all one in Christ Jesus.
Gal 3:29 And if ye be Christs,
then are ye Abrahams seed, and heirs
according to the promise
Paul
had more to say to prove that the New Whineskinners failed to read the
rest of the text:
Gal 5:12 As for those agitators, I
wish they would go the whole way and emasculate themselves!
Here is what an agitator does: He PLANS to drive out the owners.
Anastatoo (g387)
an-as-tat-o'-o; from a
der. of 450 (in the sense of removal);
prop. to drive out of home, i.e. (by impl.) to disturb (lit. or
fig.): -
trouble, turn upside down, make an uproar, to stir up, excite, unsettle
to excite tumults and seditions in the state to upset,
unsettle, minds by disseminating religious error
The Cross means: figuratively to extinguish
(subdue) passion or selfishness:
Only as a methaphor has PSALLO ever musical meant more than SHOOT
SOMEONE WITH A SONG.
PSALLO
I. In gen., to play upon
a stringed instrument; esp., to play upon the cithara, to sing to the
cithara: psallere saltare elegantius, [carry
away] 1. to convey away (from the family) by bequest, to
bequeath away,
That is what the PSALLO people INTEND to do.
THEY ALL LIE ABOUT EVERY BIBLICAL OR HISTORICAL EVIDENCE BECAUSE
THEY ARE LIARS.
HERE IS THE PRACTICE AND THE PEOPLE DEFINED AS AGITATORS:
Melpô, Sing
or celebrate a song and
dance Melos 2.music to which a song is set, tune 3. melody of
an
instrument, Mouso-polos, on, A.serving the Muses, poetic II.
Subst.,
bard, minstrel,
AS THE: Aoidos A.singer, minstrel, bard, 3.enchanter, Eunouchos
A.castrated person, eunuch, employed to take
charge of the women
Gallos,
ho, A. priest of Cybele, Used with: Pempô ,
2. pompên p. conduct, or take part in, a procession, chorous
move in dancing procession, phallos Dionusôi
pempomenos carried in procession in
his honour
Jay
Guin: By
adding circumcision as a requirement to be saved, the Galatians chose a
salvation based on works rather than faith — and if you seek salvation
through works at all, you must get all works right (5:3), and no one can meet such a
test. To quote Adam Clarke, “It’s either law and no Christ; or Christ
and no law.”
Col. 2:11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the
circumcision made without hands,
in putting off the body of the
sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:
Col. 2:12 Buried with him in baptism,
wherein also ye are risen with
him through the faith of the operation of God,
who hath raised him from the
dead.
Col. 2:13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of
your flesh,
hath he quickened together with
him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
Col. 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against
us,
which was contrary to us, and
took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
Col. 2:15 And having spoiled principalities and powers,
he made a shew of them openly,
triumphing over them in it.
That assuredly outlaws John Mark Hicks inviting God to feast with us
while we burn the fat. It excludes the GOAT BURING instruments
which Christ said was not commanded. That excludes musical
minstrels whom Jesud "put out" more or less violently as one 'ejects
dung.' That assuredly excludes the perverted dionysus people PIPING
hoping others would sing and dance with them.
Jay Guin: However,
in the Churches of Christ, we’ve traditionally taught that the New
Testament establishes a pattern of name, worship,
organization, and
such that we must correctly replicate to be the true church. Thus, we
become saved by believing, repenting, confessing, and being baptized,
but stay saved by also being a member of a church that replicates the
New Testament pattern of name, worship, and organization, among other
doctrines. But how is seeking salvation through pattern-keeping—plainly
a
form of works—any different from seeking salvation through
circumcision?
Well, we MUST be circumcised IN SPIRIT by
obeying that FORM of doctrine and only THEN being free from sin. That
FORM of teaching is TUPOS which means "A pattern capable of being
imitated."
Jay Guin: Hebrews:
not fleshly regulations
Hebrews
demonstrates the
weakness of Mosaic worship and
the necessity to replace it with something vastly superior by comparing
worship under the two covenants.
The OLD COVENANT was NOT the Law
of Moses: the Law of Moses turned primarily the cursed tribe of Levi
over to worship the starry host. There was nothing other than
Babylonianism in the so-called Mosaic Worship. The worship
under the Monarchy was not based on The Law of Moses which was purely a
civil institution to keep the parasites from enslaving the godly
people: they attended the church or synagogue each REST day to hear and
learn the Word of God (only)
The Old Covenant, we learn from reading Hebrews was connected to the
Tabernacle. The Tabernacle was dismantled when God gave David
Zion as a place for a TENT but dumb Solomon built Him a house on Moriah
where God had ALREADY provided.
By calling this covenant “new,” he has made the
first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and aging will soon disappear
Jay Quin: Now the first
covenant had regulations for worship and also
an earthly sanctuary Hebrews 9:11
After the Nadab and Abihu experiment of going close to
the holy place to burn incense,, the Tabernacle became OFF LIMITS to
everyone but the tribe of Levi. Any Levite who came close or in a holy
place was to be exercuted.
Now, WATCH OUT for Lawyers:
Paul: Heb. 9:1KJV Then verily the first covenant
had also
ordinances of divine service, and a worldly sanctuary.
Jesus said that doctors take away the key to knowledge and SWITCHING
the also you miss the whole point.
Hebrews 9.1ASV Now indeed even the first covenant
had
ordinances of divine
service, and an earthly sanctuary.
These are ORDINANCES of JUSTIFICATION.
Justĭfĭcātĭo
, ōnis, f. justifico,
I. justification
(late Lat.), Salv. Avar. 3, 2;
Aug. Civ. Dei, 16, 36.—
Numbers 9.3 [3] On the fourteenth day of this
month, at
evening, you shall keep it in its appointed season-- according to all
its statutes, and according to all its ordinances, you shall keep it."
We are justified by His death but we are SAVED by HIS
LIFE.
The
ONLY Spiritual Covenant was made by Christ to Abraham: that was
restated as The Book of The Covenant of Grace at Mount Sinai. The
Israelites turned back to the musical idolatry of the Egyptian trinity
under the Golden Calf. God then turned them over to worship the starry
host. The Monarchy was permitted as a curse and God turned
them back over to Babylonianism.
THERE WERE NO INSTRUMENTS AT OR IN THE
TABERNACLE ORDAINED AS A PATTERN
Heb 9:1 THEN
verily
the first covenant had also
ordinances of
divine service, and a worldly sanctuary.
For
there was a tabernacle made; the first,
wherein
was the candlestick, and the table, and the shewbread;
which is called the sanctuary.
G4633 skēnē skay-nay'
Apparently akin to G4632 and G4639 ; a tent or cloth hut
(literally or figuratively):--habitation, tabernacle.
No
singer or musician
could enter this PARABLE of the body or church of Christ EVEN TO CLEAN
OUT GARBAGE left over from Assyrian musical worship and burning of
infant.
Heb 9:3 And
after
the second veil,
............ the tabernacle
which is called the Holiest of all;
The Tables of the
Covenant was in the Ark of
the Covenant and were lost:
Heb 9:4 Which
had
the golden
censer, and the ark of the
covenant
overlaid round about with
gold, wherein was the golden
pot that
had manna, and Aarons rod that budded,
and the tables
of the
covenant;
G2369
thumiastērion thoo-mee-as-tay'-ree-on From a derivative of G2370 ; a
place of fumigation, that is, the altar of incense (in the
Temple):—censer.
Heb 9:9 Which
was a figure for
the time then
present,
............ in which were offered
both gifts
and sacrifices,
............ that could not make him
that did the service perfect,
............ as pertaining to the
conscience;
Heb 9:10 Which
stood
only in meats
and drinks,
and divers washings,
........... and carnal
ordinances,
............IMPOSED on
them until the time of reformation.
WE ARE JUSTIFIED WHEN CHRIST TOOK HIS BLOOD INTO THE HEAVENLY
TABERNACLE: Justified does NOT mean saved.
But those
things, which God before had shewed by the mouth of all
his prophets,
............ that Christ
should suffer,
he hath so fulfilled. Acts 3:18
Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that
your sins may be blotted out,
............ when the times
of refreshing shall come
from the presence of the Lord; Acts
3:19
............ And he shall send
Jesus Christ, which before
was preached unto you: Acts 3:20
IF YOU DENY OBEDIENCE TO BE CONVERTED OR SAVED YOU DENY CHRIST
FULLY
The BLOOD of bulls and GOATS was LITERAL but had only ceremonial
value.
The BLOOD of Jesus
Christ was LITERAL
blood.
If you say that WATER
was symbolic do you REALLY want to say that BLOOD of JESUS was just
symbolic?
Heb 9:11 But
Christ being come an high priest of good things to come,
............ by a greater and more
perfect tabernacle,
............ not made with
hands, that is to say, not of this
building;
G5499
cheiropoiētos khi-rop-oy'-ay-tos From G5495 and a derivative of G4160 ;
manufactured, that is, of human construction:—made by (make with)—
hands.
Heb 9:12 Neither
by the blood of goats and calves,
............ but by his own blood
he entered in once into the holy place,
............ having obtained
eternal redemption for us.
Rick Atchley and ALL of the ANTI-petternists specificially LIFTS his
pattern from the burning of the GOATS which were NEVER commanded. They
came along with being abandoned to worship the starry host.
JUSTIFICATION means ceremonially pure--those who live right and
practice justice ARE acceptable or justified: they do not have to be
circumcised and keep the Law of Moses.
Paul told the Roman Jews
that they had been blinded by the Law and would not be able to read BLACK
text on BROWN
paper until they converted or were baptized into Christ.
1Pe.3:18 For
Christ
also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust,
.............that he might bring us to God,
............ being put to
death in the flesh,
............ but quickened by the
Spirit:
1 Pet. 3:19 By
which also
he went and preached
unto the spirits in
prison;
1 Pet. 3:20 Which sometime were
disobedient,
when once the
longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a
preparing, wherein few, that is, eight
souls were saved by water.
Diasozo
(g1295) dee-as-odze'-o; from 1223 and 4982; to
save
thoroughly, i.e. (by impl. or anal.) to cure, preserve, rescue, etc.:
- bring safe, escape (safe), heal, make perfectly whole, save.
1 Pet. 3:21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth
also now save us
(not
the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer
[REQUEST FOR] of
a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus
Christ:
Suneidesis (g4893)
soon-i'-day-sis; from a prol. form of 4894;
co- perception, i.e. moral consciousness; - conscience.
Suneido (g4894) soon-i'-do;
from 4862 and 1492;
to see completely; used (like its prim.) only in two past tenses,
respectively mean. to understand or become aware, and to be conscious
or (clandestinely) informed of: - consider, know, be privy, be ware
of.
Heb 9:15 And
for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament,
............ that by means of death,
............ for the redemption
of the transgressions
............ that were under the first testament, they
............ which are called might
receive the promise
of eternal inheritance.
Rom 6:17 But God be thanked, that ye were
the servants of sin,
but ye
have obeyed
from
the heart that form [pattern] of doctrine which was delivered
you.
Rom 6:18 Being then made free from
sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.
Rom 6:22 But now being
made free
from sin, and become servants to God,
ye have
your fruit unto holiness, and the end
everlasting life.
Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin is death;
but the gift
of God is eternal life
through Jesus
Christ our Lord.
G2564 kaleō kal-eh'-o Akin to the base of G2753 ; to
“call”
(properly aloud, but used in a variety of applications, directly or
otherwise):--bid, call (forth), (whose, whose sur-) name (was [called]).
G2753 keleuō kel-yoo'-o From a primary word κέλλω kellō
(to urge on); “hail”; to incite
by word, that is, order:—bid, (at, give) command (-ment).
Promise is: G1860 epaggelia ep-ang-el-ee'-ah From G1861 ;
an announcement (for
information, assent or pledge; especially a divine assurance of
good):--message, promise.
G1861 epaggellō ep-ang-el'-lo From G1909 and the base of G32 ; to
announce upon (reflexively), that
is, (by implication) to engage t do something, to assert
something
respecting oneself:—profess, (make) promise.
Heb.10:22 Let us draw near with a true heart in full
assurance of faith,
............ having
our hearts sprinkled
from an evil conscience,
.............and our bodies washed with
pure
water.
Jay Guin: Characteristic
of the “old,” “obsolete,” and “aging” covenant are “regulations for
worship” and an “earthly sanctuary”! Somehow, the need for
“regulations
for worship” is evidence of the inadequacy of the Law of Moses.
We have shown that these were CEREMONIES
FOR JUSTIFICATION: the Israelites did NOT got to or into the
Tabernacle to do acts of worship. The godly people did NOT go into or
even INSIDE of the gates when the Levites made noise calle exorcism.
We have a CEREMONY FOR JUSTIFICATION and if this is an "act of worship"
then Christ did it ONCE FOR ALL TIMES when He returned to the Spirit
world. That is why he NEVER prescribed ACTS of worship as a PATTERN.
People who have PATTERNISM for acts of worship ARE still
under the Law: that is why the Lying Wonders says that God commanded
HIM to impose musical instruments because Hezekiah used the Levitical
Warrior Musicians to make a LOUD NOISE while the GOATS were burning.
It is a fact that ALL people go back to the Curse of the Law
of Moses to get their patternism for using musical instruments called
"machines for doing hard work."
Jer. 7:22 For I spake not unto your fathers,
nor
commanded them in the day that I brought them out of the land of Egypt,
concerning burnt offerings or sacrifices:
Jer. 7:23 But this thing commanded I them, saying,
Obey my
voice, and I will be your God, and ye shall be my people:
and walk
ye in all the ways that I have commanded you,
that it
may be well unto you.
Jer. 7:24 But they hearkened not, nor inclined their ear,
but
walked in the counsels and in the imagination of their evil heart,
[used Law of Silence]
and went
backward, and not forward.
Jer. 7:25 Since the day that your fathers came forth out of the land of
Egypt unto this day
I have
even sent unto you all my servants the prophets,
daily
rising up early and sending them:
Jer. 7:26 Yet they hearkened not unto me, nor inclined their ear,
but
hardened their neck: they did worse than their fathers.
Jer. 7:27 Therefore thou shalt speak all these words unto them;
but they
will not hearken to thee:
thou
shalt also call unto them; but they will not answer thee.
That's still the fact:
Here is the CENI but
Matt. 28:19 Go ye therefore,
and teach
all nations,
baptizing
them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
[Name is Jesus Christ]
Matt. 28:20 Teaching them
to
observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you:
and, lo,
I am with you alway,
even unto
the end of the world. Amen.
You need a pattern, in the Rubel Shelly
Patternism put down to make a DRESS. However, the CHURCH
PATTERNISM has only ONE PIECE. That is to dethrone people who
want to add pearls, buttons and perfume. It is also, says
Peter in 2 Peter 1, the way to MARK a false teacher.
Denying the WORD as Christ's pattern brings on strong
delusions: the
MARK is lying wonders which specificially points to musical and
dramatic entertainment in religious ceremonies. REAL men would never do
that all history testifies.
On definition of a PATTERN is the
TUPOS as "a pattern capable being imitated" and after we obey that form
od doctrin we are THEN free from sin.
Peter and others left a
WRITTEN MEMORY of what they had seen and heard to qualify them to write
for Christ. He denies us the right to private interpret or
"further
expound" beyond what has been left "to supply us with all that applies
to life and godliness. The REASON for a RECORD which Christ came to
deliver is:
2Pet. 2:1 But there were false prophets also among
the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who
privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that
bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
In the second chapter, Peter--as he does using many key words--defines
CORRUPTION:
2
Peter 2:[19] promising them liberty,
while they themselves are
bondservants of corruption;
for by whom a man is overcome,
by the same
is he also brought into bondage.
Several Bible passages and The
Book of Enoch make it clear that when you leave the Living Word and add
mixed sex choirs and instruments "you have fallen and you will never
get up." That is why the new ANTIs seem to be in such a ditter.
WHY DO ANTI-PATTERNISTS WANT TO PROMISE
LIBERTY TO IMPOSE CORRUPTION?
Phtheirō means to corrupt or destroy,
bribe, entrap, pervert.
Khrestes A. one who gives or expounds
oracles, prophet, soothsayer
b. seduce a woman, “hupo tēs thugatros adikoumenon kai Dionusiou tou
phtheirantos autēn kinaidou” (DOGS) PEnteux.26.11
Dionysus was the New Wineskin God.
Kinaidos A. catamite, Pl.Grg.494e,
etc.: generally, lewd fellow, Herod.2.74,
PSI5.483.1 (iii
B.C.), Arcesil. ap. Plu.2.126a.
Plat. Gorg. 494e
Socrates
Is it so if he only wants to scratch his head? Or
what more am I to ask you? See, Callicles, what your answer will be, if
you are asked everything in succession that links on to that statement;
and the culmination of the case, as stated—the life of catamites—is not
that awful, shameful, and wretched? Or will you dare to assert that
these are happy if they can freely indulge their wants?
Callicles
Are you not ashamed, Socrates, to lead the discussion into such topics?
Socrates
What, is it I who am leading it there, noble sir, or the person who
says outright that those who enjoy themselves
Plutarch Marcus
Antonius: For in the city of Ephesus, women,
attired as they go in
the feasts and sacrifice of Bacchus, came out to meet him with such
solemnities and ceremonies as are then used: with men and children
disguised like fauns and satyrs. Moreover, the city was full of ivy,
and darts wreathed about with ivy, psalterions , flutes,
and howboyes ; and in their songs they called him
Bacchus, father of mirth, courteous and gentle: and so was he unto
some, but to the
most
part of men cruel and extreme. For he robbed noblemen and gentlemen of
their goods, to give it unto vile flatterers: who oftentimes
begged
living men's goods, as though they had been dead, and would enter their
houses by force
b. with a Prep., phtheiresthai pros tous plousious,
of hangers-on and flatterers, D.21.139, cf. Plu.Phoc.21, Eum. 14, Ant.24; “eis hēdonas apo . . ponōn” Anon. ap. Stob.4.31.84;
“akouō se lurōdou gunaikos eran kai eis ekeinēs phtheiromenon pasan tēn ephēmeron agran katatithesthai”
The Muses in Revelation 18 were defined as dirty
adulteress: sorcerers.
2
Peter 2.[20] For if, after they have escaped the defilement of the
world through the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they
are again entangled therein and overcome, the last state has become
worse with them than the first.
2 Peter 2.[21] For to this you were called,
because Christ also suffered
for us,
leaving us an
example,
that you should follow his
steps,
This is a WRITTEN PATTERN which even a human teacher would do:
Hupogrammos
A. writing-copy, pattern, model, outline, LXX 2 Ma. 2.28, 1
Ep.Pet.2.21; hu. paidikoi copy-heads for children, containing all the
letters of the alphabet, of which three forms have been preserved.
Beginning
with Clay tablets and including ALL recorded literature the MARK of
imposing instrument is telling God WE WILL NOT OBEY YOUR WORD.
The
sentence has already been imposed.
Jay
Guin: External and imperfect.
The writer then describes the worship laws of the Mosaic covenant,
concluding—
They
are only a matter of food and drink and various ceremonial
washings—external regulations applying until the time of the new order
(Hebrews 9:10).
THEN WHY IS JAY QUIN AND A SMALL BAND SO
PURPOSE DRIVEN TO IMPOSE ANOTHER ACT OF WORSHIP OR TWO?
That's what the Scribes and
Pharisees, hypocrites marked by Jesus as speakers, singers and
instrument players, CLAIM
Acts 7:38 This is he, that was in the church
in the wilderness
with the
angel which spake to him in the mount Sina,
and with
our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us:
Acts 7:39 To whom our fathers would not obey,
but
thrust him from them, and in their hearts turned back again
into Egypt,
Acts 7:40 Saying unto Aaron, Make us gods to go before us:
for as
for this Moses, which brought us out of the land of Egypt,
we wot
not what is become of him.
Acts 7:41 And they made a calf in those days,
and
offered sacrifice unto the idol,
and
rejoiced in the works of their own hands.
Even if you cannot read, there is plenty of proof:
"The
triumphal hymn
of Moses had unquestionably a religious character about it; but the
employment of music in
religious services, though
idolatrous, is more
distinctly marked
in the festivities which attended the erection of the golden calf."
(Smith's Bible Dictionary, Music, p. 589).
Ephraim Syrus On
Our Lord notes
that
Sinai was a test. The Israelites were consummate idolaters in Egypt.
However, God gave them one more shot at the Abrahamic Covenant. By
removing Moses as a visible "authority figure" He wanted to let them
answer their own prayer
19.
But when
Moses came down, he saw
their heathenism revelling in the wide plain with drums and cymbals.
Speedily, he put their madness
to shame by means of the Levites and drawn swords.
So
likewise here,
our Lord concealed His
knowledge for a little
when the sinful woman approached Him, that the Pharisee might form into
shape his
thought,
........ as
his fathers
had shaped
the
pernicious calf.
Acts 7:42 Then God turned, and gave them up to worship the
host of heaven;
as it is
written in the book of the prophets,
O ye
house of Israel, have ye offered to me slain beasts and sacrifices
by the
space of forty years in the wilderness? [not commanded]
Acts 7:43 Yea, ye took up the tabernacle of Moloch,
and
the star of your god Remphan,
figures
which ye made to worship them:
and
I will carry you away beyond Babylon.
Acts 7:44 Our fathers had the tabernacle of witness in the
wilderness,
as he had
appointed, speaking unto Moses,
that he
should make it according to the fashion that he had seen.
Acts 7:45 Which also our fathers that came after brought in with Jesus
into the possession of the Gentiles,
whom God
drave out before the face of our fathers,
unto
the days of David;
Jay Guin: The
Greek word translated “external” is usually translated “fleshly” in the
King James Version. Now, God himself commanded the regulations for the
temple service. The practices weren’t fleshly because they were
contrary to God’s will; they were fleshly because they were physical,
made up of things here on earth (Colossians 2:22:
“destined to perish with use”) and so cannot be perfect. Only a perfect
temple, worshipped in perfectly, with a perfect priest and a perfect
sacrifice will do. And we can’t meet such a test.
Sarx II. the flesh, as
the seat of the affections and lusts, fleshly nature, “en tē s. hē hēdonē” Epicur.Sent.18, cf. Sent.Vat.
33; adoulōton
(prob. l.) “tē sarki kai tois tautēs pathesi”
Plu.2.107f, cf. 101b;
freq. in NT, Ep.Gal.5.19, al.
3.
the physical or natural order of things,
opp. the spiritual or supernatural, “sophoi kata sarka” 1 Ep.Cor.1.26;
1
CORINTHIANS 1: CLICK TO READ PAUL DEFINING AWAY ALL OF THE PIECES
OF THE PATTERN OF INSTITUTES ROBBING THE DESTITUTE.
1Cor. 1:22 For the Jews require a sign,
and the Greeks seek after wisdom:
[SOPHOS]
1Cor. 1:23 But we preach Christ crucified,
unto the Jews a stumblingblock,
and unto the Greeks foolishness;
1Cor. 1:24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks,
Christ the power of God, and the wisdom
of God.
1Cor. 1:25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men;
and the weakness of God is
stronger than men.
1Cor. 1:26 For ye see your calling, brethren,
how that not many wise [SOPHOS]
men after the flesh,
not many mighty, not many noble,
are called:
1Cor. 1:27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to
confound the wise;
and God hath chosen the weak
things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;
The Father will not speak to the WISE SOPHISTS. The Son will not PRAY
for the SOPHISTS. Believers are called OUT of the KOSMOS.
THE FOLLOWING LINKS NEED TO BE UPDATED: PERSEUS BETRAYED ME
Sophos A. skilled in any
handicraft or art, clever, mostly of poets and musicians, Pi.O.1.9, P.1.42, 3.113; en kithara s. E.IT1238 (
OUTLAWED: Sophos
A. skilled in any handicraft or art, clever, mantis
Id.Th.382 ;
Margites Fr.2; but in this sense mostly
of poets and musicians, Pi.O.1.9, P.1.42, 3.113; en kitharai
Mantikê ,Mania
[mainomai] ) madness, sphodra hêdonê katechousa
II. enthusiasm, inspired
frenzy, m. Dionusou para
E.Ba.305 ; apo
Mousôn katokôchê te kai m. Pl.Phdr. 245a
; theia m.,
OPPOSITE
sôphrosunê anthrôpinê meaning having control
over the sensual
desires,
temperate,
self-controlled, moderate, chaste, sober,
AND SPEAKING AS
"SPEAK ONE TO ANOTHER" IS THE OPPOSITE OF MUSIC.
Logos. The ACT of
speaking is
logik-os ,
ê,
on, ( [logos]
) the organs
of speech
A. of or for speaking or speech,
logikê, hê, speech,
OPPOSITE
to mousikê
The phrase: Mousôn katokôchê Mousa
I. the Muse, in pl. the Muses, goddesses of song, music, poetry,
dancing, the drama, and all fine arts II. mousa, as appellat., music,
song, Pind., Trag.:--also eloquence, Eur.:--in pl. arts,
accomplishments, Ar., Plat.
Defined as the Hypocrite arts above.
Melôid-ia,
hê, singing, chanting, E.Rh.923, etc II. chant, choral song,
melôidias
poiêtês Pl.Lg.935e , cf. 812d; lullaby, ib.790e: generally,
music,
Phld.Mus.p.12 K.
The phrase: Mousôn
katokôchê katokôchê
1
[attic for katochê] a being possessed, possession
(i. e. inspiration), Plat.
Music
was used to create MANIA in the prophets wherre their MADNESS was
attributed to the "gods" or "demons." When you are aroused mentally,
you are in a state of MADNESS.
Pindar
Olympian 1
For Hieron of Syracuse Single Horse Race 476 B. C.
[1] Water is best, and gold, like a blazing fire in the
night,
stands out supreme of all lordly wealth. But if, my heart, you wish to
sing of contests, [5] look no further for any star warmer than the sun,
shining by day through the lonely sky, and let us not proclaim any
contest greater than Olympia. From there glorious song enfolds
the wisdom
[sophos] of poets, so that they loudly
sing
[10] the son of
Cronus, when they arrive at the rich and blessed hearth of Hieron,
[12]
who wields the scepter of law in Sicily of many
flocks, reaping every
excellence at its peak, and is glorified [15] by
the choicest music,
which we men often play around his hospitable table. Come, take
the Dorian lyre down from its peg, if the splendor of Pisa and
of
Pherenicus placed your mind under the influence of sweetest
thoughts
David had sinned beyond redemption: rather than
kill him God gave him a Jebusite High Place long dedicated to the
WORSHIP OF THE STARRY HOST.
Acts 7:46 Who found favour before God,
and desired to find a tabernacle for the God of
Jacob.
Acts 7:47 But Solomon
built him an house.
Acts 7:48 Howbeit the
most High dwelleth not in temples made with hands; as saith the
prophet,
God commanded the TABERNACLE as a WITNESS but not as a WORSHIP CENTER.
God did NOT command the Law but imposed it. He did NOT command the
kings but ABANDONED them. God did NOT command the sacrificial
system NOR the Levites making NOISE to drive away the demons.
Jay Guin: Therefore, we are no
longer to
try to imitate perfection by following a pattern, as patterns can only
be imperfectly imitated—
When
Christ came as high priest of the good things that are already here, he
went through the greater and more perfect tabernacle that is not
man-made, that is to say, not a part of this creation. He did not enter
by means of the blood of goats and calves; but he entered the Most Holy
Place once for all by his own blood, having obtained eternal redemption
(Hebrews 9:11-14).
That
is why Jesus said that worship is IN SPIRIT as a place as opposed to IN
A HOUSE. Paul said to worship IN THE SPIRIT as opposed to IN THE
FLESH because the DOGS would be seeking whom they might devout.
THE
SYNAGOGUE BECAME THE PLACE AS CHURCH FOR THE SPIRITUAL PEOPLE GOD HAD
NOT ABANDONED.
Jay Guin: The
only perfect sanctuary is in heaven. The only perfect worshiper is
Jesus. Nothing man-made and nothing that is a part of this creation is
good enough. We are part of this creation, and so we aren’t good enough.
So, why are people organized in a gang to mock
people who will not even TRY to worship with MUSIC when the church is
defined as a school of the Word?
IN FACT SCHOLARS CANNOT FIND CHURCH OR
WORSHIP: Isn't that a SIGN?
In Romans 14 Paul outlawed doubtful
disputations which is anything which comes out of the human imagination
which is only evil continually. In Romans 15 Paul defined the
role of the SYNAGOGUE which PATTERNISM waa established in the
wilderness as a SCHOOL (only) of the WORD (only) of GOD (only).
No Jew in history was so uninformed that they tried to impose
music of any kind into the synagogue. It is a fact that the
ungodly had trumpets sounding when they "laid by in store."
Jesus HAS performed the ACT OF
WORSHIP by sheding His blood and taking it into the heavenly
tabernacle. Therefore, the kingdom of God is WITHIN you. Worship is in
the PLACE of the human Spirit. Therefore, to get psycholically violent
against their betters the ANTI-patternists want to add TWO MORE PIECES
to the Dress: singers and instrument players.
Jay Guin: The
Hebrews writer’s point is critical. How do we know that the Mosaic
pattern is obsolete and inadequate? Because it is imperfect. And how do
we know that? Because it’s something humans do on earth and hence is
necessarily imperfect. And how else? Because it is governed by
“external regulations”—even though they are regulations from God
himself.
The CHRIST PATTERN for the Synagogue never changed other than adding
the Lord's Supper as the only "preaching" command for the local
congregation. Those who want to preach THEMSELVES each first day of the
week and lie about "laying by in store" WANT to preach the real Jesus
who DIED each first day of the week.
Jay Guin: Earthly, not heavenly.
Rule-keeping, ritual, and
pattern following cannot save. We cannot worship our way into heaven.
We cannot perform any Sunday ritual that will satisfy God. But (praise
God!) we don’t have to. Jesus has gone into the ultimate temple and
presented the ultimate sacrifice, doing the perfect act of worship so
that we are freed from having to seek salvation in honoring external
regulations in an earthly sanctuary.
So, why ADD more PATTERNS which are clearly
OUTLAWED and which is purposed to SOW DISCORD to steal the church house
of widows. Jay Guin's PATTERNISTS do exactly what everyone else
does and says that it is a COMMAND.
The word REST means that we are
FREED FROM external acts: REST does not give a person the right to
IMPOSE new rules. If Jesus died to free us from SACRIFICES which
DEMANDED "Music to make the lambs dumb before the slaughter" then by
what legalize does that give Jumpity Jack the right to claim that there
ARE NO RULES so I am going ot IMPOSE one: musical sorcery.
Jay Guin: The author re-emphasizes
the
point—
[The
priests under the Law of Moses] serve at a sanctuary that is a copy and
shadow of what is in heaven. This is why Moses was warned when he was
about to build the tabernacle: “See to it that you make everything
according to the pattern shown you on the mountain” (Hebrews 8:5).
JESUS
WAS SPEAKING ABOUT THE TABERNACLE: not the temple
Jay Guin: The
writer’s contrast is between “what is in heaven” and what is on earth.
What is on earth is only a “copy and shadow” of heavenly perfection.
The very fact that the tabernacle was made according to a “pattern”
shows that it’s only a copy, imperfect and insufficient. Only the
original is good enough to save. Therefore, following a pattern is
necessarily inadequate, and therefore, God in his mercy replaced it
with a new and better covenant.
It was therefore necessary that the patterns
of things in the heavens should be purified with these; but the
heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these (Hebrews 9:23 KJV
“Patterns”!
What could possibly
be wrong with following a heavenly
pattern? Everything. Flawed humans make copies from patterns, and seek
to earn salvation by replicating something that is perfect. It can’t be
done. Pattern theology is necessarily a works-based theology.
And if
the Law of Moses was proven inadequate by its insistence on
pattern-keeping, surely the same is true of any pattern-keeping. After
all, the problem isn’t the inadequacy of the pattern—the pattern has
always been perfect—it’s the inadequacy of humans to truly replicate
the pattern! And we’re just as imperfect now as the Israelites were
then.
This is TWISTED LOGIC: the
instrumentalists are the ones who added the MUSICAL PATTERNISM with not
thought about what Scripture said: they OWN the law of silence.
Jay Guin: Joshua: a text misused
I must digress only slightly to refer to a badly misused passage, Joshua 22:24,
which declares, “Behold, the pattern!” (KJV). This passage has
become
something of a rallying cry for many in the rightward congregations of
the Churches of Christ. But the passage confirms the point of the
Hebrews writer and is very likely the inspiration for the writer’s
opposition to patternism.
Joshua led
the Israelites in
conquering the promised land. He divided the land among the Twelve
Tribes, with some tribes—Reuben, Gad, and Manasseh—remaining on the
east of the Jordan River, while the others divided the land between the
Jordan and the Mediterranean Sea.
Josh. 22:4 And now the LORD your God hath given rest unto your
brethren, as he promised them: therefore now return ye, and get you
unto your tents, and unto the land of your possession, which Moses the
servant of the LORD gave you on the other side Jordan.
Josh. 22:10 And when they came unto the borders of Jordan, that are in
the land of Canaan,
the children of Reuben and the
children of Gad and
the half tribe of Manasseh
built there an altar by Jordan, a
great
altar to see to.
Josh. 22:11 And the children of Israel heard say,
Behold, the children of Reuben
and the children of Gad and the half
tribe of Manasseh
have built an altar over against
the land of Canaan,
in the borders of Jordan,
at the passage of the children of
Israel.
Josh.
22:12 And when the children of Israel heard of it,
the whole
congregation of the children of Israel gathered themselves together at
Shiloh, to go up to war against them.
Josh. 22:22 The LORD God of gods, the LORD God of gods, he knoweth, and
Israel he shall know;
if it be in rebellion, or if in
transgression
against the LORD, (save us not this day,)
Josh. 22:23 That we have built us an altar to turn from following
the LORD,
or if to offer
thereon burnt offering or meat offering,
or if to offer peace offerings
thereon, let the LORD himself require it;
The people on the eastern side had virtually declare war against Israel
AND against God.
Josh. 22:27 But that it may be a witness between us, and you, and our
generations after us,
that we might do the service of
the LORD before
him
with our burnt offerings, and
with our sacrifices, and with our
peace offerings;
that your children may not say to
our children in time
to come,
Ye have no part in the LORD.
Josh. 22:28 Therefore said we, that it shall be,
when they should so
say to us or to our generations in time to come,
that we may say again,
Behold the pattern of the altar of the LORD,
which our fathers made, not
for burnt offerings, nor for sacrifices;
but it is a witness
between us and you.
Josh. 22:29 God forbid that we should rebel against the LORD,
and turn
this day from following the LORD,
to build an altar for burnt
offerings, for meat offerings, or for sacrifices,
beside the altar of
the LORD our God that is before his tabernacle.
Lynn Anderfson: II
Chron. 29:25ff When Hezekiah restored the temple
worship, he
reinstated instruments: “And he stationed the Levites in the
house of
the Lord with cymbals, harps, and lyres, according to the commandment
of David and of Gad the kingís seer and of Nathan the prophet;
for the
commandment was from the Lord through his prophets.”
David Faust: I . In the Old
Testament the Lord didn't merely "permit" the use of musical
instruments as aids to worship. He commanded
their use.
2.
In the old Testament the Lord didn't merely "permit' the use of musical
instruments as aids to worship. He blessed
their use.
Second
Chronicles
5:14 adds an important point about the dedication of the
temple. After the instrumentalists and the singers joined together in
united praise to the Lord, the next verse says, "Then the temple of the
Lord was filled with a cloud, and the priests could
not perform their service because of the cloud, for
the glory of the Lord filled the temple of God" God's "glory" in the
form of a cloud was an expression of God's joy, pleasure,
approval, and delight.
God was making
known His presence
in a very intense and powerfful way. The people not
only honored the Lord as they played instruments and sang together, but
they did so withh God's full and hearty approval. The Lord didn't just put
up
with the use of musical instruments; He smiled upon it,
and expressed great delight and pleasure
in the way His people praised Him through a combination of singing an
instrumental accompaniment
Greek
language is RHETORICIAN and next in line are musicians.
Jer. 7:21 Thus
saith the LORD of hosts, the God of
Israel;
Put your burnt
offerings unto your sacrifices, and eat flesh.
Jer. 7:22 For I spake not
unto your fathers, nor
commanded them
in the
day that I brought them out of the land of Egypt,
concerning
burnt offerings or sacrifices:
As the remaining tribes
crossed the Jordan River, they discovered that the eastern three tribes
had built an altar following the pattern of the tabernacle’s altar.
They assumed that the eastern tribes intended to worship at their new
altar rather than at the tabernacle with the rest of the tribes. This
so contradicted the Law of Moses, which permitted but one tabernacle,
the nine tribes were ready to put the three eastern tribes to death!
No, they build an altar IN ADDITION to
the one outside of the Tabernacle. That was not a problem except
the fear that they intended to make BURNT OFFERINGS for meant
sacrifices which HAD NOT BEEN COMMANDED.
The three
eastern tribes
defended themselves, saying,
“And we said, ‘If they ever say this to us, or to
our descendants, we will answer: Look at the replica [KJV: Behold the pattern] of the Lord’s
altar, which our fathers built, not for burnt offerings and sacrifices,
but as a witness between us and you.’
It
was because of musical idolaltry at Mount Sinai as the old Egyptian and
Canaanite PATTERNISM that they were in Canaan to be carried back to
Babylon.
THE
FACT IS THAT GOD HAD NOT COMMANDED ALTARS IN THE PATTERNISM FOR THE
COVENANT.
Jer. 7:21 Thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of
Israel;
Put your burnt offerings unto
your sacrifices, and eat flesh.
Jer. 7:22 For I spake not unto your fathers,
nor commanded them in the day
that I brought them out of the land of Egypt,
concerning burnt offerings or
sacrifices:
Jer. 7:23 But this thing commanded I them, saying, [The
Book of The Covenant: NOT the Law]
Obey my voice, and I will
be your God, and ye shall be my people:
and walk ye in all the ways that
I have commanded you, that it may be well unto you.
Jer. 7:24 But they hearkened not, nor inclined their ear,
but walked in the counsels
and in the imagination of their evil heart,
and went backward, and not
forward.
The patternist Rick Atchley says that a "spirit" told him that god
commanded instrumental praise which was not commanded for the altar in
front of the Tabernacle. The HOUSE or Temple at Mount Sinai was
not commanded and that is where the Levitical Warrior Musicians made
loud noise during the BURNT OFFERINGS of the Goats for Israel which was
not present. So, Rick Atchley is guilty of the sin the godly of
Israel feared might be the purpose of the eastern tribes.
Jer. 7:25 Since the day that your fathers came forth out
of the land of Egypt
unto this day I have even sent
unto you all my servants the prophets,
daily rising up early and sending
them:
Jer. 7:26 Yet they hearkened not unto me, nor inclined their ear,
but hardened their neck: they did
worse than their fathers.
Jer. 7:27 Therefore thou shalt speak all these words unto them;
but they will not hearken to
thee:
thou shalt also call unto them;
but they will not answer thee.
Jer. 7:28 But thou shalt say unto them,
This is a nation that obeyeth
not the voice of the LORD their God,
nor receiveth correction: truth
is perished, and is cut off from their mouth.
The singular ALTAR always built by ignoring all of
the restrictions in
the Covenant was to QUARANTINE the curse of the sacrificial
system to
ONE PLACE.
“Far
be it from us to rebel against the LORD and turn away from him today by
building an altar for burnt offerings, grain offerings and sacrifices,
other than the altar of the LORD our God that stands before his
tabernacle” (Joshua 22:28-29).
No:
the Altar in the "promised land" which became the "killing fields" as
Israel was on their way to captivity and death, was NOT that which
stood at the Tabernacle.
The
point of the passage is that the altar was a mere copy of the original
— it followed a pattern — and therefore was inadequate and could not be
used! It was only a reminder of the real thing. Had the eastern tribes
intended to worship using the “pattern,” they would have all been
killed!
The PATTERN defined the one altar in front of the Tabernacle: this was ANOTHER
altar which Israel thought might be for burn offerings. If you
reproduce the MUSIC (noise) based on the animal sacrifices in front of
the TEMPLE (never the Tabernacle) then you have EXPOSED something in
another PLACE which would make you liable to be executed.
Josh. 22:29 God forbid that we should rebel
against the LORD,
and turn
this day from following the LORD,
to build an altar for burnt
offerings, for meat offerings, or for sacrifices,
beside the altar of
the LORD our God that is before his tabernacle.
Josh. 22:30 And when Phinehas the priest, and the princes of
the
congregation
and heads of the thousands of
Israel which were with him,
heard the words that the children
of Reuben and the children of Gad and
the children of Manasseh spake,
it pleased them.
Josh. 22:31 And
Phinehas the son of Eleazar the priest said unto the children of
Reuben,
and to the children of Gad, and
to the children of Manasseh,
This day we perceive that the
LORD is among us,
because ye have not
committed this trespass against the LORD:
now ye have delivered the
children of Israel out of the hand of the LORD.
Therefore, if we who are a
part
of the Restoration
Movement wish to truly restore New Testament Christianity, there is no
sin in worshiping as the First Century worshiped — but we cannot
impose
such practices as requirements to become saved or to stay saved.
If imposing sacrificial and slaughtering
MUSIC or noise at an altar OTHER THAN in Jerusalem was the MARK of
animal sacrifices AND the intention of GOING TO WAR was worthy of
death, why IMPOSING the sacrificial music (noise) the INTENTION not to
follow God AND to declare Worship Wars against those who do not follow
the OLD TESTAMENT PATTERNISM. The SOUNDS of instruments which were
outlawed during "synagogue" in the wilderness would be a BATTLE CRY.
The New Testament PATTERNISM is to "teach that which is written"
or "that which has been taught. Adding instruments violates many direct
commands and DECLARES that it will not speak or sing what Jesus Christ
gave us to "teach" one another.
Only those who use instruments IMPOSE
their patternism often by "infiltrating and diverting" a church and
tell the owners to "get over it or get out." JWMcGarvey was told that
by his elders. True Churches of Christ could care less what
the instrumentalists do or do not do. The ONLY time this has become an
issue is when INSTRUMENTALISTS never ceased preching "unity" knowing
that they intended to SEDUCE anyone who would believe their story. Jay
Guin's dogma is the afterglow of three decades of deliberate and
misleading attempts to achieve unity by deceit and confiscation.
They seduced only a few of those already CONSPIREING to
steal the church houses of widows to make it a "theater for holy
entertainment."
It is really low, low class to blame the person shot for squirting
blood on your dancing slippers and sowing discord by by yelling in the
CHURCH HOSUTE.
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This Judas bag is
from the
Greek and ALWAYS attached to the Flute Case: