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PARASITE defines any person devoted to WORSHIP beyond READING or SPEAKING that which is written for our LEARNING.

Rom. 10:15 And how shall they preach, except they BE SENT?
        as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them 
        that preach the gospel of peace, and BRING glad tidings of good things!
2Tim. 1:10 But is now made manifest
        by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ
        who hath abolished death,
        and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel:

STRONG DELUSIONS PRODUCES LYING WONDERS OR ANY PERFORMANCE CLAIMING THAT IT IS FOR GOD. The only UNITY is proven by everyong SPEAKING THE SAME THINGS. Paul excludes self-pleasure or any human performane and COMMANDED that "we use ONE mouth and ONE mind to speak that which is written for our LEARNING. 

JESUS EXCLUDED UNITY other than the COMMAND to Speak what He commanded to be Taught.  This is such a SIGN that to SPEAK the WORD is to guarantee that the world will despise you and try to destroy you.

"The exhilarating possibility is that the human race will finally undergo a kind of spiritual transformation during which we will forsake all the old social institutions and attitudes that have evolved during the past several thousand years based on the principle of competition, [and replace them with an entirely new social arrangement based on the principle of cooperation
, resulting ultimately in the coalescence of more than five billion individual humans into a single collective social organism.
We can expect, however, that such a harmonious coalescence would produce a dramatic blossoming of the human spirit, a spectacular display of human creativity, and a miraculous metamorphosis (Second Incarnation) that would lift the human race onto another and higher plane of existence, a spiritual and physical transformation that would surely qualify as an extraordinary event along this planet's evolutionary path."
New Wineskins began denying that individuals have the right to READ, INTERPRET or SPEAK anything from SCRIPTURE which is not GROUP MENTALITY defined by the COMMUNITY or COMMUNE. ANYTHING beyond a School of Christ (by His command) and all of the example is a CULT

1. Jesus came for a tiny band of Lost Spirits. After baptism their now-holy spirit is translated into the heavenly kingdom. This kingdom cannot be found in the place of Matt Dabba.  It doesn't come with observation meaning RELIGIOUS OBVERSATIONS which are called Lying wonders of the delusional
2. God ordained a day OF REST but never a Day of WORSHIP.
3. No one ever assembled to worship with Instrumental-Trinitarian-Perverted worship except of the Golden Calf which was beyond redemption.
4. No one was ever said to worship by group singing with or without instruments.
5. No one was ever said to worship by self-speaking, suffering listing, singing, playing an instrument, acting or PAY FOR PLAY.
6. Worship literally PROVES the status of one FALLING ON THEIR FACE in Reverence and Godly Fear.
6. Worship IN THE SPIRIT and not IN THE FLESH was READING or SPEAKING that which is written for our learning.

PROOF OF STRONG DELUSION AND THE REMOVAL OF THE LAMPSTAND IS

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THERE IS NO PREACHER WHO CORRUPTS THE WORD OR SELLS ANYTHING ELSE AT RETAIL MEANING ADULTERY HAS EVER GRASPED THAT S.P.E.A.K is not S.I.N.G

ODE (enchantment or sorcery) and PSALLO (mark of evil and effeminate) are IN the heart which means SILENCE.

Religious Music was performed by WOMEN or EFFEMINATE Males.  They both thought that their condition and public persona proved that they spoke for the "gods."  Paul then rebuffs all mediators in song and sermon but the READER because:

1Tim. 2:5 For there is ONE GOD
        and one mediator between God and men,
        the MAN Christ Jesus;

Old Wineskins contained yeast: If you add new wine (Juice) the food product will rot and blow up a new or old wineskin. Old skins were not suited for sacred uses but the were often made into the OWB or the empty INSTRUMENT of the Witch of Endor: she SOLD her own echoing voice as a real demon: when she tried it on Saul it was without redemption. Matt Dabbs has selected those writers who actively sow discord by imposing Musical Machines for doing hard work.  They claim that the Holy Spirit is their Worship leader. Because this is utterly false and ANTI all of the Biblical Evidence, The Spirit OF Christ in in Jeremiah 23 says that they have blasphemed.  All of the instrumental falls from grace in the Bible are connected to being cast alive into the Lake of fire.

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  New Wineskins Magazine Transformation
Rubel Shelly is Returning and the oft-failing New Wineskins Magazine is getting a new life with the same false teachers. Discuss or Question before you get "Fluted down with wine."
 
1992 with the Rubel Shelly Jubilee Movement and the New Wineskins Magazine saw a violent and judgmental attack on the major Biblical teachings defended by  almost all historic scholars and the founders of Denominations.  Churches of Christ never deviated from Regulative Principle demanded of the Word or LOGOS. The New Wineskin Sect works with the NACC trying to restore UNITY by forcing Churches of Christ to accept those false teachings which proves that there was never any unity to destroy.


Dionysus is the God of the Old Wineskins from the fall into musical idolatry at Mount Sinai to a church near you. He was worshipped in the Temple in Jerusalem by bringing sex and music into the holy places: a deed worthy of death under the Monarchy.

"dionysus's worship is thus established by the simple means of killing the opposition. It has been suggested that every tragic hero who suffers and dies on stage at the Dionysia, the great dramatic festival at Athens (of the South?), is in fact dionysus himself, being killed."

Arnobius lumped instrumental music and smooth oratory as mind manipulation together: that is the meaning of a SOPHIST

"They speak in the most elegant language, and that their words flow in polished periods; that they reason in syllogisms with utmost acuteness; .. that they say many things about the different kinds of numbers, many things about music; that by their maxims and precepts they settle the problems of geometry also." However, he continues--

"A comparison of persons must be decided, not by vigour of eloquence, but by the excellence of the works which they have done. He must not be called a good teacher who has expressed himself clearly, but he who accompanies his promises with the guarantee of divine works." (Arnobius Against the Heathen, Ante-Nicene, VI, p. 438).

"If men either knew themselves thoroughly, or had the slightest knowledge of God, they would never claim as their own a divine and immortal nature; nor would they think themselves something great because they have made for themselves... knives, swords" and etc.

"carried away by pride and arrogance, would they believe themselves to be deities of the first rank, and fellows of the highest in his exaltation, because they had devised the arts of grammar, music, oratory, and geometry. For we do not see what is so wonderful in these arts, that because of their discovery the soul should be believed to be above the sun as well as all the stars, to surpass both in grandeur and essence the whole universe, of which these are parts. "

"For what else do these assert that they can either declare or teach, than that we may learn to know the rules and differences of nouns, the intervals in the sounds of different tones, that we may speak persualsively in lawsuits, that we may measure the confines of the earth? Now if the soul had brought these arts with it from the celestial regions, and it were impossible not to know them, all men would long before this be busied with them all over the earth... But see now how few musicians, logicians, and geometricians are there in the world! How few orators, poets, critics!..." (Arnibious, Ante-Nicene, VI, p. 441)

THE PROGRESSIVE OR NEW WINESKIN RESTORATIONS CANNOT READ THE TEXT.

32"But let there be, as you wish, honour in wine and in incense, let the anger and displeasure of the deities be appeased by the immolation and slaughter of victims:

are the gods moved by garlands also, wreaths and flowers,
by the
jingling of brass also, and the shaking of cymbals, by timbrels also,
and also by
symphonious pipes? (footnote: trumpets and pipes)

What effect has the clattering of castanets, that when the deities have heard them,

they think that honor has been shown to them and lay aside their fiery spirit of resentment in forgetfulness?

Or, as little boys are frightened by giving over their silly wailings by hearing the sound of rattles, are the almighty deities also soothed in the same way by the whistling of pipes?
And do they become mild, is their indignation softened at the
musical sound of cymbals?

'What is the meaning of those calls which you sing in the morning, joining your voice to the music of the pipe.

"Do the gods of heaven fall asleep, so that they should return to their posts? What is the meaning of those slumbers to which you commend them with auspicious salutations that they may be in good health? Are they awakened from sleep; and that they may be able to overcome by it, must soothing lullabies be heard?" (Arnobius Against the Heathen, Ante-Nicene Fathers, VI, p. 530-531)

"all those creatures generated as men who proved themselves cowardly and spent their lives in wrong doing were transformed, at their Second Incarnation, into women." (Timaeus, 90)

Or: Of the men who came into the world, those who were cowards or led unrighteous lives may with reason be supposed to have changed into the nature of women in the second generation.

That's what the Spirit OF Christ prophesied in Isaiah 3.

  1. RUBEL SHELLY AND THE NEW WINESKINS MAGAZINE DEBUNKS THE REGULATIVE PRINCIPLE
  2. Because God is the LOGOS and He breathed (Spirit) into Jesus to make the LOGOS audible and effective.
  3. To mock the Regulative Principle as a new cult, is to be ANTI-Christ
The Regulative Principle or the LOGOS is that which Jesus commanded to be taught: He made the prophecies more certain and inspired the writers to leave a "memory" of their eye- and ear--witness of the risen Jesus.

The LOGOS Posted in Full: This is the only resource apparently not available to the scholars and false preachers.

-LOGOS
-Lego Count, recount, tell over, say, speak, 8. at the beginning of letters or documents, maintain as a thesis,    Sophron of sound mind. having control over the sensual desires, temperate, self-controlled, chaste, reasonable comparison. , esp. in the theatre,
Opposite to epithumia
 A. desire, yearning, longing after a thing, desire of or for it, Theaomai :--gaze at, behold, mostly with a sense of wonder3. view as spectators
2. statement of a theory, argument, to be explained
   c. in Logic, proposition, whether as premiss or conclusion
   d. rule, principle, law, as embodying the result of logismos
Opposite Pathos  A. that which happens to a person or thing, incident, accident,
where this incident took place, unfortunate accident,
2. what one has experienced, good or bad, experience
II. of the soul, emotion, passionlegō de pathē . . holōs hois hepetai hēdonē ē lupē” Arist.EN1105b21), “sophiē psukhēn pathōn aphaireitai” this is the self-pleasure including all of the performing arts which creates mental excitement and PREVENTS the command to "use one mind and one mouth to peak that which is written for our learning.

ALL OF THE MUSICAL SECTARIANS REST ON THEIR CLAIM THAT
Speaking to yourselves in Psalms, Hymns and spiritual songs.
         Really means SINGING to the audience in self-composed songs which is poi-ęsis and the opposite of -LOGOS

SINGING
Odeing and Psalloing IN THE HEART which means keep the singing and psallo SILENT as in 1 Cor 14.
        Really means singing one to another and psalloing UPON a HARP.

God always sets RAT TRAPS for those who use music meaning "to make the lambs dumb before the slaughter."

4.speech, delivered in court, assembly
VI. verbal expression or utterance, lego, lexis
      -Lexis A.speech, OPPOSITE ôidę

-ôidę, is  OPPOSITE to Logos
1.
art of song 5. = eppsdę, spell, incantation
4. text of an author,  OPPOSITE exegesis [Peter's private interpretation outlaws exegesis]
Arist.En1142a26

-LOGOS b. spermatikos l. generative principle in organisms,
    7.
reason, law exhibited in the world-process,
Jesus said My Words are Spirit and Life (John 6:63)
    c. in Neo-Platonic Philos., of regulative and formative forces, derived from the intelligible
       and operative in the sensible universe

-LOGOS IX  prose OPPOSITE -poięsis, Id.R.390a;
       OPPOSITE -poiętikę, D.H.Comp.6; opp. poięmata, onomatopoeic word all such word are called witchcraft or sorcery.

-poi-ęsis A.fabrication, creation, production, -Melos   B. esp. musical member, phrase: hence, song, strain, lyric songs, 3. melody of an instrument, mimesis Aoide singing, spell, incantations,
-Mousa  -Melodia -Cantus B. An incantation, charm, magic song
-LOGOS OPPOSITE -psilometria, Arist.Po.1448a11;

-Psilo-metria a verse not accompanied by music logion
logion A.oracle, esp. one preserved from antiquity2. ta l. Kuriou the sayings of the Lord, LXX Ps.11(12).6, cf.Act.Ap.7.38, Ep.Rom.3.2, 1 Ep.Pet.4.11.
Aristotle, Poetics 1448a: In painting too, and flute-playing and harp-playing, these diversities may certainly be found, and it is the same in prose and in unaccompanied verse. For instance Homer's people are "better," Cleophon's are "like," while in Hegemon of Thasos, the first writer of parodies, and in Nicochares, the author of the Poltrooniad, they are "worse."  It is the same in dithyrambic and nomic [the meaning of LEGALISM] poetry,

Aristot. Nic. Eth. 1102b.20 they swerve to the left; and similarly in unrestrained persons their impulses run counter to their principle. But whereas in the body we see the erratic member, in the case of the soul we do not see it; nevertheless it cannot be doubted that in the soul also there is an element beside that of principle, which opposes and runs counter to principle (though in what sense the two are distinct does not concern us here). [17] But this second element also seems, as we said, to participate in rational principle; at least in the self-restrained man it obeys the behest of principle—and no doubt in the temperate and brave man it is still more amenable, for all parts of his nature are in harmony with principle. [18]
1 According to the psychology here expounded, the intellect ‘has a plan or principle,’ in the sense of understanding principle, and being able to reason and make a plan: in other words, it is fully rational. The  part of man's nature ‘has a plan or principle’ in so far as it is capable of following or obeying a principle.
        It happens that this relationship of following or obeying can itself be expressed by the words
        to have logos’ in another sense of that phrase, viz. ‘to take account of, pay heed to.’
To be precise the writer should say that the  part logon ekhei tou logou ‘has logos (takes account) of the logos.’ The phrase has yet a third sense in mathematics, where “to have logos” (ratio) means ‘to be rational’ in the sense of commensurable.

THE USE OF INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC INTENDS TO ATTACK AND DESTROY.

It needs no proving that if you preach out of your own head and sing your own songs and play instruments you do NOT have any intention of letting Jesus get a word in edge-wise.
Aristot. Nic. Eth. 1175b.1

But things that are akin to things of different kinds must themselves differ in kind.
        [3] A still clearer proof may be drawn
        from the hindrance that activities
        receive from the pleasure derived from other activities.

For instance, persons fond of the flute
        cannot give their attention
to a philosophical discussion [The LOGOS or Regulative Principle]
        when they overhear someone playing the flute,
        because they enjoy music more than the activity in which they are engaged;
                therefore the pleasure afforded by the music of the flute
                impairs the activity of study.
[ 5] And since our activities [of the flute] are sharpened, prolonged and improved by their own pleasure, and impaired by the pleasures of other activities, it is clear that pleasures differ widely from each other. In fact alien pleasures have almost the same effect on the activities as their own pains; since, when an activity causes pain, this pain destroys it, for instance, if a person finds writing or doing sums unpleasant and irksome; for he stops writing or doing sums, because the activity is painful.
THEY INTEND TO STOP THE LEARNING AS A DISCIPLE OF WHAT JESUS CHRIST COMMANDED
Aristotle on Politics 8
2. or whether we ought rather to think that music tends in some degree to virtue (music being capable of producing a certain quality of character
       
just as gymnastics are capable of producing a certain quality of body,
        music accustoming men to be able to rejoice rightly);
3. or that it contributes something to intellectual
entertainment and culture (for this must be set down as a third alternative among those mentioned).
        Now it is not difficult to see that one must not make amusement the object of the education of the young;
        for amusement does not go with learning--learning is a painful process.
The New Wineskins Magazine attempts to put New Wine into the universal pagan connection between wine-sex-music to be sold at the "worship centers."  Jesus died to tear down the old "church houses" of the Jews Covenant with Death and hell.  He promised to give us REST: the prophetic picture was UNBRELLUM which was a shade or Safe House for the tiny few Disciples of Christ who had to find refuge to practice the Kingdom Within by the only worship concept for godlly Jews or Christians:
Acts 15:21 For Moses of old time hath in every city
        them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day.

That quarantined the godly people FROM the Jacob-cursed and God-abandoned Levites who performed as instrumental sorcerers during the abandonment of the nobility to worship the starry host. This was the Command for The Church of Christ (the Rock) in the wilderness and never changed.  Jesus EXAMPLED this direct command.
Luke 4:16 And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.
Paul practiced and commanded the same SINGULAR meaning of the assembly:
1Timothy 4:13 Till I come, give attendance to [public] reading, to exhortation, to doctrine.
1Timothy 4:14 Neglect not the gift that is in thee,
        which was given thee by prophecy,
        with the laying on of the hands of the presbytery.
1Timothy 4:15 Meditate upon these things;
        give thyself wholly to them; that thy profiting may appear to all.
1Timothy 4:16 Take heed unto thyself, and unto the doctrine; continue in them: for in doing this thou shalt both save thyself, and them that hear thee.

New Wine Skins Magazine is the Old New Wine Skins but the wine makers have not changed. The New Wine Skins Magazine (can't sell it now) was the stalking horse of the Jubilee Movement which intended to restructure all Churches of Christ into a Christian Church. The same false teachings are still promoted.


8.09.12 Psallo has NOT musical connection: It just means pluck something-bowstring, harp string, hair, rope-with the FINGERS and never with a PLECTRUM.  Resting one's salvation by sowing discord on twisting a single word is saying that The Holy Spirit of Christ, Paul and recorded history were ILLITERATE or intended to sow discord.
First, since psallo never at any time or place in recorded history MEANT more than pluck or smite a string with your FINGERS and never with a PLECTRUM they would know that pluck had and has absolutely no "musical" content.  That is why there is no recorded Bible or literary example of being able to instruct someone to pluck a string with one word. If you tell someone PLUCK there is no telling what would happen to you.  The same is true in English and all languages.

Second, if you want to tell someone to PLUCK an INSTRUMENT there are compound words for all named instruments and STYLES of plucking.
Third, you blaspheme the Spirit of Christ by saying that:
  1. He was too ignorant not to use TWO words such as PSALLO Plus A Harp.
  2. He was too ignorant not to use one compound word which meant play a harp
  3. He just wanted to throw in stumble words for those who have not been washed with water INTO the Word or school of Christ or
  4. He intentionally wanted to sow massive discord since singing as an ACT was first imposed in the hear 373.
Even if "psallo" meant play a harp it could NEVER be used to justify a guitar pick, a flute or drums

Playing the part of those deliberately sowing discord and blaspheming, let's assume that the Spirit of Christ or Paul or anyone prior to 1878 was too illiterate to know about all of the compound words.  For instance.

Anti-psallô, A.play a stringed instrument in accompaniment of song, a. elegois phorminga  {harp of Apollo, Abaddon, Apollyon's instrument]
 

Epi-psallō, A. play the lyre, S.Fr.60, Poll.4.58(Pass.); “melesi kai rhuthmois” 
                    SING, “tous humnous” LXX 2 Ma.1.30: Then the priests sang the hymns.
Even if you define a melody that would NOT include a rhythm.
Melos  rooted in cutting limb from limb like all musical terms.
        A.
limb, in early writers always in pl.is corrupt for kata meros
       
2. metaphor., “esmen . . allēlōn melē” Ep.Rom.12.5, cf. 1 Ep.Cor.6.15.
        meros
,  A. share, portion, 2. with Preps., ana meros in turn, successively,
        III. the part one takes in a thing
B. Especially musical member, phrase: hence, song, strain, first in h.Hom.19.16
        lyric poetry, choral songs, Opposite Epic or Dramatic verse

Perhaps the Holy Spirit was not educated enough NOT to use psallo which is never translated to mean musical melody and was not aware that He could have used MELOS which means musical melody or a series of single notes.
HH 19 To Pan:1 Muse, tell me about Pan, the dear son of Hermes, with his goat's feet and two horns —a lover of merry noise. Through wooded glades he wanders with dancing nymphs who foot it on some sheer cliff's edge, [5] calling upon Pan, the shepherd-god, long-haired, unkempt.... Often he courses through the glistening high mountains, and often on the shouldered hills he speeds along slaying wild beasts, this keen-eyed god. Only at evening, [15] as he returns from the chase,
        he sounds his note,
        playing sweet and low on his pipes of reed:
        not even she could excel him in melody —
        that bird who in flower-laden spring pouring forth her lament utters honey-voiced song amid the leaves....
Then all the immortals were glad in heart and Bacchic Dionysus in especial; and they called the boy Pan because he delighted all their hearts.
2. music to which a song is set, tune, Arist.Po.1450a14;
        Melos is Opposite. rhuthmos, metron, Pl.Grg. 502c;
                Melos is Opposite metron , II. metre, Ar.Nu.638, 641, etc.;
Aristoph. Cl. 638 Soc.
In the first place, to be clever at an entertainment, understanding what rhythm is for the war-dance, and what, again, according to the dactyle.
Again "meter" is the opposite of melos or melody and rhythm.
                   Opposite melos (music) and rhuthmos (time), Pl.Grg.502c
         Melos is Opposite. rhuthmos, rhēma, Id.Lg.656c;
                 Melos is Opposite rhēma  (erō) A. that which is said or spoken, word, saying,
                                    Ero I. I will say or speak, II. I will tell, proclaim, 2. to be specified, agreed, promised
                                                II.2. to be specified, agreed, promised
sullegō  II. of persons, collect, get together, “stasiōtas” Hdt.1.59; “egkhōrious” E.IT303; “khoron” Antipho 6.11; “ekklēsian”
—Pass., come together, assemble, “rhēmata kai logous”
mustered, Gathered

1Corinthians 14:23 If therefore the whole church be come together into one place, and all speak with tongues, and there come in those that are unlearned, or unbelievers, will they not say that ye are mad?

1 Cor 14: 23 Ean oun sunelthē ekklēsia holē epi to auto kai pantes lalōsin glōssais, eiselthōsin de idiōtai ē apistoi, ouk erousin hoti mainesthe;
 
Sunerkhomai II. come together, assemble, meet “sunelthe pros Theōna”

La^l-eō ,Mark of the Locusts
II.  chatter, Opposite. articulate speech, as of locusts, chirp, Theoc.5.34; mesēmbrias lalein tettix (sc. eimi), a very grasshopper to chirp at midday, 
III.  of musical sounds, “aulō [flute] laleō” Theoc.20.29; of trees, v.supr.1.2; “di'aulou [flute] ē salpiggos l.”[trumpet] Arist. Aud.801a29; of Echomagadin lalein sound the magadis,  [double flute]
                        3. subject of speech, matter, Hebraism cf. rhētos
                               
rhēt-os on stated terms, on certain conditions, according to covenant
                               
IV. to rh. the precise, literal contents of a document,
                                 the letter
of the law,

                                     
expressly, distinctly, Plb.3.23.5,
                                      rhētos literal, Opposite. allegorical, Ph.1.69, al.
Opposite Allēgor-eō , (agoreuō2. abs., speak figuratively or metaphorically,
4. allēgor-ētēs , ou, ho, allegorical expounder,
agoreuō agora  1. to speak in the assembly, harangue, speak
of the kērux in the Ecclesia, tis agoreuein bouletai; who wishes to address the people?


6.21.12 Al Maxey Immersed by one Spirit.
Al Maxey Immersedby one Spirit  Al removed credit from Jesus Christ for baptizing or inducting us into His Church, His Body or His Invisible Kingdom.
Edward Fudge Faith and Baptism

Edward Fudge: But whoever believes in Jesus
        has
remission of sins
[without baptism.
]
        The Bible does not contain the word "essential," since it is written in the language of story rather than of theology or debate.

Jesus said that those who "believeth not" or Apistos SHALL BE DAMNED.  The damned are those who deny Jesus who said "the that believeth (complieth) AND is baptized SHALL BE saved.  That is defined as blasphemy by the Spirit OF Christ in Jeremiah 33.

A similar passage for those who do not depend on Scripture is:
John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life:
        and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life;
        but the wrath of God abideth on him.
I think we know wrath when we read it. Believeth not always means
apeith-eō  A. to be disobedient, refuse compliance, A.Ag.1049; opp. peithomai [pithou comply, Opposite 2. peithesthai tini listen to one, obey him, Il. 1.79,
This is proven by most translations:
John 3: 36  He who believes in the Son  has eternal life;
        but he who does not obey the Son shall not see life,
        but the wrath of God abides on him.

John 3:36ASV He that believeth on the Son hath eternal life;
        but he that obeyeth not the Son shall not see life,
        but the wrath of God abideth on him.

John 3:36WEB One who believes in the Son has eternal life,
        but one who disobeys a the Son won’t see life,
        but the wrath of God remains on him.”

John 3:36NIV Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life,
        but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God’s wrath remains on him.”
Acts 5:30 The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree.
Acts 5:31 Him hath God exalted with his right hand
        to be a Prince and a Saviour,
        for to give repentance to Israel,
        and forgiveness of sins.
Acts 5:32 And we are his witnesses of these things;
        and so is also the Holy Ghost, [A holy spirit does not lie]
        whom God hath given to them that obey him.
Acts 5:33 When they heard that, they were cut to the heart, and took counsel to slay them.

Romans 16:26 But now is made manifest,
        and by the scriptures of the prophets,
        according to the commandment of the everlasting God,
        made known to all nations for the obedience of faith:

Hebrews 5:8 Though he were a Son,
        yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered;
Hebrews 5:9 And being made perfect,
        he became the author of eternal salvation
        unto all them that obey him;
ESSENTIAL MEANS INDISPENSABLE

esˇsenˇtial: of the utmost importance : basic, indispensable, necessary <an essential requirement for admission to college>

Paul said that baptism was essential or indispensible for entering into the LOGOS which is the inaudible voice of the God of the universe made audible by Jesus of Nazareth whom God made to be both Lord and Christ.
Eph. 5:26WEB That he might sanctify and cleanse it
        with the washing of water
        [INTO] the word,   (In Verbo, En, Eis)
        Into Converto , epistles of a writer, to be occupied in,  Into
        Philo-sophos Love of educatioon, an academy Philo-mathes or Philo-Logos
              OPPOSIITE of A. master of one's craft, adept, expert, of diviners, musicians
                                  Parapaion Khelon (play the harp, Hieron Melon (Melody in a religious shrine).
                                  A quibbler, cheate, one who gave lessons FOR MONEY.
                                  Fides (not faithful to the community) but Fides (faithful to Apollon)

    Washing of water into:
    Vulgate In the Word. Il.; en paidotribou the school of the training master.
WEB  In ENDUO denotes either rest or motion within or into a place or thing; 
                enter into a context. Assume the person of.
IN VERBUM
Discourse, conversation, Oral by word of mouth urnio plura verbo quam
                scripturā mandata dedimus,   In eccl. Lat. as a translation of logos,
LOGOS Opposite PATHOS (personal experiences), Opposite folly, Opposite reasoning, deliberation,
Logos OPPOSITE to rhetoric, poetry or music.
Epagoge bringing in AIDS, alurement, enticement, incantations, opposite of human reasoning, leading into captivity
EIS IS

Eis etc.; es Milēton into the territory of Miletus, ib.14
IV. to express RELATION, towards, in regard to, 2. with Verbs expressing rest in a place, when a previous motion into or to it is implied
2. to determine a period, eis eniauton
FOR a year, i.e. a whole year,
FOR telein perfection of andras, manhood

teleō , Ep. also teleiō , fulfil, accomplish, execute, perform, 5. bring to fulfilment or perfection): also, bring a child to maturity, bring it to the birth, E.Ba.100 
II. initiate in the mysteries,

Eur. Ba. 100 And he brought forth, when the Fates [100] had perfected him, the bull-horned god, and he crowned him with crowns of snakes, for which reason Maenads cloak their wild prey over their locks.

Baptism is the ESSENTIAL means of the Gospel to be accepted into the School of Christ (not a worship center).
1Peter 4:17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God:
        and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?

Gal. 3:26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
Gal. 3:27 (What I mean to say is) as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

Acts 4:10 Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel,
        that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth,
        whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead,

        even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.
Acts 4:11 This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.
Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other:
        for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
Edward Fudge: Surely all Christians can agree that baptism relates [indispensable] to the essence of the gospel,
        for it points to and expresses trust in the sacrifice of Jesus Christ
        which alone can wash away our sin.

That denies that Jesus Christ made baptism the "instrumental means" of requesting A holy spirit or A good conscience.  Jesus Christ (the Spirit Lord) informed Paul:
Acts 22:16 And now why tarriest thou?
        arise, and be baptized,
        and wash away thy sins,
       
calling on the name of the Lord.
That is the foundational prophecy by Christ, the direct command of Jesus, the direct commands of the writers of the epistles and understood throughout early church history.  An "faith only" passage taken out of context MUST be understood  in light of the foundational commands and examples.
Al Maxey Acts 2:28 and the Greek EIS
As the Purpose Driving the New Wineskins Sect, Al Maxey says: We are becoming a people transformed by the Spirit into a more Jesus-focused, grace-affirming part of the universal One Body of Christ. The sectarian walls WE erected to isolate ourselves from others, excluding them from our midst, are coming down, and we are embracing other disciples of Christ as beloved brethren. Thank God for allowing me to live long enough to see this new day dawn!! And yet, although progress is being made,
        there are still those proclaiming a sectarian sacramentalism
        among us with respect to the nature and purpose of water baptism,
        and they are still using Acts 2:38 as one of their primary "proofs."

Well, darn!

This paper proves that the "spirit" of the New Rubber Wineskin is directly derived from Baptists and others who only RECENTLY have denied that Christ in the Prophets, Jesus as commander and the apostles as teacher were telling the truth.

Baptism and Remission James W. Willmarth. Baptist Quarterly july, 1877 296-23

"Such methods of interpretation are unworthy of Christian scholars

[305] the Spirit leads the penitent believer to Baptism and blesses the rite.[17] And as to Campbellism, that spectre which haunts many good men and terrifies them into a good deal of bad interpretation,
        shall we gain anything by maintaining a false translation
        and allowing the Campbellites to be champions of the true,
        with the world’s scholarship on their side, as against us?
Whoever carries the weight of our controversy with the Campbellites upon the eis

        will break through
—there is no footing there for the evolutions of the theological skater.
         Shall we never learn that Truth has nothing to fear from a true interpretation of any part of God’s word,
         and nothing to gain by a false one?

The truth will suffer nothing by giving to eis its true signification. When the Campbellites translate in order to in Acts ii. 38, they translate correctly. Is a translation false because Campbellites endorse it?

Al Maxey Holding the Harps of God.
 

Al says that "holding" the harps OF God means PLAYING the harps OF David.  Al looks at Revelation 15 which speaks of the Song of Moses.  However, Moses SPAKE his song (a writing about a diety) and then put the song into the side of the Ark as a future MARK.  When people SING the song of moses--especially with clanging gongs and tinkling cymbals it will TESTIFY to those people that they have rejected the Word (Logos) of God.

Ekhō  
9. possess mentally, understand, “hippōn dmēsin” Il.17.476; “tnēn” Hes.Th.770;
“pant' eis logon” A. Ag.582,
        Everyone INTO the Word.
        logos
                Opposite: kata pathos, Arist.EN1169a5; YOUR personal experiences or opinions.
                Opposite aisth-ēsis   A. sense-perception, sensation2. display of feeling, Arist.Rh.1386a32 (v.l.).
                                Opposite stage-effects, Po. 1454b16; aisthēseis theōn visible appearances of the gods,
                Opposite  ek tēs epagōgēs, 2. bringing in to one's aid, introduction,
                                    4. allurement, enticement, “tais elpisi kai tais e.” D.19.322.
                                            b. incantation, spell,
                                    7. leading away into captivity, captivity,
               Opposite  muthos, as history to legend, Ti.26e; “poiein muthous all' ou logous”
               Opposite 4. speech, delivered in court, assembly, etc rhētorikōn,
        IX intelligent utterance, Opposite. phōnē, Arist.Pol.1253a14; “l. esti phōnē sēmantikē kata sunthēkēn”
                prose, Opposite. poiēsis, Id.R.390a;
                Opposite. psilometria, Arist.Po.1448a11; [verse without music: PROSE composition]
                Opposite. emmetra, ib.1450b15 (pl.) [ in metre, metrical,
                Opposite poiētikē, D.H.Comp.6; “p. kai mousikoi” Id.Lg.802b, cf. 700d, etc.;
                Opposite poiēmata, ib.15; “koina kai poiēmatōn kai logōn” YOUR Mousas
        2.b Only the WORDS to melos  [melody]

If God says SPEAK "that which is written for your learning" meaning "Scripture" what shall we say of those who make a living telling everyone that God said nothing against all of those things Opposite to His Word?

Al and all of the progressives insist on defining having or holding harps which repudiates the written Logos of the Living Word.
Ekhō   In the sense Al uses it to defend instruments and really  hurt those who refuse to bow:
keep up, maintain, kanakhēn e made a rattling noise, Il.16.105,794; boēn on, of flutes and lyres, 18.495.
ka^na^kh-eō  A. rang, clashed, crowing, acc. cogn., k. melos to let a song ring loud, A.R.4.907.

And they were already about to cast from the ship the hawsers to the shore, had not Thracian Orpheus, son of Oeagrus, stringing in his hands his Bistonian lyre,
        rung forth the hasty snatch of a rippling melody
             so that their ears might be filled with the sound of his twanging;
             and the lyre overcame the maidens' voice.

Instruments have no other purpose by definition

Musical MELODY is never Psallo: the major word is
melos limb by limb B. esp. musical member sugkeimenon [composed by poets, contrived, concocted]
        logou te
AND harmonias AND rhuthmou ib.398d.
2. music to which a song is set, tune, Arist.Po.1450a14;
        Opposite rhuthmos,
        Opposite metron, Pl.Grg. 502c;
       
Opposite rhēma, Id.Lg.656c; that which is said or spoken, word, saying, Prose

The major MELODY word, like modern melody gives you no rhythm, no meter and NO Speaking. You CANNOT obey the direct command to SPEAK Scripture and include anything similar to modern melody: melody DOES not, never includes HARMONY.
1 Corinthians 13. If I speak with the languages of men and of angels, but don't have love, I have become sounding brass, or a clanging cymbal.

1 Corinthians 13.1    Kai eti kath' huperbolēn hodon humin deiknumi. Ean tais glōssais tōn anthrōpōn lalō kai tōn aggelōn, agapēn de ekhō, gegona khalkos ēkhōn ē kumbalon alalazon
The Israelites were made Blind and Deaf because of musical idolatry at Mount Sinai: the sin was without redemption and God sentenced them back to Babylon for captivity and death: the kings were selected to carry out this terminal sentence.

In 2 Corinthians 3 Paul said that the Jews could not READ the Word or HEAR the Word when it was preached by being read.  Only when they converted (same as being baptized) would they be able to read BLACK text on BROWN paper.  Those who fiddle around with baptism are "believeth nots" or Apistos (I will not comply) are called treacherous and they will not be able to READ the Song of Moses which is in the Old Testament.
Acts 15:21 For Moses
        of old time hath
        in every city
                them that preach him,
                being read in the synagogues every sabbath day.
That was the inclusive and exclusive PATTERNISM for the Qahal, synagogue or Church of Christ (the ROCK) in the wilderness.  Jesus exampled it: He STOOD up to READ and then decently SAT DOWN for discussion.

No one PLAYS any instrument in heaven: in Revelation 14 when you HEAR those SOUNDS-LIKE in the air (heaven) all around you, the next angel speaks for the living and spiritual: "Judgment is being sounded so Preach the gospel to all nations."   Those who think that there is any spiritual connection between a Spirit God and instrumental sounds need not apply.

New Wine in Old Wineskins
The New Wine Skins concept has been a highly popular theme adopted by most who get their resources from the internet. This PATTERNISM allows them to impose all kinds of "exhilarating" rituals involving polished rhetoric, singing, playing instruments, dancing and drama.  This demands that you have a NEW WINE SKIN so that it can stretch to include all religious group in one giant "rubber" wineskin.

However, it you put new wine in an old wine skin it will NOT burst and spill the wine.  This is the MARK of very people not interested in the gospel which Christ put in "clay vessels" so it would not become leavened.
Job 32:18 For I am full of matter, the spirit [breath] within me constraineth me.
Job 32:19 Behold, my belly is as wine which hath no vent;
        it is ready to burst like new bottles.
Job 32:20 I will speak, that I may be refreshed: I will open my lips and answer.
Well! WHAT is it about Old Wine Skins into which you must NOT put the Gospel of Christ? The old wineskin includes hundreds of yeast cells just waiting for you to pour in boiled and purified new wine: it will eat up the juice, defecate and turn your FOOD SUPPLY into a feremented wine which will rot or turn to vinegar.

So the New Wine Skins Cult wants to put the LEAVEN of the Jews and Pagans into a New Wine Skin and it will BURST if you try to seal it off from others IMPOSING their favorite patternism.

The Bible is filled with good examples--apparently never consulted by "scholors"-- to prove that the LEAVEN is exactly that which the New Wine Skinners IMPOSE on others and thereby turn the Truth of Christ into rot and gas.

6.11.12 REVISED

New Wineskins Magazine is the "organ" of the Change Movement induced by the NACC and "unity meetings" with the goal of creating unity by forcing happy congregations to IMPOSE with high-handed means first the Musical Worship Team and the Musical Instruments which they claim can "praise" God. Therefore, all of the writers and approved posters on the New Wineskins Magazine forum are those writers who have a vendetta against Churches of Christ because they will not bow (over) when the Men-Now-Children pipe hoping to get even Jesus initiated into the Gay Brotherhood which plagues all Priesthoods.

The literate pattern--understood by my mom--
  1. You "boil" the grapes to express the "new wine" or you express the "new wine" and then boil it enough to sterilize and concentrate it.  I knew how to do that as a kid.
  2. You sterilize a clay jar by heat or fumigation by suphur to REMOVE all of the leaven. I did that with Ball jars.
  3. At that time you coat the jar with tar inside and out.
  4. You pour in the new wine, boiling hot.
  5. You cover it and seal it and put it in a dark place: sinking it into spring water often.
  6. The new wine would never ferment even though it might oxidize and get "better."
  7. If it ferments it will burst even a steel bound cask.

To Preserve is:

Suntereo (g4933) soon-tay-reh'-o; from 4862 and 5083; to keep closely together, i.e. (by impl.) to conserve (from ruin); ment. to remember (and obey): - keep, observe, preserve.

By putting new, fumigated or boiled wine (complete and sanctified gospel) into a new, sealed skin Jesus knew that the goal was to keep the wine (gospel) from fermenting.

By winter fire-light, shaping with keen blade
The torches to a point; his wife the while,
Her tedious labour
soothing with a song,
Speeds the shrill comb along the warp,
or else
With Vulcan's aid boils the sweet must-juice down,
And skims with leaves the
quivering cauldron's wave.
(Virgil, Georgics 1:370).

If you intended to travel or GET DRUNK on wine at the symposium you were smart enough that you did not put the new wine in an old wineskin because it was already contained leaven--the universal symbol of pollution or evil.  You did NOT put new wine in a NEW WINESKIN if you had not first sterilized the wine to get rid of the LEAVEN OF EVIL.  No wine skin is good enough to contain fermenting wine.

THE DIONYSUS OR OLD WINE SKIN PATTERN

I don't apologize for the TRUE images which define in no uncertain terms the Dionysus worship first seen in Exodus 32 after which God abandoned Israel to worship the starry host.  Perhaps Christ left us a "way of escape" painted explicitly on clay pots.



When Paul said don't get drunk on wine the literature warns about getting fluted or piped down with wine. Rather, the direct command is to fill up with the WILL OF THE LORD and then being sober you will not make yourself look effeminate or worse. It may be blasphemy to equate the Will of Jesus Christ who was breathed on (spirit) by God the father to the evil of leaven. If you have to use a BIGGER DRESS PATTERN to include all of the World--for which Jesus did not pray--then you may be the fulfilment of a prophetic type.



This is an image of the "Crooked Generation" or race who spent lots of time toasting one another with the skolion and singing the skolios songs.  However, this "near wine" people had enough moral nature that if they had something important to speak about they voted to send out the flute-girls and harp-boys or others to REDUCE the consumption of wine which would utterly disable the rational or logical (LOGOS) discussion as THE PATTERN for the ekklesia or synagogue of Christ.

The New Wine Skins Sectarianism is not built on any Biblical or Cultural knowledge. No one "stored" wine in any "skin" other than for travel or attending the New Wine Skins Festivals honoring Dionysus.

WHAT IS THE OLD LEAVEN [Judaism and paganism] THEY WANT TO MOVE INTO A NEW WINESKIN PURIFIED BY THE BLOOD OF CHRIST?

1Cor. 5:10 Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world,
        or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters;
        for then must ye needs go out of the world.

1Cor. 5:6 Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump?

1Cor. 5:7  Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump,
        as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:

1Cor. 5:8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven,
        neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness;
        but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.

1Cor. 5:9 I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:

The Vineyard (aka wineskins pattern) agrees with recorded history that the use of self-speak in singing and playing instruments was intended to "make the spirits come."
Vineyard Intimacy: the Fuller Pattern

"And Euripides does likewise, in his Bacchae, citing the Lydian usages at the same time with those of Phrygia, because of their similarity:

But ye who left Mt. Tmolus (Sardis was on this mt.), fortress of Lydia, revel-band of mine, women whom I brought from the land of barbarians as my assistants and travelling companions,

There are, it may be, so many kinds of voices in the world, and none of them is without signification. 1 Corinthians 14:10

Therefore if I know not the meaning of the voice, I shall be unto him that speaketh a barbarian, and he that speaketh shall be a barbarian unto me. 1 Corinthians 14:11

uplift the tambourines native to Phrygian cities, inventions of mine and mother Rhea [Eve, Zoe}

And again, happy he who, blest man, initiated in the mystic rites, is pure in his life, . . . who, preserving the righteous orgies of the great mother Cybele, and brandishing the thyrsus on high, and wreathed with ivy, doth worship Dionysus.

Come, ye Bacchae, come, ye Bacchae, bringing down (double entendre) Bromius, (boisterous one) god the child of god, out of the Phrygian mountains into the broad highways of Greece.

Rubel Shelly affirms

"Come Holy Spirit, come, make us truly new creatures in Christ"

1 Cor 5:10 ou pantōs tois pornois tou kosmou toutou ē tois pleonektais kai harpaxin ē eidōlolatrais, epei ōpheilete ara ek tou kosmou exelthein.
pornos , o(,
A. catamite, Ar.Pl.155, X.Mem.1.6.13, D.22.73, Alex.242, etc.
2. sodomite, D.Ep.4.11, Phalar.Ep.4.
3. in LXX and NT, fornicator, LXXSi.23.16, 1 Ep.Cor.5.9, al.
II. idolater, Suid.

Jesus will not PRAY for the World:
Jer. 7:16 Therefore pray not thou for this people,
        neither lift up cry nor prayer for them,
        neither make intercession to me:
        for I will not hear thee.
Jer. 11:14 Therefore pray not thou for this people,
        neither lift up a cry or prayer for them:
        for I will not hear them in the time that they cry unto me for their trouble.
Jer. 14:11 Then said the LORD unto me,
        Pray not for this people for their good.
John 17:9 I pray for them: I pray not for the world,
        but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine.
John 17:15 I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world,
        but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.
Kosmos  A. order, kata kosmon in order, duly, “eu kata k.” Il.10.472, al.; ou kata k. shamefully, Od.8.179;
pl., ornaments, A.Ag.1271; “hoi peri to sōma k.” Isoc.2.32: metaph., of ornaments of speech, such as epithets, Id.9.9 (pl.), Arist.Rh.1408a14, Po.1457b2, 1458a33; hadumelē k. keladein to sing sweet songs of praise, Pi.O.11 (10).13 (s.v.l.).

“kosmon tonde oute tis theōn oute anthrōpōn epoiēsen, all' ēn aei kai estin kai estai pur Heraclit.30; “ho kaloumenos hupo tōn sophistōn k.” X.Mem.1.1.11

God HIDES Himself from the wise or SOPHISTS.

Matthew 11:25 At that time Jesus answered and said,
        I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth,
        because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent,
        and hast revealed them unto babes.
1Corinthians 1:19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise,
        and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
Sophis-tēs , ou, o(, A. master of one's craft, adept, expert, of diviners, Hdt.2.49; of poets, “meletan sophistais prosbalon” Pi.I.5(4).28, cf. Cratin.2; of musicians, “sophistēs . . parapaiōn khelun” (harp player) A.Fr.314, cf. Eup.447, Pl.Com. 140; sophistē Thrēki (sc. Thamyris) E.Rh.924, cf. Ath.14.632c: with modal words added, “hoi s. tōn hierōn melōn” (melody in the holy place)
Covetous pleonekt-ēs
A. = ho pleon ekhōn, one who has or claims more than his due, greedy, grasping, Th.1.40,
        etc.: as Adj. logos p. a greedy, arrogant speech, Hdt.7.158:
        Sup. “pleonektistatos” X.Mem.1.2.12.
2. en panti pleonektēn tōn polemiōn making gain from their losses, Id.Cyr.1.6.27.
3. metaph. in Math., of to huperteles,
THEY WANT YOU TO PAY THEM FOR WATERED OR CORRUPTED NEW WINE ALREADY CONTAMINATED.
1Timothy 6:5 Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds,
        and destitute of the truth,
        supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw [derive them of power]  thyself.
-conflictātĭo , I.  a striking together, a collision, conflict, struggle: exercituum duorum, Gell 15, 18, 3; “for a place in the theatre,” Quint. 3, 8, 29
B. Of verbal strife, a dispute: “hominum,” Vulg. 1 Tim. 6, 5
-por-ismos  A. providing, procuring, “tōn epitēdeiōn” Plb. 3.112.2; earning a living,
money-getting, Ep.Ti.6.6; means of livelihood,

-quaestus   gaining, acquiring; gain, acquisition, profit, advantage, o bring gain, be turned to profit,
he could spend all the tithes offered to Hercules, every one looks to his own interest,
“Of a prostitute (freq. and class.): corpore indignum quaestum facere
Of a parasite: “antiquom quaestum meum alimoniae servo,” Plaut. Pers. 1, 2, 1. —

2 Cor 2:17 For we are not as many, which corrupt the word of God: but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ.

2 Cor 2:17 For we are not, as so many, peddling the word of God; but as of sincerity, but as from God, we speak in the sight of God in Christ.

-ka^pēl-euō , to be a retail-dealer, drive a petty trade, Hdt.1.155, 2.35, Isoc.2.1
(often with a further meaning of ‘cheating’) k. tēs hōras anthos or tēn hōran, of prostitutes,

Hdt.1.155 Heredotus: Cyrus told how to take the FIGHT out of the enemy: [4] But pardon the Lydians, and give them this command so that they not revolt or pose a danger to you: send and forbid them to possess weapons of war,
and order them to wear tunics under their cloaks
and knee-boots on their feet,
and to teach their sons lyre-playing [kitharizein]
and song [psallein] and dance
and shop-keeping [huckstering].
And quickly, O king,
you shall see them become women instead of men,
so that you need not fear them, that they might revolt."

-Adultero , II. Fig., to falsify, adulterate, or give a foreign nature to a thing, to counterfeit
adulterantes verbum, Vulg. 2 Cor. 2, 17 .--
1Timothy 6:6 But godliness with contentment is great gain.
ISN'T IT BLASPHEMY AMONG THE "PROGRESSIVES" TO SAY THAT THE GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM OF CHRIST IS IN FACE LEAVEN MEANING THAT THEY  HAVE THE RIGHT TO STRETCH THE RUBBER WINESKIN TO INCLUDE ALL OF THE VILENESS IMPLICATED BY LEAVEN?

PANIC IN THE END-TIMES: "Nothing is clearer in history than the adoption by successful rebels of the methods They were accustomed to condemn in the forces they deposed." - Will and Ariel Durant.


I HAVE ADDED SOME OF THE WINE SKINS ARTICLES WHEN THE CHURCH WAS FALLING INTO AN EFFETE OR EFFEMINATE STYLE OF WORSHIP WELL PROPHESIED IN ISAIAH 3 AND REVELATION 17-18.

INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC PROMOTED BY DUPES OF THE NACC.  The Old Wineskins Magazine was begun when Rubel Shelly was befriended by a Christian Church which allowed him to momentarily his collection of 3 or 4 churches into a new building. The Jubilee Movement intended to RESTRUCTURE all churches of Christ as the Discples Restructured (1968) and the independents completed their 1927-1971 secting out. About this time Leroy Garrett invented the Stone-Campbell Movement and began actively working with the universities to seduce young preachers.
NEW WINESKINS: JAY GUIN'S ASSUALT ON THE USE OF INSTRUMENTS IN THE SCHOOL OF CHRIST
  1. Introduction: the Instrumental Music Issue: Jay Guin................................-My Review
  2. God's Salvatioon, Galatians, and the Instrument: Jay Guin.Rev 12.18.10...-My Review
  3. The Early Church on Instrumental Music Danny Corbitt:..Rev 12.20.10... .. -My Review
  4. 'Thy Kingdom Come' and the Instrument: Jay Guin ........................ -My Review
  5. Reconsidering Ephesians 5:19: Clyde Symonette................My Review
  6. Psallō: Lost in the Translation? Danny Corbitt............................. -My Review
  7. Reflective or Regulative? Al Maxey ....................Rev 12.13.10..... ........ -My Review
  8. An Afternoon with Rick Atchley and Chris Seidman, Part 1  My Review
  9. An Afternoon with Rick Atchley and Chris Seidman, Part 2  My Review
  10. An Afternoon with Rick Atchley and Chris Seidman, Part 3  My Review
  11. An Afternoon with Rick Atchley and Chris Seidman, Part 4  My Review
  12. Reflections on My Interview with Rick Atchley and Chris Seidman ..........-My Review
  13. David's Psalms and the New Testament Church:  Clyde Symonette: -My Review
  14. Beyond the Pitch Pipe: Ryan Christian:.................................................-My Review
  15. And So, in Conclusion: Jay Guin: ............................................... -My Review

There is not a Command, Example, Remote Inference or Rationale for any godly group ever assembling for "congregational singing with or without instrumental noise."  Therefore, how would anyone come to the conclusion that Instruments are aids to teaching the Word of God?  They would have to ignore the simple definition of words like SPEAK which is the opposite of poetry or music.

On the Babylonish side, instruments were added by David long after God had sentenced the people the people back to Babylon and their worship to Assyrian or Babylonian style.


As the begining-time PATTERN of the musical fall from grace at Mount Sinai and being abandoned to Babylonianism, Revelation 17 warns about the end-time Babylon Mother of Harlots (defined as Jerusalem under the Monarchy).  She uses lusted after "fruits" identical to the fruits in Amos.  Her speakers, singers and instrument players are defined as sorcerers: identical to Babylon.

THE PATTERN LEADING TO BEING CAST ALIVE INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE.

No one who follows "Just Christ" and has read the prophets can, without an alien agenda, think that "machines for doing hard work" are not radically condemned.  Christ in Isaiah defined the HOT FATE and the MARKS of His enemies driving themselves into hell. The Assyrian worship prevailed in Jerusalem much of the time and Isaiah warns of all NATION-HOODS who trust in kings, priests and levites.

And his breath [SPIRIT], as rushing water in a valley, reach reach as far as the neck, and be divided, to confound the nations for their vain error; error also shall pursue them and overtake them. Isaiah 30:28 LXX

Must ye always rejoice, and go into my holy places continually, as they that keep a feast? and must ye go with a pipe, as those that rejoice into the mountain of the Lord, to the God of Israel Isaiah 30:29 LXX

and the Lord shall make his glorious voice to be heard and the wrath of his arm, to make a display with wrath and anger and devouring flame: he shall lighten terribly, and his wrath shall be as water and violent hail. Isaiah 30:30 LXX

For by the voice of the Lord the Assyrians shall be overcome, even by the stroke where with he shall smite them. Isaiah 30:31 LXX

And it shall happen to him from every side, that they from whom their hope of assistance was, in which he trusted, themselves shall war against him in turn with drums and with harp. Isaiah 30:32 LXX

For thou shalt be required before thy time: has it been prepared for thee also to reign? nay, God has prepared for thee a deep trench, wood piled fire and much wood: the wrath of the Lord shall be as a trench kindled with sulphur. Isaiah 30:33 LXX

THE PATTERN DEFINED BY PAUL OUTLAWS ALL SPIRITUAL AGITATION OR THE  "LADED BURDEN" ALWAYS BY WOMEN OR THEIR ALLIES FALSE PREACHERS. Restricting the role of women was to PREVENT the outbreak of wrath or ORGY.
Gal 5:12 As for those agitators, I wish they would go the whole way and emasculate themselves!

Conturbo 

Abs-cīdo Literally to castrate while under the musical power of cyble or Isis
“orationem alicui,” id. 45, 37, 9: “omnium rerum respectum sibi,” id. 9, 23, 12: “omnia praesidia,” Tac. H. 3, 78: “vocem,
“(fabulae) tenui oratione et scripturā levi,” Ter. Phorm. prol. 5
altera sermonis, contentio disceptationibus

The Israelites rose up in PLAY or musical idolatry at Mount Sinai: the trinity was Osiris, Isis and Hathor:

-Gallus , i, m., = Gallos Strab., 2. (Acc. to II. A., of or belonging to the priests of Cybele; hence, transf.) Of or belonging to the priests of Isis, Gallic: “turma,” the troop of the priests of Isis, Ov. Am. 2, 13, 18.

-turma  “Iliae,” id. C. S. 38: cristatae exercitus. Claud. III. Cons. Hon. 133; id. in Ruf. 2, 343: “Alexan dri,” Plin. 34, 8, 19, § 64: “feminea,” Ov. P. 4, 10, 51: “Gallica,” i. e. of priests of Isis, id. Am. 2, 13, 18.

-Fēmĭnĕus , a, um, adj. id., II. Transf., with an accessory notion of contempt, womanish, effeminate, unmanly: vox, Quint, 1, 11, 1; cf. Ov. A. A. 3, 286: “pectus,” Ov. M. 13, 693: “amor praedae,” Verg. A. 11, 782: “lunae femineum et molle sidus,” Plin. 2, 101, 104, § 223.

See Catullus

CHRYSOSTOM IDENTIFIES those who drive you out of your homeland:

That by lying about the Spirit OF Christ universal condemnation of music a the MARK of telling God to "Shut your face."
    For they had compelled them to abandon their own fatherland, their liberty, and their heavenly kindred, and to seek an alien and foreign one; they had cast them out of Jerusalem which is above and free, and compelled them to wander forth as captives and emigrants.....But in truth neither the eye nor any other part of us is to blame, but the depraved will only.

    But if you will not allow this, why do you not mutilate the tongue for blasphemy, the hands for rapine, the feet for their evil courses, in short, the whole body?
      For the ear enchanted by the sound of a flute hath often enervated the soul; and the perception of a sweet perfume by the nostrils hath bewitched the mind, and made it frantic for pleasure. Yet this would be extreme wickedness and satanic madness. Note 1.

ALL musical terms speak of enchantment or SORCERY: why else would people LIE about the Bible, lie TO God and lie ABOUT God? A note reads:

Note 1: Paul wishes that the circumcisers would not stop with circumcision but go beyond it to mutilation (make themselves eunuchs) like the priests of Cybele. A severe irony and similar to the one in Philip. iii. 2, 3, where Paul calls the boasters of circumcision “the Concision.” Self mutilation was a recognized form of heathen worship especially in Pessinus in Galatia and therefore quite familiar to the readers. Thus by their glorying in the flesh the Galatians relapsed into their former heathenism,--Schaff and Lightfoot. The Revised Version here has, “would even cut themselves off,” the American Committee has, “would go beyond circumcision.”—G.A.]

THE END TIME PROPHESIED PATTERN OF APOLLO, ABADDON, APOLLYON AND THE LOCUSTS (MUSES)
Revelation 9:20 And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk:
Revelation 9:21 Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.
pharmakon 3.enchanted potion, philtre: hence, charm, spell ,Od.4.220 sq., Ar.Pl.302, Theoc.2.15, PSI1.64.20 (i B. C.); pharmakoistonandr'emęnenAr.Th.561 ; toiautaechô ph. such charms have I, Hdt.3.85, cf. Apoc.9.21.
2. c. gen. also, a means of producing something, “ph. sōtērias” Id.Ph.893; “mnēmēs kai sophias ph.”
mnēmēs a means of producing something, written Myths to make you forget
sophia A. cleverness or skill in handicraft and art, n music and singing, tekhnē kai s. h.Merc.483, cf. 511; in poetry, in divination,of the Telchines, Pi.O.7.53; [The father of Judas]

pharmakos 1 I. a poisoner, sorcerer, magician, NTest.
II. one who is
sacrificed as an atonement for others, a scape-goat [Cappella], Ar.; and, since worthless fellows were reserved for this fate, pharmakos became a general name of reproach, id=Ar., Dem.

2 Mendici, mimae, balatrones . The priests of Isis and Cybele were beggars by profession, and under the vail of religion were often guilty of the most criminal excesses. Mimae were players of the most debauched and dissolute kind; and balatrones, in general, signifies all scoundrels, buffoons, and parasites, who had their name, according to the old commentator, from Servilius Balatro. Balatrones hoc genus omne, for omne hoc balatronum genus, is a remarkable sort of construction.
For without are dogs, and sorcerers (pharmakos: poison with a magical drug incantation), and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie. Revelation 22:15
Keleb (h3611) keh'leb; from an unused root mean. to yelp, or else to attack; a dog; hence (by euphemism) a male prostitute: - dog.

And the sorcerer is:

"Applied to Persian priests or astrologers of Babylon. Pharmakos (g5333) an adjective signifying "devoted to magical arts," is used as a noun, "a sorcerer," especially one who uses drugs, potions, spells, enchantments, Rev 21:8, in the best texts (some have pharmakeus) and 22:15" Vine

PATTERNISM: one of those Raca Words.

The topic of PATTERNISM
is one of the continual efforts to give vent to people who have their own PATTERNISM which is to use the widow's purse to spread hatred against those who think that God HAS any plan for humanity at all. Edward Fudge says that Jesus IS the pattern.  If they teach "Just Jesus" when Paul said to KNOW only a crucified Jesus then they can ADD a few more pieces to THEIR dress pattern.  In their lust for David the dress is a bare skin.

If there is NO PATTERN for instrumental music in a Church of Christ, and people make the new PATTERN include instrumental music then the Spirit OF (preposition) Christ in the prophets brands the instrumental patternism as devoid of LIGHT.
No one in recorded history REFUSED to use instruments in the presence of God because of SILENCE as a law: "The Lord is in His Holy Temple let all the earth keep silence before Him" (Christ in Hab 2)Since the Bible is NOT silent and radically associates instruments with those REFUSING to follow the Word, and because the Presbyterians out of which the Campbells came had NEVER in recorded history used instruments, there was no need to construct a Law of Silence.  That law is owned by the Disciples / Christian churches / and new wineskinners. THEY proposed there was SILENCE (not being really alert) THEY had the right to IMPOSE instruments.  Non-instrumentalists insist that there is no command, example or remote pattern for imposing instruments in the Bible School, those who impose have to hallucinate any rationale.

H. Leo Boles on Unity: Includes the basis for fraternal unity in the 1832 agreement of a few men

W.R. Walker, in Christian Standard, May 27, 1939, said: "There are two areas in our religious living in which the authority of Christ must be recognized. The first embraces all his teaching and that of his inspired followers,
        the `vocal area' ;
        but there is another area, the `area of silence."' He further said: 

"I am persuaded that Christ has authority in the `areas of silence.' 
    Christ, by his silence, in every situation concerning which he has left no direct teaching, 
    has bestowed on ME this authority to act for myself."

Boles. Here are the two standards or rules recognized by many in the "Christian Church," namely, that of "walking by faith," and that of "walking by opinion." W.R. Walker calls the opinions of man in the "areas of silence" "the authority of Christ." This is tantamount to saying that man's opinions in the "areas of silence" are of equal force with the word of God. 

I join issue with him on this point. There can be no unity in the "area of silence," as there can be no unity on opinions when each man claims the authority to do what is right in his own eyes. This would violate every scripture that God has given instructing his people to be "of the same mind, the same judgment of one accord."

Remember that the Musical Discorders IMPOSE because they say their opinion is the command of Christ.

Those who IMPOSE pass judgment and New Wine Skins Magazine promotes the worst of the worst:

Krino (g2919) kree'-no; prop. to distinguish, i.e. decide (mentally or judicially); by impl. to try, condemn, punish: - avenge, conclude, condemn, damn, decree, determine, esteem, judge, go to (sue at the) law, ordain, call in question, sentence to, think..

And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloke also. Mt.5:40

krinô  3. pass sentence upon, condemn, D.19.232:-- Pass., to be judged, condemned, kakourgou . . esti krithent' apothanein Id.4.47 ; mę krinete, hina mę krithęte Ev.Matt.7.1 ; the judgement of a court,  

Demosthenes On the Embassy 19. [232] With this example before his eyes, who, men of Athens,
        will ever wish to prove himself an honest man, or to go on embassy for nothing, 
        if he is neither to make money nor to be held more worthy of your confidence
        than those who have made money?  
Today you are not merely adjudging this case: you are legislating for all future time
        whether every ambassador is basely to serve your enemies for hire,
        or without fee or bribe to give his best service to you.
The Qahal, Synagogue or Church of Christ is fully defined in Exodus BEFORE Israel was abandoned to the law because of musical idolatry.

PATTERN FOR THE BOOK OF THE COVENANT OF GRACE (Abrahamic)

HISTORY: The Command to teach The Book of The Law (Abrahamic).  While real scholars believe that the synagogue always existed where God had His own opinion to teach, the first pattern was given by Jethro BEFORE the people fell into musical idolatry of the Egyptian trinity which was beyond redemption.
Ex. 18:19 Hearken now unto my voice, I will give thee counsel, and God shall be with thee:
        Be thou for the people to Godward,
        that thou mayest bring the causes unto God:
Ex. 18:20 And thou shalt teach them ordinances and laws, [The Book of The Covenant of Grace]
        and shalt shew them the way wherein they must walk,
        and the work that they must do.
Caerĭmōnĭa
A. Objectively, sacredness, sanctity (in this sense rare, and only in sing.): sanctitas regum, et caerimonia deorum. Caes. ap. Suet. Caes. 6: legationis. Cic. Rosc. Am. 39, 113; Tac. A. 4, 64 fin.: 3, 61: loci. id. ib. 14, 22 fin.—
B.  Subjectively, a holy dread, awe, reverence, veneration of the Deity 
Ostendo , A, In gen., to show, disclose, exhibit, manifest: ille dies cum gloriā maximā sese nobis ostendat,
2. 
ransf.: “vocem,” to make heard, Phaedr. 1, 13, 9
1. To show, express, indicate by speech or signs; to give to understand, to declare, say, tell, make known, etc. (syn.: indico, declaro, significo).—With acc.: “illud ostendit,” Cic. Att. 1, 1, 4.—With obj.- or rel.-clause: “ostendit se cum rege colloqui velle,” Nep. Con. 3, 2: conversation with a praecepter  or teacher. Verbum  a. Orally, by word of mouth. D. In eccl. Lat. as a translation of logos  which is opposite of poetry or music.
When these sacred assemblies were called they were to blow a horn as a signal.  However, they were not to alarm or try to triumph over the people with "vocal or instrumental rejoicing or elevated forms of speech."  Disciples know not to make music when Christ comes to teach.
Ex. 18:21 Moreover thou shalt provide
        out of all the people able men, [Apt to teach that which has been taught]
        such as fear God,
        men of truth, [Thy Word is truth: scholars cannot produce this]
        hating covetousness; [Don't use your bread money to pay for the free Word Isaiah 55]
and place such over them, to be
        rulers of thousands,
        and rulers of hundreds,
        rulers of fifties, and 
        rulers of tens:
THE INVENTION OF THE TRINITY OF THREE PERSONS GIVING THEM THE HOLY SPIRIT TO SPEAK BEYOND THE SACRED PAGES.

The Old Wine Skins was the musical, worship of Dionysus   This was the Musical Idolatry at Mount Sinai for which God removed The Book of The Covenant of Grace, Gave them The book of The Law, turned the Civil-Military-Clergy over to worship the Starry Host (Egypt, Babylon and sentenced them to captivity and death in Assyria and Babylon.

Christ speaks through the Prophets and Apostles and people are anxious to mar His character by making him a "wine drinker and a party kind of guy. 

Dionysus was the universal NEW wine Skin god of His time. Jesus refutes the worship of Zeus and Dionysus and refuses to put His Words into anyone of the WORLD or Kosmos or within the WOLF-PACK.

Jay Quin Beware the Pattern in the New Wine Skins
Patternism in Churches of Christ: A Template for Sin Royce Ogle
Danny Dodd and Royce Ogle: Legalism
Titus 1 Titus set in place those men already laboring in preaching and teaching.
Behold the Pattern, Rubel Shelly
A Spirit for the Rest of Us: Tim Woodruff: Home of the New Wine Skins
INDEX OF LYNN ANDERSONS BRINGS PROMISE KEEPERS
SHEPHERDING AND DISCIPLING DILEMA TO ST. LOUIS.An Index of Articles of the turn from the WORD to SYMBOLS AND IMAGES (IDOLS). Don't confess your sexual secrets to ANYONE: He will turn and rend you. A REAL FRIEND could blackmail you with it. SYMBOLS, MUSIC, AND ICONS MEANS EFFEMINATE IDOLATRY.
The National Shepherding Movement

An Index of Article Reviews of Max Lucado's Views which includes a city-wide denomination under the MOTHERCHURCH and DISCIPLING PASTOR to upgrade the morals.

Hostile take over of Oak Hills Church of Christ.

Is Max Lucado Bringing Promise Keeper's SHEPHERDING MOVEMENT to Oak Hills.This would add to the Purpose Driven Cult and extablish a PROMISE KEEPERS denomination since over 100 "pastors" are already organized by MAX.

Carrol D. Osburn on Women: The ACU Agenda: Train Prophetic roles, Channelers and Facilitators the method of subverting the 'hierarchial" views of Jesus and Paul is "Feminist hermeneutics stands over against patriarchal hermeneutics" its goal achieved "by small, often unnoticed acts of SUBVERSION. Numerous such incremental changes, like EROSION, will eventually bring down the FORTRESS " ( p. 32).

Zeus and Dionysus were worshiped in the Jerusalem Temple as part of the ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION. You can check out the PERVERTED details of the early and end-time connections between MUSIC trying to worship a SPIRIT GOD and the PERVERTED Dionysus whom the Jews associated with Jesus.

Achish was the king of Gath which was the place of the wine vats and the women playing on musical instruments as all were naked to bring on fertility:

Gath (h1660) gath; prob. from 5059 (in the sense of treading out grapes); a wine-press (or vat for holding the grapes in pressing them): - (wine-) press (fat).

Nagan (h5059) naw-gan'; a prim. root; prop. to thrum, i. e. beat a tune with the fingers; espec. to play on a stringed instrument; hence (gen.) to make music: - player on instruments, sing to the stringed instruments, melody, ministrel, play (-er, -ing..

Sorry, but this is the universal symbol of new Wine Skins and music.

Treading out judgment to the beat of instrumental music is God's job.

Psalm 68:25 and Psalm 87:7 show that Nagan and Chalal or halal can mean the same thing: to play on musical instruments which was associated with treading out new wine and symbolic of God's treading out His wrath as He has the commics in sore derision.

And he changed his behaviour before them, and feigned himself mad (halal) in their hands, and drummed on the doors of the gate, and let his spittle fall down upon his beard. 1 Sam 21:13

However, susceptible the Hebrews were to magical, charismatic music, the king of Gath knew that the "spirit" came out of the vats:

Have I (Achish) need of mad men, that ye have brought this fellow to play (rave like) the mad man in my presence? shall this fellow come into my house? 1Sam 21:15

No! Don't let him in.

The days of visitation are come, the days of recompence are come; Israel shall know it: the prophet is a fool, the spiritual man is mad, for the multitude of thine iniquity, and the great hatred. Ho.9:7

The Lord hath made thee priest in the stead of Jehoiada the priest, that ye should be officers in the house of the Lord, for every man that is mad, and maketh himself a prophet, that thou shouldest put him in prison, and in the stocks. Je.29:26

If David's halal praise would not admit him into the company of Achish do you think it could "bring the worshipers into the presence of God?"

Nevertheless, the people who hire them think that the froth from gone-wild, charismatic speaking is the holy spirit oozing out:

Pachazuwth (h6350) pakh-az-ooth'; from 6348; frivolity: - lightness.

Pachaz (h6349) pakh'-az; from 6348; ebullition, i. e. froth (fig. lust): - unstable

Pachaz (h6348) paw-khaz'; a prim. root; to bubble up or froth (as boiling water), i. e. (fig.) to be unimportant: - light.

These are exactly the terms used in Ephesians 4 and 5 before he warned against the buffons and demanded that the Spirit come from the Words of Christ and be the only source of teaching.

Her prophets are light and treacherous persons: her priests have polluted the sanctuary, they have done violence (Chamac) to the law. Zeph 3:4

To pollute a place or thing is to deprive it of its rightful role. These false prophets always used music and did great damage to the Law of God. Pollute is:

Chalal (h2490) khaw-lal'; a prim. root [comp. 2470]; prop. to bore, i. e. (by impl.) to wound, to dissolve; figurativ. to profane (a person, place or thing), to break (one's word), to begin (as if by an "opening wedge"); denom. (from 2485) to play (the flute): defile, break, defile, eat (as common things), gather the grape thereof, take inheritance, pipe, player on instruments, pollute, (cast as) profane (self), prostitute, slay (slain), sorrow, stain, wound

THE DAVID PATTERN OF THE NEW WINE SKINS WHICH BEGAN AT MOUNT SINAI

This is the David Patternism of Religious Musicians.

The white linen alb (alba vestis) is the garment of the priests of Isis; the top of the heads of the priests of Anubis was shaven (Juvenal), hence the tonsure; the chasuble of the Christian "Father" is the copy from the upper garment of the Phoenician priest-sacrificers, a garment called calasiris, tied at the neck and descending to their heels.

The stole comes to our priests from the female garment worn by the Galli, the male nautches of the temple, whose office was that of the Jewish Kadashim; (Vide II Kings 23:7, for the true word) their belt of purity (?) from the ephod of the Jews, and the Isiac cord; the priests of Isis being vowed to chastity. (Vide Ragon, for details. )

"The ritual dance was probably widespread in the ancient East. David's performance has Egyptian parallels. Seti I, the father of Rameses II, and three other Pharaohs are said to have danced before a deity, and Asiatic monuments attest the custom elsewhere... The description of David's dance: he 'danced before Jehovah with all his might... leaping and dancing before Jeh' (2 S 6: 14-16) suggests three features that particular display and the mode of dancing which it represented: violent exertion, leaping (Mephassez) and whirling round (mekharker) . Perhaps the whirling dance of Islam is a modern parallel to the last." (Int Std Bible Ency., Games, p. 1170).

"Wearing a linen ephod, David once performed an ecstatic dance before the ark of the Lord. From the fact that his wife Michal chided him for having uncovered himself before his servant's handmaidens (2 Sam. 6:20), it seems likely that the king's exhibition was vulgar and revealing. Apparently as a retaliation for her scolding, David fathered no children by Michal (2 Sam. 6:23)" (Garrison, p. 31-32)

The harp of Dan 3:5, 7, 10, 15, was a strictly secular instrument for merrymaking, and it fits well into the picture of Nebuchadnezzar's banquet." "As 'sambuke' the instrument was well known though of ill repute, as that of the vulgar musicians and harlots." The lute "Not being a temple instrument, it was like the tambourine, usually played by women." (Interpreter's Dictionary of the Bible, p. 474, Abingdon).

THIS WAS THE PATTERN IN EGYPTS WHICH PROMISED TO LEAD YOU INTO THE PRESENCE OF THE GODS.

The History of Heredotus, Chapter Three reads:

About the time when Cambyses arrived at Memphis, Apis appeared to the Egyptians. Now Apis is the god whom the Greeks call Epaphus. As soon as he appeared, straightway all the Egyptians arrayed themselves in their gayest garments, and fell to feasting and jollity: which when Cambyses saw, making sure that these rejoicings were on account of his own ill success, he called before him the officers who had charge of Memphis, and demanded of them-

"Why, when he was in Memphis before, the Egyptians had done nothing of this kind, but waited until now, when he had returned with the loss of so many of his troops?" The officers made answer,

"That one of their gods had appeared to them, a god who at long intervals of time had been accustomed to show himself in Egypt-

and that always on his appearance the whole of Egypt feasted and kept jubilee."

Here is why Musical Worship with Female Sexuality Enrages The Rational (Spiritual) Mind With A Holy Wrath! Non-Sedentary females are projections of sexual power--with or without clothes.

> Hand Clapping Show of Contempt for the MASCULINE Loosers: Not connected to "Worship" 11/01/01
Dealing With Doctrinal Issues: Romans 14-15 and Instrumental Music. 10/21/01 Judas Bag at right on flutecase: Dionysus, New Wine Skin Symbol:
According to Philo, the gods of the pagans exploit this weakness of men. For the sake of a better effect, and with the intention of more easily cheating their devotees, they have set their lies to melodies, rhythms and meters.

Philodemus held as self deceptive the view that music mediated religious ecstasy. He saw the entire condition induced by the noise of cymbals and tambourines as a disturbance of the spirit. He found it significant that, on the whole, only women and effeminant men fell into this folly. Accordingly, nothing of value could be attributed to music; it was no more than a slave of the sensation of pleasure, which satisfied much in the same way that food and drink did. Johannes Quasten

"Liberal literary criticism allows each community the right to re-write Scripture. The canon (not necessarily of biblical texts, but at least in the meanings of those texts) is not closed.

"It is difficult to know whether Fish intended this as a by-product, but the idea of authority resting in the interpretive community gave rise to narrative theology-- a theology which simply affirms a given community's right to come up with its own interpretation, or to "write" its own new biblical text.  Narrative theology gave rise to various narrative communities-- hence, the arrival of liberation and feminist theologies.

"Narrative theology does not recognize any absolute truth or meaning in a text.  Because Buber is the founder, most narrative theology, especially in Jewish circles, is related to Auschwitz."

"And, what is the purpose of reading texts, for narrative theologians? Why, of course, to affirm the self. Hazards in the Mainline.

Rubel Shelly: From Wine Skins To Jubilee To Narrative Theology--The Next Paradigm. 7/2/01 Narrative Theology affirms a given community's right to come up with its own interpretation, or to "write" its own new biblical text. And, what is the purpose of reading texts, for narrative theologians? Why, of course, to affirm the self."

Rubel Shelly / John York: The Exodus Pattern for Worship and Community: Retrospective 7/2/01
Rubel Shelly / John York:
Rising Up To Play in Musical Idolatry Made The Exodus a Failure

Antionio Gramsci: Post Modernism Defines Narrative Theology


Faithsite: From Prayerful Brinkmanship to Dancing on the Rim
E-Mail: Any Lawful Worship Music: instrumental, harmonized, non-inspired?
Secular, Voodoo and Effeminacy in Modern Songs.
Faith Matters Forum: The Deaconess
Examples: Jeff Walling George Whitefield and Theater Background
How Not To Build Community:
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Volkism: Restoring the Mystic
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FaithSite.com: Attacks on Our Views against Instrumental Music
FaithSite.com: Kyle Matthews, the Silly War, a Review
Was the division between Northern churches and Southern churches (Baptists, Presbyterians, Church of Christ) based on Racism? So goes the charge against a faithful defender of Scripture against the forced introduction of instrumental music in Seattle. This charge was gathered from a Pepperdine extension course. The conclusion is that to oppose the forceful introduction of instrumental music means that you are in favor of slavery even today. Click Here
Wine Skins: Mike Cope of Highland Church of Christ - Breaking Down ALL Walls.

Betty asked: Is it a sin to sing church songs and play piano to a dying person or at home?

To See Where Ecumenical Movements Lead

Rubel Shelly, David Lipscomb and the Billy Graham Connection
Rubel Shelly And Woodmont Attacked by Satan?

To see where Rubel Shelly and Woodmont Hills are going, you may want to read Rubel Shelly's repudiation of the none use of instrumental music in worship. This, of course, is the step required before the use of musical worship teams could be presumed to have mediating power between God and the worshiper.

While Dr. Shelly proposes to preach only a "core gospel" he not only repudiates any presumed authority for not using instruments, he goes further and demands that they are the gift of God. At the same time, he declares on the side of A Capella for the "plenary" sessions of the church but allows them for other "non-worship" rituals.

However, at the Restoration Forum at Abilene Christian University (ACU), Dr. Shelly had already established a foundation hostile to the purely A Capella view by repudiating those who resist full fellowship with instrumental groups.

The Jubilee movement gets its buzz words and themes from the Vineyard Movement. Even "mild" musical worship teams or the concept of "praise" as a way to revive the church or move the worshipers into God's presence is a charismatic movement under Vineyard influence through Promise Keepers.

In addition, many Jubilee-infected churches also are under the control of a National Shepherding Movement and a local Promise Keeper secret agent. Once your local representatives have fallen under the effeminate mind alteration of, say, PK in Atlanta, they may have lost all right to choose without being tossed out by PK Central Committee.

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Post Modern Cults: Post Christ, Post Biblical
Linda Poole's PK Resources NEW
Discuss: Experiencing God - Henry T. Blackaby PK Keynoter
Signs of a Cult
Hitler: Völkish State: Supporters (emotional) and Leaders (Intellectual)
The Machiavelli FAX of Life Resisting Change (From Faith Matters)
---Machiavelli Prince Ch3-Ch6-Ch7
---Mein Kampf Vol 2, Ch5, Ch8, Ch11
Sons of Shamgar Warriors of Promise Keepers?
--- --- But what if the Philistines is us?
Promise Keepers NATIONAL SHEPHERDING NETWORK - Discipling
---Discipleship Movement - Promise Keepers Warning
---The Plan from Stand In the Gap
The Praise Craze To Replace Teaching the Words of Christ The Vineyard Movement in Your Bedroom!
---An Example Opposed To Preaching Jesus with a Psalm
 
Because the totally sectarian effort in Seattle to move non-musical churches under the umbrella of musical churches to "save our kids." I have a Restoration Index focused upon Seattle. This division is the natural product of the Jubilee - ZOE "female instructing principle" attack which Satan sold Eve in all of the ancient tratitions.
 
This totally non-Biblical ploy which is the "gospel" of the Jubilee Movement is a device to keep you from restricting the paid pastor from doing anything s/he wants to do while preventing you from saving the church from sinking into effeminate control with the performing arts. As Navigating The Winds of Change by Lynn Anderson describes his "push them to the brink but jerk them back if they go unstable on you" informs us, it might take 15 years to get some practices introduced over the will of the congregation kept totally ignorant of the APPLE of the Words of Christ which are the only resources of our speaking to teaching one another and leaving the singing and melody in the heart. My warning -- understood by those who will persevere -- can be understood in these articles.
 
Woodmont Hills Church, Billy Graham and Catholics NEW
The Unforgivable Sin and The Core Gospel
The CORE Gospel Rejects Musical Legalism
How Ezekiel and Jesus Define the Musical Harlot
Zoe and The Mystic Dance of Jesus
Story of ZOE in Hypostasis of the Archons
Professional Performing Ministers John Chrysostom
Typical Proof-Text for Praise TEAMS
Team Praising of God? Ephesians 1
 
The Americal Restoration Movement is a two-century old effort among sincere believers in God's Word to restore the church by stripping away all of the coats of paint added because of civic pride or personal presumption usually for the personal advantage of those ministers transmuted by gold into masters.
 
In its true sense, a sectarian is one who has made a choice. It may not be our choice but it may not be evil. I will fight for your right to hold your choice and warn you of the evil of those who try to limit your choice. In an evil sense sectarianism is:
 
"An opinion especially a self-willed opinion, which is substituted for submission to the power of truth, and leads to division and the formation of sects... Such erroneous opinions are frequently the outcome of personal preference or the prospect of advantage." Vine
 
Using the AZTEC Paradigm of Rubel Shelly and Randy Harris and I will take the liberty of paraphrasing as they take the liberty of using the musical human sacrifice of the AZTECS as authority to burn down the old instutions and rebuild them in the form of a new wine skinS:
 
"Those being punched in the nose in the assembly create a sectarian disturbance by yelling, 'ouch'."
 
Being faithful to the Jubilee - ZOE creed, those who attempt to inform the congregation of a sly trick to legalistically introduce instrumental music on top of the unlawful musical worship teams as pastor - mediators, are gossips, opponents of 'God's annointeds,' murmurers and complainers and OUCH yellers."
 
"Change Agents: The churchman . . . who accepts the injunction that he must change to mean that he must come up with something totally new, and that he must abandon everything from the religion of the past, is likely to find that he has surrounded himself with a small coterie of secular men, men who believe as religiously as he does that they are the wave of the future and that the evolutionary process assures their triumph as the most advanced and most progressive--and, yes, let's say it--the fittest of their species. Andrew M. Greeley, Unsecular Man 
 
Paul Conkin's Cane Ridge America's Pentecost-Hardcover
Jubilee 99 - Latter Reign - Praying: Thy Kingdom Come? Part One
Jubilee 99 - Latter Reign - Thy Kingdom Has Come? Part Two
Praise , Performance , Music , Drama , Dance , Worship or Idolatry of Talent? Part One
Praise , Performance , Music , Drama , Dance , Worship or Idolatry of Talent? Part Two 
 
Chrysostom, John Homily I, Worship Drama, Music, Dance or Christ?
Tertullian, The Shows, or De Spectaculis, Modern Religious Drama and Music
Plato - Augustine: Wine and Musical Worship as Effeminate
Aristotle Politics Chapter 13 On Music and Drama as Worship - Effeminate and Effeminates
Aristotle Poetics, Worship Music and Drama
Clement of Alexandria - Exhortation to the Heathen - Singing, Drama and Idolatry
 
Jubilee 99 General Background Fragments
 
Woodmont Hills - Look to the Hills - The Zoe Group - Human Potential -
GracEmail - Edward Fudge - The Magi - Prophet Zoroaster -
For the Marks of Dominion Theology
Max Lucado - Church of Christ - Catholic Unity?
Billy Goat Wine Skins - Tastes Just Terrible
Joseph Campbell and Wineskin Affect Images
The Book of Jubilees Catholic Encyclopedia
Jubilee Catholic Encyclopedia
Catholic Change to a Legal Jubilee
New Wine and Women as False Prophets
Christianity Today - Jubilee 99 - Bill Hybels
Willow Creek - Seeker Service - Woodmont Hills
Woodmont Hills - Jubilee 99 - Willow Creek Association-
Family of God - church of Christ - Woodmont Hills
 
The Ancient Wine Skin Gospel Fragments
"I tell Thee that man is tormented by NO GREATER ANXIETY than to find some one quickly to whom he can hand over that GIFT OF FREEDOM with which the ill-fated creature is born. But only one who can appease their conscience can take over their freedom. Dostoyevsky
 
Nashville Jubilee 99 and New Wine Skins - Introduction
Rick Atchley Jubilee 99 Learning from Feminine Worship
The Wine Skin Creed of Jubilee 99
Anxiety Which Prozac And Jubilee 99 Not Cure
Digging Up Old Wineskin Paradigms According to Joseph Campbell
Jubilee - Like Movements Often a Death Gasp
Jubilee Movements Confusion about the Kingdom
Jubilee May Deny the Atonement
Ancient Jubilee Finding a Scape Goat for Satan
Book of Jubilees Pattern for Jubilee 99 Wineskin Kingdom?
The Testament of Levi Warns of Jubilee 99 Patterns
The Kingdom of Christ Has Come
The Biblical Wineskin Parable Refutes Jubilee Works
The Blood of Christ or Old Wineskin Leaven of Jubilee 99
Wine Skins of Jubilee 99 a Dangerous Paradigm for the Sober Church
The Ancient Jubilee Wineskin Pattern
Jubilee 99 and the Water Gospel


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