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Farmer's Branch Church of Christ Chris Seidman, Farmers Branch church of Christ, Texas. Preacher's rationale for INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC to lead people to Christ. Chris Seidman's views are identical to pagan religions. However, we know of no Jewish or pagan Holy Place into which the MUSICIANS could go. 10/04/02
Chris Seidman on the word Psallo and harps in Revelation to justify sowing massive discord. Unfortunately none of the discorders read the Word for themselves but trust the NACC white pape. Peter said that people twist Paul's writings to their own destruction. That is why they do not understand that paul used the outward singing and melody IN THE HEART as antithesis to SPEAKING that which is written for our learning..
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7.12.11
Review of Truitt Adair's review of Rick Atchley. Preachers are shooting blanks and keeping their career path safe as long as they agree that Amos (by the Spirit of Christ) condemned only their "attitude." And as long as they say that God commanded anything in the cursed king, kingdom, temple, sacrificial system at which they made exorcism noises never called music. The church is built upon the Prophets and Apostles all who radically condemn the the Civil-Military-Clergy complex as robbers, parasites and hypocrites (defined as speakers, singer and instrument players). There is NO historic scholar who did not agree that Amos was condemning the use of instruments in Samaria.
7.04.11
Christ Atchley and Rick Atchley sending strong delusions at New Wineskins.
THIS IS THE DIRECT COMMAND
2Timothy 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season,
out of season; reprove, rebuke,
exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
2Timothy 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine;
but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers,
having itching ears; [eager for combat, pleasure, to be wanton]
HERE IS PROOF THAT YOU WILL NOT ENDURE SOUND DOCTRINE:
2Timothy 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth,
and shall be turned unto fables.
FABLES TO FOOL: Fābŭla , ae, f. fari,2Timothy 4:5 But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions,
1. Most freq., a dramatic poem, drama, play (syn.: “ludus, cantus, actio, etc.): in full, fabula scaenica,” Amm. 28, 1, 4; “or, theatralis,” id. 14, 6, 20: “fabula ad actum scenarum composita,”fabulam, quae versatur in tragoediis atque carminibus non a veritate modo
FABLES TO FOOL: Cantus , ūs, m. id., I. the production of melodious sound, a musical utterance or expression, either with voice or instrument; hence, song, singing, playing,
1. With the voice, a singing, song; in full, cantus vocum, Cic. Rosc. Am. 46, 134: “fit etiam saepe vocum gravitate et cantibus ut pellantur animi, etc.,
2. With instruments, a playing, music: “citharae,” “horribili stridebat tibia cantu,” Cat. 64, 264: “querulae tibiae, “lyrae,” Plin. 34, 8, 19, § 72: “tibicine
FABLES TO FOOL: Scaenĭcus (scen- ), a, um, adj., = skēnikos, I. of or belonging to the stage, scenic, dramatic, theatrical (class.).
stage-plays, theatrical representations, “fabula,” a drama, Amm. 28, 1, 4: “organa,” Suet. Ner. 44: “coronae,” id. ib. 53: “habitus,” id. ib. 38: “gestus,” Cic. de Or. 3, 59, 220: “modulatio,” Quint. 11, 3, 57:
1. scaē-nĭcus , i, m., a player, actor, Cic. Off. 1, 31, 114: “orator plurimum aberit a scaenico 2. scaenĭca , ae, f., a female player, an actress,
THE MOST POWERFUL WEAPON TO FOOL:Orgănum , i, n., = organon,Of musical instruments, a pipe, Quint. 11, 3, 20; 9, 4, 10; Juv. 6, 3, 80; Vulg. Gen. 4, 21; id. 2 Par. 34, 12 et saep. an organ, water-organ: “organa hydraulica,” Suet. Ner. 41: aquatica, Mythogr. Lat. 3, 12.—Of a church-organ, Cass. Expos. in Psa. 150; Aug. Enarr. in Psa. 150, n. 7.— B. Transf.: organum oris, the tongue of a man, Prud. steph
do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.
Humn-eō , Ep. humneiō Hes.Op.2; Ep.3pl. II. Tell over and over again, harp upon, repeat, recite,; humnousi ; ton nomon humnein recite the form of the law, Id.Lg.871a:
We have broken this into two parts: PARTB which follows this will look at other FALSE CLAIMS related to language after the time of Paul. But Lucian as the authority ridicules people because FALSE PROPHETS could play the flute and steal the money of the "fat heads and simpletons."
The claim that PSALLO means to "make music" is totally false. The word MUSIC included singing, dancing, playing instruments, drinking wine and often sexuality as one of the acts of worship.
That the first century Christians had no problem with singing and instrumet: utterly false and ALL of the Bible and history of the church proves it BEYOND DOUBT.
That NEW TESTAMENT "music" just continued the Old Testament practice. But, no one ever "worshiped" congregationally with music.
The book of Revelation has HARPS symbolic of the idleness of DEAD VIRGINS. The message of the angel to those still LIVING was to preach the gospel.
The old PSALM 150 argument: but these instruments all HAD BREATH. Several of these instruments were not allowed in the temple court and two of them speak of vileness and prostitution.
See the picture of the NAKED WORSHIP TEAM and a picture of the Judas Bag.
NOT MENTIONED IN THE NEW TESTAMENT contradicts other statements and proves that the LAW OF SILENCE is the authority for INVENTING OR EXPERIMENTING.
The false claim that the Bible and 2,000 years of scholarship even without the churches of Christ is JUST TRADITIONALISM. This can be said because postmodernism has ALL TRUTH prior to ME as now obsolete.
The church MUST MEET the SINNERS on common ground?
See the VOODOO and slavery basis for "churchy" songs which seeks (still according to Carol Wimber of Vineyard) to MAKE THE SPIRIT COME.
See the utter FALSEHOOD about becoming all things to all people.
See that the NEW STYLE WORSHIP is stolen from the beginning time Babylon Whore and is identical to the END TIME Babylon whore. The "wandering star" is Saturn whose number is 666.
Part B for these and more falsehood. This Looks at other PROOF TEXTS for instrumental music.
Rationale for Introducing Musical Instruments into a Non- Instrumental Fellowship.
Chris Seidman and Farmer's Branch Church of Christ: The Need For This Consideration
This presentation regarding what the leadership of the Farmers Branch Church believes concerning vocal and instrumental musical expression
has been produced as a response to sincere questions posed by genuine disciples who are a part of the heritage of the Churches of Christ.
The record of correspondents show that the first IMPULSE comes from the clergy. People are questioned and THEY NEED MUSIC to keep their kids in church.
The Anderson "Prayerful Brinkmanship"
The way you use PROFESSIONAL CHANGE SYSTEMS not unlike those used in the SECULAR world or even witchcraft begins with getting the camel's foot under the tent. If they don't fire you, go to the next step. If there are any Bible students who object, pull back into the safety zone.
"Music and gymnastic (must) be preserved in their original form, and no innovation made. They must do their utmost to maintain them intact. And when anyone says that mankind must regard...
The newest song which the singers have, (Osyssey)...
they will be afraid that he may be praising, not some new songs, but a new kind of song; and this ought not to be praised, or conceived to be the meaning of the poet;
for any musical innovation is full of danger in the whole State, and ought to be prohibited.
So Damon tells me, and I can quite believe him; he says that when modes of music change, the fundamental laws of the State always change with them..."
"Then," I said, "our guardians must lay the foundations of their fortress in music?"
"Yes," I replied, 'in the form of amusement: and at first sight it always appears harmless'." (The Great Dialogs, Plato, Classic edition, p. 312)Even if there are sincere questions there can be no sincere answer which "steals church houses of widows" by the universal, even bragged about, Purpose Driven Cult to "infiltrate and divert." Sure, we BEGIN using the Anderson PRAYERFUL BRINKMANSHIP so SLICK that mature believers wake up to discover their old CHURCH has been carried away in a Judas Bag -- Which was for "carrying the mouthpieces of wind instruments."
Chris Seidman and Farmer's Branch Church of Christ: For some time now, FBCC has occasionally incorporated the use of instrumental music into its Sunday morning assemblies in the form of a solo with an instrumental track or a special event such as a musical.
This has proven to be a unique experience for anyone who has had their faith nurtured in the context of the Churches of Christ which (in regard to most Churches of Christ) have been exclusively a capella in their form of worship.
Well, we suspect that people are not so ignorant: they have all probably had the experience of performance music called "worship" and made a CONSCIOUS DECISION to place their membership AND THEIR MONEY "INVESTMENTS" in a faithful church WITHOUT MUSIC.
Honest evangelists would sign up with a church already dedicated to music and not even minimal honesty would let a Christian non-instrumentalist INFILTRATE, DIVERT AND STEAL the church of an instrumental group.
To suggest that members of the church need a UNIQUE EXPERIENCE is to suggest that people are not honoring Spurgeon's defininition of MINIMAL HONESTY.
The Heglian (Hitler, Machiavelli) method is to GRADUALLY introduce falsehood such as trying to worship a Spirit God by the sexual stimulation of music a little bit at a time. After the building is paid for is time enough to dispense with the old folks. Therefore, when you see the first instrument in a Bible class or youth group you KNOW that Lucifer is using you and you will not know what hit you until you are spiritually dead.
Yes, the STARRY HOST to whom God "turned Israel over" as PUNISHMENT for their MUSICAL IDOLATRY at Mount Sinai included Remphan, Chiun, Molech and others. The PRINCIPLE god was the S.U.N. god Shelly wants to baptize as the S.O.N. God. However, the KEY god was SATURN or Satan.
The wandering stars from Jude and the book of Enoch were the YOUTH seduced by Satan (Lucifer, ZOE) into "little by little" seducing the faithful people in the presence of the LIVING WORD down into the dark valley of the Cainites with mixed-sex choirs, instrumental music, wine (excitement) and sexual perversion just like the garden of Eden.
As the key god as a Wandering Star or planet who will seduce those for whom God will come with ten thousand of His saints SEDUCED the youth into mixed-sex choirs, instrumental music, sleezy dress and homosexuality believed to be the sin in the garden:
Nimrod was known as the god of the Chaldean Mysteries. That name, as we have seen, was Saturn. Saturn and Mystery are both Chaldean words, and they are correlative terms. As Mystery signifies the Hidden system, so Saturn signifies the Hidden god. *
* In the Litany of the Mass, the worshippers are taught thus to pray: "God Hidden, and my Saviour, have mercy upon us." (M'GAVIN'S Protestant) Whence can this invocation of the "God Hidden" have come, but from the ancient worship of Saturn, the "Hidden God"? As the Papacy has canonised the Babylonian god by the name of St. Dionysius, and St. Bacchus, the "martyr," so by this very name of "Satur" is he also enrolled in the calendar; for March 29th is the festival of "St. Satur," the martyr. (CHAMBER'S Book of Days)
The Jewish clergy (like all priesthoods) lusted that John (the priest) and Jesus were agents of Dionysus or Bacchus. Dionysus was the GOD OF THE NEW WINESKIN.
Adonis, Attis, Osiris and Dionysus are the same.
To those who were initiated the god was revealed; to all else he was hidden. Now, the name Saturn in Chaldee is pronounced Satur; but, as every Chaldee scholar knows, consists only of four letters, thus--Stur. This name contains exactly the Apocalyptic number 666:--
- S = 060
- T = 400
- U = 006
- R = 200
- -------------
- 666
Bending Wills to Peer-Selected LEADERSHIP
God sent His own RIGHT ARM because there WAS NO MAN who could judge or teach. Jesus is the ONE AND ONLY Master teacher: He is the head of the church. The ONLY persons authorized in the church as SCHOOL OF THE BIBLE are elders and deacons. Elders are not selected or elected but POINTED OUT because "they are already laboring to the point of exhaustion in preaching and teaching."
The only TEXT BOOK for songs and sermos is "that which is written." The duty of the elders as the ONLY LEADERSHIP is to "teach that which HAS BEEN taught" and rebuke those who oppose it in sermons or songs.
The belief of the LEADERSHIP has NO authority unless they can point to that which is written.
This focus on LEADERSHIP was the sin of the NICO or clergy dominating the laity.
Chris Seidman and Farmer's Branch Church of Christ: The Purpose Of This Consideration
The purpose of this presentation is to set forth what the leadership believes the Lord's will to be for the Farmers Branch Church concerning vocal and instrumental musical expression. The intent of this effort is not to test one's relationship with the Lord, or to define a belief system required for membership in this church, or to despise or judge anyone who does not agree with this position.
Acceptance is not conditioned on any particular view of music. The intent is to articulate the leadership's view so that members and especially prospective members may know the church's position on this matter.
This flexibility results from the belief that music, vocal and/or instrumental, is not a "salvation issue", and thus is not one of the core beliefs of this church.
The Lord has expressed His will and we never have to ask: WWJD? Someone is getting the LORD'S WILL by osmosis because the Lord expressed His will about musical enchanting or soothsaying beginning in Genesis and ending in Revelation 18.
There has always been a body of believers called the church of Christ and always rejected instrumental music. It is totally distorting to preach that the non-instrumental churches of Christ became a SECTARIAN GROUP about music. It is a fact that neither Baptists, Presbyterians or Methodists used instruments at the time of the Restoration. It was primarily rich post-civil war northern churches who introduced instruments and therefore became SECTARIAN. Rather than build new buildings they found it more convenient to steal the buildings of those who opposed the INNOVATION of adding mechanical devices as "the worship of men'shands."
There was no hint at trying to justify the sowing of discord from the Bible until about 1878.
The entire Bible and church history has believed that using music to silence the Words of Jesus IS A SALVATION ISSUE. Older scholars classed music "as" worship as idolatry.
The RISING UP TO PLAY at Mount Sinai caused God to give Israel the Law of Moses and sentence them to WORSHIP THE STARRY HOST. When they fired God and demanded a human king it was so that they could worship LIKE THE NATIONS.
God promised that the kings would confiscate their lands, flocks and people. The kings would make the boys blow the INSTRUMENTS OF CHARIOTS. When David was made king he did exactly what God had warned them: He as king and the COMMANDERS OF THE ARMY organized the surplus Levitical, warrior sounders of panic to prophesy at the future temple. This was not music or worship but making a great crashing sound.
Churches of Christ have the totality of the Bible and secular history which associates music with PAGANISM and perversion and NEVER with the spiritual worship of God.
All of the musical terms in the Bible are rooted in idolatry or even Satan's devices.
Farmer's Branch: Where Is The Leadership In Regard To This Subject?
The LEADERSHIP has no unique POWER or TEACHING AUTHORITY over the COMMONERS which is not based on the elders chosen to "teach that which HAS been taught and to REFUTE those who repudiate the once-delivered TRUTH."
No SENIOR PREACHER has ANY authority to even be riding the backs of the widows. The elders have no authority which is not given to them by the Word of God. All believers have the DIRECT COMMAND of Paul to TEACH ONE ANOTHER. The resources do not have to be SERMONIZED or VERSIFIED: Jesus preached the sermons and composed the "songs" and the Romans were commanded to:
Glorify God with ONE VOICE using "that which is written."
However, there is a Vineyard, Kansas City and Jubilee breed band of men who BELIEVE that they are latter day apostles or christs with MORE POWER than even Moses or Jesus. This is based on the
Historically Unique View of the Godhead as Three, Separated Beings like kith or kin or a STANDING COMMITTEE. No one in the history of the world has fallen so far from the notion of an INTERNAL TRINITARIAN nature than these people.
John Mark Hicks notes that Max Lucado and Rubel Shelly are the fathers of the god family of THREE members meaning a polytheistic god of three persons. However, God is One and the Spirit's name to Paul was Jesus of Nazareth. Since Paul demands that we SPEAK the words of Christ in place of music, the Spirit of Christ is the WORDS OF CHRIST or "that which is written." Therefore, the LEADERSHIP has no supernatural power to do more than "teach that which has been taught" and to "refute those who teach false doctrine."
By claiming to be Spirit filled, a form of psychological violence is used to convince people that they are agents of God. The fact that every proof-text is distorted and even teaches the sexual, pagan connection is proof that all leaders should stick with the Bible and perhaps send the hirelings packing since "leadership" normally means the hired staff.
We suggest that the LEADERSHIP is probably defined as the dominant pastor. We absolutely are positive that he PERVERTS every quoted passage.
Music is a TOOL to FACILITATE worship or mediating to replace Jesus.
Armageddon is not THE BATTLE OF THE WORLD; it is the battle of words. The LITTLE HILLS will attempt to LIFT THEMSELF UP above the plains to become BIG MOUNTAINS.
Chris Seidman and Farmer's Branch Church of Christ: The leadership believes that music lifted up in praise to God and His Son is an outpouring from the heart of a person filled with the Holy Spirit.
This offering can be vocal, instrumental or both together.
This conclusion is the result of much prayer and considerable study of the Scriptures on this matter.Jesus said MY WORDS are Spirit and Life. In the so-called 'singing' passages being filled with the Spirit in Ephesians 5 is to be filled with the WORDS of Christ in Colossians 3. In Romans 15 this is defined as "that which is written" or "Scripture." That is the only way to be filled with SPIRIT which is "neuter" and Paul defines it in 1 Cor 2 as THE MIND OF CHRIST.
Singing AND melody are not POURED OUT of the heart: Paul said that both must be IN the heart. Jesus defined spiritual worship as in the PLACE of the human spirit.
The command is not to OFFER something to God: praise singing is the world's oldest, most superstitious paganism known to mankind. Those totally lost and without assurance try to PAY GOD SOMETHING to keep HIM from failing them--again.
When Farmer's Branch invaded Nashville to pray for LATTER REIGN or the Latter Rain of doing what the old "christ" could not do without the help of madern day prophets,
The theme of Jubilee 99 was: "Lord, I Lift Your Name on High."in,However, God said that He would be exalted in righteousness and justice and not in the meet-your-eye-or-ear "Lord, Lords." Lynn Anderson who promotes methods which sound commercial or even neo-pagan and helps you Navigate the Winds of Change "the many" of clergy are themselves blowing like "hot air from an east wind" (Job) will set the keynote.
We fear that Lynn will be exalted on high solely because he can attract the masses which got lost during Jubilee 98. However,
The lofty looks of man shall be humbled, and the haughtiness of men shall be bowed down, and the Lord alone shall be exalted in that day. Isaiah 2:11
You cannot exalt the Name of the Lord by crying, "Lord, Lord" in song and sermon. This just insults the Incarnate God Who said:
But the Lord of hosts shall be exalted in judgment, and God that is holy shall be sanctified in righteousness. Isaiah 5:16
The way to "praise" God and "exalt" Him was clearly prescribed in the Great Commission and predicted by Christ the Spirit in the prophets (1 Peter 1:11):
Be still, and know that I am God: I will be exalted among the heathen, I will be exalted in the earth. Psalm 46:10
Only then can we clap our hands in celebration of God's victory -- not ours. The Christian demand is to preach to and convert the heathen and not try to triumph over with song and instrument.
God: Now will I rise, saith the Lord; now will I be exalted; now will I lift up myself. Isaiah 33:10
The Latter Rains: Ye shall conceive chaff, ye shall bring forth stubble: your breath, as fire, shall devour you. Isaiah 33:11
The first issue of Wineskins set the keynote for the new movement to take the name Jesus Christ (Jehovah-Saved) out and replace it with the generic name of God (which ain't a name):
"Wineskins is committed to the stimulation of bold but responsible change in the Church of God." But their commitment is
"not to the church of Christ which started on Pentecost A.D. 33. They say instead, "Our background and commitment is to the Church of Christ that was born of the American Restoration Movement."
One writer warns:
"They are "pious scavengers" who work and sleep neither day nor night as they infiltrate and take over the churches one by one. The church where you meet may already be targeted."
The concept of physical worship is to bow your head in total submission. In a spiritual sense worship means to bow to the Words of Christ which are Spirit and Life. Paul's worship word is to "give heed" to Christ through His Words. Lifting up anything is not a Christian concept. Rather,
And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. Lu.16:23
And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner. Lu.18:13
Only if you HAVE holy hands can you lift them up but please not over your head.
The mountain is the sign of "lifting up" in the oppresive religion Jesus died to remove is from the Greek:
Oros (g3735) or'-os; prob. from an obsol. oro, (to rise or "rear"; perh. akin to 142; comp. 3733); a mountain (as lifting itself above the plain): - hill, mount (-ain)
Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them; Mt.4:8
Glory means "honor, praise, worship."
Here is the way to recognize a LITTLE HILL trying to follow Satan's path:
Airo (h142) ah'ee-ro; a prim. verb; to lift; by impl. to take up or away; fig. to raise (the voice), keep in suspense (the mind); spec. to sail away (i.e. weigh anchor); by Heb. [comp. 5375] to expiate sin: - away with, bear (up), carry, lift up, loose, make to doubt, put away, remove, take (away, up).
While this may get an expert speaker a job and great glory what he is doing is POURING OUT GOD'S WRATH. Paul said that just before he INSISTED that our "singing" be PREACHING the Word of God.
Don't give way to the Devil sowing his own seed but:
Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him labour, working with his hands the thing which is good, that he may have to give to him that needeth. Eph 4:28
To the Thessalonians Paul made this a LAW for the preachers!
Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying (teaching), that it may minister grace unto the hearers. Eph 4:29
And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption. Eph 4:30
Grieving the Holy Spirit is refusing to SPEAK or TEACH that which has been taught in songs and sermons:
Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamor, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice: Eph 4:31
Therefore, preaching what LIFTS OUT of the team's own spirit grieves the Holy Spirit and if tolerated becomes GOD POURING OUT HIS WRATH on those who have no love for the truth.
Paul condemned the SONGS and SERMONS which came out of the person's OWN SPIRIT or mind as "just speaking into the air."
Therefore, all PERFORMANCE preaching or music is a SIGN of God's wrath upon those who believe that they can do a better job than Jesus Who IS the Spirit: Father, Son and Spirit have ONE NAME: Jesus, Joshua which is Jehovah- Saved.
The SPIRIT which rested on Jesus typified as a dove or "carrier pigeon" was the SEVEN SPIRITS all related to teaching KNOWLEDGE about God. My spirit does not make me twins. Spirit is MIND and Paul said that THE HOLY SPIRIT comes in the form of "My words are Spirit and Life."
All pagans BELIEVED that one could appease, threaten and even SEDUCE the gods using PRAISE MUSIC as the oldest known superstition that a priestly class HELPS the gods keep from FAILING.
History shows what common sense demands: If you meet to recite the poems of Robert Frost and DROWN it with vocal and instrumental "wailing" as Amos callled it this would be the worst of insults.
The authority is to LET JESUS DO THE TAlKING AND TEACHING THROUGH HIS INSPIRED WORD.
If you even do that and simultaneously play instruments, in the Classics and church Fathers you would be truly LOW CLASS doing something reserved for children and male and female prositutes always USED and then ABUSED.
Paul said that one pours out the WORDS OF CHRIST as Spirit and Truth. The "lifting up in praise" is one of the most ancient pagan superstitions that one can do something for God or the "audience" by playing music. However, the Bible treats music as people treating Him as a Musical Prostitute.
Jesus said: "My WORDS are SPIRIT and LIFE" (John 6:63). In Isaiah 11 the seven "spirits" which would rest upon the BRANCH were related to the knowledge of God. Therefore, no person has a PERSON to pour on others if they ignore the Words of God.
In the falsely-labelled "singing" passages the SPIRIT to be poured out is not what Paul called "madness" or Philo called Enthus O Mania where enthusiasm is not being filled with a HOLY spirit but of the charismatic ecstasy so utterly dependant on music:
Paul's Direct Command:
Psalms, Hymns, and Spiritual Songs.
These are all TYPES of the Biblical book of Psalms. So says all of early church scholarship. Self-composed hymns were condemned and then outlawed.
Paul's Furter Explanation:
Romans 15: "That which is written" as a way to GLORIFY God WITH ONE VOICE.
Ephesians 4: The Word of God or the Spirit of Christ.
Colossians 3: The Word of Christ.
Romans 15 was to repudiate the CULTURE of music in Rome. The only solution was to define CHURCH as synagogue or school of the Bible. This outlawed instruments or even music and made the INSPIRED WORD the only way to glorify God rather than the PERFORMERS.
Turn you
at my reproof: behold,
Because I have called, and ye refused; I have stretched out my hand, and no man regarded; Proverbs 1:24 But ye have set at nought all my counsel, and would none of my reproof: Proverbs 1:25 Mock means "speaking in tongues" and music is compared by Paul to speaking in tongues while the enemy is attacking you with foreign languages. When God pours out His WRATH in Ephesians 4 he "makes buffoons" out of those seeking to ASCEND or be lifted up:
Mocking was called "the song of the drunkard" just making fun of someone as they did with Jesus according to Psalm 41. When your fear cometh as desolation, and your destruction cometh as a whirlwind; when distress and anguish cometh upon you. Proverbs 1:27
For that they hated knowledge, and did not choose the fear of the Lord: Proverbs 1:29 They would none of my counsel: they despised all my reproof. Proverbs 1:30 But whoso hearkeneth unto me shall dwell safely, and shall be quiet from fear of evil. Proverbs 1:33 |
Plato in the Republic warns:"Now when a man abandons himself to music to play upon him and pour into his soul as it were through the funnel of his ears those sweet, soft, and dirge-like airs of which we were just now speaking, and gives his entire time to the warblings and blandishments of song,
the first result is that the principle of high spirit (temperament), if he had it, is softened like iron and is made useful instead of useless and brittle.
But when he continues the practice without remission and is spellbound,
the effect begins to be that he melts and liquefies till he completely dissolves away his spirit,
cuts out as it were the very sinews of his soul and makes of himself a 'feeble warrior.' "Assuredly," he said."And if," said I, "he has to begin with a spiritless nature he reaches this result quickly,
but if high-spirited, by weakening the spirit he makes it unstable.
"According to the misogynist interpretation, the form is and was conservative and kept women in their place.
Plato, the first of the anti-theatrical critics, on the other hand, thought that all imitative poetry was threatening to his ideal state and ought to be outlawed
for encouraging behavior in large part belonging to women and
therefore inappropriate to a ruler or any male citizen:
imitation leads to the reality.From Plato's perspective, theater seems to be a wild zone, a site where inappropriate actions might be represented and volatile emotions aroused. If, as Jack Winkler (1990: 50) argues,
gender was on a continuum for the Greeks, and there was a risk that the normative male could by being softened end up female, the male actor of female roles might be one site of crossover or leakage.
All of history and modern musicologists identify "praise songs" as sentimental, effeminate and erotic: trying to speak TO God rather than letting HIM do the talking.
All of musicology and medicine also knows that music produces the morphine-within called endorphins. These produce the effects of FIGHT, FLIGHT OR SEXUALITY. That is why MUSIC is an addictive DRUG HIGH and has no more spirituality than the POT some preachers brag about.
Heredotus explains how Cyrus was told how to neuter MALE captives:
Grant, then, forgiveness to the Lydians, and to make sure of their never rebelling against thee, or alarming thee more,
send and forbid them to keep any weapons of war, command them to wear tunics under their cloaks, and to put buskins upon their legs,
and make them bring up their sons to cithern-playing (Kitharizein), singing (psallein), and shop-keeping (Hucksterism). (Or translated lyre playing and harping which is redundant)
So wilt thou soon see them become women instead of men,
and there will be no more fear of their revolting from thee."This quotation disproves the MUSICAL SECTARIAN'S claim that "psallein" demanded the use of a musical instrument. In fact, in ALL cases there is NEVER an instrument indicated by the word sing or psalm unless it is specificially named:
I wonder if there was a vote taken and the present elders and those whose "terms had expired" agreed. Increasingly elders are the board of directors of the pastors who claim superior knowledge and leadership power.
This attempt at justifying instrumental music will prove that leadership is hired as theatrical performers and multiple degrees do no make one a Bible student.
There is no hint in the Bible that God wants the ancient superstition of LIFTING UP PRAISE to Him in a ritualistic way. Rather, real praise means to tell the world abut Jesus rather than diverting the praise to the musicians.
God didn't hear the prayer or He would surely have pointed out one HONEST passage which would define the LEADERSHIP'S conclusion from God knows where.
Psalm 41 prophesied that Judas was attack Jesus with music. The word "triumph over" means to play instruments and "make a joyful noise before the Lord." This WAS NOT WORSHIP but it was the universal WAR CHANT to melt the heart of the enemy as done by Gideon and his select TEAM.
Music in this prophecy was that of David the king and the COMMANDERS OF THE ARMY using music which was ALWAYS an attack upon the enemy even in the courts of animal sacrifice.
After the MUSICAL ATTACK prophesied in Psalm 41, the Dead Sea Scroll translation has Messiah saying:
- I will groan with the zither of lamentation
- in all grief-stricken mourning and bitter complaint
- until iniquity and wickedness are consumed
- and the disease-bringing scourge is no more.
An evil (Beliyyal) disease, say they, cleaveth fast unto him: and now that he lieth he shall rise up no more. Ps.41:8
Shakab (h7901) shaw-kab'; a prim. root; to lie down (for rest, sexual connection, decease or any other purpose): - * at all, cast down, ([over- ]) lay (self) (down), (make to) lie (down, down to sleep, still, with), lodge, ravish, take rest, sleep, stay.
But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter: Ge.19:4
If you are playing on CARNAL WEAPONS or LIFELESS INSTRUMENT you ARE NOT in step with the Spirit of Christ who would, after the resurrection,
- Then will I play on the zither of deliverance
- and harp of joy,
- on the tabors of prayer and the pipe of praise
- without end.
AFTER THE FINAL SACRIFICE we do not OFFER animal sacrifices and therefore do not offer INSTRUMENTAL NOISE. The "harp of God" is the human lips and the SACRIFICE we offer is that which God created for our use:
I create the fruit of the lips; Peace, peace to him that is far off, and to him that is near, saith the Lord; and I will heal him. Isa 57:19
By him therefore let us offer the sacrifice of praise to God continually, that is, the fruit of our lips, giving thanks to his name. Heb 13:15
No person who SELLS himself as THE Biblical authority can with honesty say that the Bible doesn't condemn MUSIC from beginning to end because you CANNOT give heed to the WORDS of Lord Jesus Christ and LITTLE BROTHER AND SISTER musicians at the same time. In fact, you cannot give HEED to the Words of Jesus and the same form of PULPIT PERFORMER at the same time.
INSTRUMENTAL NOISE IS STILL OFFERING ANIMAL SACRIFICES AND REPUDIATING LORD JESUS CHRIST. It even becomes beyond the worst of sexual PAGANISM because it dares allow the MUSICIANS and SINGERS into the Holy Place as a type of the Church of Christ. No Levite and no pagan priest would have done that without being PSALLOED to death with a sword. And, if the OLD BIBLE has any meaning, music is the MARK of spiritual death and being defeated by SATURN whose number is 666 and who is SATAN or ZOE--known as Lucifer the Beast and the "female instructing principle." FEMALE leadership makes the identification of an end-time Babylonian religious and hostile takeover POSITIVE.
Satan as Lucifer the MUSICAL ENCHANTER in the Garden: "Hath God really said." Satan quoted the Bible but FALSELY to try to SEDUCE Jesus exactly the way he WHOLLY SEDUCED Eve in the garden.
Chris Seidman and Farmer's Branch Church of Christ: The Leadership's Position In Light Of The Scriptures
There are numerous references in the Bible to singing with and the playing of musical instruments in worship to God.
No, that is not a fact. This paper will quote not a single passage relating to congregational singing with instruments. Children, shepherds, camp followers, magicians and prostitutes played music for fun and pleasure. The warrior Levites "under the KING and COMMANDERS OF THE ARMY served the PRIESTS as they slaughtered and burned animals IN THE COURT. The sacrificed animals were a carnal type of LORD JESUS CHRIST.
The noise makers (not musicians) were in the court and not in the Holy Place. The Holy Place even as a carnal type of the church of Christ was off limits to any singer or musician.
As prophesied in Psalm 41, the warrior musicians tipped off by Judas would MOCK Jesus as He was being prepared for the crucifixion.
Here is the almost- universal meaning of what is PERVERTED to be spiritual worship:
And they rose early in the morning, and went forth into the wilderness of Tekoa: and as they went forth, Jehoshaphat stood and said, Hear me, O Judah, and ye inhabitants of Jerusalem; Believe in the Lord your God, so shall ye be established; believe his prophets, so shall ye prosper. 2 Chron 20:20
And when he had consulted with the people, he appointed singers unto the Lord, and that should praise the beauty of holiness, as they went out before the army, and to say, Praise the Lord; for his mercy endureth for ever. 2 Chron 20: 21
Then and now music was used to panic the enemy. By the playing of instruments and singing a boast song you tried to convince the enemy to turn coward and surrender or run for their lives.
Halal (h1984) haw-lal'; a prim. root; to be clear (orig. of sound, but usually of color); to shine; hence to make a show, to boast; boast self
Heylel (h1966) hay-lale'; from 1984 (in the sense of brightness); the morning-star: - lucifer.
How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! Is.14:12
Imagine a troop led by bagpipers approaching your lines and you can get the "high" feeling which is not spiritual:
And when they began to sing and to praise, the Lord set ambushments against the children of Ammon, Moab, and mount Seir, which were come against Judah; and they were smitten. 2 Chron 20: 22
Rinnah (h7440) rin-naw'; from 7442; prop. a creaking (or shrill sound), i. e. shout (of joy or grief): - cry, gladness, joy, proclamation, rejoicing, shouting, sing (-ing), triumph.
Ranah (h7439) raw-naw'; a prim. root; to whiz: - rattle.
He mocketh at fear, and is not affrighted; neither turneth he back from the sword. Job 39:22
The quiver rattleth against him, the glittering spear and the shield. Job 39:23
Here is how the DSS defines the ambushment
[The Rule of the Trumpets: the trumpets] of alarm for all their service for the [ . . . ] for their commissioned men, 17[by tens of thousands and thousands and hundreds and fifties] and tens. Upon the t[rumpets . . . ]
[ . . . ] )8[ . . . ] 19[ . . . which ] 20 [,, . they shall write . . . the trumpets of Col. 3 the battle formations, and the trumpets for assembling them when the gates of the war are opened so that the infantry might advance, the trumpets for the signal of the slain, the trumpets of 2 the ambush, the trumpets of pursuit when the enemy is defeated, and the trumpets of reassembly when the battle returns.
On the trumpets for their campaigns they shall write,
"The mighty deeds of God to scatter the enemy and to put all those who hate justice to flight and a withdrawal of mercy from all who hate God."
But if they establish an ambush for a battle formation, the three ambushing formations shall [stay at a dist]ance and not ris[e up . . . ] '3 [ . . . ] the battle.
When they [h]ear the trumpets of alarm, the [infantry]men [shall begin to bring do]wn the guilty casualties. Then the ambush shall rise up from its place and also order its [battle form]ations [ . . . 3
14 The reassembly: from the right and left, from be[hind and before, the f]our direction[s . . . ] in the battles of annihilation
Then the priests shall blow on the six trumpets of the slain a sharp staccato note to direct the battle,
and the Levites and all the people with rams' horns shall blow a great battle alarm together in order to melt the heart of the enemy.
This is the original meaning of Melody in Greek. It is derived from "grinding into a fine powder" or the "twanging of a bow string" or the whizzing "musical" cound of an arrow just sticking into your heart. The "rattling" of the arrows in the quiver sent a "drum-like" message that you were prepared to kill the enemy.
Rinnah is similar to a word translated alarm or "triumph over"-
Ruwa (h7321) roo-ah'; a prim. root; to mar (espec. by breaking); fig. to split the ears (with sound), i. e. shout (for alarm or joy): - blow an alarm, cry (alarm, aloud, out), destroy, make a joyful noise, smart, shout (for joy), sound an alarm, triumph.
They would try this against Jesus:
Yea, mine own familiar friend, in whom I trusted, which did eat of my bread, hath lifted up his heel against me. Psa 41:9
But thou, O Lord, be merciful unto me, and raise me up, that I may requite them. Psa 41:10
By this I know that thou favourest me, because mine enemy doth not triumph over me. Psa 41:11
Therefore, God QUARANTINED the later temple rituals for the Civil-State from the people's congregation who were only represented by STATIONARY MEN or representatives. The common people NEVER sang congregationally with instrumental music.
Where are the ELDERS and DEACONS endorsing this hostile takeover. They are the Biblical PASTOR-TEACHERS and SERVING-TEACHERS of a TRUE church of Christ which has not had its CANDLES BLOWN OUT by puffer billies.
Worship in the Old Testament, like the New Testament, literally meant to fall on your face. However, prior to repudiating Israel in the book of Amos, God told them that they should SEEK Him. And David often mediates on his bed with Psalms and SEEKS the Lord in his heart.
Amos delivered God's message to Israel that they should SEEK Him through the Word: that would have been worship of Yahweh Who CANNOT be SEDUCED.
The Israelites worshiped SATURN (666) and the other Babylonian pantheon.
They LOST contact with the WORD and they all went into captivity and death.
This didn't happen through ignorance: the Babylonian Agents of Saturn deliberately used the LUST OF THE FLESH to attract the people to their temples where they were so obscene that the musicians performed right there in the TEMPLE.
Other than removing the Ark of the Covenant to the Jebusite High Place which God had given to David because David was too frightened of God to ever return to inquire of God, David was not a worship minister nor a priest.
Only when starving could David enter into the Holy Place.
It was unlawful for David the king to enter the Holy Place.
Therefore, David could not enter the TYPE of the Church.
Therefore, David would not be allowed to play his shepherd's harp IN CHURCH.
If he did, he would be fulfilling the TYPE of mocking Jesus as the once for all sacrifice of Lord Jesus Christ "outside the camp" and not in the Holy Place symbolic of SCHOOL and PRAYER and the BREAD nor in the Most Holy Place symbolic of OUR SPIRIT or mind which is the only place worship takes place.
A Jew would never simultaneously SING and PLAY. That would have been for them and for the Greeks an insult to the composer. Minstrels who both sang and played were in high demand and SOLOMON had lots of them: the word MUSICIAN and CONCUBINE comes from the same word.
Rather, as made clear in the MOVIES, David would recite (not sing) a stanza and then strum down the strings of a harp which could have as few as 3 strings. Then, he would recite the next stanza. Music as "tunefulness" belongs to the 19th century in religion.
While David lived, the Israelites did not WORSHIP in Jerusalem at the temple. However, David the KING and COMMANDERS of the army USED the warrior Levites in their plans for the temple which David did not build. God promised a FAMILY but David wanted a house to place the God he presumed to have in the Ark of the Covenant.
The musical or noise-making Levites could never go into the Holy Place as a type of the church. Their exclusion from the place of the "candlestick" or Menorah, table of bread and place of offering prayer as the incense was a type of Church.
John in Revelation has God promising to remove CANDLESTICKS from churches. The churches ARE the candlesticks in that their task is not to frazzle nerves with pagan "worship" but to make known the manifold wisdom of God.
Since the "noise making" LEVITES were excluded from the place of the CANDLESTICK they were excluded from the church of Christ.
To bring instruments into the Holy Place makes the musicians worthy of death.
The ONLY conclusion is that God HAS REMOVED the candlesticks for JEZEBEL type churches. Remember that SHE had hundreds of prophesiers where BOWING TO BAAL included GETTING UP on music and involved MAKING SELF VILE with the slave girls as David bragged about.
They "excelling" Levites were the actual SLAVE DRIVERS during the building of Solomon's temple which God allowed to be looted within five years of Solomons' death.
There is NO MUSIC WORD used in the entire Bible in connection with singing as worship. None.
THEY have suddenly surfaced questions about INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC because they are such students of the Bible.
Chris Seidman and Farmer's Branch Church of Christ: These references in Old and New Testament are attached at the conclusion of this paper, and the reader must take into consideration the context of each verse in his/her study of this issue. This particular discussion will center on the passage in Ephesians 5:18-21 (paralleled in Colossians 3:16).
This is because questions often have arisen as to whether or not instruments are to be used since seemingly none is mentioned in this passage.
No, that is not remotely the truth. The truth is that for more than ten years a band of strange men with complicity from once "christian" colleges have been DEFEATED by the instrumental group through UNITY MEETINGS. Jubilee was begun to deliberately introduce instrumental music and a broader role for women. The choice of the word JUBILEE which was in Catholicism always for the atonement. Therefore, JUBILEE repudiated the Words of Christ and therefore had no trouble lusting for MUSIC to save them from having to GO PREACH THE WORD. They could just hire professional EXECUTIVES to make a SEEKER CENTER after Willow Creek or the PURPOSE DRIVEN CULTS.
Part of the CHANGE MACHINERY is to tell you that the Bible is filled with positive comments about "singing and playing instruments as an act of worship."
The word is SPEAK in the external sense:
Psa 60:0 (To the chief Musician upon Shushaneduth, Michtam of David, to teach; when he strove with Aram-naharaim and with Aram-zobah, when Joab returned, and smote of Edom in the valley of salt twelve thousand.)
WEB Psalm LX. For the Chief Musician. To the tune of "The Lily of the Covenant." A teaching poem by David, when he fought with Aram Naharaim and with Aram Zobah, and Joab returned, and killed twelve thousand of Edom in the Valley of Salt.
LX. in finem in hymnis David [2] exaudi Deus deprecationem meam intende orationi meae [3] a finibus terrae ad te clamavi dum anxiaretur cor meum in petra exaltasti me deduxisti me
Oratio I. a speaking, speech, discourse, language In gen., the connection of words to express thought: II. In particular, formal language, artificial discourse, set speech (opp. to sermo, ordinary speech, conversational language): E. A prayer, an address to the Deity
B. Prose (opp. to poetry): “et in poëmatis et in oratione,” Poësis est perpetuum argumentum e rhythmis,SPEAK can never meant SING.
The word is used of PRAYER and SERMO meaning normal range of speech. Paul dialoged or communed but did not PREACH in the "musical performance" style.
Eph. 5:19 Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord;
Eph 5: [19]WEB [19] loquentes vobismet ipsis in psalmis et hymnis et canticis spiritalibus cantantes et psallentes in cordibus vestris Domino
SPEAKING IS THE OPPOSITE OF POETRY OR MUSIC
Loquor
I. inf. loquier, Naev. ap. Gell. 1, 24, 2), v. dep. n. and a. [Sanscr. lap-, to talk, whisper; to speak, talk, say (in the lang. of common life, in the tone of conversation; cf. Quint. 9, 4, 10; 11, 3, 45). II. Transf.
A. To speak, declare, show, indicate or express clearly:
Jesus Christ is the LogosEph. 5:19 Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord;
-Lego Count, recount, tell over, say, speak, 8. at the beginning of letters or documents, maintain as a thesis, Sophron of sound mind. having control over the sensual desires, temperate, self-controlled, chaste, reasonable comparison. , esp. in the theatre,
Opposite to epithumia
A. desire, yearning, longing after a thing, desire of or for it, Theaomai :--gaze at, behold, mostly with a sense of wonder, 3. view as spectators
Opposite perception, epagōgēs
epagōg-ē , 2. bringing in to one's aid, introductionin Logic, of discursive reasoning, OPPOSITE intuition
b. incantation, spell, in pl., Pl.R.364c, Lg.933d; Hekatēs phaskōn epagōgēn gegonenai saying that Hecate had put it under a spell, Thphr.Char.16.7.
7. leading away into captivity, captivity, LXX Is.14.17: generally, distress, misery, ib.Si.23.14
Plat. Rep. 364c any misdeed of a man or his ancestors, and that if a man wishes to harm an enemy, at slight cost he will be enabled to injure just and unjust alike, since they are masters of spells and enchantments1 that constrain the gods to serve their end. And for all these sayings they cite the poets as witnesses, with regard to the ease and plentifulness of vice, quoting:“ Evil-doing in plenty a man shall find for the seeking;
2. reason as a faculty,
V. continuous statement, narrative (whether fact or fiction), oration lego
Trut opposite myths, poems
Without Prooimion A. opening, introduction; in Music, prelude, overture, Pi.P.1.4; in poems, proëm, preamble, Pind. P. 1 Golden lyre, rightful
joint possession of Apollo [Abaddon, Apollyon]
and the violet-haired Muses, [Filthy shepherds, sorcerers Rev 18]
IN , denotes either rest or motion within or into a place or thing; opp. to ex;
Of that which is thought of as existing in the mind, memory, character
WORSHIP IS IN THE SPIRIT AS OPPOSED TO IN THE FLESH:
Heart Cor A. The heart, as the seat of feeling, emotion, etc., heart, soul, feeling (poet.):
B. Acc. to the ancients (cf. Cic. Tusc. 1, 9, 18) as the seat of wisdom, understanding, heart, mind, judgment, etc
The fact is that the Temple was granted as a LIKE THE BABYLONIAN temple because the ELDERS fired God and demanded a human king (Executive Minister). God promised that the kings would make them TITHE to the king and would make their boys into TRIUMPHAL musical teams to run before the king's chariot.
But NOT EVEN AT ITS WORST did Jerusalem or any pagan temple permit the MUSICIANS into the temple. Even in ancient Babylonia they played in the courts or in the king's part of the temple.
Paul mentioned the FIRST INSTRUMENT OF CHOICE in both psalms and the modern word, song. That instrument was in the translations at the Dead Sea the "harp of God" or the lips used by Jesus.
The LEADERSHIP should have taken the context as meaning something. They did not. Therefore, the EVIDENCE is false and therefore the conclusions are false.
The JUBILEE or NEW WINESKIN seeks to creat EXHILARATION to prove that God has been "known."
"But perhaps nothing was more characteristic of the mystery religions than what they called ecstasy. Believers in the mystery religions sought to cultivate a magical, sensuous communion with the divine. They would do almost anything to get themselves into a semiconscious, hallucinatory, hypnotic, or orgiastic spell
in which they believed they were sensually in contact with deity.
Some used wine to assist in the euphoric experience, as Paul implied in Ephesians 5:18."Whether from literal intoxication or emotional exhilaration, when worshipers fell into a state of euphoria, it was as if they had been drugged. They assumed they were in contact (knowing personally ks) with God. (MacArthur, John, Charismatic Chaos, p. 164. Zondervan)
Philo coined the word ENTHUSIASM which DOES NOT mean having Christ inside. The word is Enthus O MANIA. It is similar to the MADNESS Paul attributes to the Corinthians if they compose their own prayers and SONGS and perform them in the tongues or MINOR DIALECTS always used to sing just as the Jews saw Hebrew as their liturgical language and Catholics saw Latin as the language of song and sermon.
Rubel
Shelly: "Jesus said it
would be dangerous to try to contain the new, fermenting wine of the gospel of
the kingdom of God in the old wineskins of religious tradition." (Shelly - Harris, Second Incarnation,
p. 11).
"The tired, uninspiring event called worship in our churches must give way to an exhilarating experience of God that simultaneously exhibits and nurtures life in the worshippers." (Rubel Shelly - Randy Harris, Second Incarnation, p. 12-13) |
The Egyptians actually identified this as visual and aural orgasm. And Carol Wimber of the Vineyard - New Wineskin cult sees music as reaching a climax with God JUST BEFORE the collection plate is passed. Aldus Huxley identifies religious theatrical performance as spiritual masturbation. And so, music, theatrical performance and perverted sexuality ALWAYS went together in the Babylon influenced pagan religions.
The NEW WINESKIN was the worship of Dionysus or Bacchus. The Jews had "converted" to the old wineskin religion. This is why they tried to pervert Jesus into the Dionysus singing and dancing the choral dance of women or effeminate males:
Dionysus "fashioned for himself a train of gods and goddesses, of spirits and elves, out of the shifting panorama of the seasons, and followed the annual fluctuations of their fortunes with alternate emotions of cheerfulness and dejection, of gladness and sorrow, which found their natural expression in alternate rites of rejoicing and lamentation, of revelry and mourning.
A consideration of some of the Greek divinities who thus died and rose again from the dead may furnish us with a series of companion pictures to set side by side with the sad figures of Adonis, Attis, and Osiris. We begin with Dionysus.
The god Dionysus or Bacchus is best known to us
as a personification of the vine and of
the exhilaration produced by the juice of the grape.However, NOT EVEN THE RANKEST PAGANS would ever think about allowing the musicians into the place where they MET GOD.
Lucian could be describing the attempt of Jezebel's prophetesses when he described the priests of Cybele or Galloi or those whom Paul hoped would let the knife slip and go all the way and "emasculate" themselves. This is the meaning of Elijah's Bowing To Baal:
50 - And on set days the multitude assembles in the sanctuary, and many Galloi (emasculated) and the religious men that I spoke of perform their ceremonies; and they cut their own arms and beat one another on the back.And many stand there playing flutes and beating timbrels,
and others sing inspired and holy songs.This is done outside the temple,
and they who perform it do not come into the temple.What the WORLD lusts for is EFFEMINATE worship against which Paul warned.
There is no scholarly question about it. In fact, the speaking or cantillating ONLY THE INSPIRED Word of Christ deliberately outlawed the old pagan system which DEPENDED on instruments to steal the money.
In the definition of both psalm and song, Paul defined the FIRST INSTRUMENT OF CHOICE which was the human voice and heart.
Alexander the Oracle Monger as typical of all of the pagan Seeker Centers understood that the clergy was just trying to steal from the "worshipers" and also knew along with NIMROD that music was the most powerful weapon or instrument.
"Alexander, on the other hand, preferred his native place, urging very truly that an enterprise like theirs required congenial soil to give it a start,
in the shape of 'fat-heads' and simpletons; that was a fair description, he said, of the Paphlagonians beyond Abonutichus;
they were mostly superstitious and well-to-do; one had only to go there with someone to play the flute, the tambourine, or the cymbals, set the proverbial mantic sieve a-spinning, and there they would all be gaping as if he were a god from heaven.
Rubel Shelly helped promote this paganism by claiming that the musical performers could "lead the worshipers into the presence of God." That means that the musicians ARE the mediators.
Many musical and performance teams claim that "we are MEDIATORS between man and God."
Therefore, the universal superstition about MUSIC MEDIATING SPIRITUALITY is the BUNKO pitch of Satan, the harp-playing prostitute Lucifer in the garden of Eden, or Sophia- Zoe who forced the "minor jehovahs" into forming a musical worship team--to worship them of course. ZOE was always the BEAST and Saturn's number is 666.
The deceivers understood that the way to deceive people was to put their lies to meter and play instruments. That is also the message of the Bible.
The Apostolic Constitutions considered professional musicians to effeminate to be church members:
The ancient Christian writers detested performing any religious ritual,
especially music and drama, as a profession.
The early lectors and presenters were especially prone to secularizing and performing because they were "professional" worshippers:
"If a lector learns to play the guitar he shall also be taught to confess it.
If he does not return to it he shall suffer his penance for seven weeks. If he keeps at it he shall be excommunicated and put out of the church. (Canons of Basil, 74)
This was because "Their musical vocation made it possible for them to be more easily led astray in the area of instrumental music than for others.
"The lector may not wear a deacon's stole nor may he use a musical instrument."
According to Philo, the gods of the pagans exploit this weakness of men. For the sake of a better effect,
and with the intention of more easily cheating their devotees,
they have set their lies to melodies, rhythms and meters.
If one belonging to the theatre
(1) come, whether it be man or woman, or charioteer, or dueller, or racer, or player of prizes, or Olympic gamester, or one that plays on the pipe, on the lute, or on the harp at those games, or a dancing-master or an huckster,
(2) either let them leave off their employments, or let them be rejected. If a soldier come, let him be taught to "do no injustice, to accuse no man falsely, and to be content with his allotted wages:"
(3) if he submit to those rules, let him be received; but if he refuse them, let him be rejected. He that is guilty of sins not to be named, a sodomite, an effeminate person, a magician, an enchanter, an astrologer, a diviner, an user of magic verses, a juggler, a mountebank, one that makes amulets, a charmer, a soothsayer, a fortune-teller, an observer of palmistry; he that, when he meets you, observes defects in the eyes or feet of the birds or cats, or noises, or symbolical sounds:
let these be proved for some time, for this sort of wickedness is hard to be washed away; and if they leave off those practices, let them be received; but if they will not agree to that, let them be rejected
It is a fact that the serpent or Nachash was a Musical Enchanter or demon. And the musical idolatry at Mount Sinai was DEMON WORSHIP as Paul warned the Corinthians. Jesus said that worship was in THE SPIRIT or human mind and not in external PLACES. So say all ancient scholars:
Celsus said that it was well known that "music pertained only to the lowest gods, the demons,
and that the highest divine being had no need of melodies and sounds. And again, Philo claimed that:
One cannot truly offer thanks to God as the vast majority of men do, with external effects, consecrated gifts and sacrifices..., but rather with songs of praise and hymns -
not such as the audible voice sings, but such as are raised and re-echoed by the invisible mind. (Philo, De Plantations 126 (II 148 Cohn-Wendland)
That is why INSTRUMENTS were not allowed in the Pope's presence or for higher liturgy.
Paul in 1 Corinthians 10 (also Romans 10) warned against RISING UP TO PLAY. At Mount Sinai this was the musical worship of Satan under the Egyptian TRINITY of Osiris, Isis and Horus. Musical idolatry at Mount Sinai, therefore, was devoted to the DEMONS.
The connection between theatrical performing, musicians, drugs, rock and roll and perversion is the public personae we have understood. While this is unfair to sincere people, it ABSOLUTELY PROHIBITS allowing rhetorical, musical or theatrical performers being the PASTORS who preside over the flock.
Set up the non-instrumentalists as TRADITIONALISTS.
If you collected the world's supply of information about music and worship--and I have come close--you will find 0% of it in favor of music or instruments used in the presence of their gods or in the Holy Places typified by the church of Christ. Even that which favors instruments in worship they do not get into the CELLA or holy places. The term a cappella defines the Pope's castrated musical worship team which performed in the Sistine Chapel because IT WAS UNLAWFUL TO PLAY INSTRUMENTS IN THE POPE'S PRESENCE.
Chris Seidman and Farmer's Branch Church of Christ: This particular passage is often the most-cited by those who have held a conviction that it's against the will of God for there to be any type of instrumental accompaniment.
This includes any fair reading of the Bible, the classical writers, all of the church Fathers, the denominational founders and the total witness that INSTRUMENTS silence the Word and Spirit and tell God: "We will not listen to your words." (Job 21, Amos 5, 6, 8, Isaiah 5 and Ezekiel 33).
None of the Baptists, Methodists or Presbyterians out of which people moved into the church of Christ had used instrumental music and knew what Luther and Calvin knew: that the organ was the ensign or MARK of Baal. And so everyone understood until just now where people take pay for perverting a church.
According to David Lipscomb's research NO ONE ever used these passages and the word PSALLO to justify music in the church until A.D. 1878.
The universal practice of groups always know as the church of Christ always repudiated music.
Therefore, it is setting up DISCORD by marking out churches of Christ as basing its practice on TRADITIONALISM or ITS HERITAGE.
But in the Purpose Driven Cult, the Heglian (Hitler, Machiavelli) method is to make the people believe that THEIR old belief is JUST their opinion or their tradition as if 1850 years of Methodists, Baptists, Presbyterians and those always known as the church of Crhsit was not THE HISTORICAL FACT.
The next step is to give you a NEW WORLD ORDER which is new and improved over the old methods of the Bible.
But it is all based on dishonesty with the Bible and historical facts.
Based on the BIBLE'S definition of authority based on the command sof God and defended by ALL of the churh fathers, founders of denominations and most modern denominations not under Catholic influece agree that GOD EXERCISES AUTHORITY through Direct Commands, Examples and Inferences.
Therefore, it is disrespectful to God to DEMAND A THO SHALT NOT PLAY INSTRUMENTS. Rather, based on most rules of conveying information, the NEO-PAGANS need a direct command which says "Thou Shalt Play Instruments while Singing Twila Paris Error."
No person who RESPECTS the Words of Christ would even think about playing an instrument or USING a band or choir when Lord Jesus Christ is speaking to us through "that which has been taught."
Because the universal Biblical history of MUSIC associates it with warfare, prostitutes, killing and burning animals or telling God (at least 6 events) that "we will not listen to YOUR words" one awake and keeping their clothes with them would not even LOOK for a legalistic LOOPHOLE. That is why Jesus fired the doctors of the law.
While there are numerous passages which define the same process which included NO MUSIC, there are three (only) which relate to the assembly or "synagogue" and can be perverted to include music:
> Romans 15 defines speaking "with one voice" that which had been written as a way to hold school which would permit both musical Dionysiacs and musical Orphics to attend without discord. Adding instruments would be a direct violation of the message of Romans 15.
> Ephesians 5 commands TEACHING OR PREACHING with the inspired metrical material and the singing (secular) and melody (abrading spiritually) left in the heart. This is the ONLY place where Jesus said that God would even look for worship. He assuredly cares nothing for the "idolatry of talent" or body worship.
> Colossians 3 commands TEACHING AND ADMONISHING with the same inspired songs.
There is nothing else which can be perverted to put SINGING in the place of PREACHING to teaching ONE ANOTHER THE BIBLICAL FACTS.
Those who oppose instruments are also literate about the universal message of the Bible about "music" which was NEVER used for worship of the community.
If you want to understand the Beginning and end-time Bunko of Apollo's Seeker Center (Abaddon, Apollyon) you can read Homer and understand more about why the BIBLE repudiates music as worship.
In Rome, Apollo is equated to Saturn and we told you that Saturn's number for his name is 666.
Self-composed songs and instrumental presence in the Classical period CANNOT BE divorced from perverted drunks.
The perverted priesthood hoped that Jesus was Bacchus or Dionysus. Bacchus is the type of Molech or Saturn and Saturn's name in its original Chaldee was 666. The Jewish clergy, highly influenced by the Intertestament Greek influence which brought the GYMNASIUM and a highly musical form of worship. The proof that the gods were INSIDE in Corinth, Ephesus and elsewhere was that you sang and played or made EXTERNAL melody. This caused your body to move and as music always produced the effects of "fight, flight or sexual feelings" the charismatic outbreak PROVED to people that being FILLED WITH WINE meant that you were FILLED WITH THE SPIRIT of madness or insanity. The more sexually deviant you were the more your flesh was in contact with the realm of the spirit.
Chris Seidman and Farmer's Branch Church of Christ: The passage reads as follows: Do not get drunk on wine, which leads to debauchery. Instead, be filled with the Spirit. Speak to one another with psalms, hymns and spiritual songs. Sing and make music in your heart to the Lord, always giving thanks to God the Father for everything, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ. (NIV)
First, by saying "don't be filled with wine" Paul was directly REPUDIATING the singing of PAGAN Dionysians which always including simultaneous singing and playing with the FEELINGS stimulated by wine and sexuality. This was the drunken KOMO often performed by naked and perverted males who, in the Greek world, always PLAYED the role of both male and female. There are lots of old vases which depict the Judas Bag always attached to a flute case.
Second, to be filled with the Spirit is to be filled with the Word of Jesus Christ. Scripture always contrasts SPIRIT AND FLESH and no humans and a third "member of the god family."
It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. John 6:63
Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow. 1 Pet 1:11
And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy. Rev 19:10
Jesus validated His role as "Son" by speaking only what He heard from the "Father." Paul did the same and insisted that our TEACHING be with the Words of Christ to prove OUR sonship or faithfulness.
"That which is written" is equivalent to "the Spirit" which is equivalent to the Word of Christ in the so-called 'singing passages.'
Turn you at my reproof: behold,
- I will pour out my spirit unto you,
I will make known my words unto you. Proverbs 1:23
As the Restoration Scholars understood, the Bible and history does not treat the spirit as a GHOST. Rather, as defined by both Hebrew and Greek, spirit is the "mental disposition" of the human mind.
The bible repudiates spooks or ghosts or geists.
Third, there is no command to SING externally although they may have but we would not call it singing. The DIRECT COMMAND is to SPEAK which is the same word as PREACH. The SPIRIT resource is the SPIRIT or WORD of Christ. An early church counsel was held to outlaw human compositions which would be quite identical to composing your own Bible.
Since instruments are always condemned in church history and were not used even by the professionals practicing in organs given as gifts until maybe 600 years after Christ but clearly 1250 years after Christ, the CLAIM that the Bible taught instrumental worship is FALSE.
The singing (a secular and never a religious thing) and melody (literally grinding you into a fine powder) is clearly defined by Paul as IN YOUR HEART and is directed to God. David did this when he SPOKE TO HIMSELF even on his bed psalms and meditated in his HEART.
If Jesus hasn't commanded it then you cannot do it in the NAME of or by the authority of Lord Jesus Christ. Jesus repudiated music in several instances:
First, Psalm 41 prophesied that Judas would try to triumph or BEST or panic Jesus with a word which means "to play instruments and make a joyful noise before the Lord." This was the warriors panic music which God OUTLAWED for the assembly (synagogue) Nu. 10:7
The Judas Bag was attached to a flute case and was for "carrying the mouthpieces of wind instruments." It is seen and defined many times in the classics and ancient pottery. The Judas Bag always implicated music and homosexuality.
Second, in the Dead Sea Scrolls and inherent in the idea of mocking Jesus, they tried to panic Him with music until the end. Sexual perversion among those looking for their beloved Dionysus or Bacchus was the act of capitulation.
Third, Jesus identified the perverted clergy as children piping trying to get Jesus into the Dionysiac (referenced in Ephesians 5) singing and dancing. Since only women or perverted men sang and played instruments, this would disqualify Jesus as God.
Fourth, Jesus actually confronted a MUSICAL WORSHIP TEAM at the house of the "dead girl." Jesus "threw them out more or less violently."
Fifth, the Levitical musicians under the KING and COMMANDER of the army were not worship leaders. Click to see how they tried to fulfill the prophecy of Judas trying to defeat Jesus with music.
The mocking murder of Jesus was prophesied to be and was with music.
Look at the parallel between Ephesians and Colossians inspired by the Spirit of Christ to further repudiate MECHANICAL music which was always connected with body worship or perversion.
Do whatever you wish with the carnal body or TO the carnal body, worship is IN THE HUMAN SPIRIT or in the mind. However gloriously you SOAR ABOVE THE MOUNTAINS by charismatic, sexual stimulation, Jesus says THE FLESH COUNTS FOR NOTHING.
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Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom;
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singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord.
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giving thanks to God the Father for everything, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. (means AUTHORITY)
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And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name (authority)
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FORCING Paul to say EXTERNAL melody when he clearly spoke of INTERNAL melody is not honest.Aristotle, Rhetoric" Melody Deceives "for instance "having gone and having conversed with him," or, "having gone, I conversed with him." Also the practice of Antimachus is useful,
that of describing a thing by the qualities it does not possess; thus, in speaking of the hill Teumessus, hesays,
There is a little windswept hill;
"for in this way amplification may be carried on ad infinitum. This method may be applied to things good and bad, in whichever way it may be useful.
"Poets also make use of this in inventing words, as a melody "without strings" orâ "without the lyre"; for they employ epithets from negations, a course which is approved in proportional metaphors..
The form of diction should be neither metrical nor without rhythm.
If it is metrical, it lacks persuasiveness, for it appears artificial, and at the same time it distracts the hearer's attention, since it sets him on the watch for the recurrence of such and such a cadence..
Of the different rhythms the heroic is dignified, but lacking the harmony of ordinary conversation; the iambic is the language of the many, wherefore of all meters it is most used in common speech;
but speech should be dignified and calculated to rouse the hearer.
In the parallel in Colossians it is clear that the INTERNAL melody is GRACE which means that the external teaching one another with "that which is written" exercises a real influence FROM God upon your human heart (mind). Speaking TRUTH externally and worshiping or thinking about truth INTERNALLY answers to the demand of Jesus that worship be IN SPIRIT (human mind) and IN TRUTH or that which is written, Spirit or the Words of Christ.
Charis (g5485) khar'-ece; from 5463; graciousness (as gratifying), of manner or act (abstr. or concr.; lit., fig. or spiritual; espec. the divine influence upon the heart, and its reflection in the life; including gratitude): - acceptable, benefit, favour, gift, grace (- ious), joy liberality, pleasure, thank (-s, -worthy).
Misleading: proposing that there is ANY context, Greek or Hebrew word meaning or CONTINUITY between Law imposed because of musical idolatry and Grace where Jesus died to give us REST from the burden of "spiritual anxiety created by religious ritual."
Chris Seidman and Farmer's Branch Church of Christ: There are three areas that should be recognized and addressed concerning what this Scripture has to say: contextual emphasis; Greek and Hebrew word meanings; Old and New Testament continuity.
History universally recognizes that the SPIRIT is not a person but the Mind of Christ (1 Cor 2). The Spirit of Christ was the Spirit of the Old Testament. The Spirit which would rest upon Jesus would not be a little man but the SEVEN SPIRITS all related to the knowledge of God's Word.
"That which is written" in Romans 15, the Spirit in Ephesians 5 and the Word of Christ in Colossians are all the Spirit Words of Christ. We claim that CONTEXT was not even remotely considered when the writer constructed his CREED OF INSTRUMENTAL AUTHORITY.
Scholars have ALWAYS noted that all of the words related to MUSIC or to MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS are derived from very destructive root: some even Satanic, defiling, perverting, prostituting.
This has caused Biblical morons to suggest that God got the whole music idea from Satan when HE discovered how powerful music was in Satan's stealing His worshiprs.
Misstating Paul's statement of fact.
Paul clearly commanded (1) SPEAK to one another (or PREACH) and (2) sing and make melody IN THE HEART. Because singing among the Greeks was purely a SECULAR activity and EXTERNAL MELODY spoke more of attacking someone than music, both the singing and the melody are INTERNAL while the SPEAKING is external.
Chris Seidman and Farmer's Branch Church of Christ: Context
The immediate as well as the broader context of these verses is very instructive. In the passage Paul identifies three characteristics of a Spirit-filled person:
singing to one another and to the Lord;
This is kinda like quoting Shakesphere and believing that the Bible says it. Paul said NOTHING about singing to one another! Nothing.
Paul used the same word SPEAK that the preacher abrogates to himself. The word is SPEAK OR PREACH one to anothe, the resource is "that which is written." The RESULT is that there is singing and melody IN THE HEART and it is directed to God.
SPEAKING the "seven spirits of Divine Knowledge" is typified by the Menorah in the Holy Place. No musician was allowed in the Holy Place and that is why the Apostolic Constitutions says "throw the performers out." Jesus said that WORSHIP takes place in the Most Holy Place which is our human spirit as it sings and makes melody in the human spirit.
You learn ABSOLUTELY NOTHING BY HEARING IT. This is why filling the pulpits with lecturers guarantees that you have chosen the LEAST EFFECTIVE way of teaching. Only when we recycle the teaching in our mind and "meditate on it" or "make melody" by cutting it into bits does the information impress itself upon our minds so that we can REMEMBER the message when we get to the steak house an hour later.
Because no time is allowed in sermonizing and singing, there IS NO LEARNING taking place. Besides, there was no modern form of singing or melody or harmony at the time which was defined as TUNEFUL (Britannica) it is teaching error to translate our practices back into the text of the Word of God.
The Holy Spirit is to us the Mind of Christ according to Paul in 1 Cor. 2. Peter said that the prophets spoke by THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST (1 Peter 1:11) and John said that the Testimony of Jesus is the Spirit of prophecy (Re 19:10). Isaiah 11:1-4 prophesied the seven spirits of Christ which are all related to supernatural KNOWLEDGE. And we noted that Jesus said "My WORDS are Spirit and Life."
Therefore, to be FILLED WITH THE SPIRIT is to be filled with the Mind of Christ which is revealed to us through the WORDS of Christ. Romans 15 says to Glorify God WITH ONE VOICE and use "that which is written."
The "deacons" were to be "filled with the Spirit" and Paul said that this meant "holding the mysteries of the faith with a pure conscience."
Therefore, don't exect a LITTLE PERSON to be with you to make your body move. Jesus said "I" will be with you.
Paul ACTUALLY said SPEAK or PREACH to one another. Then the worship which Jesus limited to IN THE HUMAN SPIRIT would be the internal singing to replace the Greek singing which was ALWAYS SECULAR. The melody was to be INTERNAL because melody or psallo is what you do when you TWANG a bowstring to send a SINGING arrow to grind the enemy's heart into a fine powder. Jesus did that with a related word meanint SOP.
The seven candlesticks or the Menorah represented spiritual LIGHT to the Holy Place which was fulfilled in the church of Christ.
The seven BRANCHES are the seven spirits OF god. These are not seven little men bouncing around in your body as the result of music: that is sexual seduction for some but creating FLIGHT or FIGHT among others.
NO MUSICIAN OR SINGERS were ever allowed in the Holy Place which was where the CANDLESTICK or Menorah was protected from the NOISE of animal sacrifices.
All of these SEVEN spirits have to do with the fact that JESUS HIMSELF said: "MY Words ARE Spirit and they are Life."
AND there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots: Isa 11:1
And the spirit of the Lord shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the Lord; Isa 11: 2
And shall make him of quick understanding in the fear of the Lord:
and he shall not judge after the sight of his eyes,
neither reprove after the hearing of his ears: Isa 11: 3
But with righteousness shall he judge the poor, and reprove with equity for the meek of the earth:
and he shall smite the earth with the rod of his mouth,
and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked. Isa 11: 4
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Jesus validated his role as SON by insisting that having the Spirit without measure meant that He would speak ONLY what HE heard from the Father Whom He had "with Him."
Since the church is SYNAGOGUE or school of the Bible, Paul told them to glorify God by teaching HIS words. Therefore, the clear direct command is to TEACH. That means to speak the Word or to PREACH.
There is no MUSIC word used in the entire Bible related to the Spiritual worship of God. On the other hand, the MUSIC word universally tells God: "We will not listen to your Word." Teaching was the direct command and you cannot do that and RISE UP TO PLAY in what was always know as MUSICAL IDOLATRY.
Jesus said that the Father DOES NOT EVEN SEEK worship except IN THE SPIRIT. The human spirit is the PLACE of worship opposed to the place of the temple. The human SPIRIT must be devoted to THE TRUTH or it is not worship. YOU cannot facilitate anything but pagan worship for someone else.
Paul said SING to the Lord!
Therefore, to be CHRISTIAN worship, the singing is IN THE HEART and is the RESULT of glorifying God with one voice (Rom 15). Singing is the effect but NOT the act.
Farmer's Branch: giving thanks to God in Jesus' name; being submissive to one another.
You cannot do it IN JESUS'S name unless you have a command from Jesus: all scholars from the beginning insist that church is related to the DIRECT COMMANDS of God. No, churches of Christ did not invent that doctrine. You cannot be submissive if you get up in the Holy Place or church and overpower others with YOUR talent when they would like to DO THEIR OWN WORSHIP.
Defining preachers as LEADERSHIP is the grandest of presumptious RULING OVER the one another flock.
Using the MUSIC word adds something which is not ONCE used by the Old or New Testament related to Spiritual worship.
Music was always a PAGAN practice. The Greek had a word for MUSIC but Paul didn't use it. The word is SUMPHONIA which includes SINGING and INSTRUMENTS and usually includes dancing and drinking wine.
Therefore, the Spirit of Christ is BELITTLED when we assume that He was not smart enough to use SUMPHONIA which is clearly what people LUST FOR in their new WINESKIN worship. Why did he use PSALLO which at that time did not included instruments. In all periods psallo included the HUMAN VOICE as the first instrument of choice. To keep our LEADERSHIP from going beyond redemption Paul emphasized MAKE MELODY IN THE HEART.
Chris Seidman and Farmer's Branch Church of Christ: Within this framework the music which genuinely speaks to the believer and expresses praise to the Lord is that which issues from a heart filled with the Spirit.
There is absolutely nothing which SPEAKS TO THE BELIEVER which can be used to VALIDATE one's own new revelation. What SPEAKS to the believer is "that which is written, the Spirit or the Words of Christ." If you speak anything else
To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them. Is.8:20
And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy. Rev 19:10
The church is not to OBEY the Law but the task of the church is to TEACH the Old Testament. Without that we have no foundation to even believe that there is a God Who was prophecied.
Praise is not saying: "Lord, Lord" or "Yah, Yah" or "Hallelujah, Hallelujah" because that will be the MARK that God doesn't even know your name. Praise is telling the world the story of God's mighty deeds by using "that which is written" without "private interpretation" or "further expounding."
Pulpit and musical performance is SOARING up into the mountains or lifting SELF UP. If they had any remote interest in lifting up Jesus they would speak His sermons and sing His songs.
Musical instruments were compared to Paul with SPEAKING IN TONGUES because instruments HAVE NO BREATH and cannot praise God. If instruments artificially PUMP YOU UP to make you believe that it is Jesus you are praising, then when the music dies the praise is gone.
Paul called musical instruments "lifeless instruments" or "carnal weapons." We don't do battle with supernatural powers by using a SOULLESS machine often made of animals "which died of themselves" and had to be abraded or PSALLOED into bits to make instruments or FAMILIAR SPIRITS out of old wineskins.
The ONLY thing which can issue from a heart filled with the SPIRIT is the Word of the Spirit. And the only way to Glorify God is to speak HIS words because "your thoughts are not His thoughts."
For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning,
Produces grace in the heart: that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope. Rom 15:4
Now the God of patience and consolation grant you to be likeminded one toward another according to Christ Jesus: Rom 15:5
That ye may with one mind (spirit, heart) and one mouth
glorify God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. Rom 15:6
As "son" Jesus spoke only what He heard from the "father." If we do not speak what we have heard from the SON then we ARE NOT SONS of God. We are simply praising ourselves because all idolatry is the worship of self.
Paul identified music as "speaking in tongues." Everyone has always know that music and drama are one or two steps removed from the truth. Paul said SPEAK to ONE ANOTHER using Psalms, Hymns and Spiritual songs which the Septuagint identifies as forms of the BOOK of Psalms. The command SPEAK is the same as PREACH. Music CANNOT SPEAK.
What the LEADERSHIP is speaking of is the SEXUAL STIMULATION created by music calculated to vibrate ever nerve ending in the body. SPEAKING is addressed to the Ears and Heart: music is addressed to the sexual nerve endings.
This form of SENSUAL STIMULATION is NOT Christian but Anti-Christian.
God never commanded PRAISE SINGING. This was one of the oldest superstitions that you could feed, clothe, house, sexually stimulate or appeas the 'gods' in order for YOU to get GOODIES from the gods.
See the PRAISE LEADER from the Core of Babylon.
Of singing or "speaking to one another":
"In English, unfortunately, the distinction is not sharp, and the word singing is frequently employed to refer to the sacred activity of chanting.
A Greek would never, never say tragoudo (I sing),
-----instead of psallo; the two terms have connotations and
-----associations which are worlds apart --the first is related to the earthly realm,
----- the second to the heavenly." (Letter to James D. Bales of Harding University, September 22, 1959, from Constantine Cavarnos, of the Institute for Byzantine and Modern Greek Studies.)CONEYBEARE AND HOWSON
"Ephesians 5:19 enjoins:
(1) Speaking TO ONE ANOTHER in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs;
----- (2) singing (adontes) and making melody (psallontes, psalming)
----- with your heart TO THE LORD.One is done with voice and lips,
----- the other with the heart.God's plan is that GOD speak to the worshipers NOT with music but with HIS WORDS. There is no SPIRIT or truth or WORD OF CHRIST which does not condemn music: therefore, you cannot DO Instrumental music and still be FILLED WITH THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST.
Music has been called "low level glossolalia" or speaking in tongues. You have to translate many of the human hymns which in the beginning of the Restoration Movement were called IDOLS. They are IDOLS because they replace the WORDS OF JESUS as Spirit and Life. Musicians are IDOLS because it is impossible to GIVE HEED to God while giving heed to musical performance.
There is no PRAISE SINGING in the church as there WAS NO PRAISE SINGING in Temple or Synagogue. See Edersheim for the Temple
The PRAISE word often used in Jewish lostness IS THE HEBREW:
Halal (h1984) haw-lal'; a prim. root; to be clear (orig. of sound, but usually of color); to shine; hence to make a show, to boast; and thus to be (clamorously) foolish; to rave; causat. to celebrate; also to stultify: - (make) boast (self), celebrate, commend, (deal, make), fool (- ish, -ly), glory, give [light], be (make, feign self) mad (against), give in marriage, [sing, be worthy of] praise, rage, renowned, shine.
The word LUCIFER (Modern ZOE) HAS THE SAME MEANING. And Lucifer or the Nachash was the musical enchanter in the garden of Eden.
A similar Hebrew word can be translated as "play the flute, pollute or prostitute."
First: The Israelites had been sentenced to WORSHIP THE STARRY HOST because of their musical idolatry at Mount Sinai. Because they did not repent but demanded a king so that they could rule and WORSHIP like the nations or pagan Goyim, God abandoned them. Therefore, David was often trying to AWAKEN God.
"The triumphal hymn of Moses had unquestionably a religious character about it; but the employment of music in religious services, though idolatrous, is more distinctly marked in the festivities which attended the erection of the golden calf." (Smith's Bible Dictionary, Music, p. 589).
Second: David's naked RISING UP TO PLAY in moving the ark had him agreeing that he would be held in honor by the SLAVE GIRLS who often did the naked music. He said that he would make himself EVEN MORE VILE. If you take DAVID as your musical mediator you had better strip off your clothes and do the choral dance which was called "bowing the knee to Baal" because Baal would be worshiped more in Jerusalem than Jehovah.
Third, PRAISE SINGING is one of the most ancient pagan superstitions that you can AID THE GODS to keep them from failing. Praise singing has the towers of Babylon as its mother.
Fourth, There is no clue in the Bible that Jesus wants artificial PRAISE SINGING RITUALS: in fact, his warning against "Lord, Lord" sayers as "prophesiers" directly repudiate musical singers trying to flatter or SEDUCE Him as they did in all paganism.
Fifth, there was no PRAISE SERVICE IN THE SYNAGOGUE.
Sixth, there was no PRAISE SERVICE in the early historical church. They obeyed Paul and spoke the INSPIRED POETRY which were God's Songs.
Seventh, when MUSICAL PRECENTORS were added to the Catholic church this is identified as "the first heresy largely pervading the church."
The Catholic church models both its priesthood and its clergy singers after the LEVITICAL order.
The HUMAN HEART is NOT the SOURCE of inspiration.
Paul asked the people singing or preaching out of their "own spirit" whether truth originated with them. It did not. If they needed further instructions then Paul would write them.
The earthen vessel is God's storage place for HIS WORDS so that they can last for thousands of years. If we pour out anything other than "that which is written, the Spirit or the Word of Christ" we are just pouring out old stump water.
Chris Seidman and Farmer's Branch Church of Christ: Put another way, the musical expression is an outpouring of the human vessel from the Spiritual content contained within.
God put the Word of God in earthen vessels to protect it. For instance, a copy of Isaiah from before the time of Christ was put into an earthen vessel and discovered in about 1945 in the Dead Sea Caves. This discovery proved that our texts were faithful copies. The copiest made a new copy and counted letters forward and backward. Therefore, the FAITHFUL SCRIPE as the faith PREACHER will not knowingly rewrite the Bible.
Nor, will any sane person believe or teach that he or she is a latter day apostle and that God speaks to them. You need to watch your back when around these people. By putting deeds to property into earthen vessels
Thus saith the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel; Take these evidences, this evidence of the purchase, both which is sealed, and this evidence which is open; and put them in an earthen vessel, that they may continue many days. Je.32:14
For thus saith the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel; Houses and fields and vineyards shall be possessed again in this land. Jeremiah 32:15
By definition, a Christian is a disciple of the WORDS of Christ. If burried them 2 thousand years ago and we dug them up then we could become a Christian without a preacher.
If we were taken to another planet and the earth left uninhabited for ten housand years, and some of us came back, we could open the earthen vessels which is about all that would survive and practice the Christian religion. If pseudo-preachers propose to rewrite the Scripture to invalidate 2,000 of testimony about "music" as idolatry then he is not working for the Holy Spirit.
Sometimes the best place for God to HIDE His words, as in the parables of Jesus, is to leave them in plain sight:
But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: 2 Cor 4:3
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. 2 Cor 4:4
Hear, ye deaf; and look, ye blind, that ye may see. Isaiah 42:18
Who is blind, but my servant? or deaf, as my messenger that I sent? who is blind as he that is perfect, and blind as the Lords servant? Isaiah 42:19
Who in all the world is as blind as my own people,
who are designed to be my messengers of truth? Who is so blind as my "dedicated one," the "servant of the Lord"? Isaiah 42:19LIV
Seeing many things, but thou observest not; opening the ears, but he heareth not. Isaiah 42:20
The Lord is well pleased for his righteousness sake;
he will magnify the law, and make it honourable. Isaiah 42:21
The way to DEFEAT Jesus Christ is to presumptiously present the preacher's OWN views. The burden Jesus died to remove was "spiritual anxiety created by religious ritual." And we saw that the WRATH of God is revealed when the WORD of God is perverted:
Airo (h142) ah'ee-ro; a prim. verb; to lift; by impl. to take up or away; fig. to raise (the voice), keep in suspense (the mind); spec. to sail away (i.e. weigh anchor); by Heb. [comp. 5375] to expiate sin: - away with, bear (up), carry, lift up, loose, make to doubt, put away, remove, take (away, up).
Therefore, Paul insisted that:
For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus sake. 2 Cor 4:5
Paul NEVER called himself the LEADERSHIP or Senior Preacher or Executive Minister: how arrogant!
For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts,
to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ. 2 Cor 4:6
But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us. 2 Cor 4:7
An earthen vessel is the word OSTRAKINOS which is the source of ostracon. These were the old broken pottery upon which some of Scripture was recorded.
If it COMES OUT OF THE HUMAN SPIRIT, ACCORDING TO PAUL, IT IS JUST SPEAKING INTO THE AIR.
Aarrgh! It just doesn't matter!
Chris Seidman and Farmer's Branch Church of Christ: Consequently, the presence (or absence) of a musical instrument is not primary, but the expression of a Spirit-activated heart is.
Paul took the preaching out of the hands of the professional and made it a "one another" activity. By obeying the direct commands of Jesus we can TEACH that which is written. But, assume that the preacher is delivering his little fill in the blanks thingy. Suddenly, the Bible Lovers jump up, strike up the band and ENTUSE or go charismatic all over the "theater for holy entertainment." The PRAISE LEADERS would say (will soon say), your preaching IS NOT PRIMARY. Surely you can preach while we ENTHUSE or EXHILARATE the crowd.
What if Jesus Christ is the ONLY TEACHER teaching through His Words? Are they primary or can a Rock Band do their voodoo while HE is teaching. Absolutely the preacher would say that it is just a matter of "mental attitude."
Paul's direct command was to TEACH OR PREACH: that eleminates instruments.
The SPIRIT was "that which was written" or "the words of Christ" because the prophetic writers were moved by THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST (1 Pet. 1:11_
Instruments among the classics always said: male or female prostitute. "Singer" or "player" always said "prostitute" right there in the temple.
The beginning time and the end time Babylon Harlot religion will look like this:
"Each of the important deities had, in one or more of the Babylonian cities, a large temple in which he or she was worshiped.
Temple services were generally conducted in open courts containing fountains for ablution and altars for sacrifices.
Only the high priest and other privileged members of the clergy and court were permitted to enter the cella, or inner part of the temple,
which held the special statue of the deity. The needs of the deity were provided for in accordance with impressive ceremonies carried out by a vast institutionalized clergy that included
priests, musicians, magicians, soothsayers, dream interpreters, astrologers, and hierodules (temple slaves or prostitutes). Sacrifices of food, drink, or incense were offered daily. Numerous festivals were held, the most important of which was the celebration of the new year at the spring equinox. Encarta Encyclopedia
But why is the end time Babylon Harlot worship worse than the vilest of pagan temples by allowing the musicians and singers into the Holy Place or Chrurch. I'd pack my bags.
Instruments were so connected with warefare or perverted pagan religion that the word PSALLO was discontinued as an expression of internal melody.
Instruments in the Holy Place as the carnal type of the church of Christ would have gotten a Levitical sounders whos "service" is related to the word ABADDON killed.
Instruments among the Babylon Harlot worship in Revelation get RETURNED would go back into hell and were associated with the SORCERIES by which the NATIONS were deceived.
Instruments were called by Luther the MARK of Baal. Saturn as Lord has the number 666.
Well, that is what has always SOWED DISCORD AMONG BRETHEREN and offended thousands of these little ones, isn't it. Seems like the debate is OVER.
The WORDS of Christ according to John 6:63 and Paul three places is the SOURCE of the Spirit.
MUSIC is considered EVIL throughout the Bible because it is the INSTRUMENT used by the false Doctors of the Law to 'TAKE AWAY THE KEY TO KNOWLEDGE.' The preachers must know that you CANNOT give heed to the WORDS OF CHRIST and the PERFORMERS at the same time.
Therefore the appeal for instrumental noise is to take away the key to knowledge so that the FLOCK can be fed to the lions.
The only WORSHIP WORD Paul saw as important was to GIVE HEED to Christ by GIVING HEED to His Words. If an instrument is present it is attached to a talented performer. This makes instrumental performance the MOST WORKS INTENSIVE ACTIVITY you could do in trying to earn God's approval.
Therefore, the only ACTIVATOR is the musical performer and he/she is being USED to attract NUMBERS and there is no call to claim that it is an "expression of a Spirit-activated heart." It is not, it cannot be.
Satan (Lucifer, ZOE) who was a musical enchanter who WHOLLY seduced Eve asked the fatal question: "Hath God said"? Yes, God has said over and over that MUSIC tells God to get lost, or we will not listen to YOUR Words as SPIRIT and LIFE. Of the king of Tyre as a model of Lucifer:
Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created. Eze.28:13
She is ZOE among the professional musician's effort to DEFEAT the church.
But, Paul wasn't even speaking about CHURCH.
The old Christian church argument is that "you don't have a command for assembly" and "we don't have a command for instruments" so we are both equally ok.
However, to argue that Paul is not defining the collective assembly in the three primary "singing" passages is to risk one's credibility.
Chris Seidman and Farmer's Branch Church of Christ: As a further observation, the setting (i. e., an assembly or 'worship service') is not a factor governing the means by which music is rendered. With respect to the broader context of this section of Ephesians, Paul is clearly discussing our Christian walk and our relationships with one another. An assembly is irrelevant.
These matters including music are appropriate in all settings.
Contextually, there is no differentiation in the unassembled and assembled church-
Jesus said to make DISCIPLES and teach them what HE commanded to be taught. Christians are disciples and attend Bible Class. Paul's ONLY worship concepts meant to give attention to Reading the Word of God.
There is no such thing as an unassembled church. "Churching" or "synagoguing" does not speak of a building with a resident rabbi or doctor of the law. Paul clearly speaks of the ASSEMBLED church for TEACHING one another. If you TEACH a Bible class in a local restaurant there still is no rule of SANITY which would allow you to play the guitar while Jesus Christ is teaching through His Word.
Therefore, the preacher is using his assumptions as proof text. However, it would be inappropriate to play instruments when two or three are gathered together because the SYNAGOGUE function is to GIVE HEED to the Words of Christ.
Therefore, there is no authority for the teens to "worship" in a separate wing of the church with instruments just because their little brains have been PERMANENTLY DAMAGED by music all week long.
With no authority to play music in any TEACHING assembly, there assuredly is no authority to USE music and musicians to stimulate sexual ecstasy on the official meeting on Sunday Morning.
The Old Testament is absolute: if you use music you are telling God to go away, we will NOT listen to your words. That needs no proving in the modern pseudo-church struggling to be a Tower of Babylon.
What the preachers don't know is that the word ecclesia speaks of an assembly. However, sunago or another form of the word for synagogue speaks of the people WHO GATHER or ASSEMBLE as the church.
When you are assembled in the name of our Lord Jesus and I am with you in spirit, and the power of our Lord Jesus is present, 1 Cor 5:4
Sunago (g4863) soon-ag'-o; from 4862 and 71; to lead together, i.e. collect or convene; spec. to entertain (hospitably): - / accompany, assemble (selves, together), bestow, come together, gather (selves together, up, together), lead into, resort, take in.
So when they were dismissed, they came to Antioch: and when they had gathered the multitude together, they delivered the epistle: Ac.15:30
God outlawed the "instruments and making a joyful noise before the Lord" when the people GATHERED or assembled. The only occasion for the entire "congregation" to assemble was for INSTRUCTIONS. Therefore, Numbers 10:7 says "don't do it."
And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight. Ac.20:7
Sunerchomai (g4905) soon-er'-khom-ahee; from 4862 and 2064; to convene, depart in company with, associate with, or (spec.) cohabit (conjugally): - accompany, assemble (with), come (together), come (company, go) with, resort.
Now in this that I declare unto you I praise you not, that ye come together not for the better, but for the worse. 1Co.11:17
When people assemble Paul uses a form of the word SYNAGOGUE. The only place people engaged in corporate teaching of one another was primarily in the church assembly as a SCHOOL OF THE BIBLE.
However, there are numerous parallels to Ephesians 5 where, for instance, Paul spoke of discord in Romans 14 and told them how everyone could meet together peaceably if the "spoke with one voice that which is written."
It was unthinkable that CHRISTIANS would engage in the singing and playing instruments of the theater or "out of church" meetings. Therefore, he could never approve both which were JOBS for the male and female prostitutes "in church." See Clement of Alexandria speaking for ALL literate scholars.
Only the LATTER DAY 13th APOSTLES HAVE DECIDED "IT JUST DON'T MATTER." This gives THEM the authority to use ABSOLUTELY ZERO AUTHORITY to overpower the 100% authority associating singers and instrument players in a religious sense as pagan, idolatrous prostitutes.
What's ok OUTSIDE is ok INSIDE
Chris Seidman and Farmer's Branch Church of Christ: what is musically appropriate for the disciple unassembled is appropriate for the disciples assembled.
Sexuality and music were toni twins in all pagan worship rituals. Sexuality is appropriate at home but not assembled.
Music was appropriate OUTSIDE the type of the church during animal sacrifices;
music was inappropriate in the Holy Place or type of church.
Music was appropriate when creating panic in the enemy seen as Beliar;
music was inappropriate when the same LEVITICAL MUSICIANS turned their instruments upon Jesus.
Music is ok for those not already brain damaged during the day.
Music is not ok when I am trying to sleep.
If the purpose of unassembled music is to entertain one another it doesn't matter. However, Paul instructed the churches to synagogue or assemble to TEACH ONE ANOTHER. Music in the home is appropriate but music while Jesus is our ONE AND ONLY Teacher is not appropriate.
See How Clement of Alexandria limits music even OUTSIDE church:
They who sing thus, and sing in response, are those who before hymned immortality, -- found at last wicked and wickedly singing this most pernicious palinode, 'Let us eat and drink, for tommorrow we die.' But not tommorrow in truth, but already, are these dead to God; burrying their dead, that is, sinking themselves down to death.
The appostle firmly assails them: 'Be not deceived; neither adulterers,nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor railers... shall inherit the kingdom of God." (Clement, Instructor III.Xi.80,4, The Ante-Nicene Fathers, p. 290)
Look at all of the evidence: the only support you will find is that of the perverted pagans.
Paul clearly speaks of teaching one another with the TRUTH OF CHRIST whether it is two or two thousand. Paul lays the foundation. Remember that Ephesians 5:19 has a CONTEXT:
If so be that ye have heard him, and have been taught by him, as the truth is in Jesus: Eph 4:21
And we have the TRUTH taught by CHRIST that SPIRIT in these contexts is not a little man but the WORDS of Christ the Son which He heard from the FATHER;
It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. John 6:63
The context of Ephesus is the Dionysic worship also considered in Romans 15 where wine and music went together:
That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts; Eph 4:22
Lust is the CARNAL lust for "that which is forbidden." One seems superior like the musician Satan if they can prove to the watching world that THEIR songs and sermons are supperior to Christ's songs and sermons.
The old LUSTS of pagan worship in Ephesus was wine, women, song and musical instruments. The instruments brought on "prophesying" which the performers SOLD as the gods speaking through their tongues.
And be renewed in the spirit of your mind; Eph 4:23
And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness. Eph 4:24
Jesus said that "worship" is only in the spirit or human mind devoted to the Word as the Spirit of Truth. You cannot RENEW your mind or spirit while playing music which ONLY produces the impulses of "fight, flight or sexuality" and the preachers KNOW it.
Paul is speaking of the church as members one of another and not a church Hee Haw! The charismatic oracle spoke gibberish, the interpreter wrote a hymn and the priest answered questions. Therefore, all of the Ephesian pagans used music to dissociate the minds from their money. Their musical prophesying was LYING just as Jesus defined the Devil as a liar because "he speaks on his own." Just makes up songs and sermons.
Wherefore putting away lying, speak every man truth with his neighbour: for we are members one of another. Ep.4:25
Jesus added baptized believers to the kingdom or body of Christ. The church consists of members of that one body. Therefore, Paul is speaking of the assembly. He outlaws machines for this assembly. Therefore, the LEADERSHIP is flat wrong and IT DOES MATTER or Jesus would not have "tossed out 'more or less violently' the musical worship or mourning team."
It DOES matter or Psalm 41 would not have prophesied that the clergy would ATTACH Jesus and silence His Word musically.
Fool the Fools with SCHOLARSHIP.
David Lipscomb said that prior to AD 1878 NO ONE had used the word PSALLO to defend the use of instruments as the works of human hands.
Not even Greeks who could have and might have known John ever thought of Paul as authorizing instrumental or any kind of music as spiritual worship. In fact, music was always associated with training men for warfare after which only the effeminate occupied themselves with playing instruments.
Farmer's Branch Church of Christ: Greek And Hebrew Word Meanings
Chris Seidman and The second area of interest centers on the meaning and usage of the Greek words for make music and psalms. In order to avoid a lengthy discussion with considerable linguistic jargon and technical terminology only a few summary statements are offered.
> The word "make music" is exclusively applied to the secular parties with wine, dancing, singing and playing instruments.
And "musician" is exclusively applied to the MUSES or the 9 Sister Singers wo worked for Apollo who is Abaddon or Apollyon or Lucifer or Zoe or Satan. Apollo had his SEEKER CENTER at Delphi and he is the father of "musical harmony, twanging bowstrings to send a singing arrow into your heart, thieves and liars.
> If you are going to repudiate the Bible and 2,000 years of scholarship you had better be prepared with some proof. If you are willing to DELIBERATELY SOW DISCORD AMONG BRETHEREN AND OFFEND MANY then you had better be able to flash credentials from someone beyond a "christian" college:
Chris Seidman and The Greek words translated make music and psalms, "psallo" and "psalmos", respectively, had in secular Greek the meanings to pluck, pull, twitch; then to play a stringed instrument (psallo); and twitching or twanging, the sound of a harp (psalmos).
Lexicons do not DEFINE words: they show how the word is used. "Plucking the lyre" examples--collected by Tom Burgess--speak of men plucking the harp to seduce a young male.
The literature ALWAYS uses compound word to define playing a harp.
Psaō [a_, but always contracted], II. crumble away, vanish, disappear, S.Tr.678 (s. v. l.). (psaō, psaiō, psauō, psairō, psēkhō, psōkhō,
Psaiō , A. = psaō (q. v.), rub away, grind down
Psal-ma , atos, to, A. tune played on a stringed instrument,
Paul commanded that we SPEAK psalms: if he wanted us to SING psalms he was pretty literate:
Psal-mizō , A. sing psalms, and psal-mistēs , ou, ho, psalmist
Psalmokha^rēs , es, A. delighting in harp-playing, of Apollo,
Psalmōd-ia , A. singing to the harp,
Psalmōd-os , ho, A. psalmist, LXX Si.47.9 cod.Sin., 50.18.
A. Psalmoi toxôn does not mean "sing and play a harp" WITH a bow. Psalmoi just means pluck or twang a bow.
-Toxon Bow implicates galliambus , i, m. [3. Gallus, II. A.] , I.a song of the priests of Cybele,
III. metaph., toxa hēliou its rays, E.HF 1090; ampelinois toxois damentes, of the effects of wine, Pi.Fr.218; “toxon merimnēs”
kottabos . . hon skopon es latagōn toxa kathistametha for shooting of liquor from the cup
B. toxêrei psalmôi [toxeusas] Id.HF1064 (lyr.).
Toxeuo A.shoot with the bow,t inosat a mark
[Furnished with the Bow] + [Twitching with the fingers] + [Shoot with the bow or metaphor Send forth a hymn]2. Metaphor, “Erōs etoxeus' auton” E.Tr.255; “hē turannis pantothen toxeuetai” is aimed at,, [255] The dart of love has pierced his heart, love for the frenzied maid. .3. c. acc. rei, shoot from a bow, metaph., discharge, send forth, “t. humnous” Pi.I.2.3;
-Erôs mostly sexual passion, goddess of love, Aphrodites,
II. as pr.n., Eros, the god of love, Hes.Th.120, Alcm. 36, Sapph.74, Theoc.29.22.
All Greek was SECULAR GREEK. God revealed His word to the COMMON PEOPLE who heard him gladly and thereby enforced the blindness and deafness of the "doctors of the Law" who took away the key to knowledge. The ATTIC Greek included plucking a harp string but the KOINE for the common people had eleminated it because it was UNIVERSALLY associated with driving the enemy into panic or the musical male and female prostitutes.
The word PSALLO is not a musical term. One "plucks" a bowstring and makes a "singing noise." Or one yanks out a hair from an enemy's head and it "twangs." Or, most often in the Hebrew, one TOUCHES or mishandles someone in a sexual way. Now, when one twangs a harp he TOUCHES it or GRINDS the sounding board into bits. But, Paul NEVER used a musical word.
The PROOF TEXTS for using PSALLO are all derived from texts where older males PLUCKED the harp string to PLUCK a "youth minister of the gods" in pederasty. The boy's pubic hair would have been PLUCKED: there is no other evidence.
"Make music" is a deliberate distortion of the NIV because the Greek has ANOTHER word for MAKING MUSIC. The NIV does not translate "make music" in the other 4 passages because it may know that these passages were CLEARLY speaking of EXTERNAL melody. The word MUSIC among the Greeks almost always included singing, dancing, clapping, playing instruments and getting drunk on wine:
Now his elder son was in the field: and as he came and drew nigh to the house, he heard musick and dancing. Lu.15:25
The MUSICAL word which the Holy Spirit could have uses is:
Sumphonia (g4858) soom-fo-nee'-ah; from 4859; unison of sound ("symphony"), i.e. a concert of instruments (harmonious note): - music.
There you have your PROOF for instrumental music as a symphony or concert.
The MUSICIANS in the book of Revelation speaks of the 9 MUSES. The muses were the goddesses who served at Apollo's Oracle of Delphi which was SATAN'S Seeker Center. Apollo as evil could turn himself into an "angel of light" and innocence such as a dolphin to seduce sailors into being MINISTERS.
A Homeric hymn to Apollo perhaps used by Rubel Shelly who bills his TEAM as able to "lead you into the presence of God."
(ll. 182-206) Leto's all-glorious son goes to rocky Pytho, playing upon his hollow lyre, clad in divine, perfumed garments; and at the touch of the golden key his lyre sings sweet.
Thence, swift as thought, he speeds from earth to Olympus, to the house of Zeus, to join the gathering of the other gods:
then straightway the undying gods think only of the lyre and song, and all the Muses together, voice sweetly answering voice,
hymn the unending gifts the gods enjoy and the sufferings of men,
all that they endure at the hands of the deathless gods,
and how they live witless and helpless and
cannot find healing for death or defence against old age.Psallo means to "abrade the enemy into a fine powder" just as Jesus did for Judas. Musical harmony HURTS. Jesus FIRED those who "create spiritual anxiety with religious ritual." The musicians are hurting your flesh and soul just to get you to, as always boasted about in the ancient world and by Carol Wimber, go orgasmatic.
The universal meaning of music devoted to the "gods" is that the gods who were almost totally if not totally HOMOSEXUAL and as with Jezebel taught that sodomy bound the spirit and flesh together.
If Jesus or Jehovah- Saved is ANY DIFFERENT then WHY would He approve music as Christian worship? Total, absolute insanity!
Alexander the Oracle Monger illustrates the Oracle of Delphi who worshiped Apollo (Abaddon or Apollyon) with music in order to COLLECT MONEY for pretend songs and sermons just FABRICATED out of the charismatic gibberish by the woman sitting over the gas fissure which even made goats "speak in tongues."
Alexander, on the other hand, preferred his native place, urging very truly that an enterprise like theirs required congenial soil to give it a start,
in the shape of 'fat-heads' and simpletons; that was a fair description, he said, of the Paphlagonians beyond Abonutichus;
they were mostly superstitious and well-to-do; one had only to go there with someone to play the flute, the tambourine, or the cymbals, set the proverbial mantic sieve a-spinning, and there they would all be gaping as if he were a god from heaven.
Again, music in the Holy Place trying to lead the worshipers into the presence of God with the same insanity as the Oracle drunk on gas, wine or music GOES WILDLY BEYOND THE WORST PAGAN TEMPLE KNOWN TO MANKIND.
A drop of black ink in a glass of white milk requires lots of effort to remove. Therefore, we have broken this review of FARMER'S BRANCH JUSTIFICATION for instrumental music into two parts.
NOT ONE PART of the PROOF TEXT fails to repudiate the Word of God which 100% of the time condemns instrumental music because it is a mind control device reserved for the warrior Levitical Musicians.
The Temple NOISE MAKERS were hiding the horrors of animal sacrifice and the burning of animals. In order to transition to a pagan temple to a spiritual temple the same LEVITICAL MOCKERS tried to defeat Jesus Christ whose sacrifice replaced that of bulls and goats.
All of the musical terms and names of instruments relate to the work of Satan, to pruning your vines to take your inheritance: the same word defines "play the flute, pollute and prostitute." MUSIC was the arena of children or male and female prostitutes: that is why the end time Babylon Whore has musicians and instruments to go back into hell with her.
We have added some good stuff in part two.
You may Click Here for Part Two. Here are some of the FALSE ASSUMPTIONS which can easily be REFUTED.
Chris Seidman and Farmer's Branch Church of Christ: The words "psallo" and "psalmos" as used in secular Greek literature from the 5th century B.C. to the 2nd century A.D.
apparently never referred to singing but only to the playing or the sound of an instrument.
The word psallo NEVER at any time or place in history meant to "play an instrument" unless the instrument is named. The word means to smite or strike with the fingers and NEVER with a plectrum; you cannot psallo with a guitar pick, a piano or flute.
Delitzsch, Psalms: The word "psalm", which is derived from the Greek word psalmos, is a translation of the Hebrew term mizmor, which is the title standing at the head of fifty-seven of the psalms. Thus it is evident that not every psalm has the superscription "psalm". But it is this word which has come to be the designation of the whole book.
"The name of psaltery entered Christian literature in the 3rd century B.C. translation of the Old Testament called the Septuagint where, in the Psalms, nebel was translated psalterion. Thus, Nebuchadnezzar's idolatrous ensemble included the Aramic psantria. Notice, also, that the book of Psalms has also become known as the Psalter (or psalterium), from the hymns sung with this harp. SourceThe translators used these words because they had meaning when plucking a bow to send forth a literal arrow or to pluck a lyre to send forth a love arrow.
Psalmos also appears in the LXX as equivalent to the Hebrew word neginah [5058]. This Hebrew term is used to describe a wide variety of songs. Neginah is translated by psalmos in Lam 3:14 (song), in Lam 5:14 (music) and in Ps 69:12 (song). It is striking to observe that in the LXX translation of Lam 3:14 and Ps 69:12, psalmos, or its verbal form, is used for songs that are not only uninspired but are in fact the product of the wicked, even drunkards, who mocked God and His word. The Hebrew term neginah is used elsewhere in the Hebrew Scriptures of: the songs of the wicked, Job 30:9 (song); the inspired praise of God, Psalm 61 title (Neginah-a song performed on a stringed instrument); and the uninspired praisd of the Lord composed by King Hezekiah, Is 38:20 (my songs).
Negiynah (h5058) neg-ee-naw'; or nÿgynath neg- ee- nath'; from 5059; prop. instrumental music; by impl. a stringed instrument; by extens. a poem set to music; spec. an epigram: - stringed instrument, musick, Neginoth [plur.], song
H5060 nâga‛ naw-gah' A primitive root; properly to touch, that is, lay the hand upon (for any purpose; euphemistically, to lie with a woman); by implication to reach (figuratively to arrive, acquire); violently, to strike (punish, defeat, destroy,NO! Psallo never meant make music: the Ephesians and Colossians were afflicted with the meetings where men got "fluted down with wine" Paul always contrast that with "meditation IN the heart" because God only seeks our worship IN OUR SPIRIT.Farmer's Branch Church of Christ: In the New Testament "psallo" means to make music in praise or to sing praise to God and is translated make music. The word "psalmos" means song and is translated psalm referring almost certainly to the Old Testament Psalms. These words may imply singing with instrumental accompaniment but do not demand it.
Because in all of the parallel passages which commands that we speak that which is written for our learning, and only Corinth and Colosse had pagan problems, Paul as he often did uses antithetical parallelism to make sure that they did NOT pluck harp strings.
EPHESIANS 5
Paul used antithetical parallelism to denounce outward singing or instrumental noise.
Notice Pauls use of parallelism: The word SPEAK is the opposite of POETRY or MUSIC. Therefore,II. Antithetical Parallelism--The thought of the first line is expressed by an antithesis in the second;
(a) The tongue of the wise adorneth knowledge,
or is counterbalanced by a contrast in the second. This parallelism is very common in the Book of Proverbs:
{but} The mouth of the fool blurteth out folly.
Prov., xv, 2.
(b) Soundness of heart is the life of the flesh,
{but} Envy is the rot of the bones.
--Proverbs 14:30.
The thoughts of the righteous are right,
But the counsels of the wicked are deceitful. Proverbs 12:5 (NKJV)
Eph. 5:17 Wherefore be ye not unwise,
BUT understanding what the will of the Lord is.
Eph. 5:18 And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess;
BUT [instead] be filled with the Spirit;
Eph. 5:19 Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs,
{BUT} singing and making melody IN your HEART to the Lord;
SPEAKING that which is written for our learning is the thesis: aeido and psallo is the antithes as the root definition would be clear to the Ephesians. Psallo has has the same root meaning as SOP which was fed to Judas to cause SATAN to enter into him.
Singing speaks of making noise or sounds with the voice or any inanimate thingThe word inserted in Ephesias 5 can best be understood by the universal command to SPEAK the word of God and then MEDITATE in the heart:
Aeidō, hence of all kinds of vocal SOUNDS, crow as cocks, Pl.Smp..223c; HOOT as owls,
hoi tettiges [LOCUSTS] khamothen asontai —of other sounds, TWANG, of the bow-string, Od.21.411; whistle, of the WIND through a tree, Mosch.Fr.1.8; ring, of a stone when struck, Theoc.7.26:—prov., prin nenikēkenai adein 'to CROW too soon', Pl.Tht.164c.—Constr.:—a. tini sing to ONE, Od.22.346; also, vie with one in singing, sing of, chant,
Aoid-ē a 5. = eppsdē, spell, INCANTATION,
PSALLO is never used for musical melody.
Psallō , fut. In a primary sense:
Pluck, pull, twitch, ps. etheiran pluck the hair, A.Pers.1062: esp. of the bow-string, toxōn kheri psallousi neuras twang them, E.Ba.784; “kenon kroton” Lyc.1453; ek keraos ps. belos send a shaft twanging from the bow, APl.4.211 (Stat. Flacc.); so miltokharēs skhoinos psallomenē a carpenter's red line, which is twitched and then suddenly let go, so as to leave a mark, AP6.103 (Phil.): metaph., “gunaikas ex andrōn psogos psallei, kenon toxeuma”
The word is commonly used in the Greek text meaning to "make the heart strings sing" or in the perverted sense "to shoot forth hymns or love arrows." The mark of the GODDESSES or muses (adulterers) was that they could hurt you and condemn you by shooting you with an arrow.SPEAKING THE WORD BY READING THE WORD
1Tim. 4:13 Till I come, give attendance to reading, to exhortation, to doctrine.
1Tim. 4:14 Neglect not the gift that is in thee,
which was given thee by prophecy, [teaching]
with the laying on of the hands of the presbytery.MAKING MELETAO IN THE HEART.
1Tim. 4:15 Meditate upon these things;
give thyself wholly to them; that thy profiting may appear to all.
G3191 meletaō mel-et-ah'-o From a presumed derivative of G3199 ; to take care of, that is, (by implication) revolve in the mind:—imagine, (pre-) meditate. attend to study esp. practise speaking, con over a speech in one's mind, practice, exercise,Psallo never means "melody" in any Greek literature. Disciples hear the WORD and then MEDITATE on it as the only way to learn or put the Biblical text in the long term memory.
2. attend to, study, ou dunamai akousai, touto meletōn (sc. to akousai) Hdt.3.115; “plēthous doxas memeletēkōs” Pl. Phdr.260c.
5. abs., study, train oneself, Ar.Ec.164, Th.1.80, X.HG 3.4.16; ēn to hippikon memeletēkos6.4.10: c. dat. modi, “toxō m. kai akontiō” Id.Cyr.2.1.21; en tō mē meletōnti by want of practice, Th.1.142.
ib.
There is no direct command to sing anywhere in the Bible: the command is to SPEAK which is defined as the opposite of poetry or music because everyone knew that rhetoricians, singers and musicians lied and were not permitted to write the truth or perform in decent society.Farmer's Branch Church of Christ: The conclusion resulting from this study of word meanings is that musical instruments are not denied or demanded in singing praise to the Lord.
Farmer's Branch Church of Christ: The facts of this study inevitably beg the question: if the Holy Spirit, speaking through Paul, intended to prohibit musical instruments in praise to the Lord, why did He use words which were so commonly associated with them?
In Ephesians 4 Paul says that godly, gifted leaders (no singers) were to GUARD you against cunninng craftsmen or sophists.
You may want to read Ephesians 4 and define words.
Sophis-tês , ou, ho, master of one's craft, adept, expert, of diviners, Hdt.2.49; of poets, meletan sophistais prosbalon Pi.I.5(4).28 , cf. Cratin.2; of musicians, sophistês . . parapaiôn chelun A.Fr.314, cf. Eup.447, Pl.Com. 140; sophistêi Thrêiki (sc. Thamyris) E.Rh.924, cf. Ath.14.632c: with mod
II. from late v B.C., a Sophist, i.e. one who gave lessons in grammar, rhetoric, politics, mathematics, for money, such as Prodicus, Gorgias, Protagoras, a quibbler, cheat, a RHETORICIAN as the primary meaning of a HYPOCRITE.
hoi s. tōn hierōn melōn” A sophist, serpent, makes MUSICAL MELODY with a congregation AS a harp and cannot grasp that IN THE HEART is a place.
Jer 23:16 Thus saith the Lord of hosts,
Hearken not unto the words of the prophets that prophesy unto you;
they make you vain:
they speak a vision of their own heart,
and not out of the mouth of the Lord.
Thus saith the Lord, After this manner will I mar the pride of Judah,
and the great pride of Jerusalem. Jer 13:9
This evil people, which refuse to hear my words,
........which walk in the imagination of their heart, [twisted]
........and walk after other gods, to serve them,
........and to worship them, shall even be as this girdle, which is good for nothing. Jer 13:10Jer 23:17 They say still unto them that despise me,
Despise tthe Word of God:
The Lord hath said, Ye shall have peace;
and they say unto every one that walketh
after the imagination of his own heart,
No evil shall come upon you.
Blasphēmo , āre, ak profanely of sacred things, “eis theous” Pl.R.381e; offer rash prayer I. v.a., = blasphēmeōto revile, reproach, Vulg. 1 Par. 20, 7; God and divine things, to blaspheme: “Christum,” Prud. Apoth. 415: “nomen Domini,” Tert. adv. Jud. 13 fin.; Vulg. Lev. 24, 11; id. Matt. 9. 3; 26, 65.
2. speak ill or to the prejudice of one, slander, “peri tēs emēs diatribēs”Farmer's Branch: The mention of these words would undoubtedly conjure up thoughts of musical instruments in the recipients of Paul's first century letter to the Ephesians.
Therefore, the first century Christians (writers and readers alike) would almost certainly have had no problem with singing to instrumental accompaniment based on Biblical words and their usage.
But, they all did: By simply understanding the MEANING OF WORDS there is no historic scholar who did not radically condem any kind of music in the assembly. In fact since the commanded resources are the Prophets and Apostles, and the people were faithful to speak the Bible-only and because NO BIBLE is metrical and you could not sing it if your life depended on it.
Click for this index for the 100% condemnation of music in the assembly.
The Catholics never used the organ to accompany singing.
The Reformers could not perform "congregational singing" until they radically rewrote some psalms (only) to be sung in unison (only).
There is not a single instance of the godly people gathering for congregational singing with instrumental backup. When they sang TO the harp they plucked a string and matched their voice to the sound: they did not sing and pick a tune because melody was not knownFarmer's Branch Church of Christ: Old And New Testament Continuity
The third area of interest is Old and New Testament continuity. As was mentioned earlier,
singing with instrumental accompaniment is frequently observed in the Old Testament, particularly in the Psalms.
Christ defined the future REST in great detail: He told us not to spend our money on the free Word and in Isaiah 58 commanded us NOT to seek our own pleasure or SPEAK OUR OWN WORDS. Paul commanded the same thing in Romans 15.Farmer's Branch Church of Christ: In the New Testament, the Book of Revelation, 5:8-9; 14:2-3; 15:2-3, unabashedly describes singing with musical instruments (harps).
Since the Old Testament was the "Bible" of the first century Christians,they saw no conflict between the Old Testament and the New Testament writings as they became available, and certainly would have had no inclination to understand music differently.
Decent people didn't make instrumental noise when they were "singing" (yelling, screeching) or reciting a poets work. There is no congregational singing in the New Testament and it was OUTLAWED for the synagogue or Church of Christ in the wilderness. The common people attended synagogue and were not permitted in the innercourt where the Levites made exorcism noises while the priests slaughtered innocent animals which God did not command.
In Mount Sinai 101a we learned that God turned the people or Civil-Military-Priestly class over to worship the starry host while He protected His Godly children by restricting them to their local synagogue to READ the Word and REST from the worship promoters. #148 is NOT a psalm but a halal meaning to "boast, make a fool of yourself, pretend that you are mad" this certainly intimidated the warriors.Farmer's Branch Church of Christ: They could vocally praise the Lord in Psalm 148 (Hallelujah, Praise Jehovah) and Psalm 150 (Praise Jehovah with trumpet, harp, lyre, ---) with all their heart, soul and spirit and feel no conflict in the two.
Psalms 148:1 halal ye the LORD. Praise ye the LORD from the heavens: praise him in the heights.
Psalms 148:2 Praise ye him, all his angels: praise ye him, all his hosts.
Psalms 148:3 Praise ye him, sun and moon: praise him, all ye stars of light.
Psalms 148:4 Praise him, ye heavens of heavens, and ye waters that be above the heavens.
Psalms 148:5 Let them praise the name of the LORD: for he commanded, and they were created.
Psalms 148:6 He hath also stablished them for ever and ever: he hath made a decree which shall not pass.
Psalms 148:7 Praise the LORD from the earth, ye dragons, and all deeps:
This could have been sung in Babylon and is similar to clay tablets.
The only people who "worshipped" fell on their face. And the praise word is a military practice because the Levites weChris Seidman: The presence of musical instruments in the worship of God throughout the Old Testament
Chris Seidman: In the New Testament, the Book of Revelation, 5:8-9; 14:2-3; 15:2-3, unabashedly describes singing with musical instruments (harps).
Since the Old Testament was the "Bible" of the first century Christians,
If you grasp that ekklesia or synagogue is a SCHOOL OF THE WORD OF CHRIST in the Prophets and Apostles you wouldn't DARE make instrumental noises when Jesus comes to teach when the elders "teach that which has been taught."Chris Seidman: as well as throughout Revelation in the New Testament begs the question.
REVELATION: John defines the end time revival of the Babylon Mother of Harlots. She uses lusted after "fruits" (same as Amos) as slick speakers, singers and instrument players: John called them sorcerers and grouped them with "dogs" or catamites and said that they will or have beeen cast alive into the lake of fire.
Christ in Isaiah 30 prophesied this: the marks in sight and sound of God casting His enemies into "hell" will be wind, string and percussion instruments.
Farmer's Branch: Can one, in light of the totality of the Scriptures, say that God is displeased with the incorporation of musical instruments in the worship of Him if they are mentioned throughout the Old Testament and are present in John's description of heaven throughout Revelation?
From the garden of Eden which Christ says was attacked by "Lucifer the singing and harp playing prostitute" to the Babylon Mother of harlots in Revelation 17 the Bible is FILLED with the Prophetic associating instrumental music with Satan and the mark of a fall beyond redemption. The fall from Grace at Mount Sinai was caused by the musical idolatry of the Egyptian (etal) trinity under the golden calf.
Isaiah 23:15 And it shall come to pass in that day, that Tyre shall be forgotten seventy years, according to the days of one king: after the end of seventy years shall Tyre sing as an harlot.
Isaiah 23:16 Take an harp, go about the city, thou harlot that hast been forgotten; make sweet melody, sing many songs, that thou mayest be remembered.
1. H3658 kinnôr kin-nore' From an unused root meaning to twang; a harp:—harp.
2. H5059 nâgan naw-gan' A primitive root; prop to thrum, that is, beat a tune with the fingers; especially to play on a stringed instrument; hence (generally) to make music:—player on instruments, sing to the stringed instruments, melody, ministrel, play (-er. -ing).
3 H7892 shı̂yr shı̂yrâh sheer, shee-raw' The second form being feminine; from H7891 ; a song; abstractly singing:—musical (-ick), X sing (-er, -ing), song.If you read Acts 7 you will hear Stephen repudiating the whole sacrificial system and agreeing with Amos that the fatal fall from grace at Mount Sinai was musical idolatry.
Perhaps this is the religious and secular rulers giving up their thrones and rules. For certain you cannot play the harps while falling down. The spiritual concept of HOLDING your harps is to APPREHEND the Word of God: Every mention of praising God with instruments follows up in the rest of the chapter presenting the ANTITHESIS which is to teach the WORD (only) as it is WRITTEN (only). In Revelation 5 the word BEAST is Theiron which is a two-legged beast: It includes "A new style of singing or drama" so we know the MARK of the Beast which implicates the well recognized persona of "praise singers."
CLASS NUMBER ONE:
Revelation 5:8 And when he had taken the book,CLASS NUMBER TWO
the FOUR BEASTS and four and twenty ELDERS
fell down before the Lamb,
having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours,
which are the prayers of saints.
When Jesus and the apostles HYMNED a hymn both hymn and the Latin "dico"means to SPEAK or recite: none of the Bible is metrical so you cannot sing it in four part Seidman.
Scripture DEFINES the hymn:
Revelation 5:9-10 And they sung a new song, SAYING,
"Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof:
for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood
out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;
And hast made us unto our God kings and priests:
and we shall reign on the earth. "
Revelation 5:11 And I beheld, and I heard the voice of MANY ANGELSCLASS NUMBER THREE for the living
round about the throne and the beasts and the elders:
and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand,
and thousands of thousands;
Revelation 5:12 SAYING with a loud voice,
"Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches,
and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing."
Revelation 5:13 And EVERY CREATURE which is in heaven, and on the earth,REVELATION 14 the same warning of judgment:
and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them,
heard I SAYING,
"Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power,
be unto him that sitteth upon the throne,
and unto the Lamb for ever and ever. "
AND I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Fathers name written in their foreheads. Rev 14:1
What they heard was from heaven--in the atmosphere over Zion.
And I heard a voice from heaven
Keladeo sound as flowing water 2. of persons, shout aloud, atar keladēsan Akhaioi, in applause. keladeonti amphi Kinuran phamai” Pi.P.2.15: c. acc. cogn., “k. humnous” lSound of the grasshopper, ring bells, of the flute, sing of, celebrate loudly.
..........like the sound of many waters and
..........like the sound of loud thunder; the voice I heard was
..........like the sound of harpers playing on their harps Revelation 14:2RSV
However, the LITERAL sounds in Revelation 18 John calls "sorcerers." The "heaven" are terms used in paganism and the role of Christ is to replace them:Ouranos vault or firmament of heaven, sky
Hesperos, hos kallistos en ouranō histatai astēr” 22.318; “ouranos asteroeis” 6.108,al.
2. heaven, as the seat of the gods, outside or above this skyey vault, the portion of Zeus (v. Olumpos), 15.192, cf.Od.1.67,
Heaven-gate, i. e. a thick cloud, which the Hōrai lifted and put down like a trap-door, 5.749, 8.393; so, later, hoi ex ouranou the gods of heaven,
Opora III. metaph., life's summer, the time of youthful ripeness, Pi.I.2.5 ; tereinan mater' oinanthas opōran (v. oinanthē) Id.N.5.6 ; ripe virginity, A.Supp.998, 1015 ; “o. Kupridos”
Therefore, rather than worship the creature and the heavens, we are commanded worship God Who MADE all of these things:
Rev. 14:6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven,
having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth,
and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,
Rev. 14:7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him;
for the hour of his judgment is come:
and worship him that MADE heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.
Rev. 14:8 And there followed another angel,
saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city,
because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.Chris Seidman, Farmers Branch Church of Christ repudiates all of the Biblical and historical facts in order to pervert Scripture in order to USE musical worship teams an instrumental music. That is identical to the SACRIFICIAL MUSIC as they mocked Jesus.
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