Logos (modern) is
rational of the word and STRAIGHT: Mythos and Sophia
(postmodern) are irrational and Gender-Confused. Mythos Nomoi
(traditional law)
We are commanded to SPEAK the WORD of Christ specificiially in
the Prophets (by Christ) and Apostles as eye-- and
ear--witnesses of Jesus of Nazareth who fulfilled or made the
prophecies more perfect:
He knew that the WORD could be hidden in clear sight for the
corrupters of the Word: selling learning at retai.
The NACC and Rick Atchley will tell you that the church is built
upon the foundation of King Hezekiah's animal slaughter to
appease a god who made the temple (court: never house) unfit for
such slaughter. However, at their "church house" where
their god lived they were buring infants just before Hezekiah
and just after he died. That is because the Levite noise
makers (they never made music) were an old Moloch infant burning
cult in Egypt and Israel worshipped Moloch in the wilderness
AFTER God turned them over to worship the starry host BECAUSE of
musical idolatry.
However, Christ in the prophets (off limits to the musical
idolaters) said
Israel
rose up to PLAY at Mount Sinai. All of those
planning to sow discord by adding instruments rise up to PLAY.
They simply do not understand that throughout the Bible
including Paul and Peter the PLAY at Mount Sinai is
a PATTERNISM which disciples are commanded NOT to
follow. And yet all of the "scholars" get waged to tell you
that God WANTS you to PLAY while pretending to worship
Him. Play means to play musical instruments as
"pretend worship" when God has commanded you to KEEP His day
of REST. Play is playing with one another: Romans 1
defines the terminal fall from grace at Mount Sinai proving
that religious musicians have always been effeminate and
PRODUCE the same effect in the awed spectators.
When people mock people at least trying to be faithful to
the Word of Christ, Paul would say that they are under
strong delusions: the MARK of strong delusions is performing
religious ceremonies with all of the performing (hypocritic)
arts and crafts.
Lying Wonders: -Teratourg-eτ,
A. WORK wonders, pseudτsti Sch.Pi.I.7(6).13.
Lying is -Pseudes 2. fiction
(opposite logos, historic
- Muthos
2. fiction (Opposite logos, historic truth)
logos , o(, verbal noun
of leg (B), with senses
corresponding to leg (B) II and III (on the
various senses of the word v. Opposite Pathos or
peacher's tales
Opposite epagogue; , 2.
bringing in to one's aid, introduction, 4.
allurement, enticement b. incantation,
spell, leading away into captivity. Opposite poetry,
metrical songs or speech, music.
Aristot.
Rh. 3.6.3 [3] Use
metaphors and epithets by way of illustration, taking
care, however, to avoid what is too poetical. Aristot. Rh.
3.6.7 Poets also make use of this in
inventing words, as a melody "without
strings" or "without the lyre"; for they employ epithets
from negations, a course which is approved in
proportional metaphors, as for instance, to say that the sound
of the trumpet is a melody without
the lyre.
-[3. 8. 1 The form of diction should be neither metrical nor without rhythm. If it is metrical, it lacks
persuasiveness, for it appears artificial, and at the same time it distracts the
hearer's attention, since it sets him on the
watch for the recurrence of such and such a cadence.
-Pindar, Pythian, Odes 4:[216] Aphrodite [ZOE]
of Cyprus brought the maddening bird to men for the
first time, and she taught the son of Aeson skill in prayerful incantations, so that he could rob Medea of reverence
for her parents. and a longing for Greece
would lash her, her mind on fire, with the whip of
Persuasion.
THERE ARE GOOD REASONS WHY "THE BUSSES DO NOT COME" AND THE
NACC "UNITY" PLOY REAPED ONLY A DOZEN OR SO OUT OF THEIR
CLAIMED 28,000 CONGREGATIONS. Never believe lying wonder
workers: Christ will not allow them to speak the Word as it
has been taught.
This is an end-time fulfillment (I hope) of the Babylon mother
of harlots (Rev 17) who uses lusted after fruits (same as in
Amos) as slick speakers, singers and instrument players. As
the Levitical instrumentalist "prophesied with instruments"
and are defined as SOOTHSAYERS, John calls them SORCERERS in
Revelation 18 who HAD deceived the whole world.
The Vote is in and you have nothing to gain at Tulsa other
than to be aggitated by singing boys and girls.
IF THEY SAY THERE IS NOTHING AGAINST INSTRUMENTS DURING THE
SCHOOL OF CHRIST TREAT THEM LIKE SAYING THE EARTH IS FLAT.
George
Girardeau speaking for all knowledgeable Bible
students
In the first place, it will be noticed from the account
of the triumphant rejoicing on the shore of the
Red Sea that the men
sang only: "Then
sang Moses and the children of Israel this song
unto the Lord, and spake, saying," etc. What can
be gathered from this simple singing of the
males of Israel, in praise of God for their
great deliverance, in favor of instrumental
music in worship, it is rather difficult to see.
In the second place, it was Miriam and the women who used instruments of music on
the occasion: "And Miriam the prophetess, the
sister of Aaron, took a timbrel in her hand; and
all the women went after her with timbrels and
with dances."
See Exodus
32 as the PATTERN of all falls from Grace:
all falls were the result of imposing musical
instruments (machines for doing hard work mostly in
making war or creating the shockand awe of religious
spectacles used to fleece the lambs.
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In Exodus
31 God warned against letting loose or lose custody of
singing, playing and being entertained when the
assembly was Called.
In Exodus 32 the people depending
on God's SILENCE to permit their IMAGINATION rose up
to play in musical Idolatry.
In Deuteronomy 31 Moses defined SONGS as
to be SPOKEN for instruction from
God (only):
In
Deuteronomy 32 in the SECOND LAW the musical
idolatry was repeated.
- Individuals are Disciples (only) of Christ
(only) and only when the elders SPEAK and
teach that which has been taught.
- It is logical that the doctors of the Law whom
Jesus said "take away the key to knowledge" insist
that God DOES not speak: rather "a" spirit tells
them that they can fabricated their own Commands,
Examples and Necessary Inferences IF you want to
be their disciple.
- If your shepherds fail to warn you and you FALL
into the Devil's trap (His children speak on their
OWN) you will never get up.
- God abandoned the Israelites to be destroyed by
their own people and sentenced the rest to
"worship the starry host."
Deut 31:21 And it shall come to pass, when many evils
and troubles are befallen them,
that this
song shall testify against them as a witness;
for it shall not
be forgotten out of the mouths of their seed:
for I know their
imagination which they go about,
even now, before
I have brought them into the land which I sware.
- All false teachers who claim that a "spirit"
gives them the authority to speak and impose
where God has been silent.
- That is proof that they cannot read and just
make laughingstocks of themselves and their
disciples.
- Paul said of the Corinthians that fools love
to be fooled because they have no love for the
truth.
- They will hurt you in more ways you can
imagine if you tamper with "god's anointeds."
- God says that no human has the wisdom to ADD
to the Word of God:
Cōgĭtātĭo ,
ōnis, f. cogito, i. e. co-agito; cf. Varr. L. L. 6, § 43; Cic. Off. 1, 6,
19; Paul. ex Fest. p. 66, 7 Mόll..
I. Abstr., a
thinking, considering, deliberating;
thought, reflection, meditation
(in good prose, and very freq.).
A. Concr., a thought, opinion,
judgment; a resolution, design. plan,
project: posteriores enim cogitationes (ut aiunt) sapientiores solent esse, Cic. Phil.
12, 2, 5 (transl. of hAi deuterai pōs phrontides sophōterai): ista cogitatio de triumpho, id. Att. 7,
3, 2
B. In Cic. several times, thought
as an intellectual power, the ability of
thinking, power or faculty of
thought, the reasoning power
săpĭo ,
īvi or ĭi (sapui, Aug. Civ. Dei, 1, 10; id. Ep.
102, 10; but sapivi, Nov.
ap. Prisc. p. 879
P.; id. ap. Non. 508, 21:
I. saPisti, Mart. 9, 6, 7: sapisset, Plaut. Rud.
4, 1, 8), 3, v. n. and a.
[kindr. with opos, saphēs, and sophos], to
taste, savor; to taste, smack,
or savor of, to have a taste
or flavor of a thing (cf. gusto
b. To suggest, be inspired by
: quia non sapis ea quae Dei sunt, Vulg. Matt.
16, 23; id. Marc. 8,
33.
c. Altum or alta
sapere, to be high-minded or proud:
noli altum sapere, Vulg. Rom.
11, 20: non alta sapientes,
Sophos
, ē, on, A. skilled
in any handicraft or art, clever,
harmatēlatas s. Pi.P.5.115,
cf. N.7.17;
kubernētēs A.Supp.770;
mantis Id.Th.382;
oiōnothetas S.OT484
(lyr.); of a sculptor, E.Fr.372;
even of hedgers and ditchers, Margites Fr.2;
but in this sense mostly of poets and
musicians, Pi.O.1.9,
P.1.42,
3.113;
en kithara s. E.IT1238
(lyr.), cf. Ar.Ra.896
(lyr.), etc
lso en oiōnois, kithara, E. IT662,
1238
(lyr.)
MOSES DEFINED THE SYNAGOGUE FOR TEACHING THE WORD
OF GOD:
The synagogue
continued when the leaders returned to their tribes
and SPOKE the instructions of God:
The synagogue
EXCLUDES vocal or instrumental rejoicing:
this was always
the MARK of people making the lambs dumb before the
slaughter.
Deut 31:28 Gather unto me all the elders of
your tribes,
and your officers,
that I may speak these words in their ears,
and call heaven and
H6950 qβhal kaw-hal' A primitive root; to
convoke:assemble (selves) (together), gather
(selves) (together).
Deut 31:29 For I know that after my death ye will
utterly corrupt yourselves, and turn aside
from the way which I have commanded you; and evil
will befall you in the latter days; because ye will
do evil in the sight of the Lord, to provoke him
to anger through the work of your hands.
Deut 31:30 And Moses SPAKE in the ears of
all the congregation of Israel the words of
this song, until they were ended.
Moses didn't SING this song He SPOKE it because
comprehension was the purpose: teaching and
admonishing.
lŏquor
I. nf.
loquier, Naev. ap. Gell. 1, 24, 2),
v. dep. n. and a. [Sanscr. lap-, to
talk, whisper; Gr. lak-, elakon, laskō], to speak,
talk, say (in the lang. of common life, in the
tone of conversation; cf. Quint. 9, 4, 10;
11, 3, 45).
II. Transf.
A.To speak, declare, show, indicate
or express clearly: oculi nimis arguti quemadmodum animo affecti simus, loquuntur, rē-scrībo
imperial rescription
Logos
Rational discourse 2.
[select] statement of a theory,
argument, ouk emeu alla tou l. akousantas prob. in Heraclit.50; logon ēde noēma amphis alētheiēs discourse
and reflection on reality, Parm.8.50;
dēloi houtos ho l. hoti . . Democr.7; ouk ekhei logon it is not arguable,
i.e. reasonable, to be explained, ; ho ton l. mou akouōn my teaching,
Ev.Jo.5.24, of arguments
leading to a conclusio,
V. inward debate of the soul Pl.Tht.189e
THIS IS A CLEAR STATEMENT THAT PAUL
MADE CLEARLY IN EPHESIANS 5
Notice that Paul often uses forms of parallelism
II. Antithetical
Parallelism--The thought of the first
line is expressed by an antithesis in the
second; or is counterbalanced by a contrast in
the second. This parallelism is very common in
the Book of Proverbs:
(a) The tongue of the wise
adorneth knowledge,
{but} The
mouth of the fool blurteth out folly.
Prov., xv, 2.
(b) Soundness of heart is the life of the flesh,
{but}Envy is the rot of the bones.
--Proverbs 14:30.
The thoughts of the righteous are right,
But the
counsels of the wicked are deceitful. Proverbs
12:5 (NKJV)
The word SPEAK is the opposite of POETRY or
MUSIC. Therefore,
Eph. 5:17 Wherefore be ye not unwise,
but
understanding what the will of the Lord is.
Eph. 5:18 And be not drunk with wine,
wherein is excess;
but be
filled with the Spirit;
Eph. 5:19 Speaking to yourselves in psalms
and hymns and spiritual songs,
{but}
singing and making melody in your heart to
the Lord;
Eph. 5:20 Giving thanks always for all things unto
God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus
Christ;
This is true because you cannot SPEAK and SING at
the same time in an external sense.
John 4:20 Our fathers worshipped in this
mountain;
and ye say,
that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to
worship.
John 4:21 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me,
the hour cometh,
when ye
shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at
Jerusalem, worship the Father.
John 4:23 But the hour cometh, and now is,
when the
true worshippers shall worship the Father in
spirit and in truth:
for the
Father seeketh such to worship him.
John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship
him
must
worship him in spirit and in truth.
You cannot worship a Spirit God in houses built
by human hands or by the works of human hands.
Phil. 3:2 Beware of dogs, beware of evil
workers, beware of the concision.
Phil. 3:3 For we are the circumcision, which
worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in
Christ Jesus,
and have no
confidence in the flesh.
Plat.
Theaet. 189e Socrates
As the talk which the soul
has with itself about any subjects which it
considers. You must not suppose that I know this
that I am declaring to you. But the soul, as
the image presents itself to me,
when it
thinks, is merely conversing with itself, asking
itself questions and answering,
psu_kh-ē ,
hē ps. pneuma Xenoph. ap. D.L.9.19;
kardia psukhēs kai aisthēsios arkha]
kardi-a ,
h(, Ion. kardiē , Ep.
kra^diē (kardiē esp. as the
seat of feeling and passion 3. mind,
hōs anoon kradiēn ekhes Il.21.441;
kradiē porphure Od.4.572;
kradiē protiosset' olethron 5.389;
ei theasē tois tēs kardias ophthalmois Corp.Herm. 4.11,
cf. 7.2; dialogismoi anabainousi en tē k. Ev.Luc.24.38.
aisth-ēsis
,organ or seat of sensation, also
of the mind, perception, knowledge of a
thing,
[190a]
affirming and denying. When it has arrived at a
decision, whether slowly or with a sudden bound,
and is at last agreed, and is not in doubt, we
call that its opinion;
and so I
define forming opinion as talking and opinion as
talk which has been held,
not with
someone else, nor yet aloud,
but in
silence with oneself.
Plat.
Soph. 263e
Stranger
Well, then, thought and speech are
the same;
only the
former, which is a silent inner conversation
of the soul with itself,
has
been given the special name of thought. Is not
that true?
Theaetetus
Certainly.
Stranger
But the stream that flows from the soul
in vocal utterance through the mouth has the name
of speech
Logos is:
Opposite Epagoge
2. bringing in to one's aid,
introduction
b. incantation,
spell, in pl., Pl.R.364c,
Lg.933d;
Hekatēs phaskōn epagōgēn gegonenai saying
that Hecate had put it under a spell, Thphr.Char.16.7.
7. leading
away into captivity, captivity, LXX Is.14.17:
generally, distress, misery, ib. Si.23.14
(pl.), cf. Hsch.
sophia , Ion.
-iē, h(, prop. A.
cleverness or skill in
handicraft and art in music and singing, tekhnē kai s. h.Merc.483,
cf. 511;
in poetry, Sol.13.52,
Pi.O.1.117,
Ar.Ra.882,
X.An.1.2.8,
etc.; in driving, Pl. Thg.123c;
in medicine or surgery, Pi.P.3.54;
in divination, S.OT 502
(lyr.)
Opposite. muthos, as history
to legend, Ti.26e;
poiein muthous all' ou logous Phd.61b,
Opposite. prooimion, ib. 1415a12
intelligent utterance, Opposite.
phōnē, Arist.Pol.1253a14;
l. esti phōnē sēmantikē kata sunthēkēn
prose, Opposite.
poiēsis, Id.R.390a;
opp. psilometria, Arist.Po.1448a11;
opp. emmetra, ib. 1450b15
(pl.); tō l. touto tōn metrōn (sc. to iambeion
SONGS were always spoken or recited: the purpose was
to instruct others and the style would be cantillation
or an elevated pitch and sound level as in rhetoric.
con-grĕgo
, āvi, ātum, 1B.
Trop. (rare; mostly in Quint.), to
collect, accumulate: argumenta infirmiora, Quint. 5, 12, 4:
verba, id. 9, 3, 45;
cf. turbam (verborum), id. 10, 1, 7;
cf. congregatio, II.
Ekklκsi-a
A. assembly
duly summoned, less general than sullogos, Th.2.22,
Pl.Grg.456b,
, II. in LXX,
the Jewish congregation, De. 31.30,al. 2.
in NT, the Church, as a body of Christians,
Ev.Matt.
16.18, 1 Ep.Cor.11.22
; hē kat' oikon tinos e. Ep.Rom.16.5
; as a building, Cod.Just.1.1.5
Intr., etc.
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1.04.11 When
people speak out of their own imagination instead of the
Word as Spirit by Christ in the Prophets and Apostles,
Christ calls it blasphemy. Of Hezekiah's Plague
stopping exorcism used to say that "God commanded
instrumental praise and we must not be disobedient" Christ
calls them BLASPHEMERS.
See
Christ defining Blasphemy of The Holy Spirit
For I spake NOT unto your fathers,
nor commanded them
in the day that I brought them
out of the land of Egypt,
concerning burnt offerings
or sacrifices: Jeremiah 7:22
But this thing commanded I them, saying,
Obey my voice, and I will
be your God, and ye shall be my people: (CENI)
and walk ye in all the
ways that I have commanded you, (CENI)
that it may be well unto
you. Jeremiah 7:23
Jer 23:17 They say still unto
them that despise me,
The
Lord
hath said, Ye shall have peace;
and they say unto every one that walketh
after
the imagination of his own heart,
No evil shall come upon you. "You can SOW
discord and steal from the owners"
Despise tthe Word of God of God and using your
own words is:
Blasphēm-eō , pf.
2.
speak ill or to the prejudice of one,
slander, peri tēs emēs diatribēs Isoc.15.2,
cf. D.l.c., ib.82; b. kata tinos Isoc.12.65,
cf. Arist.Fr.44;
hosa eis hēmas eblasphēmēsan D.51.3;
b. tina Babr.71.6,
Ev.Luc.23.39,
etc.: abs., Phld.Lib.p.8
O.:Pass., to have evil spoken of one, beblasphēmēmenous Id.Vit.p.12 J., cf. 1 Ep.Cor.10.30.
3. speak impiously or irreverently
of God, blaspheme, eis ton Kurion LXX Da.3.29(96);
eis to pneuma to hagion Ev.Marc.3.29;
eis ta theia Vett. Val.58.12; tous theous Id.67.20:
abs., LXX 2 Ma.10.34,
al., Ev.Matt.9.3.
Rev. 7.27.10
Psalm 2:1 WHY do the heathen
rage,
and the
people imagine a vain thing?
Psalm
2:2 The kings of the earth set themselves,
and the
rulers take counsel together,
against the
Lord, and against his anointed, saying,
Psalm
2:3 Let us break their bands asunder,
and cast
away their cords from us.
Psalm 2 prophesied of people who would
want to CAST OF the bindings to Christ and His Word in
order to chain them to themselves.
Jesus in John 17 identifies the WORLD using the word COSMOS.
We know exactly the name of the world ruler, his cult and
worship practices. Jesus refused to preach the gospel
to them and even said that he would NOT pray for the World.
Only a tiny remnant will come OUT of the world instead
of wanting to UNITE with the World.
A Gathered People: Revisioning the
Assembly as Transforming Encounter by
John Mark Hicks, Johnny Melton and Bobby Valentine.
These people really lust to drag you back under the
sacrificial system which was the worship of the starry host
to which God abandoned them because of musical idolatry at
Mount Sinai. LU is in big trouble. THE BOOK for your review.
I hope you will read the summary of the TRANSFORMING
method of Jesus Christ which EXCLUDES rhetoricians,
singers and instrument players as always perverted and
performing sorcery as John confirms in Revelation 18 of
the "lusted after fruits" working for the Mother of
Babylonian Harlot.
History 101 knows that the Church of Christ was not part of
the Cane Ridge witchcraft and held NO DOCTRINE in common
with the Disciples. Barton W. Stone thought that UNION
trumped doctrine and there were some UNIONS of meeting in
the same building. Of course, that did not involve the
Church of Christ at large, was opposed and ceased when the
"Catholic, Church of England, Methodist, Christian Church"
movement began to add instruments. The first organ was
introduced in the Free Black Methodist church AFTER they
discovered that loss of income could be made up with a
musical: it worked so well that they added it to the
"worship."
Rick
Atchley is back again after he twisted all of
the Bible and history out of shape to SUBVERT a
non-instrumental church: of course, the NACC under DAvid
Faust that year helped subvert with the usual white paper
filled with 100% black lies. Rick intended to subvert the
church into a "christian" church from the
beginning but boiling frogs takes time.
Edward Fudge
sees beyond the sacred page but his take on A cappella is
filled with error. a cappella meant the pope's
castrated team singing organum. It is really lying to
claim that NOT using "machines for doing hard work" is just
OUR TRADITION.
See
some
of the perverted background to A Cappella or the
goat singers pointing to Pan and the worship of the starry
host.
Marvin Phillips will
team up with Victor Knowles to discuss ONE CHURCH. Of
course, the mantra that the Church of Christ sected out of
the Christian Church is the worst kind of deliberate
deception. The lie of the Stone-Campbell
Movement
See Burnett to prove that the Church of
Christ and the Disciples have no common roots
and no common view of Scripture: it is obvious from all of
these experts that they follow the Disciples creed that
historic councils and our changed culture must be used to
interpret the Bible.
See H.
Leo Boles to show that the Christian church
even before the NACC has always been on the attack to try to
force churches of Christ to add instruments: apparently
there is some deep psychological guilt which can only be
cleansed by confessing that instruments are Scriptural.
The Disciples tell the
truth that the movements were based on separate foundations.
The lie is continued in Restoration Roots but we know
that the Millennial Harbinger was launched to oppose the
Millerites tallen over by Ellen G. White. The Disciples
got SPOOKED and decided that THEY had to save the Jews
to make it possible for Jesus to return and establish an
earthly kingdom. The Jubilee and most of the false
movements had the same impulse to GET TOGETHER to enable
Jesus to return. Hughes etal mistake the Campbell's
THE PROTESTANT THEORY quote to be his own: it was not.
Campbell MOCKED the idea that a handfull of UNITERS
made it so.
Victor
Knowles
is mister "sow discord among churches of Christ."
From Pepperdine in 2004
For the NACC to lie that the Church of Christ SECTED away
from THEM in 1906 is a confession that THEY were the
Disciples of Christ in 1906 who had already sowed massive
discord with their instruments and denomination intending to
"include ALL of Christendom." They WILL NOT in fact
say that they agree with the Disciples when WE know that it
was they who SECTARIANIZED OUT in 1926-27.
Terry
Rush has about the best TWISTED VIEW of
instrumental music but obviously has never read the Old
Testament and does not know the story line. As long as
preachers do proof-texting to support their thesisi there
will always be division: that is their job. I have included
a summary to prove that the Elite Civil-Clergy was added as
a curse BECAUSE of musical idolatlry. The prophets speaking
by the Spirit of Christ called them robbers and parasites.
Speaking of the Law as SHADOW proves that it was a COVENANT
WITH DEATH and that is exactly what the mean as "kings set
over us" need to keep people from grasping that they do not
have a ROLE and they have no FUNDING other than stealing
from the widows like the Scribes and Pharisees whom Jesus
called hypocrites by pointing the slick speakers, singers
and instrument players.
Jeff Walling will
bring
lots
of buffoonery (the mark of WRATH in Hebrew) and may be the
first one -- not invited -- to announce to people that NOT
using instruments was just our TRADITION. I think Jeff
is the spitting image of George Whitefield trained in
THEATER but who used theatrics to promote his contribution
to the First Great American Awakening which was birthed out
of witchcraft as was Cane Ridge the birthplace of the
Disciples.
WATCH THIS PAGE FOR
WARNINGS ABOUT THE BAIT AND SWITCH WRESTLING MATCH. 2004
Review of Tulsa Workshop
Rick
Atchley
is on the billborard for 2008: is there
some reason that one who lied about every Biblical and
historical witness AGAINST instruments is still DEmothing
or Destoring the church? I know that "numbers and $s
count" but some prime examples proves that, first, God
does not let you get away with lying TO Him and ABOUT
Him. Second, people may set like owls on a
log and you THINK that they are laughing WITH you but they
are silently weeping that the wrath of God has been poured
out meaning that He sends singers, jesters and
Buffoons. His finances are not going well
nor does his boasted 6,400 members to get him a
seat on the pillar measure up with a consistent mid 3000
number and a dwindling income. The church Max built
is having second thoughts.
Looks like someone spiked the fleece
Max and Lynn Anderson's eldersare setting
out. With 40% involved in financeing the new leap it
sounds like they still have some split ends. I am told that
the participate PRE APOSTASY was 90% participation. When
people discover that elders are so dishonorable that they
will BAIT AND SWITCH or divert monies to their own ends
there is NO LAW OF GIVING and I am still anticipating that
some men involved in hostile takeovers will do some hard
time on the rock: if not now then later because Isaiah says
that HELL is prepared and God BEATS people there with the
same wind, string and percussion instruments Lucifer--the
singing and harp-playing prostitute--brought with him/her/it
into the garden of Eden.
"The collection guaranteed adequate
funds for the down payment on the Journey Fellowship
initiative, so we are moving forward with remodeling the Bluebonnet
Dance Hall into an auditorium. We lacked
enough money to build a new facility at Crownridge,
however. So we, like Gideon, set out another fleece
and explored the idea of reducing the size of the
building."
We are informed by a still
resisting member-leader that they are having second
thoughts.
You can tell which way
the Navigating Winds are blowing by seeing which end the
smoke is coming from. Those Wade Hodges has selected to
represent churches of Christ are clearly NOT. They are
already changed or changing to be more like the Christian
Church by confiscating peaceable churches of Christ.
The NACC is reaping a
few tares with their pseudo-unity lectures: as at
Freedhardeman U, the non-instrumentalists are always
caught with their rants down because there is no KNOWLEDGE
BASE other than "the law of giving" and "historical
examples." We have added:
David Faust who
snookered FU and who CO-conspired with Rick Atchley in the
Hostile Takeover.
First,
we
will look at the Temple Dedication: False
teachers see this as God's charismatic fit when He heard
the 120 trumpets make ONE SOUND. Bible students know
that it MARKED God removing His symbolic presnece, His
Grace under the Mercy Seat and the Word once under the
Mercy Seat. So, the NACC is promoting the
Sabazianism of the Jews.
Second,
David Faust Claims that God PROPHESIED Instrumental
music for the church. Just like all of the experts
at Guru there will not be ONE who knows the story line of
the Old Testament.
Third, David Faust claims
that Jesus did not address Instrumental Music.
Jesus identified the Scribes and Pharisees etal as
HYPOCRITES by pointing to the prophecy by Isaiah which is
included in Ezekiel. God speaking to Ezekiel identifies
slick speakers, singers and instrument players as HYPOCRITES
and those who ATTENDED were hypocrites just wanting to be
entertained by the hypocrites. ALL of the Greek world
indentified singers and musicians as ENCHANTERS: indeed John
identifies the Mother of Harlots (Rev 17) and calls the
singers and musicians and other "craftsmen" SORCERERS.
No Phd will find any exception to that and to the
homosexuality-religious music connection.
All of the book writers for the NACC quote many of
the ancient authors to prove that PSALLO means playing the
harp when their examples just means PLUCK. And ALL of their
examples which they smooth over identify senior males
PLUCKING a harp to seduce a "youth minister" who was
normally castrated (a capella) or sex changed for that task.
John Waddey compiles
the following:
Our latest search for
unity began with the "Restoration Summit" meeting at Ozark Bible College in
Joplin, MO in 1984. The principle leaders from our
brotherhood were Alan Cloyd, Ruel Lemmons and Rubel Shelly. Don DeWelt led
the Independent Christian Church preachers. Lemmons and
DeWelt are both deceased, and Cloyd in now longer
active. Rubel
Shelly,
Calvin Warpula and Rick Atchley are chief promoters among
our people and Victor Knowles is a principle leader of
the Christian Churches. At the beginning, there were
four attitudes seen among our people:
1. A warm enthusiastic
reception by some wh o had little or no concern about the doctrinal problems involved.
2. A cautious willingness by some to investigate the
matter, to see if there is any possibility of positive
good to be realized.
3. Others were suspicious of compromise and refused to participate.
4. A number were
militantly opposed to the whole idea and determined to
block it.
We have posted some of
the very false teaching by Ray Downen and Dwaine E. Dunning who express sentiment toward
taking an AXE
to the non-instrumental position.
Victor Knowles is founder and executive director of
POEM (Peace on Earth Ministries), located in Joplin,
Missouri. He has served as editor of the quarterly
magazine ONE BODY since its inception by Don DeWelt in
1984. He and his wife Evelyn also write a monthly
newsletter, THE KNOWLESLETTER. Victor is a coordinator
of the annual unity meeting known as The Restoration
Forum. He has authored a number of books and has been
published in IMAGE, WINESKINS, INTEGRITY, CHRISTIAN
STANDARD, THE LOOKOUT, PULPIT HELPS, MOODY, and many
other journals. He has spoken at the International Soul
Winning Workshop, Pepperdine University Bible Lectures,
North
American Christian Convention, National Prayer Clinic,
National Missionary Convention, South Pacific Christian
Convention, and several national and international Bible
conferences and Christian writers' conferences. POEM
does evangelistic and humanitarian work in Poland,
Russia, Belarus, Ukraine, Cuba, and India. Victor, son
of a minister and poet, is a 1968 graduate of Midwestern
School of Evangelism. His work ethic is based upon a
statement by C. S. Lewis, "All that is not eternal is
eternally useless."
Victor
Knowles does a repeat of Tom Burgess who cannot
get a single Biblical or historical fact correct. Both
make a big push on the PSALLO word but it simplle means to
PLUCK or TWITCH. It is primarily a WARFARE word and also
speaks of shooting "love arrows." The proof texts which
they use are available and all EXAMPLES are of older males unmanly
plucking the harp to groom young boys.
You should read what Victor pours out on the heads of ANTI-instrumentalists who he
attacks with this term because they believe that using
instrumental music in the face of a Holy God when He is
conducting classes is a SIN. The literature of these two thousand
years is universally in favor of calling such discorders
sinners because they are subconscious or unconsious pagans. If not then
presuming to be a teacher and being totally ignorant
without any original research surely must be a sin beyond
redemption. Alfred repeats the old Tom Burgess research.
See more on Strabo's
definition of the worship of Apollo or Abaddon
or Apollyon: his MUSES are the locusts or musical
performers in the book of revelation.
A. Ralph Johnson in
Instrumental Music, Sacred or Sinful.
Isaiah 25, Isa 25: Isaiah
Chapter 25: The branch of the terrible one is a song to be accompanied with instrumental
music.
2. Tom Burgess More
Review of Plutarch: if Psallo authorizes
"church music" it authorizes a homosexual gathering.
3. Tom
Burgess on Moralia confirms the
"Music-Heresy-Perversion" connection which has no
historical exception. 10/20/04
4. Tom
Burgess on John Chrysostom: are the
anti-instrumentalists ignorant rurals? 10/21/04 What
about Paul and Martin Luther and John Calvin and Zwingli
and--everyone who believed the Bible as authority.
5. Tom Burgess on
Kurfees versus Thayer and Grimm: Quotes from: G. C.
Brewer, A Medley on the Music Question, Gospel Advocate,
Nashville 1948. Burgess uses the same Krewson arguments.
LATEST 11/08/05
Charles Daily
Northwest College of the Bible Part One 11/30/04 .... Part One A .....Part Two .... THRESKIA or CHARISMATIC = perverted.
Milton Jones is the preaching minister for the
Northwest Church in Seattle, Washington. He also serves
as a professor at Puget Sound Christian College and on
the board of Christian Relief Fund where he focuses on
the care of AIDS orphans in Sub Sahara Africa. Milton
has authored eight books including his latest, The Other Side of the
Keyboard. He is married to Barbie Jones and has
two sons, Pat and Jeremy. The compelling narrative of
how God brought together the Northwest Church of Christ
and the Shoreline Christian Church to be one
congregation and how He blessed the merger.
This writer hired Milton Jones as a campus minister to the
University of Washington. Pickings were easier in a
Christian Church College. They, in fact, converted Milton
so that he is a DEFACTO member of the Christian church. He
unfairly manipulated the people to abandon the CREED IN
THE DEED under the Lawyer's ploy that the members would be
liable if brought up on charges of being SECTARIAN. After
driving away the older owners of the property his wife
became the "worship minister" and instruments were added
using the CHANGE AGENTS GRADUALISM beginning with a
'"musical worship team" replacing the Lord's Table.
This was the plow in
most "unity meetings":
When the Witty-Murch unity movement was before our
people, Bro. H. Leo Boles confronted Bro. Claude F.
Witty with six pertinent questions:
1. Are you not a self-appointed representative of the
churches of Christ?
2. Have you told Murch and his brethren there can be no
unity until he puts the organ aside and gives up the
missionary societies?
3. For union you say that both sides must move. Now what
will the churches of Christ have to give up?
4. What will they have to begin teaching that they are not
now teaching?
5. What will they have
to begin practicing that they are not now practicing?
What will they have to quit teaching and practicing in
order to effect this union?
6. The Christian
Church has gone off. It has organized measures to
'perpetuate the cause of division.' How can it come back
without abandoning these things? How can we 'go to them
till they abandon the things which caused the division?
His so-called success
story of BONDING the two groups is, like most of the
pseud-non instrumental side, is bonding of a confiscated
church of Christ with a Christian Church. Milton follows
the Tom Burgess - Victor Knowles quite violent attack on
the ANTI-instrumentalists. Consistent with the "musical
side" they violate every principle of logic, Bible
scholarship and the universal testimony associating
instrumental music with paganism. And yet, not in the vilest
pagan temple could the singers and musicians enter into
the holy precincts. The Levitical Warrior Musicians who made
NOISE and not MUSIC could not enter into the Holy Place as
typical of the body or church of Christ EVEN TO CLEAN OUT
THE GARBAGE.
An e-mail
from 2004 Tulsa Workout: "Ashamed October 12 2004,
5:47 PM
I am from the Tulsa
area, and attended the workshop for the first time this
past year. Mr. Lancaster was leading singing the night I
was there. All I can say is I actualy was embarrased by
the actions on stage. I can't for the life of me imagine
how our leaders seem to think they are more important
than they really are. People a Song leader aka worship
leader is not there for our amusement (entertainment) If
I wanted to be entertained I would go somewhere else. It
is a song leaders job to start the song and get the
CONGREGATION into an active worship. It seems like some
of these guys think we should just sit back and let them
perform. The dancing actualy made me blush in
embarasment. I actualy thought to myself Man I hope
nobody I know sees me here, and Man I'm glad I didn't
invite anyone to go with me to this. What a absolute
tragedy.
I'll take my small
congregation of singers over you and your praise team
any day of the week and twice (literally) on Sunday.
As for those of you
who have dealt with these problems on a daily basis. I'm
sorry for you, and I pray God gives you strength.
This will be as exciting
as PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING because everyone knows that it
is THEATER and both actors support the instrumental music
position. Sowing Discord is not a problem when you have
VISIONS or hear audible voices.
The
Stone Campbell Movement is another driving force of the Christian
churches to continue trying to suck up churches of Christ
using the bad lie that the MOVEMENTS were from the same
roots and the STONEITE movement related to witchcraft and
the Shouting Methodists should have PRIORITY over the
"weaker brothers."
J. F. Burnett in 1921 denies that Barton W. Stone joined the Disciples of
Christ. The so-called Stoneites never agreed with much
that the Campbellites or Reformers or Disciples or
churches of Christ believed.
January
2, 2006 Wade Hodges
Wade Hodges: Every year thousands of
folks from Acapella
Churches
of Christ and a few from Independent Christian Churches
gather at the Tulsa Fairgrounds for the Tulsa
International Soul-Winning Workshop. Plans are well
underway for the 2006 Workshop, which will take place on
March 23rd thru the 25th.
Here is why about half
of the OWNERS flee when the MUSICAL TEAMS begin performing
a capela which is Not connected to the approved example of
Jesus or the direct commands of Paul
The word A capella is
a PREDJUICED WORD. A capella has nothing to do with the
simple singing or SPEAKING the Word one to another. The
Pope brought a Musical Worship Team of castratos when he
returned from his "Babylonian Captivity." They were used
in the Sistine Chapel where it was unlawful (and
unscriptural) for the official Mass to use musical
instruments. If it would be an insult to the Pope why
wouldn't it be an insult to Jesus Christ who said of the
ones and twos--with no human mediators in song and
sermons--come REST, come learn of Me. The Catholic never
did worship with "congregational singing and instrumental
accompany" and the Catholic Encyclopedia defends the role
of congregational singing as being te ideal.
The Look to the Hills
conference this year used an "expert" to try to prove that
mimesis was NOT proof of sexual disfunction. However, all
of the evidence proves that it is:
"The development both
of religion and of the arts can be traced back in a continuous line
to the hunting era. The group ritual of the primeval tribesmen were the origin not only
of all religious ceremonial, but also of the drama and of poetry and music, while magic gave birth to the
visual arts."
"Awed by the
mysteries of his own spirit no less than by those of
nature, primitive man was likely to attribute to divine influence
any abnormal emotional
state,
whether above or below the usual level. Medicine men
customarily went into states of trance in which they were believed to be in
communication with the gods, and many tribes
supposed lunatics and sexual
deviants to be
divinely possessed. (Parkes, Henry Bamford,
On Gods and Men, p. 30).
"Of particular
interest is the way that early modern playwrights, music theorists, and theater apologists addressed this conflated language of the "enemy," by echoing the same connections between
sexuality and playing found in the most virulent
antitheatrical tracts. "As this paper will demonstrate,
by "playing" with the conflated
language, these writers defended their art, justifying their
existence in a society that was both seduced and repulsed by them. By claiming the polemical
antitheatrical language, these players
escaped from the ideological margins to which their opponents
had tried
to relegate them.
Using the artifices
of mimesis
(imitation) and comedy they pointed out and--
- -defused their
opponents' anxieties about music, theater, and
sexuality,
creating a space for players in the cultural mainstream."
"The papacy also continued the
practice of creating castratos (boys castrated before
puberty to keep their singing voices high-pitched) for their own
entertainment, long after it had fallen in disfavor
throughout Italy."
"Into this artificial
world came the castrati, who had first gained a place in Italian churches for their 'angelic'
voices. Castratos are said to have been the world's first superstars, because of the great sums paid to them for
their singing, and scheduled engagements that took them to cities
across Europe, to please their enthusiastic followers.
"How can we hear their
music today, since we have no more castratos to listen to? Well, during
the current
renaissance in Baroque music, some castrato roles have
been carefully recreated by counter-tenors also known as male altos or sopranos. Other musici
parts are sung
by women
who use a natural alto or soprano range, but adopt a
style which attempts to make the music sound appropriately
'masculine', at least for male roles. There is much debate as
to which is better--but keeping in mind the fact that
most early composers wrote 'trouser' roles for women to sing, and
that castratos frequently presented
women's roles, especially in their youth, it would seem
that gender
stretching is an original part of this music, and perhaps one reason
for its continuing dramatic impact."
"Allegory and metaphor elevated the art over the
humdrum of life. The Baroque belittled theatrical realism and dramatic truth as commonplace. It created
the castrato, a creature without sex
but with a heavenly
voice instead. It saw the emergence of virtuosity which
transported the listener into a world of marvels.
The Baroque invented sentimental shepherds and shepherdesses
...........with salon manners and salon language.
It created melodies with virtuoso ornaments and opera
........... became a theatre in which singing replaced
ordinary speech.
It invented the wig and female knickers with
flounce, lace and ribbons, all of which was to imbue reality with a more poetic character. It created the gallant style and the theory of
affections, which isolated and catalogued human
emotions and feelings. The opera was the most eloquent
manifesto of the escape from reality into a better
world.
The ZOE group OUTED
like all a capella fellas brought in an expert to
relieve their fears about the PLATONIC FALLACY. Of
course, Plato and all literate writers knew that all of
the theatrical (hypocritical) arts were MANNED by boys
UNmanned.
You can tell by the
"warriors" on the a capella side that this MATCH HAS
BEEN THROWN:
Wade Hodges: Our theme is "For the Good of the World, To the Glory of God." Our
list of confirmed speakers includes Rick Atchley,
Chuck Booher, Mike Cope, Allan Dunbar, Max Lucado, Marvin Phillips, Bob Russell, and Jeff Walling.
Pray tell how will the
world profit if the new MISSIONARY SOCIETY gets spinning
to promote religionism rather than make DISCIPLES who NEED
NO ONE TO TEACH THEM if the preacher preaches "that which
has been preached?"
ADDED NOTES: "As early as 1882, Sewell and Harding were
urging that a separation be brought about to identify that part of the
Christian Church fellowship which supported the organ and the society. Lipscomb, at the time,
rebuffed his brethren who called for such division. He
sought no compromise, but hoped that the church would
not suffer division."
"By 1897, Lipscomb was
reconciled to the fact that division had already occurred and the supporters of the
innovations would be satisfied with nothing less than a
complete
take-over of the churches... (Adron Doran, J.E.Choate, The
Christian Scholar, p. 59
That was the same scam
tried in 1909 when the Disciples
Denomination published their AIMS for everyone--that they all may be one.
Wade Hodges: A highlight of this year's
workshop will be special evening sessions featuring tag-team keynotes by preachers from Acapella Churches of
Christ
and Independent Christian Churches. I'm especially
looking forward to the Friday night keynote when Max Lucado and Bob
Russell
will speak together.
This will be a SHAM battle because Max Lucado does not
represent churches of Christ and holds the same badly
informed view of instrumental music. Which side wins? One
suspects that the side the leaders of the workshop have
PRE PLANNED.
When the Witty-Murch unity movement was before our
people, Bro. H. Leo Boles confronted Bro. Claude F. Witty
with six pertinent questions:
1. Are you not a self-appointed representative of the churches of Christ?
Max Lucado received a vision to remove the name of CHRIST and to add instrumental music. At first it was to be soft
strings in an out of the way room. Now, it is fully
istrumental and I understand the SABBATARIAN worship
(Saturn=666) is Rock and Roll which has to be controlled.
The argument was the typical fiction inherited from
Farmer's Branch which perverted every Biblical musical
term and name of instrument. However, that doesn't matter
in the postmodern, post Christendom era. However, it is a
fact that his VISION came from Farmer's Branch White paper
which this writer was dared to refute. Here is
how Max Lucado's vision contradict all facts.
Wade Hodges: One hundred years ago, Acapella Churches of
Christ
and Independent Christian Churches were officially recognized
as two
separate "tribes."
I believe that the Disciples denomination had been in
operation for many years. It is a fact that no one was so
naive as to use the PSALLO word as authority for music
until the year 1878. It was Garrisons boast to "take the
south for the society within 5 years." That meant a flull
fledge denomination intended to include ALL CHRISTENDOM
with even children being paid members.
THERE HAD NEVER BEEN ANY
CONNECTION BETWEEN THE STONEITES OUT OF CANE RIDGE AND THE
REFORMERS DEVOTED TO THE WORD AND NOT TO RITUALS. One of
those was the Shouting
Methodists
as an ACT of worship. My wife came out of that area
as a Pilgrim Holiness who could never PRAY THROUGH.
THE SOCIETY TRIED TO
CLAIM EVERYONE AS LIFE MEMBERS OBLIGATED TO BUY ALL OF
THEIR RESOURCES FROM THEM.
THE CENSUS TAKER KNEW
THERE WAS NO WAY FOR THEM TO CLAIM CHURCHES OF CHRIST
WHICH WERE RADICALLY DIFFERENT
A SEPARATE CENSUS WAS
TAKEN TO EXCLUDE CHURCHES OF CHRIST.
THIS IS WHAT CHURCHES OF
CHRIST REFUSED TO JOIN
THE MOVEMENT WAS
BIRTHED WITH THE INTENTION OF A WORLD-WIDE INSTITUTION
TO INCLUDE "ALL OF CHRISTENDOM"
You can see below
that the OFFICIAL counting was not recognized until
the INSTITUTION described above had been INSTITUTED.
ADDED NOTES: Postscript:
"Dr. Herman Norton,
author of Tennessee Christians, tells the story about
the first division usually identified with
the U.S. Religious Census of 1906. A preacher by the
name of A.
I. Myhr came to Tennessee to work for the
"organized" missionary societies to win over Tennessee
churches of Christ into the ranks of the "organ" and "society" Christian
Church. Myhr
worked for twenty years (I890-1910) with this one objective in mind. He
was supported by the editors of the Christian Standard and the Christian Evangelist.
At the time of his
resignation as Secretary of the Tennessee Missionary
Society
in 1910, he had not won over a single church of Christ in
Nashville and met with poor success in both
Middle and West Tennessee.
The United States
Religious Census officially recognized that two Restoration
churches did in fact exist in the 1910 publication.
"Dr. Norton wrote in
the Tennessee Christians that during the twenty-year
effort in Tennessee, Myhr had succeeded in "engendering a bitter
partisan spirit in almost every congregation in the
state."
And he added, "where there had been one communion, admittedly in discord,
when he arrived in the state,
there were now two
separate and distinct bodies with no meaningful
communication between them" (Tennessee
Christians, p. 123).
"When Dr. Shelly
came to Nashville some twelve or so years ago, the
churches of Christ were at peace. The churches
cooperated in many good works. Goodwill prevailed on
every hand. This is, sadly, no longer true!"
MANY WHO WERE
INSTRUMENTAL REMAINED IN THE DENOMINATION.
HOWEVER, the NACC
began in 1927 as a convention for vocational Christian
leaders. Since the 1960s, the NACC has been an annual
four-day summer convention attracting many vocational
and non-vocational Christian leaders and their families.
In recent years, the convention has drawn approximately
10,000-15,000 people.
The identifier
churches of Christ has been taken and well known to
EXCLUDE the instrument.
Disciples
of Christ Ultimately, these New Testament
churches are very similar to the Churches of Christ.
The Disciples of Christ are more liberal, however.
Their second break from the
Christian Church/churches of Christ in 1968 was due to the fact
that they wanted to become more unified and centralized again. They have moved back
to a general stream of Protestantism and now
consider themselves a denomination. They
have a general assembly that meets every two years
demonstrating a profound difference from both the
Church of Christ and the Christian Churches/churches
of Christ. In fact, there are many overlappings
which make it difficult to drawn distinct lines
between the three main divisions of the Restoration
Movement.
THEY CONFISCATED
THE NAME Christian
Church/churches of Christ which was birthed to include
INSTRUMENTAL churches which still had the name CHURCH OF CHRIST on their sign.
This was then and
is used now as an effort to insinuate that there is any
connection with those already identified as "the
churches of Christ." This forced many congregations to
identify themselves as The Church of Christ - Non
Instrumental.
The Stoneite group
which began in the dark forests of Cane Ridge, in bourbon county, was built
on the foundation of witchcraft which had oozed out of the
First Great American Awakening and that from Salem
Witchcraft. This is strikingly similar to "christian" DEVIL WORSHIP in fairly modern Iraq.
"The prophets of God
were not like the raving Pythoness of heathen temples, nor are the saints of God
converted into whirling dervishes by an influence which is
the author. There can be little doubt that Paul would
have severely reprobated such scenes as frequently
occurred during the revival of which we are speaking.
"He would have said
to the people substantially what he said to the
Corinthians. If any unbeliever or ignorant man come to
your assemblies and hears one shouting in ecstasy, and another howling in anguish; if he sees some
falling, some jumping, some lying in convulsions,
others in trances, will he not say ye are mad?" (Hodge, History
Presbyterian Church quoted in Barton W. Stones'
Biography, p. 368, 369)
The Stoneite churches in the beginning had no distinct connection to the Reformers which has John Calvin to think for speaking
where the Bible speaks, the name CHURCH OF CHRIST, firing
of non Bible teaching clergy and many other things he
called his Restoration
Movement.
Conkin notes that--
"This primitivism had
great appeal among lay people and continued as a central
motif of the later Restoraion churches. Otherwise, it is
misleading to refer to these New
Light churches as predecessoors of the later
Christian-Disciples movement, for in so many ways,
beginning with the explosive conversions and the
physical exercises and the spiritual gifts, the first
New Light churches were closer to later Pentecostals than to contemporary
Disciples or the Churches of Christ." (Conkin, p. 132)
"Until 1820 the small Christian movement
grew slowly, with its greatest strength in Ohio and
Kentucky, but with a scattering of small congregations
in Tennessee and Indiana.... He (Stone) early became a
baptist but would not make proper baptism a condition of
membership.
But by 1820 the movement was
clearly baptist, and Stone was able to persuade several small Baptist associations to
affiliate with Christian, no major doctrines, but
only the issue of names, separated many freewill
Baptists from Stone.
By 1820, as Stone indulged
in more doctrinal controversies with Presbyterian
critics, he elaborated a rather consistent free-will,
or complete atonement, profile of beliefs, with a
unique conception of faith. He used the word faith for
simple belief in the gospel message." (Conkin, p. 146)
While some congregations agreed to
forget doctrine and meet in unity which Stone put over
truth the was never any roots or connections between the
two groups.
The Stoneite preacher drifted into the Churches of Christ, most christian churches in Kentucky converted and
only slowly did Stone come to accept Campbell's views. At
the beginning there was no difference between the
Stoneites and the Baptists but the presumed resting on the
Bible for faith and practice. However, this so called CENI
principle is articulated in the Bible and was accepted by
most church fathers and founders of denominations.
The Disciples tried to "count" the
churches of Christ but an honest census man knew better.
Therefore, the only thing that happened in 1906 was that
churches of Christ refused to be counted just as would the
Presbyterians and ALL OF CHRISTENDOM which they wanted to
count.
Wade Hodges: Since then, we've traveled
in the same
direction,
but walked down separate paths that have rarely
intersected. After many years of prayer and
conversation, there is a realization among a growing
number from both tribes that We may worship differently,
but we worship the same God. Our congregations may not
be cookie-cutter replications of each other, but we are
still committed to the same mission. Our evening
co-keynotes are one way we're acknowledging and
celebrating the unity that already exists between our two
tribes.
In the same DIRECTION?
Not quite. The movement the churches of Christ refused to
be DRAFTED INTO because it had not theological connection
and no urge to joine a denomination, became the Disciples
of Christ denomination with the "conservatives" left out
in the cold the RESTRUCT continued the fragmentation all
based on no respect for the Word.
"W. T. Moore calls
attention to an important result of the union which
should not be overlooked: 'From the Campbellian point of
view this
union had its drawbacks. At the time it was consummated the
'Reformers' were practically sweeping everything before them in the Baptist
churches of Kentucky, Ohio, and other places where the
'Christians' had attained considerable influence.
But the union
seriously affected the trend of the Baptist churches toward the
Reformatory movement. Many of those who had sympathy
with the Reformation utterly refused to become associated
with a movement which had coalesced with Unitarians and Pedobaptists.' This charge was false,
but it had the semblance of truth, and, for a time, it
did much injury." (Davis, M. M., Restoration Movement
in the 19th Century, p. 157).
By the time of the
"union" Samuel Rogers' notes that the UNION was in fact the
demise of the Stoneite Movement:
"Then followed a wave
of 'Campbellism' that swept the Christians off their
feet, and aggregated about eight thousand accessions to
the Disciples.
No Christian
churches long survived in Tennessee, their cause was
ruined in Kentucky and never has regained its former
strength or prestige.
Of the southern Ohio
Christians a majority of the preachers embraced
Campbellism prior to 1837, and only about one thousand church members
remained." (Jenning, Walter W., Origin and Early
History of the Disciples of Christ, p. 197, Standard).
Churches of Christ no
more SPLIT OFF from this group than they SPLIT OFF from
the Presbyterians. Here is what they rejected and what the
New Missionar Society pushing the MISSIONAL church with
APOSTLES and PROPETS will try to do.
Maintaining
Unity
Bob Russell -- Christian Church will
defend INSTRUMENTAL
MUSIC
Max Lucado
-- had vision to remove CHRIST and add INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC.
They both use the
same collection of false information to prove their
point.
After all, the TAG
TEAM are both on the same side!
Watch which end the
SMOKE comes out and you will know that Wade Hodges is
not Navigating the Winds of Change but BLOWING the winds
of change. The Agenda of the Tulsa Soul-Selling Working
is visible for all to see.
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