Rubel
Shelly of Woodmont
Hills: I want both to affirm
the value and meaning of worship to the Lord and help to direct you in an
experience of it.
Lipscomb:
Follow
Up to Re-Visioning: I Saw
the Lord: The Vision of God in Isaiah at
Lipscomb.
Jesus
said
that worship is in THE NEW PLACE of the human SPIRIT which
is the
human MIND. Worship happens IN TRUTH according to Paul
when we Teach
that which has been taught or give heed to the inspired
Word.
ALL external worship is
PAGAN and
Perverted. See
the
charismatic connection
A Cappella Worship
Leader
Aquinas,
Thomas Praise Singing.
Praise Songs as
Christian Voodoo
Ancient Pagan
Praise Leader
Music as
Brainwashing
Latter
Rain, praise teams, praise singing,
charismatic
Praise
Worship Ploughs the Ground Hosea
10:ll
Rubel
Shelly Praise and Thanksgiving YOU
ARE
HERE
Rubel Shelly
Psalm 106
See
how CHARISMATIC music was born of sodomy
preferably in the form of Pederasty.
See
that ZOE is Eos or Helios or Aphrodite or
Lucifer: the singing and harp-playing prostitute.
See how it
works out when the "children and
effeminate rule over you."
See
more notes on a cappella.
See Edward
Fudge on A Cappella
Great Themes of the Bible (#17-Praise
and
Thanksgiving)
Excuse
Me! Musical worship
teams are claimed to have power to move the worshiper into
the
presence of God. This is a brave claim that they are
mediators
between the paying audience and God! The presumed power to
direct
people into a worship experience is also a claim to be the
mediators.
Worship is not in the flesh but in the spirit. Therefore, no
one can
get into our spirit or mind (nous) as we meet God as pure or
Holy
Spirit in the holy place (naos).
Let's
assume that
you and some friends who have never heard about Jesus
Christ are
meeting in your home for coffee. A knock on the door and
you are
absolutely certain that the man who says that He is Jesus
is really
Jesus.
Now,
what do you do? Oh! I
know. You blow the pitchpipe and begin singing a
sentimental, often
erotic "praise song" which you have composed and which is
supposed to
work magic on God and the "audience."
No,
you don't do that unless
you are a blasphemer. What you do, is to "praise" Jesus by
telling
your friends who Jesus is and what He has done in words
which He
inspired as "the Spirit of Christ" in the Bible.
A
"praise ritual" is crying
"Lord, Lord" or "Ab, Ab" and try to "cast out demons" by
what was
known as "musical prophesying." If you do that then God is
going to
say: "I don't even know who you are."
Before
we get to this
conversion of church from "school of the Bible" to worshp
center we
need to understand a few things. The Britannica speaks of
the most
ancient view that priests and magicians make the same claim.
This is
why Jesus died to give each individual the right to "come
boldly
before the throne" without a human mediator:
"Magicians are often confused with priests, shamans, and prophets, mainly because many of
these
practitioners'
activities include acts
that are traditionally defined as "magical"; i.e., while
essentially
they are regarded as
intermediaries between men and gods or
spirits,
in the sense of acting in a direct
personal relationship, some of their acts are also
impersonal or
"magical."
........... It
is often, perhaps usually, impossible
clearly to distinguish between priests and magicians;
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see How Men Mediate With Psychology
Catholicism
acknowledges
restoring the priesthood and the Musical Levites and music
"as
worship" along with other elements from "paganism in
general."
Furthermore the eucharist was made into a magical ceremony
as worship
was removed from the personal spirit into set places at set
times
which outlawed that for which Jesus died:
"A priest
+
became the principal
celebrant of the Eucharist. In this capacity, as well as
by hearing
confession and granting absolution, the priest
eventually assumed the role of the church's chief representative of
God
to the people. The
development of eucharistic theology resulted in a further
emphasis of
the priest's supernatural powers
and qualities.
"The
primary role
of the priest is that of the ritual expert, the one who has a
special and
sometimes secret
knowledge of the techniques
of
worship,
including incantations, prayers, sacrificial
acts, songs, and other
acts
that are believed to bridge
the separation
between the divine or sacred and the
profane realms.
The priest gains such
knowledge through the
institution known as the priesthood, which may be composed
of various groups
or guilds
devoted to all or only a few aspects of the priestly craft +
However, "Among Protestants the
doctrine of the
priesthood of all
believers
(i.e., all
believers have direct access to God) militates generally
against
strong anticlerical
tendencies
within their
own ranks. In Islam there is, technically, no priesthood,
though
there are local spiritual and community leaders, such as
the imam,
the mullah, the mufti, the qadi, and others."
Separating
"praise teams" from
the "audience" is a rejection of Christ's repudiating of
"the doctors
of the Law, Pharisees and Scribes."
The
claim of mediating
powers in
prayer, music
or worship
in general is
cutting the church free
from the sole mediating and salvatory work of Lord Jesus
Christ Who
had only One Incarnation. We
have posted a review of Dallas
Burdette which
affirms the power
of
PRAISE to accomplish God's WORK.
The
American
Restoration Movement broke with organizational or
institutional churches by depending upon Scripture.
That being true, there was no room for local operators in any sense. Those
once "pastors" became
Evangelists or teachers and had no supernatural
authority with God that all of
the members did
not have. We believe that Campbell was critical of the
magicians and not
evangelists.
While
his comments may not
represent the total movement, or necessarily the opinion
he always
held, the following quotation clearly shows that Alexander
Campbell saw the need
for a total restoration movement back
to the Biblical model of the church. He was prophetic of
the present
apostasy in much of the Restoration Movement.
The
Restoration Movement
preachers saw themselves as evangelists. Even in a "located"
sense
they were ministers or servants of the flock. However,
within the
protestant churches the "preacher" was pastor or the head of
the
congregation who received his commission from denominational
headquarters. Of those, Campbell demands:
"Give
money
to make poor
pious youths learned clergy, or vain
pretenders to erudition; and they pray that they may
preach to you;
yes, and pay
them
too.
Was there ever
such a craft
as priestcraft? No, it is the
craftiest of all crafts.
It is so
crafty that it obtains by its craft the means to make
craftsmen, and
then it makes the deluded support them!" (Campbell,
Alexander,
Christian Baptist, Dec. 1, 1823, Vol. 1, p. 91).
"Money
is of vital
consequence
in the kingdom of the clergy. Without it a clergyman
could not be
made, nor a congregation supplied with a 'faithful
pastor.' O Mammon,
thou
wonder-working god!"
(Ibid., p. 124).
"'Will
you,' said an honest
inquirer, 'allow the clergy no salary at all? Will you
not allow the
poorer class of the clergy a decent little competence?'
I replied I have no
allowances to
make. Let
them have what the Lord has allowed them. 'How much is
that?' said
he, Just
nothing at
all,
said I. A church
constituted upon New Testament principles, having its
own bishop or
bishops, or, as sometimes called, elders, will not, and ought
not to suffer them to be in want of any thing necessary,
provided
they labor in word and doctrine, and provided also, they
are
ensamples to the flock in industry, disinterestedness,
humility,
hospitality, and charity to the poor. Such bishops will now be esteemed
very highly in love for their
words sake; but especially those who, by their own hands, minister not only to
their own wants, but also to
the wants of their brethren." (Ibid, p. 140).
"That
any man is to be paid
at
all for preaching, i.e. making sermons and pronouncing
them; or that
any man is to be hired for a stipulated sum to preach
and pray, and
expound scripture, by the day, month, or year, I believe to be a relic
of
popery."
(Ibid., Vol.
3, p. 185).
"Our
Elder labors with his
own
hands, that he may live honestly..." (Vol. 5, p. 163).
"...
our elders labor... for their support, and are not
burdensome to the
church; but in case of need..." (Vol, 5, p. 95).
The
present apostasy is too
bad
for honest evangelists who would love to preach the
gospel.
The
recent shift to "worship
as
the role of the church." However, the Bible--once held
by the
changers to be inspired insisted that:
Unto
me, who am
less than the least of all saints, is this grace given,
that I should preach among the
Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ; Eph 3:8
And
to make
all
men
see what is the
fellowship of the mystery, which from the
beginning of the world
hath been hid in
God,
who created all
things by Jesus Christ: Eph 3:9
To
the intent that
now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly
places might
be known
by the
church the manifold wisdom of God, Eph 3:10
Of
course, the ancient view
that "praise" has some kind of mediating or magical power
demands the
use of both people (called "the idolatry of talent" by one
writer)
and certain instruments which "multiply" the power of the
praise with
God. The test of the effect is measured by how much
excitement we
create: some hurtful things can put a smile on your face.
The
"familiar spirit" of the
witch of Endor was an old water or wine skin. It was
hollow and
echoed like the booms and clangs of 1 Cor 13. The
hucksters claimed
that the voice from the instrument or the "idolatry of
talent" was
the voice of the gods and "bringing the worshipers into
the presence
of God."
Of
ceremonial objects +:
These
objects thus
can be mediatory devices to contact the divine world,
........... as,
for example, the drums of shamans (religious personages
........... with healing
and psychic-transformation powers).
........... Conversely,
they can be mediatory devices used by a god
........... or
other supernatural being to relate to
man in the profane realm.
"They
may also be used to ensure that a
chief
or sovereign of a tribe
or nation
........... achieves, and is recognized
to have,
...........
........... the
status
of divinity in cultic or
community ceremonies.
........... Of
such a nature may be phallic cults.
Military,
Animal Burning
and
Forced Labor "music."
Musical
worship teams"
including the Levitical Musical Worship teams were under
the king and the commanders
of the army:
David,
together
with the commanders
of
the army,
set apart
some of the sons of Asaph, Heman and Jeduthun for the
ministry of prophesying, accompanied by harps,
lyres and
cymbals. Here is
the list of the men who performed this service: 1
Chr.25:1
This
was the "service" of
a
secular, military kingdom and was not worship in the
true
system:
Abodah
(h5656) ab-o-daw'; or abowdah ab-o-daw'; from 5647; work
of any kind:
- act, bondage/ bondservant, effect, labour,
ministering (-try), office, service (-ile, -itude),
tillage, use,
work, wrought
Abad
(h5647) aw-bad'; a prim. root; to work (in any sense);
by impl. to
serve, till, (caus.) enslave, etc.: - be, keep in bondage, be bondmen, bond-service, compel, do, dress,
ear, execute, / husbandman, keep, labour (-ing
man), bring to pass,
(cause to,
make to) serve (-ing, self), (be, become) servant (-s), do (use) service,
till (-er), transgress [from
margin], (set a) work, be wrought, worshipper.
Of
building the temple or
overseeing the burning of thousands of animal carcasses
the
"musicians" blew dozens of trumpets during animal burning
or they
panicked the enemy into retreat or they drove even
Israelites into
building the Temple. The slave-driving musicians of the
river boats
were not there for pleasure or worship:
And
the men did
the work
faithfully: and the overseers of them were Jahath and
Obadiah, the Levites, of the sons of Merari;
and Zechariah and Meshullam,
of the sons of the Kohathites, to set it forward; and other of the
Levites, all that could skill of instruments of
musick.
2 Chr
34:12
Nacach
(h5329) naw-tsakh'; a prim. root; prop. to glitter from afar, i. e. to be
eminent (as a superintendent, espec. of the Temple services and its
music);
also
(as denom.
from 5331), to be permanent: - excel,
chief musician (singer), oversee
(-r), set
forward.
The
African Pattern
adapted
to "praise singing."
Singing
erotic praise
songs
and hand-clapping music is the tyrant's method of
"getting more work"
out of the slaves:
"The transfer of these West African tribal
traditions to
the slave fields,
railways, and rivers of the southern U.S. was
of advantage to oppressed and oppressor alike,
........... the slave obviously taking solace in the cultural
memory
of his
own collective past,
...........
........... the slaveowner
encouraging work songs
in the
...........
........... same spirit
as an infantry
general
might
approve of military
bands--
...........
........... for the stimulus
they gave to work rate.
Many of the early
examples of
primitive vocal jazz relate closely to the labours
being performed,
and the content of the lyrics is a reminder that not
only the cotton
plantations but also the levees and railroads of the Deep
South were created and maintained by slave
labour.
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The
"musicians" were sounders
and were called overseers or excellers and even drove the
slaves
while building the Temple into which God would not go.
Therefore,
they were agents of the king as civil power and not of
God.
The
praise craze with or
without instruments is asssuredly the sign of the end
times when
Jesus will cast many out of the church. The musicians and
soothsayers
or magicians will be in bed with one another:
Then
a mighty angel
picked up a boulder the size of a large millstone and
threw it into
the sea, and said: "With such violence the great city of
Babylon will
be thrown down, never to be found again. Revelation
18:21
The music of harpists and musicians
(The 9 Muses in the classics, minstrels), flute
players
and trumpeters, will never be heard in
you again. No
workman
(professionals or "technician" or craftsman) of any trade will ever be found in
you again. The sound of a
millstone will never be heard in you again. Revelation
18:22
("Grinders" in Hebrew is equivalent to concubine.)
The
9 muses also
honored
Apollo or Abaddon or Apollyon at the Oracle at
Delphi.
Jesus
knew that the noisey
flute players were magicians, soothsayers. They were
trying to make
contact with
the demon of the dead girl to appease her. However,
Jesus
"cast
them
out more or lest
violently."
When
Jesus entered
the ruler's house and saw the flute players
and the noisy
crowd,
Mt.9:23
........... he
said, "Go away. The girl is not dead
but asleep." But they laughed at him Mt. 9:24
The
clear implication was
that,
like harps in "heaven," once the people were dead
it would be ok to play them because they had no
earthly role to play because--
The light of a lamp
(Word of Christ Mt. 5457) will never
shine in you again. The voice of bridegroom (Jesus) and bride (young, veiled
women) will never be heard in you again. Your merchants (traveling men, book
sellers, attempting experience) were the world's
great men (grandees). By
your magic spell all the nations
were led
astray.
Revelation
18:23
Led
astray is from the
Greek:
Planao
(g4105) plan-ah'-o; from 4106; to (prop. cause to) roam
(from safety,
truth, or virtue): - go astray, deceive, err, seduce,
wander, be out
of the way.
Plane (g4106) plan'-ay; fem.
of 4108 (as
abstr.); obj. fraudulence; subj. a straying from orthodoxy or piety: - deceit, to
deceive, delusion, error.
These
were the "roving
stars"
or planets defined as
clouds without
water. In Jude, quoting the book of Enoch, these were
the agents of
Satan who caused the first fall outside the garden by
mixed-sex
choirs, instruments and homosexuality which is the
nature of
Lucifer.
Magic
or sorcery was often a drug
induced along with a magical
incantation or a song.
Today that could be perfumed men and
women, incense or flowers:
Pharmakeia (g5331) far-mak-i'-ah;
from 5332;
medication
("pharmacy"), i.e. (by extens.) magic
(lit. or fig.): - sorcery, witchcraft.
Pharmakeus (g5332) far-mak-yoos';
from
pharmakoån , (a
drug, i.e. spell- giving potion); a druggist
("pharmacist") or
poisoner, i.e. (by extens.) a magician: - sorcerer
Music
of all forms is now
that
secret drug inducer. Make
you feel good? Of course.
Morphine make you feel good when you are
passing out from pain? You betcha. However, the hangover
by Sunday
night will allow you to attend services "disguised as
empty pews" and
practices in the marketplace will be condoned by
forgiveness in the
holy place.
True
converts from
magic or
sorcery:
A
number who had practiced
sorcery
brought their
scrolls (bibles) together and burned them publicly. When
they
calculated the value of the scrolls,
the total came to fifty thousand drachmas. Acts
19:19
Periergos (g4021) per-ee'-er-gos;
from 4012 and
2041; working
all
around,
i.e. officious
(meddlesome, neut. plur. magic): -
busybody, curious
arts.
These
books, like the magical
books peddled in church these days, were worth 50,000 days
work. Yet,
true converts burned them and quit using other magical
scrolls --
which at times claim
equal
authority with the Bible.
In
the end, the Babylonian form
of religion will so overwhelm the world that there will be
only a
tiny remnant: and that remnant persecuted. See
a perfect description
of the first Babylonian religion where
Nimrod also carried along a band of female musicians. This
was one
way of keeping the other males out of the turf of the Alpha
male.
Because
David's prophesiers
were not true prophets we must understand this civil-state
connection
to mean that their music and instruments were believed and
claimed to
have magical powers. Quite often the praise was not directed
to God
but to the king who was the "agent" of the gods.
All
of the church historians of
note saw the excitement effect created by musical as madness
where
anyone sexually or emotionally abnormal was believed to be
"possessed
by the gods." Just spinning around, getting dizzy and puking
on the
dance team proved that you were "inspired."
Arnobius writing (A.D. 297-303)
Ridicules instrumental music
in worship and Charismatic Worship as idolatrous.
In
a footnote on the first
page
of Book I the editor notes that-- arnobius, instrumental
music in worship,
The
words insanir,
m
bacchari,
refer to the
appearance of the ancient seers
when under the influence of the deity. The meaning is,
that they make
their asserverations with all the confidence of a seer
when filled, as he pretended,
with the
influence of the
god."
(Arnibious,
Ante-Nicene, VI, p. 413)
Why
Slave-Driving
(emotion-driven) Overseers
must Excel in the Service.
He
notes that it is childish that the gods of the
pagans were not
interested in heavenly things but with the courser things of earth.
However, he is aware that the
professional religionists devised the myths and fables to
fool
people.
They felt this
need because "we need to do something about the falling attendance."
"Nay,
rather, to
speak out more truly, the augurs,
the dream
interpreters, the soothsayers, the prophets,
and the priestlings, ever vain, have devised these fables; for they,
........... fearing that their own arts be brought to nought, and
........... that
they may extort but scanty
contributions from the devotees, now few and infrequent,
whenever
they have found
you to
be willing that their craft
should come into disrepute,
........... cry
aloud, the Gods are neglected, and
........... in the temples there is
now a very thin attendance.
Former
ceremonies are exposed to derision, and the
time-honoured rites
of institutions once
sacred
have sunk before
the superstitions of new
religions.
And
men--a senseless
race--being unable, from their inborn blindness, to see even that which
is placed in open light,
........... dare
to assert in their frenzy
........... what
you in your sane mind do not
blush to believe.
........... (Arnobius
Against the Heathen,
Ante-Nicene Fathers, VI, p. 418)
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Contra
Rubel Shelly -- The
Bible -- There is no command, example, necessary inference
or scrap
of evidence that praise, as a legalistic, works-oriented
act, has any
power to get one into the presence of God for some kind of
spiritual
experience.
Connected
to the new praise
rituals is a song book which inculcates charismatic and
Catholic
views.
One
should not be surprised,
nor even disturbed, because if we understand the end times
of
Revelation 18 this is a more certain sign that earthquakes.
The
following is commentary on
the views held by Rubel Shelly and others which are widely
promoted
among churches of Christ along with charismatic groups.
Furthermore,
these views have sowed bushels of discord and reaped wagon
loads of
conflict as the older members who bought the building are
chased out
by "children piping hoping to get Jesus to dance."
Therefore,
we don't respond to
the psychological pressure of being labeled "unloving" for
placing
the crooked stick of "superstitious praise" alongside the
Biblical
view of church as school: Christianity is not a religion but
a
discipline. Therefore, it has no acts of worship which
produces
magical effects with the worshipers or with God. So, don't
pay for
it.
Great Themes of the Bible (#17-Praise
and
Thanksgiving)
Rubel
Shelly:
"Praise
the
LORD. Give thanks to the LORD, for he is good;
his love endures
forever."
One
of the five themes our church affirms
in
its Mission
Statement is authentic
and meaningful worship. Like
Isaiah,
we don't know who we are or what we should do until
we see the Lord -- high
and
lifted up! (Isa. 6:1ff)
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Throughout
the
Bible, the church fathers
and all denomination founders knew who they were just by
looking in
the mirror or checking their birth certificate. They did go
through
the "finding themselves' imagined by moderns and post
moderns.
Furthermore, they all understood what to do simply by
reading the
word and meditating on it and confirming their lives to it.
Both authentic and meaningful worship takes place in
the human spirit
or mind as
it gives heed to the Word of Christ which is Spirit and
Life (John
6:63)
You
cannot participage in
that unless we are both speaking the word one to another
and thereby
praise God in the spirit.
Sermonizing
by "taking
liberties" may work but it does not teach the whole truth.
Note what
the Psalm really says:
PRAISE
ye the Lord.
O give thanks unto the Lord; for he is good: for his
mercy endureth
for ever. Psalm 106:1
Asks
the
Question:
Who can
utter the mighty acts of the Lord? who can shew forth
all his praise? Psalm 106:2
Gives
the
Answer: Blessed are they that
keep judgment, and
he that doeth righteousness at all times. Psalm 106:3
First,
note that the Psalmist
is not defining a legalistic
act of collective worship.
We praise God whenever and only to the
extent that we tell His story using His words.
Next,
please do read the rest of Psalm
106. It tells the story of
the fatal
musical
idolatry at Mount Sinai
when Israel "rose up to play." It is not being unfair to
say that
Rubel Shelly claims the Exodus as "a pattern for Christian
worship
and community." The Bible does not agree.
A
"saved" person does not
lament their lostness:
Remember
me, O
Lord, with the favour that thou bearest unto thy people:
O visit me
with thy salvation; Psalm 106:4
That
I may see the
good of thy chosen, that I may rejoice in the gladness
of thy nation,
that I may glory with thine inheritance. Psalm 106:5
We
have sinned with our
fathers,
we have
committed iniquity, we have done wickedly. Psalm 106:6
Our
fathers understood not thy
wonders in Egypt; they
remembered not the multitude of thy mercies; but provoked him at
the
sea,
even at the Red
sea. Psalm 106:7
God
kept on "saving" Israel
when they were lost and:
Then
believed
they his words; they sang his praise. Psalm 106:12
...........
They soon
forgat his works; they waited not
for his counsel: Psalm
106:13
........... But lusted
exceedingly in the wilderness, and tempted
God in the desert. Psalm 106:14
...........
........... And
he
gave them their
request; but sent leanness into their soul. Psalm 106:15
Since
their singing was
pagan, God abandoned them to paganism. Stephen warned:
Then
God turned,
and gave them up to worship the host of heaven; as it
is written in
the book of the prophets, O ye house of Israel, have
ye offered to me
slain beasts and sacrifices by the space of forty
years in the
wilderness? Ac.7:42
If
you want to rise above
the sermonic
apology
for Israel
condemned by Amos you must understand that the musical
worship was
the result of firing
God and demanding a king
like the nations so
that they could worship
like the nations. God
promised that the kings would destroy Israel like the
nations.
They did and He did.
The
event explains
itself:
And
when Joshua heard the noise of the people as they
shouted, he said
unto Moses, There is a noise
of war
in the camp. Exod
32:17
And
he said, It is
not the voice of them that shout
for mastery, neither is
it the voice of them that cry for being
overcome; but the noise
of them that sing do I
hear. Exod 32:18
And
it came to pass, as
soon as
he came nigh unto the camp, that he saw the calf, and the dancing: and Moses anger waxed
hot, and he cast
the tables
out of his hands, and brake them beneath the mount.
Exod 32:19
Rising
up to play means
musical idolatry.
I
suppose that if you are to
the point of hearing God's voice audibly you are ready to
see Him literally as He is
lifted up. But
this is what you will say if you really do
"break through" and experience God.
God has been lifted up on the cross and the only
"missison" the
evangelist has is to "go preach" what has alread occurred.
And
some
believed the things which were spoken, and some believed
not. Acts
28:24
And when they agreed not among themselves, they departed,
after that
Paul had spoken one word,
Well
spake the Holy Ghost by
Esaias the prophet unto our fathers, Acts 28:25
Saying, Go unto this people, and say,
Hearing
ye shall hear, and shall
not understand;
and
seeing ye shall see, and not
perceive: Acts 28:26
For the heart of this people is waxed gross,
and their ears are dull of hearing,
and their eyes have they closed;
lest they
should see with their
eyes,
and hear with their ears,
and understand with their heart,
and
should be converted,
and I should heal them. Acts 28:27
Be it known therefore unto you, that the salvation of God is
sent unto the
Gentiles,
and that they will hear
it.
Acts 28:28
It is
a dangerous commission to
believe that we are all going to be God-ordained prophets
and see the
visions Isaiah saw. Now, Isaiah was a prophet commissioned
by God.
Unless we claim to be a prophet then we will never see God
as Isaiah
saw God. Stephen warned about the idolatry at Mount Sinai
and
explained the TRUE meaning of the temple and its worship
and he saw
the Lord sitting on a throne but these people ALWAYS die
for their
preaching:
IN
the year that
king Uzziah died
I
saw also the Lord sitting upon a
throne,
high and lifted
up, and his train filled the temple. Isaiah 6:1
Above
it stood the seraphims: each one had six
wings; with twain he
covered his
face, and with twain he covered his feet, and with
twain he did fly.
Isaiah 6: 2
And
one cried unto another,
and
said, Holy, holy, holy, is the Lord of hosts: the whole earth is full of his glory.
Isaiah 6: 3
And
the posts of the
door moved at the
voice of him that cried, and the house was filled with
smoke.
Isaiah 6: 4
Maybe
I am missing something
but I have never seen God on the throne nor seraphims with
wings nor
been overcome by smoke. Therefore, unless you have
experienced this
same thing you are not subject to the high restriction
placed on
"seeing God."
Oh,
for the humility of an
Isaiah who responded:
Then
said I, Woe is
me for I am undone;
because I am a man of unclean
lips,
and I dwell in the
midst of a people
of
unclean lips: for mine
eyes have seen
the King,
the Lord of hosts.
Isaiah 6:5
So,
if we have to follow Dr.
Shelly and see God our first response will be to sit
down and shut
up: we will not display our talent.
If
this happened in fact at
this church: sermons will stop, feminine and effeminate
musical
worship teams will fall on their face and everyone will
understand
that no
man's lips is
capable of replacing the lips and Word of God.
Therefore,
we are
pretty sure that declaring the entire Bible "sifted" and
then written
based on the writer's personal agendas proves that we
have not seen
God.
And
here is something else you
will have as a charismatic
experience
which
apparently is not part of the commission of
one selected to be a charismatic evangelist by the
"sovereign grace"
of God:
Also
I heard the
voice of the Lord, saying, Whom
shall I send, and who
will go for us? Then said I, Here am I; send
me.
Isaiah 6:8
Don't
we sing joyfully and
musically "Lord send me" and just lie and lie and lie.
Here is the
Great Commission for those who have been giving charge by
God and if
they do not GO then they violate a direct command and
therefore
cannot love God.
But
the message being sent by
too many sermons is accurately prophesied by this "proof
text" for
having seen God on His throne:
And
he
said, Go, and tell this people, Hear ye indeed, but understand not;
and see ye indeed, but perceive
not.
Isaiah 6:9
........... Make
the heart of this people fat, and make their ears heavy,
and shut their eyes;
...........
........... lest they see with their eyes, and hear
with their ears,
...........
........... and
understand
with
their
heart, and convert, and be healed. Isaiah 6:10
Jesus
was hiding the Word
from the clergy when He spoke in parables in Matthew
13.
Therefore, to
reject Christ's words being read by Him and by the early
evangelists
is a fatal error because this insists that WE ARE BLIND
AND
DEAF:
Then
said I, Lord,
how long? And he answered, Until the cities be wasted
without
inhabitant, and the houses without man, and the land be utterly desolate, Isaiah 6:11
And
the Lord have
removed men far away, and there be a great forsaking in the midst of the
land. Isaiah 6:12
But
yet in it shall
be a tenth,
and
it shall
return, and shall be
eaten: as a teil tree, and as an oak, whose
substance is in them,
when they cast their leaves: so the holy seed
shall be the substance thereof. Isaiah 6:13
What
followed was the
prophecy of Messiah:
Therefore
the Lord
himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son,
and shall call his name
Immanuel. Isaiah 7:14
If
you even pretend to see God on His
throne this is the message He has
for you.
Like
most creedal or Mission
Statements, the proof-text may be a supernatural sign that God has closed
ears and eyes because I know of
nothing more powerful
than music to shut the
minds
and eyes of the spirit
of mankind.
Those
who use music
as part of the magic or sorcery trying to get a message
from God or
by trying to speak to Him (1 Cor 14:2) know full well
that they
cannot survive as soothsayer under disguise as a priest
without
keeping the people lulled to sleep.
In a
similar passage in Isaiah chapter
29,
these people with
be the magicians who believe that they are priests able to
bring you
into the presence of God speaks of the familiar spirits
which was an
old wine skin and has the same meaning as the "nebel" or
harp and the
hi-tek "sounding brass" of 1 Corinthians 13:
And
thou shalt be
brought down, and shalt speak out of the ground,
and thy speech shall be low out of the dust, and thy
voice shall be,
as of one that hath a familiar spirit (h178 = empty wineskin), out of the ground,
and thy speech
shall whisper
out of the dust. Isaiah 29:4
Moreover
the multitude of thy strangers
(committing adultery)
shall be like small dust,
and the multitude of the terrible (tyrants)
ones shall be as chaff
that passeth away: yea,
it shall be at an instant suddenly. Isaiah 29:5
For
the Lord hath poured out
upon you the spirit of
deep sleep, and hath closed your eyes: the prophets
and your rulers,
the seers
hath he covered. Isaiah 29:10
And
the vision of all is become unto
you as the words
of a book
that
is sealed, which men deliver to
one that is learned, saying, Read this, I
pray thee: and he saith, I
cannot; for it is sealed: Isaiah 29:11
J.H.Garrison:
"There is
God
and Jesus: all the rest is opinion."
Rubel
Shelly: "There are
seven facts about Jesus: all the rest is muddled
apostolic opinion."
Eyes are closed and we are forced to go to the
bookstore.
As
music intruded into the
civil worship of Israel only
after
the elders demanded
that Samuel "set a king over
us," modern music never intrudes until the church abandons
itself to
destruction and insists that you set a king over us.
Thereafter, the
magical, mystical claim to lead you into the presence of
God is
identified by Henry Banford Parkes as "the world's oldest
profession"
and his kingship will flounder if the music is allowed to
cease -
instrumental or A Cappella (meaning "after the Catholic
church:)
Wherefore
the Lord
said, Forasmuch as this people draw near
me with their mouth,
and with their lips do
honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and
their fear
toward me is taught by
the precept of men:
Isaiah 29:13
Therefore,
behold,
I will proceed to do a marvellous work among this
people, even a
marvellous work and a wonder: for the wisdom of their
wise men shall
perish, and the understanding of their prudent men
shall be hid.
Isaiah 29:14
Nagash (h5066) naw-gash'; a
prim. root; to be
or come (causat. bring) near (for any purpose);
euphem. to
lie with a
woman;
as an enemy, to
attack; relig. to worship; causat. to present; fig. to
adduce an
argument; by reversal,
to stand back: - (make to) approach (nigh), bring
(forth, hither,
near), (cause to) come (hither, near, nigh), give
place, go hard
(up), (be, draw,
go) near (nigh), offer,
overtake, present, put,
stand.
Matt 15:7 Ye hypocrites,
well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying,
Hypokrites (g5273) hoop-ok-ree-tace';
from
5271; an actor under an assumed character (stage-player),
i.e. (fig.)
a dissembler ("hypocrite"): - hypocrite.
Hupokrinô reply,
make answer, of an oracle, 2. expound, interpret,
explain
[Peter outlawed this as private interpretation.] 2. deliver a speech,
declaim, of orators and rhetoricians, represent dramatically,
Similar Words:
Erôtikôn dramatôn 3. of an orator, use histrionic arts, exaggerate, ape, mimic, Mania or religious frenzy.
Rhêtor-ikos ,
ê, on, oratorical, hê rhêtorikê (sc. technê). These
are the craftsmen lumped
with
the singers, musicians and "grinder" doing merchandise
in the house
of prayer. Rev. 18:22
SIMILAR
LATIN: canto I.
Neutr., to produce
melodious sounds (by the voice
or an
instrument), to sound, sing,
play
(class. in prose
and poetry;
to sing and play while the actor
accompanies the song
with gestures or dancing, C.
Transf., of instruments, to sound,
resound: 2. Of
the singing pronunciation of an orator, to
declaim in a singing tone, to sing, preach to deaf ears.
occasion for singing, i. e. for imagination, fiction, Of
an actor:
- Also, thou son of
man, the children of thy people
-
still
are
talking
against
thee by the
walls and in the
doors of the houses,
-
- and
hear what is the word that cometh forth from
the Lord. Ezek 33:30
And
they come
unto thee as
the people
cometh, -
- and
they hear thy words,
- but
they will not do them:
- for
with their mouth
they shew much
love, (erotic
praise
songs)
but
their heart goeth after their covetousness.
Ezek
33:31
Here is God's opinion of NOTHING: just nothing at
all:
-
And,
lo,
thou art
unto them [nothing
more
than]
- as
a very
lovely
song [from
ORGAN: Jubal used
without authority]
- of
one
that hath a pleasant
voice,
and can
play
well on an
instrument: -
- for
they hear thy words,
-
but
they do them not.
Ezek 33:32
- And when this
cometh to pass,
(lo, it will come,)
-
then
shall they know
that a prophet hath
been among
them. Ezek 33:33
Rubel
Shelly: When we experience the Lord
in
Spirit and truth, all else becomes clearer immediately.
That
is why
worship is such an important part of
our life at
Woodmont Hills. Worship is, in fact, not
simply one aspect of our
ministry but is at the
heart
of everything we
are about as a church.
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